BEST SUPERSHOES FOR REGULAR RUNNERS? - FUELCELL SC TRAINER 3 - CIELO X1 - SUPERBLAST 2 - EDDBUD
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2024
- BEST SUPERSHOES FOR REGULAR RUNNERS? - FUELCELL SC TRAINER 3 - CIELO X1 - SUPERBLAST 2 - EDDBUD
Today i list my top SUPERSHOE or SUPER TRAINER options aside of the top tier race shoes. I examine a range of models all with similar maximal stacks, carbon plates, improved durability and with both training and racing potential.
Many runners find the top level race shoes too unstable and lacking in durability. Here are my top selections which can be used within your training and racing. It feels like there are two categories now, race super shoes and these super trainers.
Featured in the video are the following shoes.
HOKA CIELO X1
NEW BALANCE FUELCELL SC TRAINER V3
ASICS SUPERBLAST 2
PUMA DEVIATE NITRO 2
The puma and asics models were sent to me for review, the new balance and hoka shoes were purchased with my own cash.
Let me know your comments on my choices!
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@@torontocitizen6802 me as well!
Bravo! Love this. It resonates with my experience as well!🏃🏻♀️
I mainly run for mental health and fitness. It’s also damn fun listening to music out there whilst running too
Awesome Toronto citizen! I'm a new runner too, keep rocking 😎
This is exactly what I have been after. Been thinking of the Puma and now have made my decision easier
I was speaking to a fellow running shoe enthusiast last night who also enjoys tuning in to the channel. He's almost got as much bounce as Del Trotter... This time never year! (One million subscribers)
Only hurts when I laugh. 🤣
I'm in love with SB2, feels like an extension of my feet, price is nuts although but I guess everything is freaking expensive rn
" slightly more hollow denser sort of squash. It's kind of there but not there."
I've got 60 miles and my SB2 and that's the BEST description I've heard 😂. I do agree it's protective and effective for those long run cruises.
Glad it made sense! It’s the only way to describe it!
It’s the Hoka Cielo X 1 for me. So fun to run in and feet never get sore no matter the distance
Glad it’s working well for you
When I received the Superblast 2, I was expecting it to be more of the same as the SB1, broken-in SB1 as some of the reviews say. But I never expected to be wowed in an instant, unlike the SB1 which took a while before it became the phenomenal shoe everybody was all too hyped about. So, while some say the updates are minimal, the Superblast 2 blew me away and all my reservations the moment I slipped them on. So, cheers! And doing my part to fight the algo!
Glad it’s hitting the spot!
Was it that much different? I also wasn't a fan of SB1.
Hi. The Asics superblast 2 all day. Like to EDDBUD. A nice weekend for everyone.
Yes it’s quite the cushion for the price
Dankeschön for your running and music input, always a delight 😀
Glad you enjoy it!
I'm happy with my Puma Nitro ForeverRun for most of my runs whether it's intervals, long run or uphill repeats. However, I'm planning to get either Puma deviate Elite 3 or Saucony endorphin pro 4 for my long runs and races
Great review as always
Thanks for tuning in
¡Gracias!
Thanks for the support
CX1 has been my go to for everything since April, every time I try another shoe, I just compare it to the CX1, I do everything in it. I put over 500 miles in the current ones and they seems just as good as they did after 100 miles. Hands down my fave. Thanks Ed for the review.
The primex of 2024
Great, just bought the Saucony Endorphin Speed
Absolutely loving the Superblast 2's for all my longer efforts right now. I really want to try out the Cielo X1, just waiting for the price to come down a bit 👍🏻
The company that will make good cushioning affordable will get more customers because people are beginning to appreciate this comfort. Adidas' Lightstrike on the Speed model is not a super shoe of course but incredible considering the 80-90 euro price tag!
The SB2 and CX1 for me this year. Still have the SCTv2 for LSDs and three pairs of the DN2 (one WTR version for the rainy season) that have plenty of miles still left in them - so I don't see the need for DN3. Held out on SB1 and glad I did and got the SB2. It's a jack-of-all-trades kind of shoe but what a JACK it is!
Still run in the TCs..got it after you reviewed them. amazing shoes! About 400km logged still has life to it!
Just found my pair. Look really good for the age!
Same.. I got another pair nearly new off vinted for £12 not long ago 😂 Absolutely love those shoes 🎉
@@garytaylor56 unbelievable deal mate! i deffo stock up a few pairs at that price!!
