Ayala isn’t going 133, he will NOT AA there. He is not physically big enough to contend with them, he has the length, he has the speed, and obviously he has the ability but doesn’t have the mass. He’d have to get through Crookham, Nasir, Frost, Nagao, Orine, etc… a whole new roster of guys who are probably a tad bit better physically. Some just completely out class him, like Nasir or Crookham. The best line up for Iowa to get a medal at NCAAs, ASSUMING everyone can make weight, would look like: 125: Drake Ayala 133: don’t have a clue in the world 141: Ryder Block 149: Kyle Parco 157: Patrick Kennedy 165: Mikey Caliendo 174: Gabe Arnold 184: Brands 197: Glazier HWT: Keuter (Angelo redshirts. But since I do believe he’s a breakout freshman, if he doesn’t want to redshirt he has to take out Gabe Arnold or Brands for the spot) Penn St has a similar problem though. With a Jam at 157-184. Only difference is Penn St has a lot more redshirts they can use than Iowa does. With Zack Ryder, Joe Sealey, Levi Haines, and Tyler Kasak. But then the Jam gets worse because PJ Duke comes in the following year. Wonder how Cael is going to solve that. assuming Josh Barr and Alex Facundo stay it’ll be a serious problem. Some should transfer to Okie St with DT 😶.
Two ways to look at it, guys that I know that grew up wrestling some of the guys in the Iowa room have said for a couple years that Ayala struggles to make 125 so he could finally be outgrown of that weight. On the other hand, that could just be a rumor that is starting to travel nationwide rather than just around the Iowa City area. We won’t know til we know.
That's a little extreme imo. He wont be that undersized and he would still AA at 133. Do i think he makes finals at 133? No way... he doesn't touch Crookham or Nasir like you said, but he would be okay at 133.
@@dinocollins720 I don’t think “okay” is what they’re looking for though. They want a team title and putting Ayala at 133 isn’t going to get you that. If he had plans on going 133 he should’ve been focusing on that while under Spencer. No one that Ayala couldn’t beat out has occupied 133 since Austin Desanto. I don’t think Ayala if he makes the switch to 133 takes top 4. I might’ve been a tad bit extreme saying he wouldn’t place. However, even that is a possibility. I don’t think Ayala has a Vito situation going on, where he’ll get exponentially better for not needing to cut as much. But he barely beat a true freshman in Braeden Davis, actually in fact he had to many close matches that could’ve gone either way. Hence why i said he wouldn’t place at 133. Because quite frankly, high likely hood he actually wouldn’t do it. Also, why bump if you’re the #2 at a weight class? You’d essentially be going into new water and territory. I could understand bumping AFTER this season to make way for Leo DeLuca. But now? That doesn’t add up, unless he’s seriously struggling to make 125 and if that was the case why fight for Spencer’s spot? You’re telling me he couldn’t beat at Brody Teske for the starting spot? That would’ve given him time to develop, knowing Spencer was coming back to 125… I just see a serious lack of game planning for this.
@@jomama969 Ayala is what 5’6. My problem with this is if he was going to move up he should’ve just made the move to 133 from the start. Wouldn’t have to had compete with Spencer and lose the starting spot. He was def good enough to beat out Teske in my eyes. But he’s beaten Mat Ramos who has beaten Spencer. If I’m Drake Ayala I stay at 125 since that’s my best chance at an Individual title and better team points. But Luke Lilledahls coming in so I don’t see anyone really winning it besides him.
@@xzjayz7925I’m with you, I don’t think he’ll be at 133. I’ve sat across the aisle from Spencer at a restaurant and was in the same checkout line at the mall as Ayala once. Spencer seems to be much bigger than him so I honestly don’t see where Ayala is putting that extra 8 pounds that people are claiming. Time will tell though.
No idea where you guys are getting Angelo go 157, I don’t think he’s been anywhere near that weight especially since he has been practicing with Jacob Warner
@@ogot344def wouldn’t say certainly won’t happen again when he’s consistently proved to be better then him throughout their high school careers. But Rocco didn’t have anyone fighting for his spot at Ohio state. Gabe Arnold for whatever reason didn’t pull his redshirt and go for it. He talked about going to the finals and the guy he was able to beat went instead. And Rocco Welsh is a dog himself, but him vs Gabe Arnold is always going to be a nail biter. Neither of them are offensive wrestlers.
Guys who transfer to Iowa lately have a reputation for improving their first year being there and regressing after. Desanto became a wrecking ball when he transferred to Iowa but never could beat Fix and RBY eventually figured him out. Eierman went from very solid to the national title favorite his first year at Iowa then wrestled much worse throughout his last year at Iowa. Woods, same story as Eierman. Franek looked really good to start his year at Iowa then he fizzled out towards the end. Caliendo looked really good. We shall see how this year goes.
