An In-Depth Look At Cait Sith

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  • @wraithgear4216
    @wraithgear4216 5 лет назад +737

    That dance shuffle he does after Arith dies is the same shuffle he used when he attempts to generate a fortune for cloud when he first meets him in the golden saucer. and my thought was he was attempting to do it again. But obviously failing as Arith has no future. and sadly shuffles away.
    i don't think it was a disrespectful dance, but man they could have probably made that a lot clearer

    • @qwerty-uy1kh
      @qwerty-uy1kh 5 лет назад +87

      Yeah, the character's responding with its defining (albeit bizzare) trait. I see it being unable to tell Aeris's fortune as adding to the tragedy. Cait Sith is kinda poorly rendered as comic relief (when compared to the other vivid characters) and something's lost in translation, but it has a weirdly compelling arc

    • @arctorusmedia
      @arctorusmedia 4 года назад +103

      @@qwerty-uy1kh It's obvious he was trying to cheer Cloud up, realized it was poor timing and left.

    • @littlekitsune1
      @littlekitsune1 4 года назад +41

      Agreed, I interpreted it a fortune attempt, since Aerith asked before, and one of his first ones was foreshadowing her death. Trying to do the thing he's supposed to be good for one last time, but it's ultimately pointless and he can't do anything but silently leave the scene in the end.
      Though yeah, I'm not going to deny that it's not conveyed very well with the sprite and the way his movements are always generally cartoonish.

    • @buttymcbuttsworth
      @buttymcbuttsworth 4 года назад +26

      Fortune telling makes sense, from a storyteller's perspective, maybe it was a reminder of the fortune Cait Sith gave earlier, the 'you will find sephiroth but lose something very dear' thing.

    • @kyokonull
      @kyokonull 4 года назад +1

      @TKN V eh, its not as fun just saying that

  • @jimsface
    @jimsface 5 лет назад +345

    The more you learn about Cait Sith, the less you understand about him - and I think that’s the point. He’s easily the most bizarre member of the party and sort of embodies the more whimsical, but still enigmatic, feel of parts of FF7.

  • @SaitohYatate
    @SaitohYatate 5 лет назад +537

    As a kid I always laughed thinking that everytime Cait Sith got hurt in battle, Reeve would have a brain fart and yell like Professor X in the 90's X-men show. All while sitting in a Shinra board meeting.

    • @res20stupid
      @res20stupid 4 года назад +86

      Wait a minute... controlling a separate being from a hidden location and introduced in the same chapter as a guy named Dio...
      Reeve's a Stand User!

    • @4zt3c
      @4zt3c 4 года назад +14

      res20stupid Yare Yare Daze

    • @EdgySwordfish
      @EdgySwordfish 2 года назад +36

      This is head canon to me now lol
      Reeve: agh!
      Scarlet: you alright there?
      Reeve: yeah, my cat just got pounded by a giant snake....
      Scarlet: ......what?!
      Rufus: i... hate all of you.

    • @Ackbar223
      @Ackbar223 2 года назад +22

      In that situation Reeve still wouldn't seem like the craziest person in the room.

    • @SableJem
      @SableJem 2 года назад +15

      Reeve Would still be the Sanest Person in the room though. And I am Okay with that,and I am Not Okay with that.

  • @iceee420
    @iceee420 5 лет назад +235

    I'm more confused than I was before watching this

  • @coldDrive
    @coldDrive 5 лет назад +373

    There's a scene in Dirge when Reeve is actually talking "to" Cait Sith, they seem to have different outlooks on things, and there's a few scenes on Cid's ship where they look at each other for confirmation after one says something. So yeah, pretty sure the Caits are sentient, that or Reeve is schizophrenic and Cait is a vessel for a completely separate part of his mind.

    • @shadkuroi
      @shadkuroi 4 года назад +55

      I like the first, but you make the second option sound interesting.

    • @MaximilianonMars
      @MaximilianonMars 4 года назад +50

      My guess is the cats are partially programmed robots that Reeve can control, they pick up the slack when he can't have direct control so the doll doesn't become lifeless. The routines that the crushed Cait Sith learnt were lost with his body, which is why there was only one "him".

    • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668
      @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668 4 года назад +22

      @@MaximilianonMars Either that or Reeve is using him as a proxy angel/devil to reason with. Like having an argument with himself. Or he's just really lonely and wants to have a friend he can relate to, so he talks to a stuffed animal.

    • @GoldieTamamo
      @GoldieTamamo 4 года назад +13

      Cait Sith is Reeve's Eudaemon. They have a Persona-esque relationship with one another.
      It's a bit like the relationship between Dirk Strider and his AI Duplicate in Homestuck. Both up and sprout their own personality over time.

    • @joannaniedziaek8158
      @joannaniedziaek8158 4 года назад +5

      Wow, never thought about split personality disorder or schizophrenia. Now that's very interesting

  • @kshan8201
    @kshan8201 4 года назад +160

    the funny joke dance during the death scene is Cait’s animation when he does fortune telling. You even showed examples of him doing the dance with fortune related text box. Imho its actually quite sad, Cait wanted to do a fortune for Aerith to see she is still with the party in the future. If he sees something, he could inform everyone that she can be revived with some way or another (eg phoenix downs, Life spells etc). Cait suddenly stops and looks sheepish as he walks away, because he couldnt do the fortune, pretty much confirming the fact that Aeriths has truely gone.

    • @MeatBunFul
      @MeatBunFul 4 года назад +7

      This is it

    • @sonjaa.martin6269
      @sonjaa.martin6269 3 года назад +4

      this

    • @MariusBoss11458
      @MariusBoss11458 Год назад +2

      The best explanation

    • @Legnica148
      @Legnica148 Год назад +3

      EXACTLY! come one it's the same dance...... and he goes out with a "sad" look, even though the graphics didn't allow much

    • @zaqqaz
      @zaqqaz 6 месяцев назад +1

      This makes sense.

  • @rmh032
    @rmh032 5 лет назад +255

    I thought his behaviour at the death scene wasn't that badly done, tbh. He attempts to do the only thing he knows how - to cheer everyone up with silly dances and fortune telling, before quickly realising he Is well out of his depth and feels totally useless. So he gets overwhelmed and shuffles off.