Props for reviving TC. I still have a brand new pair of TC which I somehow couldn't get around to testing few years ago. I will probably try it next year. 😅
I remember the FC TC. I have the FC RC Elite v1 in my closet somewhere. Loved that shoe.
That had an amazing outsole. Why they didn’t continue with that outsole is anyones guess.
@@EDDBUD Right?
@@EDDBUD They currently have the same outsole on their NB 5280v2 but why they don't have it on more of their shoes is probably a cost decision. They've figured out that the public are willing to pay more for less and this is why we have 'super' trainers selling for the price of race day super shoes.
This is exactly video that I need: want a better shoes than daily trainer, but not enough (in running capacity & budget as well) for a super shoes.
The Puma deviate nitro elite 2 is a good one also with slightly less stack
something would have to be pretty special to beat the Superblast for me. In fact, I like that the 2 is coming out so the 1 will have discounts! (maybe). I can't imagine a much better all-around training shoe than the 1, so I'll be picking up a couple more pair when they are discounted. Also, for a while now I've been questioning/bemoaning the inclusion of a "plate" in a training shoe. I suspect it's just a marketing gimmick. The Superblast is excellent, and no "plate". As am amateur Futurist, I suspect we'll see fewer "plated" and a transition to "just foam" max cushion shoes in the near future.
I've been wearing the Paris colorway of the SB2 and was able to order the magenta/pink colorway last night bc it's easily the best shoe I've ever worn. Mizuno Neo Vista, SB2, Alphafly 3 and Endorphin Pro 3's are my current rotation and i couldn't be happier.
They do improve with time too!
I was in Japan with work recently during the same time as the Superblast 2 launched, I traipsed around all the official Asics shops in search of them but no dice. Came home, ordered Puma Deviate Nitro 3 instead as all online Superblasts seemed sold out, then a couple of weeks ago got lucky and scored a pair. Both are amazing fun to run in
Bizarre that even in Japan they weren’t available.
@@EDDBUD weirdly it was Cotswold Outdoor that suddenly had stock of them a few weeks after launch, the only catch being you had to buy a pair of clearance shorts or a vest with the Superblasts for the order to process. So now I have a pair of very strange looking shorts in the wrong size too (that had been reduced from 60 to 20 earth credits)
Great video! Got the SC Trainer for long runs, but I’m in the US and they aren’t nearly as expensive. NB needs to fix that.
Superblast for the win.
You read my mind with this video Ed! I’ve been updating my shoe rotation after 4 years and looking for that durable long run/ super training shoe for the long miles, so my Nike tempo Next % can finally retire. I’ve tried on the NB trainer in-store and liked it but have been holding out for the Superblast 2 (if it were to ever come back in stock) as I love my Novablast 4. Think I will continue to wait for the ASICS and save the carbon for race days as it seems like the best for my needs from your comments. Really appreciate your honest opinions, love the channel, and keep up the good work! Cheers 🏃🏽♂️
Glad this one helped and was of interest
I really liked the SC trainer v1, but I'm really put off by the price differences: 180 bucks in the US vs 250 Euro is almost fraudulent. I would pay that money if I found it somewhat justifiable (e.g. Prime X1 Strung) but not as a regional discrimination! My Superblasts or the Neo Vista are more than adequate to fill that spot in my rotation. Besides, for 250 (or below) there are so many good (older) super shoes. I still use an Endorphin Pro 2 that I got for 140 earthcredits as a speedy trainer, and my carbon racers can fill the same spot after some race usage.
Cheers for this great comparison. Making me go towards the DNE3 more and more.
Glad I could help!
SC Trainer 3 for me. Love the cushion and like you said, I tried to pickup the pace and was able to match my 5k time. I am no elite athlete, in fact I just run for health and stress relief but needed that cushion in my life to continue running and my shins are thanking me for buying these. I am from US so the SB2 are more expensive than the SC Trainer.
They are growing on me after each run
Very imformative video Edd. 🏃💪👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
It’s probably the fuelcell elite v3 or endorphin pro 3!
For the Algo. Still loving the PXS1.
It shall never be beaten.
Great going! Have You heard about new carbon plated TYR shoes? Are they available in UK for the review? It's by this famous DR from Squat University...
Puma always wins for me cheers edd allways a great watch.
