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Jordan's basketball I.Q., bigger hands (which is why he finished all those acrobatic lay-ups) quicker first step & overall athletic ability, willingness to be coached, Jordan was a better defender. I agree Kobe took more difficult outside shots but I think that speaks to his not having that cat quickness that MJ had which is why (even into his Wizards stint) his jab step opened up his mid-range. I look at Kobe as the best player who put himself in crazy predicaments (jump shooting wise) & would still make them.
@@JeromeLPitts bro Kobe first step was crazy fast he just lost it a bit quicker due to injuries in the knees. afro Kobe was just blowing by guys who played 2 feet off. he settled for jumpers more I believe like the video suggested because he came out the gate with pure confidence in his jumper.
KOBE = BOAT = Best of all time Jordan = GOAT - as a result of his physical advantages , jumping , upper body , hands. But Kobe is the most skilled player ever. RIP
Another big difference between the two was Michael had one of the quickest first steps in NBA history. This allowed him to get to the basket more easily and more frequently than Kobe could.
I've said this for years, the main difference between the two was Jordan had the better body. Naturally stronger, bigger and more durable. It's something their trainer also alluded to when discussing how he trained both guys differently. The reason Kobe took harder shots is he didn't have the same effortless explosiveness MJ had or the vertical. This probably did lead to Kobe's need to work harder than MJ.
The fact that Kobe had to work harder should not be an argument that he is better than Jordan in that aspect. When you are naturally gifted those that are not have to work harder to even get close to you. The fact that Kobe worked harder and could not best MJ is a testament to MJ’s natural advantage. But the fact that Kobe was able to approach 85-90% of MJ style is a testament to his determination and greatness on the court. I wish we could have seen them both in their primes against each other. They both would have killed this era.
Another fact is MJ’s basketball IQ is higher. No offence to Kobe, but MJ knew how to win without trying to hard and risking everything, and also he was a much better passer. That made Jordan play still well in the older age. If Koke had those thing, he could have played till 41 like Dirk
I only believe Kobe was the harder worker because he was competing (in his own mind) with Jordan. Kobe knew he was playing for Jordan's coach. He knew he was training with Jordan's personal trainer. In his mind, he was competing against Jordan. He knew Phil and Tim would subconsciously compare the two. Jordan was not competing against Kobe. Jordan did what he needed to do to dominate the NBA. He was competing with himself. There was no Kobe pushing him. So it's an unfair comparison.
You are absolutely right, I totally agree, but that mindset of Kobe is the reason he is the 2nd greatest shooting guard ever behind mike..but that mindset also made Kobe the deadly player he was...you can honestly argue that Kobe is a top 5 player off skills alone...other than mike there's no other player who could kill you in so many ways like Kobe could...that mindset of competing with MJ in his own mind actually was the best thing that happened to kobe
Their differences pretty much boils down to MJ being born with natural gifts and as well as being more of a natural virtuoso while Kobe had a more undying fire and worked harder than every one else to be were he was at.
@@veterannavy304 The man's dead. Get off his jockstrap already. Sure. Ignore every other time MJ made the game making shot. Bet the entire population of Utah is gonna disagree with you. Bet they haven't forgotten that shot. Stop it. Get some help
@@veterannavy304 And passing it to great shooters who are open is the right basketball play to make. The sport is 5 on 5, not 1 on 1. I personally think it's those plays that are a part of Jordan's greatness. All about winning with his incredibly high basketball IQ and not just about the individual accolades.
Kobe’s work ethic reminds of Vegeta in DBZ for the simple fact that it can ultimately be a detriment to you wanting to be the best due to pushing yourself too hard.
Yeah. Imo put Cr7(Cristiano Ronaldo)up there with Kobe in Work ethic,if u do research u will understand why 😅... And with Jordan in competitiveness as he his one of (maybe the) greatest champions in soccer and probably the most Clutch.And he always trying to show he's the best at everything he tries so... Very nice topic 👌🏾💯
@@louis-pg753 Cristiano, Kobe, Goggins and Mayweather take hard work beyond comprehension. Cristiano in Messi's shadow, Kobe in Jordan's, Mayweather in Ali's. The irony...
The Ball Handling was different too. Kobe had more playground- Kyrie Irving type moves. Kobe's upper body was more twisty as well, which gave him that snake like- Mamba- look as he slithered through defenders.
you are so smart . "Kyrie Irving like moves" is the best way to explain it . I try to tell folks how similar they actually play especially 8 Mamba but they don't get it. lol
Young Jordan was extremely dynamic in the air. The Air nickname isn’t just about jumping from the FT line. It’s about doing things in the air that nobody else did before him and no one has done since.
I'm imagining Jordan finishing his meal, standing up so fast he knocks over the table then holding up his hands in the air while Kobe looks on like, "Wait, what's happening?"
Finally, someone who explains it perfectly. My friend and I have mentioned all these things multiple times for decades, as huge fans of both MJ and Kobe. Great video
I made my oldest daughter and son play all summer with their left hand only for a few years. My son still plays ball and it's hard to tell if he's right or left handed. Even when shooting jumpers. Great skill to learn and Kobe was awesome at it
Tim Grover also said that MJ works smart, knows when to push and when to pull, knows his limits. While Kobe works harder, pushing himself beyond his limits.
To add a few extras: Jordan used a larger variety of moves to score in game, but Kobe had a larger overrall repertoire as he took all MJ's moves and combined it with the evolving NBA, but often would 'settle' for contested jumpers. MJ also utilised an extra step or two to get that tiny bit closer to the basket for his finishes. Jordan had a quicker first step and played lower to the ground on his drives, leaning in aggressively sideways like a motorbike, but Kobe played more upright. MJ was also often faster rotating on his turnaround jumpers. Overrall MJ played a faster more athletic style and Kobe played a sometimes more measured style midrange and outside shooting game, relying less on his athleticism.
MJ, like damn near EVERYBODY back then didn't even bother practicing 3's either. It's why the bump in shooting efficiency these days is kind of misleading. If guys like Bird or MJ actually _practiced_ those shots? Jordan only took a little over 2 3's a game.
@@michlo3393 Yeah, there was no three for MJ until after his first year at UNC. Back in the late 70s and early 80s, you were better off spending extra time practicing getting closer to the hoop than attempting shots from 24 feet out. On the other hand, every high school gym in America had a three-point line in the 90s.
@@dsong2006 You beat me to it. I think MJ's 3 point % is a little inflated because of the shorter distance. Both MJ and Kobe were OK 3 point shooters but that great.
@@lyricalmike7162 no he's not he's just a human who needs tools and gadgets. yeah he's in top physical shape for a human but super man is an alien so he could squash him if he wanted to. super strength, can fly, and he can shoot lasers from his eyes.
Coolest and most respectful comparison of two legends I’ve ever seen in a video, and MJ/Kobe is one of the harder ones to pull off. Engaging, well-written and fair. Keep at it man you’re one of the best at what you do
I feel like one of the biggest differences that you missed was the fact that Jordan was a more vertical presence around the rim, providing similar rim protection to an athletic forward like LeBron. Kobe on the other hand often was flatfooted near the basket and resorted to a swipe-down move.
Well to be fair. He added some arsenals and make it a little better. Like ball handling and that fadeaway of Kobe was a beauty to watch. Jordan the original and Kobe was the remix.