    • @rfmerrill
      @rfmerrill 4 года назад +19

      Totally me

    • @mightyhunternz9234
      @mightyhunternz9234 4 года назад +22

      Hmmm I always thought that was what he does when he reads people's fortunes, maybe he was feeling bad for cloud because of the last fortune he told cloud n aerith at the temple of the ancients

    • @NightmareSnake
      @NightmareSnake 6 месяцев назад +1

      That's what I always thought too.

  • @petfriendamy
    @petfriendamy 5 лет назад +257

    The nonsensical information on what Cait Sith is and how he works gives me the feeling that even the developers weren't actually sure what Cait Sith is, lol.
    Nice work as always!

    • @chunkmcbeefnob717
      @chunkmcbeefnob717 5 лет назад +10

      Welcome to Final Fantasy VII, especially post-Sakaguchi lol.

  • @JJMcCullough
    @JJMcCullough 4 года назад +142

    That was a great video on a character I've long been fascinated by. One thing you didn't mention: the fact he has a zipper on his back often confuses people, but in Japan it's common for plushies to have zippers.

    • @CloudNFT
      @CloudNFT 3 года назад +6

      Never knew J.J was a fan of final fantasy! I love your videos.

    • @sourlessfix9109
      @sourlessfix9109 3 года назад

      @Logan Enoch Trying it out now. Looks good so far :)

    • @nukebloc
      @nukebloc 2 года назад

      omg its you wtf

  • @benwilliams3539
    @benwilliams3539 4 года назад +369

    the fact he was remote controlled by someone back at shinra always made me feel that the 'real' team member, the guy who's talking to us and making decisions for cait was some dude sitting in an office back at shinra HQ. I always wanted to meet the guy

    • @kellysixsmith4273
      @kellysixsmith4273 4 года назад +86

      Sooo... Reeve Tuesti, then?

    • @CC-xb6hp
      @CC-xb6hp 4 года назад +8

      @@kellysixsmith4273 yup

    • @mr.F.Castle
      @mr.F.Castle 4 года назад +23

      The remake made it make sense and you understand why Reeve are doing what he does.

    • @homesliceslices69
      @homesliceslices69 4 года назад +4

      @@mr.F.Castle except the keeping children hostage part.

    • @mr.F.Castle
      @mr.F.Castle 4 года назад +15

      @@homesliceslices69 Most have forgotten that part.

  • @Uri_Mercury
    @Uri_Mercury 5 лет назад +572

    And the death scene, I dont feel it was a joke. It seemed he was attempting to cheer cloud up by telling one last fortune, but realized it isnt worth it. The focus is the Cat. Notice Cait Sith seems discouraged. The moogles exit animation seems to just be the way it walks. As tone deaf as it was

    • @dragonballtalk8527
      @dragonballtalk8527 5 лет назад +1

      Not yo boy cait sith comin to git evryone ass

    • @wraith.ferron
      @wraith.ferron 5 лет назад +23

      That's how I viewed it

    • @AvatarContinuum
      @AvatarContinuum 5 лет назад +89

      I viewed it as him remembering his first fortune he gave both Cloud and Aerith (and subconciously doing the fortune telling animation) which slows and becomes distorted as he starts to feel responsible as he tries to comprehend what has just happened before just... shuffling away in shame and sadness... What you pursue will be yours, but you will lose something dear.

    • @Uri_Mercury
      @Uri_Mercury 5 лет назад +7

      @@AvatarContinuum OMG!!!!!! Yessss!!!

    • @prushimush
      @prushimush 5 лет назад +5

      Hey, Cloud. Heard you needed cheering up. Well, old Cait Sith will make you laugh! Related scene from Futurama: ruclips.net/video/wblL8mEoEI4/видео.html

  • @jakewilkerson2039
    @jakewilkerson2039 5 лет назад +273

    “So how does Reeve control a stuffed cat?” Because it’s Final Fantasy

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 4 года назад +9

      Shinra has powerful remote control technology.

    • @zwooop64
      @zwooop64 4 года назад +7

      This game also has a robot house

    • @snakekingblues3017
      @snakekingblues3017 4 года назад +12

      This is kind of funny
      I mean u can summer fucking monster
      Yet cat sith is confusing

    • @lowang2202
      @lowang2202 4 года назад

      We dont need a in depth look at this piece of shit wtf

    • @iam4026
      @iam4026 4 года назад +4

      Wait when Reeve controls Cait Sith, is he doing so from a remote or his consciousness is actually inside Sith?

  • @4-8Productions
    @4-8Productions  5 лет назад +190

    Special thank you to all of you for being so patient, I know this episode took longer than usual, but hopefully all of the extra work paid off. I have also been working on a very special FFVII project that will change the way we all enjoy the game, so stay tuned!

    • @TruMaverick
      @TruMaverick 5 лет назад +1

      Thank you Death

    • @O.M.JaYY3
      @O.M.JaYY3 5 лет назад

      Thank you very much Death!

    • @sneakyking
      @sneakyking 5 лет назад

      Love these in depth series.

    • @eliwhite2917
      @eliwhite2917 5 лет назад

      I just got and finished ff7 on switch and have been watching your in depth and guide videos keep it up your awesome

    • @NPC-00361
      @NPC-00361 5 лет назад +1

      4-8Productions in Britain if a black cat crosses your path it’s bad luck not good luck.

  • @frontierdustice
    @frontierdustice 2 года назад +13

    Cait Sith is my favourite character in this game. The first time I saw his face in the party menu, I was hooked. He’s the comic relief, which I respect immensely. The stupid dance during the death scene is both hilarious and sad to me. The Temple scene is my favourite in the game. The limit breaks… hoo boy.
    I defeated Safer Sephiroth using the slots exploits and it was my last resort. So yes, I’m incredibly biased towards this character and I will never stop talking about how underrated he is.

    • @Legnica148
      @Legnica148 Год назад +4

      He never left my team, ever, and the redemption team still affects me when I watch lol... I'm super biased as well, actually my only FF7 tattoo is him lol

    • @frontierdustice
      @frontierdustice Год назад

      @@Legnica148 very nice, glad to see another Cait Sith enthusiast

    • @UselessGoddess378
      @UselessGoddess378 Месяц назад +1

      Cait Sith is my son. I would kill for him. He didn't leave my party since I got him (and yeah Cloud and Cid had to pick up a lot of his slack, but when he came through he came through. Those full recoveries with Mog Dance... I can't count how many times that saved my sorry ass.)