This is probably due to uptake in intensity and volume compared to the school that they transfer from. That can actually good in the short term, but the human body can only do high volume and high intensity at the same time for a short period. That’s why body builders and athletes should change it up after a while. Iowa however does not, and that’s why guys get injured often, even though they may see great short term gains. Some guy have the genetics to maintain it for along time and not regress. For example Drake Ayala, Pat Kennedy and Zach Glazier. They have all been Iowa guys for a while and god willing they will stay healthy like they have for these few years.
@@TheBlackKnightX7Agreed, too much of anything is bad for you eventually. Spencer and Desanto seem to be the type of guys that can go non-stop but look at Kemerer for example; he was debating on even coming back for his Covid year then he left Iowa pretty quick when his career was done. Same with Murin. But you can’t tell the old timers that because they’ll call you soft.
Watch out for Ryder Block. “Huge shoutout to Pat Lugo, Brandon Sorensen, Jaydin Eierman, Austin DeSanto, Ryder Block, Kaleb Young, Alex Marinelli, and Drake Ayala for continuing to train alongside Spencer well after their competitive seasons have concluded.”
They will get 2nd next year. Remember Patrick Kennedy beat Edmon Ruth last year and just won the U23 tournament. Kueter will get 4th and Arnold will get 5th.
Edmond Ruth isn’t a top 2 guy so that’s not really the biggest feat. But Kennedy has always under performed at nationals, maybe because of nerves. He’s always been a AA lvl guy.
Ryder Block is going 141
Ayala isn’t going 133, he will NOT AA there. He is not physically big enough to contend with them, he has the length, he has the speed, and obviously he has the ability but doesn’t have the mass. He’d have to get through Crookham, Nasir, Frost, Nagao, Orine, etc… a whole new roster of guys who are probably a tad bit better physically. Some just completely out class him, like Nasir or Crookham.
The best line up for Iowa to get a medal at NCAAs, ASSUMING everyone can make weight, would look like:
125: Drake Ayala
133: don’t have a clue in the world
141: Ryder Block
149: Kyle Parco
157: Patrick Kennedy
165: Mikey Caliendo
174: Gabe Arnold
184: Brands
197: Glazier
HWT: Keuter
(Angelo redshirts. But since I do believe he’s a breakout freshman, if he doesn’t want to redshirt he has to take out Gabe Arnold or Brands for the spot)
Penn St has a similar problem though. With a Jam at 157-184. Only difference is Penn St has a lot more redshirts they can use than Iowa does. With Zack Ryder, Joe Sealey, Levi Haines, and Tyler Kasak. But then the Jam gets worse because PJ Duke comes in the following year. Wonder how Cael is going to solve that. assuming Josh Barr and Alex Facundo stay it’ll be a serious problem. Some should transfer to Okie St with DT 😶.
Two ways to look at it, guys that I know that grew up wrestling some of the guys in the Iowa room have said for a couple years that Ayala struggles to make 125 so he could finally be outgrown of that weight. On the other hand, that could just be a rumor that is starting to travel nationwide rather than just around the Iowa City area. We won’t know til we know.
That's a little extreme imo. He wont be that undersized and he would still AA at 133. Do i think he makes finals at 133? No way... he doesn't touch Crookham or Nasir like you said, but he would be okay at 133.
@@dinocollins720 I don’t think “okay” is what they’re looking for though. They want a team title and putting Ayala at 133 isn’t going to get you that. If he had plans on going 133 he should’ve been focusing on that while under Spencer. No one that Ayala couldn’t beat out has occupied 133 since Austin Desanto.
I don’t think Ayala if he makes the switch to 133 takes top 4. I might’ve been a tad bit extreme saying he wouldn’t place. However, even that is a possibility. I don’t think Ayala has a Vito situation going on, where he’ll get exponentially better for not needing to cut as much. But he barely beat a true freshman in Braeden Davis, actually in fact he had to many close matches that could’ve gone either way. Hence why i said he wouldn’t place at 133. Because quite frankly, high likely hood he actually wouldn’t do it.
Also, why bump if you’re the #2 at a weight class? You’d essentially be going into new water and territory. I could understand bumping AFTER this season to make way for Leo DeLuca. But now? That doesn’t add up, unless he’s seriously struggling to make 125 and if that was the case why fight for Spencer’s spot? You’re telling me he couldn’t beat at Brody Teske for the starting spot? That would’ve given him time to develop, knowing Spencer was coming back to 125… I just see a serious lack of game planning for this.