SC Trainer surprised me at how great it felt. Like the SC Elite but more accessible. Need to try the Puma.
Yeah the trainer 3 has impressed me
Another great review. I had the 1st superblast and found them really quite narrow in the toe box and picked up many blisters, found using injinji toe socks the only socks I could use to run in them. However, a great comfy, fast mileage shoe. I’ve now picked up a pair of Pumas (D nitro 3) and have been super impressed across a range of training (intervals and Hills), great energy return, can get down to some spicy rep paces but can then keep them on to recover in for a cool down and they feel great. Well happy with the price point of them
Found the v1 a bit long. The v2 is a better fit for me
I watched your initial review of the SB2 a few minutes ago, and although generally positive, you didn't seem all that excited. Looks like it's grown on you!
yes it’s become a great do it all model for me
Aphafly 3 for me Ed, the best one out there for mere mortals like us 😅
Managed to pick up a Brand new, boxed pair of Superblast 2 on vinted for £56.. I couldn't believe my luck!!
They gotta be fake surely? Nobody is stupid enough to sell them for that price 😂 Banging trainer though I love mine even if I did pay full price 😖
@@paulmulks Haha That’s what I was half expecting mate, a 400g brick,but when I weighed them they were 246g (size 7.5) which is about right as the sample size 8 is only slighty heavier, they can’t fake the weight, crazy! 😂
@@dannydavies2421 Fair play to ya mate, cracking shoe 👌🏻
Adios pro 3 🔥🔥💥💥
I recently bought some ASICS gel ziruss 8 which oddly only seem to be available at Decathlon but they seem really good with my limited experience.
Toujours une super analyse qui me parle, on sent le vécu. Vous n'allez pas dans des techniques de conception auxquelles on ne comprend rien car je me fiche de savoir en quelle matière est la semelle de la chaussure. Je veux savoir quel est le ressenti global de la chaussure et c'est ce que vous faites parfaitement
I appreciate your comments. Many thanks 👍🏼
Is that Jordan on your t shirt? I was fortunate to see him play in Chicago, shortly before he retired. His warmup was great fun to watch. He worked hard on his game.
It’s a cracking t-shirt. Just Mike firing shots
Great reviews. I'm really enjoying the superblast 2
It’s a great update
Puma is a real gem 👍🔥❤
Yes it’s a good performer
Thanks for this. I’ve not ventured into supertrainer territory yet, as I don’t know if I need a ‘gateway’ nylon plate shoe (endorphin speed / neo vista etc.) first. Good to know the pumas still offer great bang for the credits though
Glad you enjoyed the video
I highly recommend as a first carbon plated shoe the R-3000 from the spanish brand Joma. Cheap, not demanding, suitable for all kind of rythms from 4.45 to 3.35 and hits the sweet spot at 10k-21k at 4-4.35m/km
The flame 3 shoes from legit Chinese running brand 361 degrees look even better tbh. See 361sport
I returned the SB2. Expected more from it than being good at long slow runs. Much more cheaper options for that. For a daily trainer the Puma is no brainer.
It’s quite versatile and did need some break in. Sad it didn’t work for you
Thanks, Edd.
Very welcome as always!
@@EDDBUD 🤩
I have a pair of NB Fuelcell prism v1’s. They were pretty good and poppy when running, with a bit of support. Shame they only lasted for 2 versions.
I got the super blast 2 and I’m loving it
Interesting to see SB2 and Cx1 very similar specs except the heel width. Which one would you choose out of the two mentioned for the marathon.
Enjoying the new balance from a versatile perspective.
Cheers for this comparison Ed, but boy oh boy prices are going silly now, feels like manufacturers are taking the pee and making running as a hobby really expensive, even socks are silly money, just paid £60 for 4 pairs of hillys,
Wild prices. I find on socks the uyn runners five are top. Wash well too. Worth the outlay
I love the cielo x1 but the weird thing about the outsole is there’s tons of it except exactly where you land on the apex of the rocker which is exposed. After 150k in mine most of the outsole is untouched except for the exposed midsole which is being shredded. May just be my foot strike but it’s an odd one
I’ve the sc elite and just purchased the hoka cielo x1 , sc elite is nice but the hoka is 🤴 such a nice and bouncy ride. I’m 90kg and a world class plodder. I tried the sc trainer but it’s much more firm and much less bouncy. The Cielo upper is also much lighter , it’s looks much thicker than it is.