Jordan drove everyone of his teammates to the brink with his work ethic,obsession to perfection and how he took over practices for Phil Jackson and Phil let him,cause Phil knew Jordan Knew and could drive his teammates to get it done,GREATEST thing Kobe inherited from Jordan besides Phil Jackson was his ability to lead in practices the same way,exactly why him Shaq went at it so much with Kobe even punching Shaq in practice The work ethic is why Kobe has more rings than Shaq
Agreed. MJ was naturally athletic; Bean had to work at it. Iverson(AI) was the same- naturally athletic, he just needed to condition more and really PRACTICE 😂 and his career would’ve been extremely superior to an already fantastic one.
That's euphoria. It's like that. MJ is a hard worker. And has is own style. Kobe has worked hard, to be near MJ. In every single move. And he still not like MJ, with 5 thousand more hours of training. Easy!
@@Ichifate I finished the script for my Hakeem Olajuwon video and I'm in the process of making my "If the NBA had a playoff MVP series." I'm editing the 2010's vid and I'm researching for the 2000's.
Jordan was a bit more athletic and his movements were always so crisp and controlled, almost mechanical. He had a great knack for being able to get a couple feet of separation to get an open look on his jumpers. Kobe kind of flailed sometimes and looked a lot more casual, he took a lot more difficult contested shots. I think that's the biggest difference in how they appeared on the court.
As a diehard Jordan fan, with Kobe as my second favorite... Great video and completely true. You could have mentioned the years the three point line was moved in closer would have helped raise Jordan's percentage a little closer to Kobe's. I believe MJ had one more season than Kobe in those years. Kobe had one, but was a rookie who didn't get much playing time while Jordan was leading the league in scoring shooting a lot. So that helped him close the gap just a little bit more on that percentage difference. My opinion... The two best 2 guards of all time. I feel the only thing Kobe was better at was, maybe the slightest bit a better dribbler. Kobe was better slightly at free throws, as the percentage shows. And Kobe had a better 3 ball, especially from deep. Jordan's defense was way better, and his bigger hands as you said. And in my opinion as a person that watched hundreds and thousands of games of both, people will disagree... But I feel Jordan had a better jumper. Especially in his championship years. Not 3's, but 2"s. No hate. Love them both. Best 2 guards ever. Just comparing...
respectfully, jordan was not a better defensive player than kobe. although jordan is right after kobe defensively in my book, kobe had 12 all nba defensive 1st teams in a row and he had more competition in the early 2000s than jordan in the late 90s.
MJ was a better game manager. He scored more consistently (8, 8, 8, 8) where Kobe was more up and down (2, 12, 4, 16). MJ's teammates were more comfortable knowing what they would get from MJ throughout the game. On the other end, MJ was better at stopping the opposing team's momentum so his team didn't fall prey to the other team's runs as much as Kobe's teams did.
The absolute biggest difference to me is college. MJ learned from Dean Smith who modeled a lot of his teaching after the great John Wooden who is probably the greatest coach of all time.
Yup all of free fundamental skills are taught in college and college basketball coaches are patient in teaching players how to do it the right way. Professional coaches in pro Leagues tends to fast track everything. If a player forgot just one small detail, then his process is in the mess if he join the pro ranks too early.
Agree. It's the reason why Jordan was polished at certain things at a young age and it helped him to play with other players in a team system. Mainly helped him to play off the ball and develop the skills in reference to what that does.
I think it was their upbringing. Michael grew up with brothers. He had to learn to share. He played multiple team sports, so he fundamentally understood the concept of teamwork. He also wasn't always the best person on the team, so he learned to depend and trust his teammates. Jordan had a fundamental understanding that he needed to rely on teammates in a game and that he could make up the difference. Kobe grew up isolated as his father was a pro basketball player, which set him apart, then he moved to Italy, which literally made him a foreigner, then he moved back to Philly where he had a different mentality from his classmates since he had already grown up alone and spent all his time playing basketball. He stood out on his high school team as the best player because basketball was the way he created his identity his whole life. Kobe fundamentally was a loner who had little trust for others because of his upbringing. I think if Kobe had grown up playing with other kids more, he would have been a more willing passer and picked his shots better. He didn't overcome that flaw in his mentality.
Jonny, you are the most criminally undersubscribed channel on RUclips. Great content. Without going into a prime-to-prime statistical comparison, you perfectly compared my two favorite scorers of all time. RIP, Mamba
Competitiveness, work ethic and dedication are what sets apart the great players from the rest. Players like Jordan and Kobe had far more of it than someone like Shawn Kemp. Someone back in the day described Jordan as being single-mindedly obsessed with winning and that he played the game with a controlled rage. Speaking to his dedication, if I remember my facts correctly there was a time during the Bulls' first 3-peat in which the NBA market had passed Jordan by as a result of the multi-year deal he was playing under at the time and as a result, he had become the 15th highest paid player in the league. Rather than sulking, holding out, demanding a trade or a restructuring of his contract like practically every other player would have done, he honored the deal he signed and played out his contract to the end. That is the type of dedication and integrity you just don't see in professional sports anymore. As a result, the Bulls compensated him for past services rendered in his next contract and made him what I believe was the first $30 million a year player in professional sports history.
Wow! I am a die-hard Kobe fan and I was still fascinated by a lot of the things said here. You are really becoming one of my favorite basketball RUclipsrs nowadays. Keep it up!
About Kobe's outside shot, he also chose to shot lower percentage shots with defenders right in his face. Jordan picked higher efficient shots which means if Kobe took better efficient shots it would have lead to an even higher FG%. You can say that is a point for or against Kobe but it is what it is. I'm an MJ guy, but I feel like it is something that should be noted. ****edit**** Sorry I see you mention this in the next point, my bad.
Kobe was the greatest data analyst in NBA history, and a top 5 all time athlete in NBA history, coming off a childhood of analyzing the greatest player in NBA history. The fact he targeted hand and forearm workouts to counter (thru literal sheer force) the hand size issue is 🤯
Awesome on point video they both where Great MJ just had a style about his game that seemed effortless. MJ created more space with his shot selection and was more fundamentally sound what a joy to see them 2.
For the left-hand dominance I think they're even, there's a footage of MJ shooting free throws and regular jumpshots with his left hand, it's just that majority of MJ's left-hand scoring are from reverse layups.
Jonny, something else that must be accounted for when talking about three point shooting is the three years the nba moved the line closer as mj made nearly half of his total career threes in that stretch. He shot 3.3 per game and made 40.4%. If you look at the rest of his career, it was just about 1.3 attempts per game at 28.8%. His career three pointer numbers greatly benefited from having two full seasons(and part of 94-95) with some of his deep mid range shots counting as threes
Nah.. It's more likely on more attempts made MJ more efficient regardless of distance (shortened or not). His >35% in original length 3pt line with at least 2.5 3PA: Regular Season: 1989-90 3 3APA @38% 1992-93 2.9 3PA @35% Playoffs: 1992-93 3.8 3PA @39%
@@lamefart I get what you’re saying, but I think there is a reason he only shot more than 2.5 threes per game in two seasons with the regular line, and why he only shot above 32% twice as well. It’s possible he got into a good groove those years and rode the hot hand. Either way, the argument that kobe was a better shooter is pretty clear
@@dereknoble6796 yeah, I agree. Kobe had the range but MJ had the efficiency. But in mid-range shooting, MJ's in a league of his own. Kobe would drop 3s like freethrows if he was hot. In MJ's words, he chose not to shoot 3s. What a troll, he made an NBA record in the finals just to prove a point. 🤣
From everything that we know about MJ and his priorities, Phil's suggestion that Kobe was a harder worker probably threw him into a fit of rage. There are few things MJ is more proud of than his work ethic and drive.