@@jomama969 Ayala is what 5’6. My problem with this is if he was going to move up he should’ve just made the move to 133 from the start. Wouldn’t have to had compete with Spencer and lose the starting spot. He was def good enough to beat out Teske in my eyes. But he’s beaten Mat Ramos who has beaten Spencer. If I’m Drake Ayala I stay at 125 since that’s my best chance at an Individual title and better team points. But Luke Lilledahls coming in so I don’t see anyone really winning it besides him.
@@xzjayz7925I’m with you, I don’t think he’ll be at 133. I’ve sat across the aisle from Spencer at a restaurant and was in the same checkout line at the mall as Ayala once. Spencer seems to be much bigger than him so I honestly don’t see where Ayala is putting that extra 8 pounds that people are claiming. Time will tell though.
No way Ayala is in the final at 133.
Kennedy is the real question mark for a spot
Ryder Block could be in the mix at 141.
Yes and Block could AA
Isn’t he like 5’11 he’s not making 141 healthy.
Solid lineup.
No idea where you guys are getting Angelo go 157, I don’t think he’s been anywhere near that weight especially since he has been practicing with Jacob Warner
It was his high school weight 157-170 was originally his projected weight in college. But BOY HAS HE GROWN. He’ll most likely be 174-184.
Arnold has beat Rocco twice. Both in high school
Rocco had a very fortunate post season. Certainly won’t happen again
@@ogot344def wouldn’t say certainly won’t happen again when he’s consistently proved to be better then him throughout their high school careers. But Rocco didn’t have anyone fighting for his spot at Ohio state. Gabe Arnold for whatever reason didn’t pull his redshirt and go for it. He talked about going to the finals and the guy he was able to beat went instead. And Rocco Welsh is a dog himself, but him vs Gabe Arnold is always going to be a nail biter. Neither of them are offensive wrestlers.
Team Rocco!
Guys who transfer to Iowa lately have a reputation for improving their first year being there and regressing after.
Desanto became a wrecking ball when he transferred to Iowa but never could beat Fix and RBY eventually figured him out.
Eierman went from very solid to the national title favorite his first year at Iowa then wrestled much worse throughout his last year at Iowa.
Woods, same story as Eierman.
Franek looked really good to start his year at Iowa then he fizzled out towards the end.
Caliendo looked really good. We shall see how this year goes.
This is probably due to uptake in intensity and volume compared to the school that they transfer from. That can actually good in the short term, but the human body can only do high volume and high intensity at the same time for a short period. That’s why body builders and athletes should change it up after a while. Iowa however does not, and that’s why guys get injured often, even though they may see great short term gains. Some guy have the genetics to maintain it for along time and not regress. For example Drake Ayala, Pat Kennedy and Zach Glazier. They have all been Iowa guys for a while and god willing they will stay healthy like they have for these few years.
@@TheBlackKnightX7Agreed, too much of anything is bad for you eventually. Spencer and Desanto seem to be the type of guys that can go non-stop but look at Kemerer for example; he was debating on even coming back for his Covid year then he left Iowa pretty quick when his career was done. Same with Murin. But you can’t tell the old timers that because they’ll call you soft.
Watch out for Ryder Block. “Huge shoutout to Pat Lugo, Brandon Sorensen, Jaydin Eierman, Austin DeSanto, Ryder Block, Kaleb Young, Alex Marinelli, and Drake Ayala for continuing to train alongside Spencer well after their competitive seasons have concluded.”
Austin DeSanto will always be my ride or die.
what about the incoming recruiting class 138, 175 and others
I like parco at 149 for the hawks super solid pick up
I do too. See him wrestle vs Pitt last year... Strong.. tough wrestler.
Vionovich brother coming in that probably why he didn't transfer
You guys are not thinking Angelo can cut to 157
I mean he was 157-170 in high school. But apparently he's gotten bigger and is 174-184 now.
They will get 2nd next year. Remember Patrick Kennedy beat Edmon Ruth last year and just won the U23 tournament. Kueter will get 4th and Arnold will get 5th.
Edmond Ruth isn’t a top 2 guy so that’s not really the biggest feat. But Kennedy has always under performed at nationals, maybe because of nerves. He’s always been a AA lvl guy.
You can never count Iowa out
@@xzjayz7925Ruth was the Big 10 Champion last year
@@robertbryant173 where will Kennedy fit in the lineup?
@@CACTUS-Wrestling that’s a great question. I don’t think anyone knows right now. I really hope Kennedy can get down to 157, but that would be tough…
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