  • @nono-ee5kp
    @nono-ee5kp 4 года назад +59

    There's something incredibly charming about Cait Sith. I've always enjoyed his touching monologue and redemption arc, followed by him showing up when Cloud is attacking Aeris all "hey guys i'm back! Cait Sith number two here!" It shouldn't work but it's probably one of the funniest moments in the game for me.

  • @therealbs2000
    @therealbs2000 4 года назад +37

    7:57 this is where the old proverb comes from: "never underestimate the potential hobbies of a single japanese salaryman"

  • @GiggaGMikeE
    @GiggaGMikeE 5 лет назад +134

    Cait Sith comes with the Manipulate Materia. Not hard to interpret that as the way he was controlling the robots. Maybe it works like a remote control.

    • @chunkmcbeefnob717
      @chunkmcbeefnob717 5 лет назад +19

      Frankly, your theory is as good as any. Headcanon is the only thing that keeps people thinking FFVII makes sense and isn't just a steaming turd full of inconsistencies that we cut slack for solely because of nostalgia.

    • @ang1217sr
      @ang1217sr 5 лет назад +10

      Maybe the Crown is the Manipulate Materia, just shaped in a different form. Or maybe it’s just the ball on the front spike of the Crown

    • @animeproblem1070
      @animeproblem1070 4 года назад +3

      Thamfur Dithpray technically it was a very flawed game story wise it’s pretty good

    • @vogonp4287
      @vogonp4287 4 года назад +14

      @@chunkmcbeefnob717 A lot of the inconsistencies seem to originate from the original english translation. There is a fan translation that irons out most (but not all) of them.

    • @littlekitsune1
      @littlekitsune1 4 года назад +4

      @@vogonp4287 This poor game really needs a re-translation. (In its base form. I don't mean the remake.) There are too many parts where I didn't know what the flying fuck was being said because they'd obviously translated incorrectly or just overly literally because they ignored context. And that's without the spelling and grammar errors.

  • @poisonmist13
    @poisonmist13 3 года назад +18

    12:04
    I feel like his reaction was actually extremely realistic. I’ve been so shocked by death that I spit out unfunny jokes. Sometimes people are so shocked that their first response is to lighten the mood by any means possible.
    And once reality sets in the cringe is MYTHICAL.

  • @VapidToast
    @VapidToast 5 лет назад +48

    I personally don't like Cait Sith but I think in the death scene he is trying to actually revive Aeries, and that breaks my heart.

  • @TheLifestream
    @TheLifestream 5 лет назад +38

    Thanks for the shout-out, and great video!

  • @mochaaura-discontinued4145
    @mochaaura-discontinued4145 5 лет назад +8

    I lost it when called Heidegger “GYA HAAAA HAAA" since he always make that laugh and even President Rufus make fun of his laugh

  • @Low_Standards_Gaming_YT
    @Low_Standards_Gaming_YT 5 лет назад +106

    Reeve creating Pee Wee's playhouse is part of my Canon for the series now

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega 5 лет назад +8

      Come on innnn!!!
      Tie up yo chocobo,
      Let the fun begin, so many places to go,
      Cait Sith is so excited, cuz all his friends invited
      To go whacky, at Reeve-Reeve playhouse!

    • @ColeFam
      @ColeFam 4 года назад

      Aaaaaye

  • @renehrebenar6171
    @renehrebenar6171 5 лет назад +52

    my entire time i thought that reeve was controling moogle robot and the cat was just a bonus :D

    • @lifeloverNorris
      @lifeloverNorris 4 года назад

      Wait you're telling me the cat wasn't just a bonus?

    • @floridaman8723
      @floridaman8723 4 года назад +3

      Yeah man. Like the cat just went for the ride, or some shit.

    • @FF18Cloud
      @FF18Cloud 4 года назад

      Could explain the megaphone

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero 5 лет назад +13

    I always loved cartoony and off-beat characters in otherwise serious RPGs, and when I was a kid, I used Cait Sith in almost every play through on my main party.
    Also, I actually did defeat Emerald Weapon using his Game Over Slots Limit Break xD

    • @himwhoisnottobenamed5427
      @himwhoisnottobenamed5427 2 года назад

      I’ve played this game a shit ton of times. He’s never been in my party unless it’s the Corel Prison part of the story. I strip him of his materia, and sell any shit I accidentally pick up.

  • @DioTheKnife
    @DioTheKnife 5 лет назад +24

    You know what? I'm totally okay with "magic" (or "Inspire") being the answer. To me it seems to fit in the FFVII world. You have an immortal pseudo-vampire gunman, a wolf/lion genius, a teenage ninja future empress, a guy that can shoot meteors out of his sword... Seems like it's a perfectly acceptable explanation to be honest.
    Edit: What if Inspire is Reeve's Stand ability?

    • @sefirotsgame
      @sefirotsgame 4 года назад +3

      Also, Bugenhagen can fly and none is surprised by that...

    • @mindxfuneral
      @mindxfuneral 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@sefirotsgameit’s theorized that he’s sitting on a ‘float’ materia

  • @ericmainez2028
    @ericmainez2028 5 лет назад +64

    Well Lulu can bring dolls to life sort of maybe Reeve is just like that or something

    • @chrism2887
      @chrism2887 5 лет назад +27

      Since 7 and 10 are in the same universe, it wouldn't be far fetched to say that Reeve could be a descendant of Lulu.

    • @jackmanleblanc2518
      @jackmanleblanc2518 5 лет назад +8

      @@chrism2887 Wait, what? They are? If that's true then I missed something huge lol

    • @6kine6tic67
      @6kine6tic67 5 лет назад +15

      @@jackmanleblanc2518 haha shinra from x-2 discovered time travel and went to the future and started the shinra company. Look into it lol

    • @edotendo2196
      @edotendo2196 5 лет назад +11

      @@6kine6tic67 Not time travel, he went to another planet (Gaia) and his descendant founded the shinra company :)

    • @chronica6457
      @chronica6457 3 года назад

      @@jackmanleblanc2518 They're not, FFX-2 simply had some easter eggs to 7 and the developers said fuck it and started messing around with the theory

  • @AvatarContinuum
    @AvatarContinuum 5 лет назад +7

    For Cait Sith's reaction after Aerith's death... I viewed it as him remembering his first fortune he gave both Cloud and Aerith (and subconciously doing the fortune telling animation) which slows and becomes distorted as he starts to feel responsible as he tries to comprehend what has just happened before just... shuffling away in shame and sadness... What you pursue will be yours, but you will lose something dear.