Hey Ed, is the Deviate Nitro 3 a very nice upgrade from the Velocity Nitro 3 ?
I love my Puma Velocity Nitro 3 so I guess I will like the snug fit and not too soft middlesole of the Deviate 3 ?!
The deviate is a good balance
Do you have a link for your shoe case? Also great video as always
Placed a link in the description. 👍🏼
Hoka. Superb quality.
Well I'm mid marathon training these days and just watching this I can almost hear my legs going like my nephew in a toy store..."can we get this? Or no, maybe this one! Can we? Can we??"
As an older chap there’s days when I need more cushion underfoot to get out there and do the daily miles. Sometimes this is just what i need.
I would really like to know what the actual production costs are on these shoes. Wouldn’t surprise me if they’re making 6-700% profit on each pair. Obviously the RND is there but would be interesting to know just on production costs, because honestly running shoe prices are just getting ridiculous now.
Maybe it’s a hoka thing as I found the skyward x restrictive and controlling with it forcing where it wants me to place it, I also find the X1 a little unstable if a lateral mi/heal striker with big gap in the middle of the heal just feels wobbly, want to love them but legs don’t feel great post run 😢
Yeah it wanted me to use the heel. Which felt a bit controlling.
SC trainer is better to me then the Superblast 2 totally agree if it was cheaper there, in the Uk I think that would be the one to choose but the price probably would still have to go with the Superblast. Just glad it only 180 in the US
The sb2 is getting better with time just like the v1
The comparison I have been looking for! If you had to run a marathon in one, which would it be? Thanks!
Of these, maybe the Superblast 2
Edd! I’m a big fan of your videos 👌🏼
In your opinion, what are the top 3 contenders for best ‘long run’ training shoe, non plated.
Non plated? Superblast. Maybe the nimbus or magmax from Puma
@@EDDBUD Good choice! I’d like the superblast for my next mara block for sure.
Just picked up some NB 1080 fresh foam for easy long / recovery runs. They’re comfy!
Ed, please recommend something for non-runners, people that walk big distances and like a high stack and good looks....the NB SC trainer looks very nice. Also I was thinking about the Adidas UB 5x and the new Nike Turbo plus
Invincible run for walking might be good
@@EDDBUDI have NK INV 1 and 3. NK INV 1-the sole came off and the rubber is coming apart. NK INV 3, the upper is made out of plastic.
Prime X Strung V1 💯
The legendary shoe!
Would you put the Endorphin Pro 4 on this list too? Thanks
It’s more stable than most. Perhaps a good shout
@EDDBUD thanks, agreed! How would you compare the Endorphin Pro 4 vs the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 please? If you don't mind
I'm new to running, been running for 2 months now. Tried and borrowed a lot of shoes from friends (majority are new balance, hoka, on cloud, nike, asics) before i buy one. Nothing else comes close to Superblast 2 personally. But could be different for each person. Just sayin to those who have bias on brands/unit..
It’s a quite superb shoe in terms of cushion offered and low weight.
I retired the FC TC after 600km. Gorgeous shoe. Still running reps in the NB RC Elite v2 with 550km in them, grip gone but midsole good for treadmill. Would the Asics and/or NB in this review be similar?
Nice 🎉
🥈
For me endorphin pro3.
What a shoe 🥇
Banger! 👌🏻
Endorphin pro4 is good too
I was sure that the DN3 had a 10mm drop, at least on the spec sheet 🤔
Nah I’ve measured the v2 and 3. They are the same and not near 10. Not sure how they got those measurements.
At 68, puma nitro 3 4:13 , nova blast 4 only
Hi Edd, have you ever tried Asics Tarther RP3? They are suited for sprinting... but that shoe is a gem! Not many people in the west have used it... but for someone with a lighter frame such as yourself, it is just so efficiently appropriate-- you got to try it once!
Haven’t had a chance to try that yet
Hi i am a heavy guy with wide feet. I think from this review NEW BALANCE FUELCELL SC TRAINER V3 seem to be the best option for me. Please advise if my understanding is correct.
Yeah it’s fairly wide. The Nb range is probably a good bet
Nb elite good bc really comfortable but not aggressive
What is the best super shoe for a runner with overpronation? Which one do you recommend? , thanks
You want something a little firmer. Maybe try the endorphin pro or perhaps the Boston 12
Well done.