Before, lots of Jordan fans didn’t like Kobe, but now it seems like if someone likes one then they like the other. They are actually very different players, and playing like Jordan definitely isn’t the only way to be the best. We rarely compare Jordan to others, just others to him and that’s unfair to everyone else because the goat argument became specifically crafted around Jordan’s résumé so that he will always be considered the goat.
Omg thank you for this video. It seriously was night and day body/athletic wise with Kobe and MJ. Love this video, I mean all in all they were both transcending players of their era. Michael a little more but Black mamba will always and forever be my favorite player to watch hands down. Best tough shot maker I’ve ever seen!!! RIP 24
2 other major discrepancies between MJ and Kobe: (1) Kobe was more explosive scoring-wise. This was said earlier in the video but there are numerous examples of Kobe being the more explosive scorer. His 81 point game, the 62 points in 3 Quarters against the Mavericks, the 56 points in 3-Quarters against the Grizzlies, the 51 points in 3 Quarters against the Nuggets, his 12 3s against the Sonics, his 42 points in one half against the Wizards, etc. are among the many examples of Kobe being more explosive as a scorer than MJ. (2) Jordan liked to bring his A-Game against the best teams. Among MJ's best exploits scoring-wise were his 63 points against the 67-win Celtics (1st in DRtg), his 61 points against the Pistons in 1987 (5th in DRtg), his 59 points against the Pistons in 1988 (3rd in DRtg), his 54 points against the Knicks in 1993 (1st in DRtg), his 55 points against the Knicks in 1995 (1st in DRtg), his 50 points against the Heat in 1997 (1st in DRtg), and his 51 points against the Knicks in 1997 (2nd in DRtg). Let's not forget his exploits against the Suns in 1993 and the numerous 50+ point games he's dropped against the Cavs. Kobe on the other hand, has scored his highest scoring games against weak teams. His 81 points came against a 27-55 Raptor team (25th in DRtg), his 65 points against the Trailblazers was against a 32-50 team (26th in DRtg), his 61 points against the Knicks was against a 32-50 team (23rd in DRtg), his 60 points against the Grizzlies was against a 22-60 team (30th in DRtg), his 58 points against the Bobcats was against a 33-49 team (20th in DRtg), his 56 points in 3 Quarters against the Grizzlies was against a 23-59 team (20th in DRtg), his 55 points against the Wizards was against a 37-55 team (18th in DRtg), and his 51 points in 3 Quarters against the Nuggets was against a 17-65 team (surprisingly 6th in DRtg though). Even Kobe's Playoff career high against the Suns was against a team who were 16th in DRtg.
Thanks for doing a Kobe compared to MJ video instead of the MJ vs LeBron thing we have been forced to put up with for the last decade. I love them both! I have to give the nod to MJ, but Kobe is amazing.
I think the main difference with 3pt shooting is just that Kobe was better at volume shooting, whereas Michael could dominate with midrange/paint shots, and only needing 3pt shots when absolutely necessary.
1.Jordan is graceful and forceful at the same time, kobe is graceful and slippery. 2. Jordan's landing after a dunk or layup is very light, he can bounce right back and run. 3. Jordan is the better defender
The shot Selection one Is so on point i didnt now how to explain It, thats the reason mjs supporting cast had to be good because they were gonna get involved but with Kobe if you werent already good you wouldnt get touches.
It's not even close. Jordan is probably the best ever midrange shooter in history if you look at efficiency + volume. Dude was automatic and got so much lift on his j it was unguardable.
I think the difference was that Jordan put into good use his God given talent along with being a Freak of Nature as well... While Kobe had to work his ass off to close those gaps resulting in his body gaving up on him.
MJ used his teammates better. Kobe became more self reliant, particularly in between the Shaq & Gasol era (when he was playing D-League players & misfits), then after the Gasol era also.
Jonny! I have a video idea. How about an in-depth look at great but not superstar players who are underappreciated. People like Jeff Hornacek. I'd love to see a documentary on someone like him.
Totally agree. Another thing is some of these people who love making these MJ vs Kobe comparisons always seem to forget it's not like Jordan and Kobe played in parallel universes were one player didn't know the other existed and they had the same playing style. One player saw and copied another players whole playing style and professional demeanor. As a basketball fan, that will always have an impact on where his legacy is.
There's a video of Will Smith talking about Jordan's competitiveness. Someone may have already commented about it. He says something like "You could be getting a drink of water and MJ would be like 'Race ya!' and turn his glass up and start chugging..." LOL I can totally see that. Great video Jonny!
@@Bsk8erzero ...Julius Winfield Erving II's hands are bigger than Michael Jeffrey Jordan and Kawhi Anthony Leonard's. Unfortunately, Kobe Bean Bryant's aren't as big as the aforementioned above.
Vid is 100% spot-on. MJ's the gifted one while Kobe's just about above average. Ofc as they both developed their similar drive to the game, it boils down to their natural capabilities.
The thing I'd add, is that Jordan was a better passer, he's second all time only behind magic in assists per game in a finals series, he's second all time in assists by a SG, and when asked to be a PG for the second half of the season he averaged 10 assists and had 10 triple doubles in 11 games while still averaging 30+ppg. Also if you check his passing highlights you'll see he made some unbelievable passes throughout his career that almost no other player could make.
@@user-jg6gu87tfcdrtbb HAHA oh wow that’s his fualt completely god forgive he played 3 more seasons 😂😂 thats like discrediting kareem for playing 21 seasons LOL
Kobe in his 20yr career: 25 ppg 5.2 reb 4.7 ast 44.7 FG 32.9 3PT 83.7 FT Kobe without the last 3yrs post achillies: 25.5 ppg 5.3 reb 4.8 ast 45.4 FG 33.6 3PT 83.8 FT Only slight decrease. But i find it funny that people shit on kobe for being an "inefficient scorer" when he only shot 5% lower than average for a man who consistently took shots while being double teamed, triple teamed, quadruple teamed or having the whole entire team on him.
Jordan played an era when the nba only allowed one on one..kobe played an era where zone defense was legal..3 or 4 guys would slide in to help stop the offensive player…even Jordan was against zone defense 😂😂😂
The most clear-cut difference between the both of them is that Kobe has a tendency to force the issue and has a hot and cold tendency that isolates his teammates, whereas Jordan, under Jackson, went on to precisely _not_ do that _and_ somehow, still keep his ice cold competitive edge. Jordan was definitely more of an asshole, so it absolutely baffles me how people rallied around _that_ brand of jerk but when Kobe did it, it just resulted in pushing people away. Maybe it's because Michael went to college and had Dean Smith to steer and channel that energy, but if people can give me a proper read into this, I'd consider myself more educated for it.
you and me both. This is a good analysis. Phil - in his book "Eleven Rings" - attributes it in part to LA's culture being more individualistic and ego-driven which made getting players to listen to his coaching far harder for him. Perhaps that's why Kobe's energy came off as more abrasive in that particular environment.