  • @Diamond_2403
    @Diamond_2403 3 года назад +6

    I think that dance he does after Aerith's death was just him trying to lighten the mood a little but then Cait Sith realized it wasn't the best of times.

  • @enjolraslechimiste
    @enjolraslechimiste 5 лет назад +78

    Suggestions for future episodes:
    1.) Jenova as a character. What do we know about "her?"
    2.) Jenova vs. Sephiroth. Who is controlling whom? Why is Sephiroth the embodiment of the bad guy and not the "more powerful" Jenova?
    3.) Pre-Zack timeline of the FF7 world. In other words, what is the history of the world BEFORE Zack enters the story? Basically, the history of the Ancients through Jenova and the weapons, beginnings of Shinra.
    4.) FF7 geography: what do we know about the various geographic locations?

    • @varsoonhks3211
      @varsoonhks3211 4 года назад +11

      On 2, I'm firmly of the mind that Jenova is controlling Sephiroth but also needs Sephiroth as her avatar/agent in the world. Sephiroth's kept alive for this purpose, and when you defeat Jenova at the end of the game, you then have to face off against a Sephiroth that has Jenova's powers and so much of an impression of her will upon his that the two are almost indistinguishable.
      Now, a lot of people will prop up Sephiroth as 'in control' due to his 'strong willpower' and will point to a passage from the Ultimania that says Sephiroth gained control or to when, in Northern Crater, Hojo says Sephiroth was having all the pieces of Jenova reconvene at Northern Crater. To address this:
      1. Sephiroth's willpower pre-Jenova is never explicitly made out to be strong. In fact, once you get to Nibelheim, it doesn't take him much time at all to snap.
      2. Sephiroth DOES gain control--at the very end of the game. When you fight him, stronger than ever.
      3. Jenova was keeping Sephiroth alive because she needed his body/mind to send that signal, because, through him, she could express a stronger control signal. Also-also, Hojo's not a great authority to point towards for any facts in the game. This is the man who tried to breed Aeris with Nanaki by putting them both in a sealed room together.
      From a meta-textual standpoint, it also makes much more sense for Jenova to be the primary antagonist and the one in control. Consider Square's other games around the same time--Chrono Trigger, Parasite Eve, Xenogears--all focused on stories about an alien/parasite that works through agents, usually manipulating people to its own ends.
      Even within Final Fantasy 7, it makes more narrative sense--part of the huge reveal of the game is that Cloud has been lying about his past. His actual connection to Sephiroth is much less meaningful than we are led to believe. If anyone's really responsible for burning down his town, it's Jenova. Until this reveal, the whole team (and the player) is strung along by false images of Sephiroth. Most players are able to grasp that Cloud isn't who he said he was, but, for some reason, they also don't understand that Sephiroth wasn't the person antagonizing and manipulating the party all along. The game so strongly convinces players of Cloud's narrative and Sephiroth's antagonism that when the big twist comes, most of those players are still convinced.
      Not me. Jenova's the villain of Final Fantasy 7, and the one in control.

    • @camazotzbat5970
      @camazotzbat5970 4 года назад +2

      @@varsoonhks3211 Worth adding that the characters themselves, Cloud and company, also can not grasp this in game and that's important to describing Jenova as an almost Cthulhu type of enemy without a face, but present everywhere, eldritch and alien and without ever speaking a word from its own mouth.
      Sephiroth is humanity's need to put a face to things like that, even when 'Sephiroth' was just the tip of a wiggly tendril.
      I always, myself, thought it extremely bizarre for Sephiroth to conclude that he could become a god by smashing a meteor into the planet. That sounds much more like a plan to shatter the planet and send parasitic tendrils deeper into the cosmos rather than a plan to 'become god because lifestream.' I know with this Reeve magic its all gonna be a little muddy, but seriously, Sephiroth's plan literally reads like it works out for Jenova, not Sephiroth, if you take the actions they're carrying out and not the words their mouths are flapping.

  • @jamesfitzgerald8267
    @jamesfitzgerald8267 5 лет назад +86

    The death scene for Cait was him trying to cheer up Cloud then realizing it was useless and then just gave up, and I think that was just the way the robot walks.

  • @westparkwolf
    @westparkwolf 3 года назад +6

    Everything going on with Cait Sith forshadows the twist with Cloud. Both are 'clones,' both are pawns being controlled by a higher power, both win by being who they are and asserting their individuality. He is even introduced as a literal fortune teller predicting Cloud's future. The writers knew exactly what they were doing with this great character and I'm amazed no one noticed.

    • @joenowak7212
      @joenowak7212 7 месяцев назад

      Clould isnt really a clone sepheroth just told him that to try and break him. Yet he does have the Jenova cells and mako infused in him. A clone is technically an identical copy made with the cells and or dna of the clonee. Cloud was already a person so hes basically augmented or a type of mutant.

  • @Doctorfan1673
    @Doctorfan1673 5 лет назад +63

    My name is Caitgirl02, because I am a fan of Cait Sith.
    I knew that he is useful. I love Cait Sith.

  • @xena91388
    @xena91388 4 года назад +10

    I think the generally accepted view is that Cait Sith is an A.I. in a robot body. Like JARVIS in Iron Man, he has his own opinions but carries out programmed commands from his creator. Instead of Reeve constantly controlling him like an RC plane, Reeve just gives him generally active commands like: "Help Cloud", "regroup with AVALANCHE", "monitor conversations for *keywords*", etc... and then once in while he can use him directly to "drop-in" like smart speakers such as Alexa can do.