I think the Hoka Cielo X1 should be supershoe for the masses. It is very versatile and gives you the supershoe feeling without having to be a sub 3 minute runner. Superblast is your loving wife you would never leave, while the Cielo is more like a hot lover.
These are the takes I like. 🤣👍🏼
I was surprised to see the NB SC Elite v4 feature on the top Japanese male athlete at the Paris Olympics, finishing 6th. It makes me want to pick it up next year when it is discounted. I would have bypassed it but also given your positive appraisal of the SC Trainer 3 I think it can be a very good shoe. The barrier is the price. If it is reduced at least 40% it becomes a consideration, otherwise it is a no go. Thanks for the comparisons Edd! 👍
Loads of last years models on discount right now
SC Trainer 3 vs Boston 12. What are the differences? Which one do you recommend? Thanks in advance
Massive price difference. The sc is softer but the Boston 12 a bit more engaging and responsive.
WAZZUUUP 🎉
For marathon, between SC and Puma, which one you will pick?
Personally. The Puma for its stability later in the run
@@EDDBUD thanks 💪🏼
Ed, you didn't seem so fond of the SB 2 in your initial review video. What changed? Was there a break in period?
I liked it but it’s the kinda shoe that needs some time
Still running in the TC with 350 miles on it. The instability gave me confidence to buy the Prime X Strung. However, for me the TC heel is unstable but the Prime X is unstable in the forefoot area. Both great shoes though, perhaps it’s the instability that makes them both so great?
The primex is perhaps one of the best i have tried on all fronts. Found it more stable than it appeared
Can you recommend shoes for daily wear?
Ran past 2 marathons in SC Trainer 2. Using a pair for long runs now. Would DN3 be a good long run/marathon option? I’m a 4hr+ marathoner, so I tend to shy away from “race day” shoes. Not sure they really are worth the 💰
Maybe the Superblast would be good for you 👍🏼
I'm a noob runner but i have a Puma Fast R 2 😂😂😂
would I be crazy to preorder the superblast .., and send back the one that doesn’t fit ? Not in regards to getting a shoe that fits, but more so, that ..”is the shoe that good” ??
all responses are welcome
Always keep the shoe that fits 👊👍🏼
Happy algorithm !!!
Yay! Thank you!
Is it christmas yet? I can see the lights! 🤣
If the Cielo x1 is on the video the crimbo lights are essential.
Still torn between vaporfly 3 and asics magic speed 4 for my speed sessions, any suggestions?
(I’m currently rocking pegasus 38 & novablast 3 for my dailies)
Maybe try picking up the discounted precious Metaspeed Sky. The plus is a superb shoe and now a bit cheaper
They might last longer than pair of Alphafly but they don't work for me in a different sense. I can't train in them, I can't race in them. They just don't work. If we call the Boston 12 a supershoe that is probably the only training shoe that works for me. For the race I either use my Takumi sen or OG Deviate Nitro Elite which is getting close to 500k.
Find the af3 was pretty durable with some care and attention. Works for me as a distance trainer
The SC Trainer 3 felt too soft and unstable as a larger runner (6’6”, 220lbs). Leaning more towards the SB2
Certainly more consistency in the Superblast
Hi what marathon shoe would you recommend for someone that overpronates? My first marathon this year I ran in kayano 30 but I now want something a little faster
Maybe look at the Superblast 2 or something plateless.
Fuelcell TC was an unbelievably good shoe. Oh how i miss it 😔
Yes they should bring that back! Well they kinda have in the sc trainer
@@EDDBUD yeah. I just don't want to remortgage my house to buy it!
How’d you get the SC trainer for a discount?
Sportsshoes always have a code
The SC Trainer v3 in the US is $180 (139 GBP). I don't know why it's so expensive in the UK. I've got 30 miles in my pair and like them so far quite well.
It bonkers isn’t it!
Anyone recommend some slow easy pace shoes that will keep my legs fresh. I do Muay Thai so my legs cop a lot of damage, so need something to do like slower paces around 5:30-6 minute ks. I have the nimbus 25s they just feel like a boat at times
Novablast 4, still ASICS but more firm and response than the nimbus. I love the nimbus for easy runs and days my legs are tired, in that same vein the novablast does the same job but better all around.
Would the Topo Specter 2 fit in this category?
Not tried anything from them as of yet