Kobe was All NBA Defense 12x, 9x 1st Team. Magic repeatedly got burned in the Finals by the likes of Danny Ainge, Dennis Johnson, and John Paxson. Kobe would never allow that sort of thing to happen... Kobe was also the far superior offensive player. Magic was the ultimate floor general, but his perimeter & outside shooting prowess was limited.
@@melvinhhcp3615 he become a good three point shooter at the end of his career. The thing is when bird b Magic joined the league thats when the three point line was introduced. So it’s inevitable to think they’d be amazing shooters but bird was! And Magic wasn’t
Great videos. Love your "straight mins", "real mvp's", & my favorite "how good is he". But unless I overlooked him, I haven't seen the "how good was Oscar?" Been an NBA fan since I was 13 (1965). I've seen most of the best to ever suit up...& I truly respect your work. Looking forward to hopefully seeing a Big O video in the near future.
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What is the biggest difference between Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan?
Can you please do ak47 and Draymond green to how there different.
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Kobe vertical probably was around 42 they did his vertical test at age 17 I'm sure it got better as he grew a little more
Jordan's basketball I.Q., bigger hands (which is why he finished all those acrobatic lay-ups) quicker first step & overall athletic ability, willingness to be coached, Jordan was a better defender. I agree Kobe took more difficult outside shots but I think that speaks to his not having that cat quickness that MJ had which is why (even into his Wizards stint) his jab step opened up his mid-range. I look at Kobe as the best player who put himself in crazy predicaments (jump shooting wise) & would still make them.
@@JeromeLPitts bro Kobe first step was crazy fast he just lost it a bit quicker due to injuries in the knees. afro Kobe was just blowing by guys who played 2 feet off. he settled for jumpers more I believe like the video suggested because he came out the gate with pure confidence in his jumper.
Kobe:
MJ: "I CAN EAT FASTER THAN YOU"
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It became personal for him :)
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Sounds like my brother and I when we were kids
Kobe:
MJ: *nom nom munch munch*
Watching MJ’s one handed plays is just beautiful
So true, the list of things MJ did that were beautiful on the court is very long
he didn’t favorite this because he hates mj
KOBE = BOAT = Best of all time
Jordan = GOAT - as a result of his physical advantages , jumping , upper body , hands. But Kobe is the most skilled player ever. RIP
@@FlightOftheZeeko there’s nothing Kobe can do that MJ couldn’t but there’s plenty MJ could do that Kobe couldn’t
His grip pressure would put a indentation at each fingertip tip,,,MJ was like a machine
Another big difference between the two was Michael had one of the quickest first steps in NBA history. This allowed him to get to the basket more easily and more frequently than Kobe could.
Yes anime hair Charles Barkley thats correct
Yes! I was just about to comment this
I feel like Jordan’s first step is one of the most underrated aspects of his game
People tend to look at his crazy leaping ability and gloss over the quickness he had to get to those spots in the paint
There’s no proof of Jordan ever being quick..no only his vertical was documented 🤦🏻 Jordan stans I swear 😂😂😂
I've said this for years, the main difference between the two was Jordan had the better body. Naturally stronger, bigger and more durable. It's something their trainer also alluded to when discussing how he trained both guys differently. The reason Kobe took harder shots is he didn't have the same effortless explosiveness MJ had or the vertical. This probably did lead to Kobe's need to work harder than MJ.
Kobe is an inch taller than mike but he is a little more lean than mj
The fact that Kobe had to work harder should not be an argument that he is better than Jordan in that aspect. When you are naturally gifted those that are not have to work harder to even get close to you.
The fact that Kobe worked harder and could not best MJ is a testament to MJ’s natural advantage. But the fact that Kobe was able to approach 85-90% of MJ style is a testament to his determination and greatness on the court. I wish we could have seen them both in their primes against each other.
They both would have killed this era.
Another fact is MJ’s basketball IQ is higher. No offence to Kobe, but MJ knew how to win without trying to hard and risking everything, and also he was a much better passer. That made Jordan play still well in the older age. If Koke had those thing, he could have played till 41 like Dirk
Jordan is in the top 1% athletically in NBA history. Kobe is no scrub athlete though.
You know what you’re saying Vitto!
I only believe Kobe was the harder worker because he was competing (in his own mind) with Jordan. Kobe knew he was playing for Jordan's coach. He knew he was training with Jordan's personal trainer. In his mind, he was competing against Jordan. He knew Phil and Tim would subconsciously compare the two. Jordan was not competing against Kobe. Jordan did what he needed to do to dominate the NBA. He was competing with himself. There was no Kobe pushing him. So it's an unfair comparison.
You are absolutely right, I totally agree, but that mindset of Kobe is the reason he is the 2nd greatest shooting guard ever behind mike..but that mindset also made Kobe the deadly player he was...you can honestly argue that Kobe is a top 5 player off skills alone...other than mike there's no other player who could kill you in so many ways like Kobe could...that mindset of competing with MJ in his own mind actually was the best thing that happened to kobe
@Ugly Nigga Stop it with the Tmac comparisons mans never got past the 1st round.
@@Ichifate never got anyone to help him though
@@khoiluu5800 Yao Ming? Also, you do realize Tim Duncan almost went to the Magic right? But more importantly, Kobe only asked for the Pau Gasol trade.
@@Ichifate keyword almost, and by the time tmac and yao ming teamed up tmac was far past his prime
Their differences pretty much boils down to MJ being born with natural gifts and as well as being more of a natural virtuoso while Kobe had a more undying fire and worked harder than every one else to be were he was at.
Agree
Just like what Kenny always say... MJ was for him the first super athletic guy who is also fundamentally sound..
Nah . Difference is game on line Kobe going to make that three and Jordan going to have to pass it to Steve Kerr or
Craig Hodges.
@@veterannavy304
The man's dead. Get off his jockstrap already.
Sure. Ignore every other time MJ made the game making shot.
Bet the entire population of Utah is gonna disagree with you. Bet they haven't forgotten that shot.
Stop it. Get some help
@@veterannavy304 And passing it to great shooters who are open is the right basketball play to make. The sport is 5 on 5, not 1 on 1. I personally think it's those plays that are a part of Jordan's greatness. All about winning with his incredibly high basketball IQ and not just about the individual accolades.
similarity: they're both on jonny arnett's intro...
They're the only two in motion on Jonny's intro. I don't think that's a coincidence.
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the move Jordan's doing on the intro. idk how many times we saw Kobe do that move lmao
Kobe’s work ethic reminds of Vegeta in DBZ for the simple fact that it can ultimately be a detriment to you wanting to be the best due to pushing yourself too hard.
That's exactly what i've been saying
And somehow is always in Goku/Kakarot’s shadow, which in this case is MJ. It’s a pretty accurate comparison imo
Yeah. Imo put Cr7(Cristiano Ronaldo)up there with Kobe in Work ethic,if u do research u will understand why 😅...
And with Jordan in competitiveness as he his one of (maybe the) greatest champions in soccer and probably the most Clutch.And he always trying to show he's the best at everything he tries so...
Very nice topic 👌🏾💯
@@louis-pg753 Cristiano, Kobe, Goggins and Mayweather take hard work beyond comprehension.
Cristiano in Messi's shadow, Kobe in Jordan's, Mayweather in Ali's. The irony...