  • @Asblomma
    @Asblomma 5 лет назад +28

    Maybe Reeve equipped the Manipulate materia paired with Long Range. Not too far-fetched imo

    • @Taios87entertainment
      @Taios87entertainment 5 лет назад +4

      Asblomma it would make sense that he’d place the materia in em during its development. 🤔

    • @globaltrance092
      @globaltrance092 5 лет назад

      Independent materia can't be paired with any effect with command materia.

  • @jd2092
    @jd2092 5 лет назад +6

    That first 20 seconds was probably the best intro I've ever seen. 10/10

  • @jimmycallahan9754
    @jimmycallahan9754 5 лет назад +10

    Hahahaha oh the intro I love it! I never noticed that weird mask thing until you pointed it out one day while I was watching your stream.
    My life hasn’t been the same since.

  • @foxymanaic5934
    @foxymanaic5934 2 года назад +3

    5:56 Hahaha I've never noticed that before, Mike edited the picture of the X-Men poster to have Reeve in the background and me seeing that literally made me burst out Laughing, I don't know why, I think it's maybe because everyone there is more detailed and Reeve is just standing in the background being less detailed or maybe it's funny because we know he doesn't belong there. That's hilarious. How have I never noticed that? Right I'm going to go back through a lot of these Final Fantasy 7 videos and see if I can find anything else I didn't notice before.

  • @Talinthis
    @Talinthis 5 лет назад +44

    8:53 CAIT SITH I CHOOSE YOU!! *throws pokeball*

    • @4-8Productions
      @4-8Productions  5 лет назад +10

      I find it so strange that she says this.

  • @twentygoodmen
    @twentygoodmen 5 лет назад +49

    Hmm...wait..
    ..Reeve.....REEVE?
    Keanu Reeves as Cait Sith in FFVII remake confirmed

    • @TheMixedPlateFrequency
      @TheMixedPlateFrequency 5 лет назад +1

      Yes!! That is brilliant! =D

    • @MrNK1411
      @MrNK1411 5 лет назад +5

      Wake the fuck up SOLDIER, we got a Mako reactor to blow up

    • @vogonp4287
      @vogonp4287 4 года назад

      It would fit.

    • @Big_Sierra
      @Big_Sierra Год назад

      He even looks like him already. XD

  • @varsoonhks3211
    @varsoonhks3211 4 года назад +5

    Cait Sith teaches us that the real furries aren't the talking dog-creatures that live for hundreds of years, but instead are Japanese businessmen that moonlight as stuffed mascot characters reading fortunes for people at amusement parks.

  • @reloadpsi
    @reloadpsi 5 лет назад +15

    That's just it: you can't really speak Kansai dialect in English, so they made a reference to his Celtic myth origin instead. That's just translators doing their job of conveying the flavour of his accent being exotic somehow.
    Also he doesn't do "evil Shinra stuff." He infiltrates Cloud's group with the intent of undermining Shinra - the keystone incident is just something he does to maintain that cover. Reeve is constantly shown as a dissenting voice in Shinra. At least, that's how I see it.

    • @calciferblack2409
      @calciferblack2409 5 лет назад +3

      But after the party meets the Turks near Gongaga, the characters theorise that they might be being spyed on. It's inferred that the Turks were there due to Cait Sith being a spy. Reeve definitely has better morals than the other Shinra executives but I don't think he INITIALLY joined the party to undermine the company.

  • @agranosclem
    @agranosclem 5 лет назад +8

    During the death scene, I kinda take it as Reeve breaking down with the rest of the party, causing Cait Sith to spaz out because of the mental link between him and Reeve

  • @easiestcc6451
    @easiestcc6451 5 лет назад +2

    I know im not the only one who LOVES cait sith's scottish voice! Its suprisingly PERFECT for him!

  • @SOLDIERSecondRateRaven
    @SOLDIERSecondRateRaven 5 лет назад +60

    Cait Sith's name has never been spoken in full aloud, but in one line in Dirge of Cerberus does have Cid refer to him as "Cait" pronounced like "Kate".

    • @CobraMJD
      @CobraMJD 5 лет назад +5

      If this is the English dub then it's completely irrelevant.

    • @taffmeister584
      @taffmeister584 4 года назад +24

      @@CobraMJD you're probably that one person that says sub is better than dub but you don't even understand the language

    • @filipzawistowski4390
      @filipzawistowski4390 4 года назад +8

      @@taffmeister584 DAMN, you slayed that weeb 😁

    • @darknutgaming5510
      @darknutgaming5510 4 года назад +4

      Raven19888 you’re right, its Gaelic and is pronounced something like “Ket Shee” or “Kite Shee”. I love these videos and the content is amazing but it’s painful to hear it butchered. Like back in the day my friends and I used to call Guile closer to Goolie so I let it go :)

    • @littlekitsune1
      @littlekitsune1 4 года назад

      @@taffmeister584 I understand both languages. Am I good enough to have an opinion, yet?

  • @poethewondercat7851
    @poethewondercat7851 5 лет назад +3

    Super happy to see this type of video here again!

  • @MountainHomeJerrel
    @MountainHomeJerrel 5 лет назад +2

    Mate, you're a legend. Keep up the great content and brilliant presentation. The Template of the Ancients scene with Cait Sith always blew my mind when I was a kid.

  • @Cure_Hana
    @Cure_Hana 4 года назад +75

    I feel like TeamFourStar handled Cait Sith’s development and mechanics a lot better in FFVII Machinabridged. While they still don’t go into much detail about how Reeve is able to control him, I think it’s safe to assume that he and Cait are one and the same, with Reeve speaking through the doll telepathically.
    While TFS Cait does have a touch of goofiness, he also shares Reeve’s neurotic tendencies. Two particular examples are how he gets easily nervous when Tifa starts to suspect that he might be trouble; and how he argues with Yuffie and Vincent during the tower-defense mini game at Ft. Condor, insisting that they manage resources carefully instead just randomly placing soldiers wherever they want.
    Another trait hinting that Cait really is just a vessel for Reeve is how they share the same memories. When Cloud and Aerith first meet him and ask for their fortunes, Cait Sith keeps giving answers that are completely unrelated to their questions, instead printing messages that sound like something out of Reeve’s diary (getting cheated on during a first date, how to make a birthday cake for one, his guilt if the Sector 7 tragedy, etc). Later on, Cid asks Cait what he imagines as his happy place when he closes his eyes, only for the latter to have PTSD flashbacks while hearing the screams of those who died in Sector 7.
    Finally, upon returning to Midgar with Cloud and co., Reeve tries to intercept Scarlet’s takeover by using Cait to tap into the TV system and communicate with the whole city. It’s hear that Cait Sith finally drops his Meowth-esque Brooklyn accent to speak to the citizens in Reeve’s normal voice, revealing that he’s just a puppet to hide his master’s identity, while Mog (the moogle he rides) channels out his inner depression and guilt.
    While TFS Cait Sith is still comedic in his own way, I think that he mainly serves as a way for Reeve to actually have a chance to be himself without being stuck inside a professional environment: someone who’s smart, compassionate, and likes to cheer people up, but has become weary and numb overtime from working with a corrupted corporation like Shinra.