@@fcbotieno when it matters the most, I would take ROnaldo over Messi anyday. Messi chokes way more in big moments.
Brilliant video, Looove your work Jonny
Yooooo? I love ur vids!
Glad u commented
The Ball Handling was different too. Kobe had more playground- Kyrie Irving type moves. Kobe's upper body was more twisty as well, which gave him that snake like- Mamba- look as he slithered through defenders.
you are so smart . "Kyrie Irving like moves" is the best way to explain it . I try to tell folks how similar they actually play especially 8 Mamba but they don't get it. lol
Your right, when I look at his dunks he coils his body around like a snake mid-air
Young Jordan was extremely dynamic in the air. The Air nickname isn’t just about jumping from the FT line. It’s about doing things in the air that nobody else did before him and no one has done since.
Definitely agree with kobe being a much better ball handler
Imagine having a bad day at a restaurant working there. And then MJ and Kobe walk in.
At least your tips will be good. If Scottie walked in you weren't getting a damn thing.
rip Kobe 😭
If it were Shaq and Chuck, the restaraunt would have to close early.
@@xaviervega468No tipping Pippen.
@@joeyjo-joshabadu9636true haha. Just imagine the amout of food they gonna order.
I'm imagining Jordan finishing his meal, standing up so fast he knocks over the table then holding up his hands in the air while Kobe looks on like, "Wait, what's happening?"
Kobe knew but realized too late.
What
😂😂
And wearing those 90s baggy suits and pants lmao
I’d imagine the stand up would be explosive and then he’d just Motumbo finger wave him lol
Finally, someone who explains it perfectly. My friend and I have mentioned all these things multiple times for decades, as huge fans of both MJ and Kobe. Great video
Left-handed Kobe was one of the most awesome thing I've witnessed. And I'm not even a Kobe/Lakers fan.
You don’t have to be to appreciate greatness
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I made my oldest daughter and son play all summer with their left hand only for a few years. My son still plays ball and it's hard to tell if he's right or left handed. Even when shooting jumpers. Great skill to learn and Kobe was awesome at it
Most greats have lefts…Bird played almost an entire game with his left 🤣😂✌🏽
@Jason Karl wilt russel Kobe way too high on that list 😂🤣✌🏽
Tim Grover also said that MJ works smart, knows when to push and when to pull, knows his limits. While Kobe works harder, pushing himself beyond his limits.
God forbid MJ dies. But he gone be in heaven tryna find Kobe talkin bout “Phil said he was a harder worker than me. And I took offense to it”
😂😂😂😂
"Thats all I needed"
wtfdym "god forbid MJ dies"😭 yk everyone's gonna die right
@@alexp8785 duh. God forbid I have to spell out I meant in the immediate future.
@@KaYoceeBeats that ain't what u said lmao
To add a few extras: Jordan used a larger variety of moves to score in game, but Kobe had a larger overrall repertoire as he took all MJ's moves and combined it with the evolving NBA, but often would 'settle' for contested jumpers. MJ also utilised an extra step or two to get that tiny bit closer to the basket for his finishes.
Jordan had a quicker first step and played lower to the ground on his drives, leaning in aggressively sideways like a motorbike, but Kobe played more upright. MJ was also often faster rotating on his turnaround jumpers. Overrall MJ played a faster more athletic style and Kobe played a sometimes more measured style midrange and outside shooting game, relying less on his athleticism.
Look dawg Imma just say this. GOATED
Wtf is ur username 😂
On MJ's 3pt %: From 88-89 through the rest of his career, he shot around .350. He actually got better with more attempts.
MJ, like damn near EVERYBODY back then didn't even bother practicing 3's either. It's why the bump in shooting efficiency these days is kind of misleading. If guys like Bird or MJ actually _practiced_ those shots? Jordan only took a little over 2 3's a game.
@@michlo3393 Yeah, there was no three for MJ until after his first year at UNC. Back in the late 70s and early 80s, you were better off spending extra time practicing getting closer to the hoop than attempting shots from 24 feet out. On the other hand, every high school gym in America had a three-point line in the 90s.
Kobe still better shooter from 3 stop it
NBA shortened the 3point line from 94 to 97, don't forget that
@@dsong2006 You beat me to it. I think MJ's 3 point % is a little inflated because of the shorter distance. Both MJ and Kobe were OK 3 point shooters but that great.
Gilbert Arenas said it best on his podcast “Michael is Superman and Kobe is Batman” Kobe had to do more to even be compared
Gilbert is a knucklehead but his comparison of MJ and Kobe is pretty much dead on.
Batman is better though, so…
@@lyricalmike7162 no he's not he's just a human who needs tools and gadgets. yeah he's in top physical shape for a human but super man is an alien so he could squash him if he wanted to. super strength, can fly, and he can shoot lasers from his eyes.
@@cjvaye99 Superman is also infinitely dumber, Batman wins.
@@lyricalmike7162 🤣🤣🤣
Kobe is the MJ of my childhood
I'm happy that I got a chance to see both in their prime.
@@melvinhhcp3615 I did too. No comparison. Jordan was light years ahead of him
@@melvynsngltn27 Yeah, he was. But not by a large amount. Jordan himself admits to this.
Michael Jordan is the Michael Jordan of my childhood. Kobe is the Kobe of my late teens and up.
@@melvynsngltn27 if u think that cool doesn't mean ur correct
As soon as I saw the title I wanted to debate you Jonny. But I can't do it because I 100% agree with everything you said.
😂.. Right
Coolest and most respectful comparison of two legends I’ve ever seen in a video, and MJ/Kobe is one of the harder ones to pull off. Engaging, well-written and fair. Keep at it man you’re one of the best at what you do
MJ was faster: the difference was palpable in their speed at the fastbreak.
I like that you mentioned that people forget how freakishly fast Michael Jordan was
Yes! his speed is often overlooked. It's one of the reasons why he led the league in steals or was in the top 3 in the league.
The closest one ive seen approach prime mj level of fast was a prime wade.
@@lancertheanswer6351 I would also say prime Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook, LeBron James and John Wall
@@lancertheanswer6351 How did you forget Allen Iverson?
You are so intelligent. You just made my day.
Ah thanks! Glad you like the vid :)
For real...and I haven’t even watched it yet
I love this channel. Every time I hear the intro music it makes me want to go outside and pretend I know how to hoop in slow motion.
So blessed to see these two titans in their primes!! Love them both
I absolutely love this channel man, perfect to fall asleep to. Super informative
I feel like one of the biggest differences that you missed was the fact that Jordan was a more vertical presence around the rim, providing similar rim protection to an athletic forward like LeBron. Kobe on the other hand often was flatfooted near the basket and resorted to a swipe-down move.
True, though Johnny probably focused on aspect people didn't know they were different (except physical abilities)
Kobe was doing that rim protection thing in the 2000's bro, chase down blocks & all.
@@melvinhhcp3615 But Jordan is arguably the best guard shot-blocker ever.
@@ReidoFutebol98 DWade is statistically. Jordan would be if he never retired twice.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Yeah, I know that. You're correct. That's why I put the arguably.
Kobe worked extremely hard to make himself like Jordan, but Jordan was naturally Jordan. That's the difference.
Well to be fair. He added some arsenals and make it a little better. Like ball handling and that fadeaway of Kobe was a beauty to watch. Jordan the original and Kobe was the remix.
Jordan had to work just as hard. You can't be great without being obsessed with it.
Jordan drove everyone of his teammates to the brink with his work ethic,obsession to perfection and how he took over practices for Phil Jackson and Phil let him,cause Phil knew Jordan Knew and could drive his teammates to get it done,GREATEST thing Kobe inherited from Jordan besides Phil Jackson was his ability to lead in practices the same way,exactly why him Shaq went at it so much with Kobe even punching Shaq in practice
The work ethic is why Kobe has more rings than Shaq
Agreed. MJ was naturally athletic; Bean had to work at it. Iverson(AI) was the same- naturally athletic, he just needed to condition more and really PRACTICE 😂 and his career would’ve been extremely superior to an already fantastic one.
That's euphoria. It's like that. MJ is a hard worker. And has is own style. Kobe has worked hard, to be near MJ. In every single move. And he still not like MJ, with 5 thousand more hours of training. Easy!
My two favourite players of all time even though Jordan retired before I was even born and I only got to witness Kobe's twilight years.
my guy, we need them uploads, it's LDTV summer
@@Ichifate I finished the script for my Hakeem Olajuwon video and I'm in the process of making my "If the NBA had a playoff MVP series." I'm editing the 2010's vid and I'm researching for the 2000's.
I guess I feel lucky to have witnessed both in their primes.
It was beautiful to witness both of these GOATS as I grew from teen to adulthood
Jordan was a bit more athletic and his movements were always so crisp and controlled, almost mechanical. He had a great knack for being able to get a couple feet of separation to get an open look on his jumpers. Kobe kind of flailed sometimes and looked a lot more casual, he took a lot more difficult contested shots. I think that's the biggest difference in how they appeared on the court.
As a diehard Jordan fan, with Kobe as my second favorite... Great video and completely true. You could have mentioned the years the three point line was moved in closer would have helped raise Jordan's percentage a little closer to Kobe's. I believe MJ had one more season than Kobe in those years. Kobe had one, but was a rookie who didn't get much playing time while Jordan was leading the league in scoring shooting a lot. So that helped him close the gap just a little bit more on that percentage difference. My opinion... The two best 2 guards of all time. I feel the only thing Kobe was better at was, maybe the slightest bit a better dribbler. Kobe was better slightly at free throws, as the percentage shows. And Kobe had a better 3 ball, especially from deep. Jordan's defense was way better, and his bigger hands as you said. And in my opinion as a person that watched hundreds and thousands of games of both, people will disagree... But I feel Jordan had a better jumper. Especially in his championship years. Not 3's, but 2"s. No hate. Love them both. Best 2 guards ever. Just comparing...
respectfully, jordan was not a better defensive player than kobe. although jordan is right after kobe defensively in my book, kobe had 12 all nba defensive 1st teams in a row and he had more competition in the early 2000s than jordan in the late 90s.
watch olympic final 2008. Kobe's defence is there.
1:48 this is such an iconic pic. I didn't even know Magic was in the background lmao
I have that poster and i just realized that was Magic thanks to you! LOL
MJ was a better game manager. He scored more consistently (8, 8, 8, 8) where Kobe was more up and down (2, 12, 4, 16). MJ's teammates were more comfortable knowing what they would get from MJ throughout the game. On the other end, MJ was better at stopping the opposing team's momentum so his team didn't fall prey to the other team's runs as much as Kobe's teams did.
Preach
Yooooo this is the biggest facts i ever seen
The absolute biggest difference to me is college. MJ learned from Dean Smith who modeled a lot of his teaching after the great John Wooden who is probably the greatest coach of all time.
This is the reason Michael took better shots. Nobody ever took a bad shot under Coach Smith.
Yup all of free fundamental skills are taught in college and college basketball coaches are patient in teaching players how to do it the right way. Professional coaches in pro Leagues tends to fast track everything. If a player forgot just one small detail, then his process is in the mess if he join the pro ranks too early.
Agree. It's the reason why Jordan was polished at certain things at a young age and it helped him to play with other players in a team system. Mainly helped him to play off the ball and develop the skills in reference to what that does.
I think it was their upbringing.
Michael grew up with brothers. He had to learn to share. He played multiple team sports, so he fundamentally understood the concept of teamwork. He also wasn't always the best person on the team, so he learned to depend and trust his teammates. Jordan had a fundamental understanding that he needed to rely on teammates in a game and that he could make up the difference.
Kobe grew up isolated as his father was a pro basketball player, which set him apart, then he moved to Italy, which literally made him a foreigner, then he moved back to Philly where he had a different mentality from his classmates since he had already grown up alone and spent all his time playing basketball. He stood out on his high school team as the best player because basketball was the way he created his identity his whole life. Kobe fundamentally was a loner who had little trust for others because of his upbringing.
I think if Kobe had grown up playing with other kids more, he would have been a more willing passer and picked his shots better. He didn't overcome that flaw in his mentality.
Jonny, you are the most criminally undersubscribed channel on RUclips. Great content. Without going into a prime-to-prime statistical comparison, you perfectly compared my two favorite scorers of all time.
RIP, Mamba
Competitiveness, work ethic and dedication are what sets apart the great players from the rest. Players like Jordan and Kobe had far more of it than someone like Shawn Kemp. Someone back in the day described Jordan as being single-mindedly obsessed with winning and that he played the game with a controlled rage. Speaking to his dedication, if I remember my facts correctly there was a time during the Bulls' first 3-peat in which the NBA market had passed Jordan by as a result of the multi-year deal he was playing under at the time and as a result, he had become the 15th highest paid player in the league. Rather than sulking, holding out, demanding a trade or a restructuring of his contract like practically every other player would have done, he honored the deal he signed and played out his contract to the end. That is the type of dedication and integrity you just don't see in professional sports anymore. As a result, the Bulls compensated him for past services rendered in his next contract and made him what I believe was the first $30 million a year player in professional sports history.
Wow! I am a die-hard Kobe fan and I was still fascinated by a lot of the things said here. You are really becoming one of my favorite basketball RUclipsrs nowadays. Keep it up!
Uncut hoops and Johnny upload within an hour
About Kobe's outside shot, he also chose to shot lower percentage shots with defenders right in his face. Jordan picked higher efficient shots which means if Kobe took better efficient shots it would have lead to an even higher FG%. You can say that is a point for or against Kobe but it is what it is. I'm an MJ guy, but I feel like it is something that should be noted.
****edit**** Sorry I see you mention this in the next point, my bad.
Kobe was the greatest data analyst in NBA history, and a top 5 all time athlete in NBA history, coming off a childhood of analyzing the greatest player in NBA history. The fact he targeted hand and forearm workouts to counter (thru literal sheer force) the hand size issue is 🤯
Awesome on point video they both where Great MJ just had a style about his game that seemed effortless. MJ created more space with his shot selection and was more fundamentally sound what a joy to see them 2.
For the left-hand dominance I think they're even, there's a footage of MJ shooting free throws and regular jumpshots with his left hand, it's just that majority of MJ's left-hand scoring are from reverse layups.