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega 4 года назад +10

      So… he’s an office worker’s fursona…

    • @e2daron
      @e2daron 4 года назад +17

      And let’s not forget, “It’s because I fucking hate my job!”

    • @cookubanana
      @cookubanana 3 года назад +7

      I do actually prefere this interpretation, because it end up telling us that Cait Sith is a Reeve's persona that he created as some form of escapism from the stressfull and guilty work life he is trap in and honest it make them both more interesting characters as a result.

    • @cookubanana
      @cookubanana 3 года назад

      @tom gu Because is very unclear if they are or not the same character in canon

    • @MrOrcshaman
      @MrOrcshaman 2 года назад +3

      No joking, when he yelled that, it gave me shivers, and it really pushed cait and reeve in as likeable characters

  • @rednova2212
    @rednova2212 5 лет назад +1

    at the death scene, I believe Cait Sith was trying to do something like conjure up a fortune, something better. That's the dance thing he does when fortune telling at the gold saucer. But the fortune it got, probably, was another bad one. So he just didn't bother handing it over. It was also sort of a way of referencing how his fortune... in a sense... came true, when he gave it to cloud at the gold saucer.

  • @roaringviking5693
    @roaringviking5693 5 лет назад +3

    The answer lies in the Japanese version of the game Cait Sith's name is written with katakana, which is a fonetic script. So, in Japanese he is called "Ketto Shii". The O in Ketto is due to Japanese pronunciation where you have to have a vowel after each consonant.
    Therefore we know that the creators of the game intended his name to be pronounced "Ket Shii". Case closed.

  • @madestmadhatter
    @madestmadhatter 4 года назад +1

    There's a materia slot on one of the character designs of the crown, theory, Reeve uses experimental materia to copy a version of his personality onto the stuffed animal, the longer it exists the more it becomes it's own person, Cait Sith 3 has its own personality by the time it dies, Cait Sith 4 is new to controlling Mog and what you're seeing is him trying to get Mog to do something outside of it's basic movements, and failing that carefully removing itself from the situation, it's like a child burdened by the knowledge of an adult, it's trying it's hardest, but it's in way over its head.

  • @crayonkiler
    @crayonkiler 5 лет назад +14

    Damn, Cait Sith is trying to be too many things at once.

  • @neetpride5919
    @neetpride5919 5 лет назад +19

    Nice work man! I'm surprised Cait Sith was such an interesting character. So you have Cloud, Aeris, and Barret left?
    Barret ought to be your next one. Thanks for making these!

  • @ZebUrsoThera
    @ZebUrsoThera 4 года назад +9

    6:21 I think you're looking too deeply into part of a book that would have most likely been changed if it ever got an official English translation. In the Japanese version of Advent Children he probably spoke with a Kansai accent. Usually when Japanese media gets dubbed into English they translate the Kansai accent into a Southern accent because Kansai is considered to be the hick part of Japan, but they probably went with a Scottish accent for the dub because he's based on a creature from Scottish folklore.

  • @aeronsumilong
    @aeronsumilong 5 лет назад +43

    Cait sith is one of the most wtf characters ive ever encountered in all of my gaming life

  • @EmilyKitsune
    @EmilyKitsune 5 лет назад +8

    You know a character's great when you go 'WHAT!?' every 10 seconds or so even in a video by a guy who's done a decent amount research

  • @jamiecranton
    @jamiecranton 5 лет назад +23

    Cait gets alot of slack for being a spy but he's actually one of the most complex characters in the entire franchise.

  • @xRocketzFighterx
    @xRocketzFighterx 5 лет назад +12

    I was one of those weirdos who used cait sith alot as the support and caster.
    Sadly first time I saw that death scene. I wasn't really so happy to see that cheer up animation.

  • @slickstretch6391
    @slickstretch6391 5 лет назад +11

    Maybe the crown is like Terra's slave crown from Final Fantasy VI

  • @bobmalibaliyahmarley1551
    @bobmalibaliyahmarley1551 4 года назад +1

    I always thought Cait Sith was just some dude inside a big Moogle suit, I mean.. The damn thing even got a zipper on it's back!

  • @Hedronn
    @Hedronn 5 лет назад +4

    I think the reason why Death Joker and Game Over ignore death resistance is because there not actually death effects, or at least there not flagged as such in the game. I think it just sets the HP of the target to zero and the only reason I think this is because I actually got Game Over against Ultimate Weapon when I was hunting him down one play though. First fight I some how manged to not get evil flagged on it and he slunk off to Cosmo Canyon, I did have to fight him there so that means the game reset his hp if it does set it to zero when the attack goes though. Why Ruby would be immune to it is beyond me.
    But any way great vid, loved that start up of Dio's statue; the look on it's face sums up the first part of the vid very well. Can't wait for the next one.

  • @maxhutchinson6425
    @maxhutchinson6425 5 лет назад +1

    Dudeee your channel picture is sick as fuck I had a full nerdgasm so loyal to the style of the original character art!

  • @cmarkplaygames
    @cmarkplaygames 5 лет назад +88

    DID REEVE CREATE PEE-WEE'S PLAYHOUSE?! XD

  • @ski_ba
    @ski_ba 5 лет назад +1

    If you didn't run this channel I would never have repurchased ff7 and played through. Currently about to get the highwind for the first time at age 26. God Bless you man

  • @Sp1derFingers
    @Sp1derFingers 5 лет назад +13

    Just found your channel, still getting through the New Threat mod videos. Anyway keep up the good work

  • @Mischkyy
    @Mischkyy 4 года назад +1

    23:33 lol that look, "did I just get killed by a one hit f***ing Cat?!"