True
Jonny, something else that must be accounted for when talking about three point shooting is the three years the nba moved the line closer as mj made nearly half of his total career threes in that stretch. He shot 3.3 per game and made 40.4%. If you look at the rest of his career, it was just about 1.3 attempts per game at 28.8%. His career three pointer numbers greatly benefited from having two full seasons(and part of 94-95) with some of his deep mid range shots counting as threes
Yep, good point. Kobe would have looooved a slightly shorter three point line. The shorter line would have been right in his sweet spot
Nah.. It's more likely on more attempts made MJ more efficient regardless of distance (shortened or not). His >35% in original length 3pt line with at least 2.5 3PA:
Regular Season:
1989-90 3 3APA @38%
1992-93 2.9 3PA @35%
Playoffs:
1992-93 3.8 3PA @39%
@@lamefart I get what you’re saying, but I think there is a reason he only shot more than 2.5 threes per game in two seasons with the regular line, and why he only shot above 32% twice as well. It’s possible he got into a good groove those years and rode the hot hand. Either way, the argument that kobe was a better shooter is pretty clear
@@dereknoble6796 yeah, I agree. Kobe had the range but MJ had the efficiency. But in mid-range shooting, MJ's in a league of his own. Kobe would drop 3s like freethrows if he was hot. In MJ's words, he chose not to shoot 3s. What a troll, he made an NBA record in the finals just to prove a point. 🤣
I miss great men like this playing. Huge MJ fan. So glad Kobe came to be. Sad we lost him too early. Nobody played better than these 2.
From everything that we know about MJ and his priorities, Phil's suggestion that Kobe was a harder worker probably threw him into a fit of rage. There are few things MJ is more proud of than his work ethic and drive.
Before, lots of Jordan fans didn’t like Kobe, but now it seems like if someone likes one then they like the other. They are actually very different players, and playing like Jordan definitely isn’t the only way to be the best. We rarely compare Jordan to others, just others to him and that’s unfair to everyone else because the goat argument became specifically crafted around Jordan’s résumé so that he will always be considered the goat.
You forgot to mention kobes legendary hot streaks. Till this day no other player has scored 50 or more in 4 straight games.
Jordan did it
MJ always seemed significantly faster and more explosive to me...
"Vertical Leap comparisons are a surefire way to get comment section debates"
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Omg thank you for this video. It seriously was night and day body/athletic wise with Kobe and MJ. Love this video, I mean all in all they were both transcending players of their era. Michael a little more but Black mamba will always and forever be my favorite player to watch hands down. Best tough shot maker I’ve ever seen!!! RIP 24
2 other major discrepancies between MJ and Kobe: (1) Kobe was more explosive scoring-wise. This was said earlier in the video but there are numerous examples of Kobe being the more explosive scorer. His 81 point game, the 62 points in 3 Quarters against the Mavericks, the 56 points in 3-Quarters against the Grizzlies, the 51 points in 3 Quarters against the Nuggets, his 12 3s against the Sonics, his 42 points in one half against the Wizards, etc. are among the many examples of Kobe being more explosive as a scorer than MJ.
(2) Jordan liked to bring his A-Game against the best teams. Among MJ's best exploits scoring-wise were his 63 points against the 67-win Celtics (1st in DRtg), his 61 points against the Pistons in 1987 (5th in DRtg), his 59 points against the Pistons in 1988 (3rd in DRtg), his 54 points against the Knicks in 1993 (1st in DRtg), his 55 points against the Knicks in 1995 (1st in DRtg), his 50 points against the Heat in 1997 (1st in DRtg), and his 51 points against the Knicks in 1997 (2nd in DRtg). Let's not forget his exploits against the Suns in 1993 and the numerous 50+ point games he's dropped against the Cavs.
Kobe on the other hand, has scored his highest scoring games against weak teams. His 81 points came against a 27-55 Raptor team (25th in DRtg), his 65 points against the Trailblazers was against a 32-50 team (26th in DRtg), his 61 points against the Knicks was against a 32-50 team (23rd in DRtg), his 60 points against the Grizzlies was against a 22-60 team (30th in DRtg), his 58 points against the Bobcats was against a 33-49 team (20th in DRtg), his 56 points in 3 Quarters against the Grizzlies was against a 23-59 team (20th in DRtg), his 55 points against the Wizards was against a 37-55 team (18th in DRtg), and his 51 points in 3 Quarters against the Nuggets was against a 17-65 team (surprisingly 6th in DRtg though). Even Kobe's Playoff career high against the Suns was against a team who were 16th in DRtg.
MJ was more consistent all around though
@@leokennedy4557 absolutely true. I tend to lump that in to contrast how explosive Kobe could be but I must've forgot.
Thanks for doing a Kobe compared to MJ video instead of the MJ vs LeBron thing we have been forced to put up with for the last decade. I love them both! I have to give the nod to MJ, but Kobe is amazing.
I think the main difference with 3pt shooting is just that Kobe was better at volume shooting, whereas Michael could dominate with midrange/paint shots, and only needing 3pt shots when absolutely necessary.
Great content my man keep up the good works
1.Jordan is graceful and forceful at the same time, kobe is graceful and slippery.
2. Jordan's landing after a dunk or layup is very light, he can bounce right back and run.
3. Jordan is the better defender
LETS GO ANOTHER VIDEO
Can't wait for the Wilt vs Bill Russell video
The shot Selection one Is so on point i didnt now how to explain It, thats the reason mjs supporting cast had to be good because they were gonna get involved but with Kobe if you werent already good you wouldnt get touches.
I feel Jordan was the better shooter inside the 3 point line.
It's not even close. Jordan is probably the best ever midrange shooter in history if you look at efficiency + volume. Dude was automatic and got so much lift on his j it was unguardable.
He was easily. Jordan took a higher volume of midrange shots than pretty much anyone else and still was shooting 50% plus.
@@YangiTheCat yeah highest volume shooter vs one on one only(man to man defense) 😂😂😂 2001 the nba wasn’t a man to man defense anymore
Because of elevation on the midrange fadeaway and MJ had bigger hands.
@@Kingdoscuatro LOL do Kobetards really think no one else watched that era? Kobe was getting TONS of 1v1 isolation in the early 2000's
I think the difference was that Jordan put into good use his God given talent along with being a Freak of Nature as well... While Kobe had to work his ass off to close those gaps resulting in his body gaving up on him.
I just commented in another post that he wore himself out tryna catch the goat.
Only somewhat true.Even an older less athletic Jordan in the 2nd 3 peat years still managed to be more efficient than prime athletic Kobe
I love this damn intro!!! The order and everything blends well. I literally always replay it 4 or 5 times before watching the video. RIP KOBE!!
This is a big brother little brother thing thank you mj and kobe, a fan since 99. Rip Kobe Bryant
Great content as usual.
The biggest difference is how much better Jordan was as a player
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MJ used his teammates better. Kobe became more self reliant, particularly in between the Shaq & Gasol era (when he was playing D-League players & misfits), then after the Gasol era also.
Yeah i agree... but then again kinda hard to rely on Smush Parker, Jordan Farmar and Kwame Brown etc. as your 2-4 options.
@@Seek_Solitude Agreed
80s Jordan was the same way. Their highest scoring years were when neither had good teammates.
@@williambohannon6264 Yup. Solid parallel.
Nah, Mj didn't use his teammates that well until his 7th or 8th year
Jonny! I have a video idea. How about an in-depth look at great but not superstar players who are underappreciated. People like Jeff Hornacek. I'd love to see a documentary on someone like him.
I agree. Especially players from Jordan's era. People has forgotten how great the players were from his era.