  • @MargaritoTrevino
    @MargaritoTrevino 5 лет назад +13

    RENO AND RUDE NEXT! or just the Turks in general

  • @Sabercat-ub9dc
    @Sabercat-ub9dc 5 лет назад

    Cait Sith Shuffle turning to walk away was such a awkward thing to see that it was funny. You were holding back the urge to laugh yourself.

  • @BarbaraO-to6ph
    @BarbaraO-to6ph 5 лет назад +30

    shocked when people dont use Cait!
    he was my healer once Aeris died, he's a great healer, or all round

    • @gz1236
      @gz1236 4 года назад +9

      He's a white mage and a gambler all along, the reason why they don't use cait sith is because of his betrayal and his difficult limit break

    • @zero71234
      @zero71234 4 года назад +4

      It's a bummer it just has 2 limits

    • @AkaiAzul
      @AkaiAzul 4 года назад

      Final Fantasy Record Keeper agrees with you.

    • @ericorenato88
      @ericorenato88 4 года назад +1

      15 playthroughs and I never used him or Yuffie

  • @Fluckinoob
    @Fluckinoob 5 лет назад +2

    Just found out about and boy you deserve way more credit. Quality content. Subbed

  • @Rhyno430
    @Rhyno430 5 лет назад +47

    Me every time I play FF7 *I’ll use Cait Sith this time*
    “Ugggghhhh I hate Cait Sith I wish the temple would have ended him”

    • @BingBangPoe
      @BingBangPoe 5 лет назад +6

      @Heavy Metal Collector Shinji from Persona 3 is a fantastic character, though. And he has huge weight to the plot.

    • @Laurmachi
      @Laurmachi 5 лет назад +11

      Cait Sith is a good magic caster after Aireth gets shanked, and fixed damage with Dice can be rather helpful against high def bosses. I'm using him currently actually and I do really enjoy using him.

    • @Cosmic-Turtle
      @Cosmic-Turtle 4 года назад +5

      @Heavy Metal Collector Nah. He's a really cool and unique character. It's better that he's a permanent member of the team.

  • @DrDizzleFrizzle
    @DrDizzleFrizzle 5 лет назад +1

    I found Cait Sith's reaction to be pretty heartbreaking to be honest. He's a robotic cat designed for entertainment, so his reaction was to try to cheer up Cloud, but he quickly realized it was fruitless. It seemed like an innocent, childlike reaction and I think it fit perfectly. Yuffie, Tifa and Cait Sith's reactions were the best in my opinion.

    • @DrDizzleFrizzle
      @DrDizzleFrizzle 5 лет назад

      Also, I relate to his reaction. As someone that grew up very emotionally neglected, I've always struggled with moments like this, and I have resorted to trying to cheer someone up in a very inappropriate time because I didn't know what to do. It's the only way he knew how to react, in my head cannon. It's a Cait Sith reaction, not Reeve.

  • @Daniel_Coffman
    @Daniel_Coffman 4 года назад +4

    You can actually see in Cait Sith's Japanese name that his name is still pronounced, "Ketto-shi;" both in Shin Megami Tensei and Final Fantasy. For comparison, if they were to have pronounced it like Star Wars' Sith side like the new spelling suggests, they would have specifically said, "Ketto-Shisu," as "Shisu" is how they pronounce Star Wars' "Sith."
    As for Cait Sith's accent in the English version, it's because we can't very well get differences in accents in non-English languages; let alone translate them to an actual English accents. I'm even pretty sure that if we heard a "normal" Japanese person and a person with a Kansai Japanese accent both speaking English, we likely wouldn't know any difference; just that they're obviously both Japanese. The closest we can recognize is just another non-American English-speaking accent we already know. Speaking of Shin Megami Tensei, we can see this in Labrys in Persona 4 Arena. Her Japanese version has her speaking in a Kansai accent, as well, which the English version changes to a Boston accent; because it's how they can at least get the point of a different accent itself across. Ayumu Kasuga from Azumanga Daioh is another example. She's from Osaka, but, obviously, since we can't distinguish an Osaka accent from any other Japanese accent in English, she was given a Brooklyn accent in the localized manga and then later in the localized anime a Southern accent.

  • @Velral
    @Velral 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much! Your FF7 materia/boss guides and videos like this made me 100% this game on Steam. :D

  • @marcocastro9778
    @marcocastro9778 5 лет назад +14

    Well worth the wait, mate! Thank you

  • @StageCraftBeast
    @StageCraftBeast 3 года назад +1

    Seeing Cait Sith go up to Aeriths dead body, dance a bit, pretend to look sad, and then waddle away made me laugh my ass off so hard lmfao.

  • @V3daStarr
    @V3daStarr 5 лет назад +13

    Just a Thought... maybe Cait Sith is a familiar. A stuffed toy brought to life by Reeve summoning some demon to control. Think Salem(TV show) witches/warlocks pets. That would make sense and fill in the plot holes. Inanimate mass produced maybe meant to contain a body jumping demon that controls the robot mog. Just a thought...

    • @MrHakubi
      @MrHakubi 5 лет назад

      Isn't that kind of exactly what he said Reeve can do I'm the video..minus it being a demon.

  • @Seedmember
    @Seedmember 5 лет назад +1

    Confirmed. Reeve is the Beast from Beauty and the Beast. All the cutlery are his animatronics.

  • @MrDusuke
    @MrDusuke 5 лет назад +9

    That video was great, I missed that video analysis you make. You should do more videos like these. Thank you!

  • @jaidencarvalho1761
    @jaidencarvalho1761 4 года назад +2

    Awesome video on Cait Sith! He always stood out to me and I'm glad I gave him a chance by using him and learning his slots! Game Over!!! Anyone else use Cait Sith in their party?

  • @simovihinen875
    @simovihinen875 5 лет назад +14

    After seeing this, I'm fairly sure I've uncovered the true pronunciation...
    "cat shit".

  • @jessica2575
    @jessica2575 4 года назад +1

    Cait Sixth is the craziest character and I often forget about him totally.

  • @Knuckx117
    @Knuckx117 4 года назад +6

    This is the first time I've heard about the 'evil' flag... That's mean.

  • @cyanimation1605
    @cyanimation1605 4 года назад

    I always saw it as, Reeve’s just really into LARPing, and it’s him whenever he speaks but the robot’s AI takes control whenever in battle

  • @ncjrath
    @ncjrath 5 лет назад +6

    Good video man! I'd love to hear more about Cissnei, or just the turks all together.

  • @ino_mation
    @ino_mation 4 года назад

    Just re-playing through original FF7 here myself and I came across your channel. Haven't played it in at least 15+ years. Can't agree more, it's Cait Sith, the cat is sentient, and his sacrifice scene is the most emotional part of FF7 by far, when I was a kid, it made me cry, when I was an adult now re-playing it, knowing it was coming, it made me cry. Aerith's scene got nothin' outta me, ever.

  • @Hero-of-Midgar
    @Hero-of-Midgar 5 лет назад +6

    There is something else also, Young Cloud (Kalm Flashback) has his limit break as Dice, but i don't think you can ever legitimately see it

  • @abrahamcampozano8068
    @abrahamcampozano8068 4 года назад +1

    I think Cait sith is just an actual Celtic god in the ff7 game, having some fun living life and messing with things.

  • @PastoKage
    @PastoKage 5 лет назад +7

    I think that at the end, Caith Sith is just a remote controlled robot, that "pilot" another robot.
    The monologue in the temple of the ancient, and the "Caith Sith Sacrifice" is a way for Reeve to atone for his sins and move on as a better person, that fight for what he believe in. The new Caith Sith is pretty much the "new" Reeve, that have a clear mind and will to do what is right. Also the fact that the robo-cat is equipped with the Manipulate Materia when you first meet "him", is a neat hint of the fact that he is just a controlled robot. Is a simple way to see it maybe, but is what I believe the original game hint as the truth. Everything Square-Enix did after that is another story, good old SquareSoft FFVII is what I consider canon.
    PS: is there any way to play Before Crisis in english?

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte 5 лет назад

      A fan remake the game in RPG Maker. Ypu should google it.

    • @globaltrance092
      @globaltrance092 5 лет назад

      It would be impossible for Reeve to control Cait Sith all the time. Those were Cait Sith's own words as an independent, sentient robot in the temple of the ancients.

    • @globaltrance092
      @globaltrance092 3 года назад

      @tom gu It doesn't make sense that Reeve would be talking through Cait Sith 24/7. He is controlling Cait Sith, but Cait Sith does things on his own as well.

  • @a.h.emerson3541
    @a.h.emerson3541 4 года назад +1

    I lost it when you zoomed in on spiral eyes Reeves head with the game over tune!!

  • @nathanwickstrom9684
    @nathanwickstrom9684 5 лет назад +8

    So Reeve has somewhat godlike powers? I bet he knows where his house is at :P

  • @jsteel89
    @jsteel89 3 года назад

    "Along the road ahead lies something you need, however in order to claim it you must lose something dear to you."

  • @spazzwazzle
    @spazzwazzle 5 лет назад +4

    Death, great video, and I prefer to pronounce it "Cait Sith" (or "Cat Smith") because it sounds better, but the Japanese name is "ketto shi", which is a Japanified version of Ket Shee. I'm not looking forward to his Scottish accent in the remake. I think he should keep his character as-is.

  • @fictionmyth
    @fictionmyth 4 года назад +1

    I think Cait Sith, during Aerith's death scene, was supposed to be goofy and off-color for the mood. I took it as this goofy-ass cat being unable to understand the dour mood of the moment where it then tries to cheer people up by doing a silly dance, fails at cheering people up, gets upset with himself, then scuttles away like fucking Zoidberg towards anywhere else. He is a comedic character and it would make sense that the devs intended people who use him to get rewarded with a comedic scene during a heavy moment. Most of the people who pick him will be the littlest of kids. Having his actions cheer up sad children makes sense. If I am right about anything I just said, that is.

  • @EvanSchatz
    @EvanSchatz 5 лет назад +7

    I always called Bahamut "Buh-hommit," ever since FF1. He's like the Bahamas, you know. What was everybody else calling him?

  • @thephoenix7242
    @thephoenix7242 3 года назад

    I always assumed it was some sort of cybernetic implant that he designed to mentally influence / control Cait Sith. His “hobby" is inventing things, and Cait Sith is his ultimate invention

  • @genesisr90
    @genesisr90 5 лет назад +3

    Um Cid called him "Cait" in Dirge of Cerberus.

  • @YugaCharr
    @YugaCharr 4 года назад

    Another possibility regarding caith sith's death in the temple.
    If we follow the route of him being basically being a puppet, it could be another part of the act (expression of Reeve).
    Though the character of caith lives on through Reeve, that was still an individual body. And the monologue an act of Reeve as a sentimental moment about the losing of another of his caith sith bodies.
    Also, it must be super stressful working so high up at shinra for a guy with a heart. Acting through caith sith could be way of relief for him. The more whimsical persona in contrast to the stiff business culture he partakes in at work.
    The idea of caith being sentient is also cool though.

  • @Romalian
    @Romalian 5 лет назад +16

    You never have to use Cait Sith?
    I thought he's mandatory in your party when you're escaping Junon at the beginning of Disc 2?

    • @TheMixedPlateFrequency
      @TheMixedPlateFrequency 5 лет назад +2

      I thought he was Mandatory in that area too and temple of the ancients.

    • @omgyeti2049
      @omgyeti2049 4 года назад +2

      Romalian I literally came here looking for this. I just finished a new playthrough, and I definitely had to have him in my party there.

  • @jamesrandell384
    @jamesrandell384 4 года назад +1

    in FF14, the cait in there is a familiar. so I believe thats correct that reeve (through magic) created a cat familiar. familiars can be sentient and their own 'person' (like the one in FF14) and so it makes more sense here in 7. considering magic exists and whatnot.

  • @nostalgiaverse9892
    @nostalgiaverse9892 5 лет назад +7

    This video was great. I was also confused on how he seemed sentient.
    I love what you do keep it up!
    I wonder how they will tackle him in the Remake.