This is the best Kobe/Michael comparison video ever
Jonny you make great videos man
My hands are 7 3/4 inches compared to Jordan’s is insignificant lol
Back in my my hands were as big as MJ’s hand.
My hands are 8.2 inches is that big?
@@moukhshiii7220 yeah that's pretty big
@@moukhshiii7220 well above average for a 5'9" male. If you're taller your hands will be bigger, though.
Look it up and you'll see.
@@4j423 I'm 6'3, i guess that's why they don't look that big
That left hand argument for Kobe was bogus. Jordan's left hand was better.
Totally agree. Another thing is some of these people who love making these MJ vs Kobe comparisons always seem to forget it's not like Jordan and Kobe played in parallel universes were one player didn't know the other existed and they had the same playing style. One player saw and copied another players whole playing style and professional demeanor. As a basketball fan, that will always have an impact on where his legacy is.
Larry Bird left was better. Won a whole game playing left .
Great video. First time I have heard of this channel...naturally, I subscribed. Got me hook, line, and sinker with this one
Awesome! Glad to have you on board, Robert!
I miss you a lot Kobe. Was just talking to my mom about all of our Kobe memories in Los Angeles.
💜💛💜💛💜
There's a video of Will Smith talking about Jordan's competitiveness. Someone may have already commented about it. He says something like "You could be getting a drink of water and MJ would be like 'Race ya!' and turn his glass up and start chugging..." LOL I can totally see that. Great video Jonny!
So MJ's hands are bigger than Kawhi's...
Yes. I think that was common knowledge.
Yes they are actually. Kawhi's are not as wide as MJ. MJs hands are wider hence stronger than Kawhis.
Its crazy MJ's hands were bigger than Wilt's as well.
@@Bsk8erzero ...Julius Winfield Erving II's hands are bigger than Michael Jeffrey Jordan and Kawhi Anthony Leonard's. Unfortunately, Kobe Bean Bryant's aren't as big as the aforementioned above.
@@mkhan8527 ...How do you know? Did you ever meet them?
Keep up the great videos 😁👍
Vid is 100% spot-on. MJ's the gifted one while Kobe's just about above average. Ofc as they both developed their similar drive to the game, it boils down to their natural capabilities.
Most underrated nba channel.. Keep up the great work!
The thing I'd add, is that Jordan was a better passer, he's second all time only behind magic in assists per game in a finals series, he's second all time in assists by a SG, and when asked to be a PG for the second half of the season he averaged 10 assists and had 10 triple doubles in 11 games while still averaging 30+ppg. Also if you check his passing highlights you'll see he made some unbelievable passes throughout his career that almost no other player could make.
and guess who’s first in assists for a shooting guard lol... yep kobe bean bryant.
@@pedroramirez0824 it took KB 3 more seasons. Take the L.
@@user-jg6gu87tfcdrtbb HAHA oh wow that’s his fualt completely god forgive he played 3 more seasons 😂😂 thats like discrediting kareem for playing 21 seasons LOL
4:37 there is another key difference, Kobe's % in every aspect of shooting was highly decreased after his aquiles injury
Kobe in his 20yr career:
25 ppg
5.2 reb
4.7 ast
44.7 FG
32.9 3PT
83.7 FT
Kobe without the last 3yrs post achillies:
25.5 ppg
5.3 reb
4.8 ast
45.4 FG
33.6 3PT
83.8 FT
Only slight decrease. But i find it funny that people shit on kobe for being an "inefficient scorer" when he only shot 5% lower than average for a man who consistently took shots while being double teamed, triple teamed, quadruple teamed or having the whole entire team on him.
wrong comparison. you should compare; first 17 years and last three years@@ceciladams4882
I’d argue that Kawhi is more similar to Jordan than Kobe if we are talking purely game play style
Dude are you crazy..Kawhi he is nowhere near MJs or The Mambas game. Not even close
If these are some of the biggest differences; it really shows how much alike they were.
It's awesome that u can keep coming up with these different topics I wonder what you'll think of next great vid!
Can you make a video about how MJ never give up even when he was injured or sick pleaseee
Kobe had a broken limb and made free throws I don't see MJ playing with a broken anything.
2 greatest, 2 clutchest, and 2 most skilled players of all time
Jordan and who else? Bird maybe
@@melvynsngltn27 Kareem, Hakeem, Duncan
Y’all really just aren’t capable of giving Bron his flowers while he’s still here it’s sad.
@@brysenart are u dumb? Bron is great, but he’s not apart of this convo
@@brysenart he’s top 3 and greates athlete of all time at least in basketball
Jordan can do his work in 2 dribbles of what takes Kobe 8-10 dribbles. Jordan was a better athlete and far better defender.
Jordan played an era when the nba only allowed one on one..kobe played an era where zone defense was legal..3 or 4 guys would slide in to help stop the offensive player…even Jordan was against zone defense 😂😂😂
Best legit and respectful comparison. Two legends of the court.
This is one of my favorite videos yet! Thank you!
No one:
MJ: Kobe finished his food before mine. I took offense to that
Already know it is a banger
Can you do a 60s mvp video
You did it again my boy. Another classic.
Thank you sir for that delightful and insightful video comparing two of the bests!
The most clear-cut difference between the both of them is that Kobe has a tendency to force the issue and has a hot and cold tendency that isolates his teammates, whereas Jordan, under Jackson, went on to precisely _not_ do that _and_ somehow, still keep his ice cold competitive edge. Jordan was definitely more of an asshole, so it absolutely baffles me how people rallied around _that_ brand of jerk but when Kobe did it, it just resulted in pushing people away. Maybe it's because Michael went to college and had Dean Smith to steer and channel that energy, but if people can give me a proper read into this, I'd consider myself more educated for it.
you and me both. This is a good analysis. Phil - in his book "Eleven Rings" - attributes it in part to LA's culture being more individualistic and ego-driven which made getting players to listen to his coaching far harder for him. Perhaps that's why Kobe's energy came off as more abrasive in that particular environment.
Do a magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant player debate
Kobe was All NBA Defense 12x, 9x 1st Team. Magic repeatedly got burned in the Finals by the likes of Danny Ainge, Dennis Johnson, and John Paxson. Kobe would never allow that sort of thing to happen... Kobe was also the far superior offensive player. Magic was the ultimate floor general, but his perimeter & outside shooting prowess was limited.
Fr Kobe was way better two way and longevity wise (if HIV counts towards longevity) but Magic is one of the best offensive players ever
@@melvinhhcp3615 he become a good three point shooter at the end of his career. The thing is when bird b Magic joined the league thats when the three point line was introduced. So it’s inevitable to think they’d be amazing shooters but bird was! And Magic wasn’t
@@zzz.tyrone Magic could shoot sometimes, but it wasn't consistent. He didn't go on hot streaks like real shooters do.
@@melvinhhcp3615 yeah I agree magic was the better player, but some may say kobe. I have Kobe 6 all time wbu?
Jordan was a much better playoff performer
Especially in the Finals.
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Great videos. Love your "straight mins", "real mvp's", & my favorite "how good is he". But unless I overlooked him, I haven't seen the "how good was Oscar?" Been an NBA fan since I was 13 (1965). I've seen most of the best to ever suit up...& I truly respect your work. Looking forward to hopefully seeing a Big O video in the near future.