The New DBZ Game Has a HUGE Problem
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The New DBZ game has a huge problem and that problem is the color green. Thats right dragonball super card game fusion world is finally here giving us access to the all new DBZ TCG now digital... but are the green decks really just that overpowered!? Today we take a look at the androids deck and the powerful broly card!
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no way he called it fusion warriors again 🤣
I was about to comment that lol
it seems he got you again
Green decks are a big problem💀💀💀
Green fn 🔊🔊🔊
Fr fr
*Uses green anyways* 😅
Not even green decks. It’s just 8 cost broly lol
Play frieza or coolboi to counter
only doto can make ME (someone who doesn't like card games) want to play a card game bruh
Ay im just a fan!
Doto's unironically the reason I play yugioh now 🤣
@@chibi491 bro jus like me fr
@@DotoDoya Hey doto, when are you going back to breakers? Word on the street is that the new raider is killing it right now! (In a good way)!
@@gabrielgrant8913he streamed breakers I think 2 days ago
Bro got mixed by the Androids.
“I got mixed by the Ah-an-doroids!” -Doto probably
A 3some with those two is WILD! (It's legal as long as they don't touch)
I wasn't expecting me to be so soon on the video, I need to get this game dude
Its really fun if ya got the change for a tcg!
What can you get this game on
@@issaclangford7414I think it's PC only
@@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 I mean... also the actual physical card game.
but this specific version is currently pc only
I honestly don't understand what their thought process was with going first. It's literally the worst. 2nd gets free energy, an extra draw, can actually attack, gets 2 summons or a 2 drop on turn 1, and first gets 4 cards.
Going first can suck, but the way I see it, 2nd needs all the help they can get. When you go first, you will have energy advantage once their free energy is spent (outside of ramping, of course). Going first means you have turn advantage, meaning the opponent can have less turns to play cards than you.
Ideally, when playing first, you play a 1 cost card draw to have 6 cards and not fall behind in card advantage.
My summary;
Going first means you have intangible & permanent value
Going second means you have tangible (albeit temporary) value
I imagine they'll remove the free energy in the future. Everything else about going second is honestly fine, but it's that free energy that pushes it over the edge for me.
first play means you can setup first, considering this plays similar to most bandai tcg, most ramp and tech decks rely on going first to setup their engine which is often a 1-cost card, meanwhile aggresive high power/swarm decks wants to keep attacking and pressure opponents.
Also at the end of the day, going first has turn advantage.
@Alino- Yeah because even if it's temporary, you still get a charge phase at turn 1. That's 2 energy turn 1 with a draw and most leaders drawing when they attack. So now you get I think it looks like 6 cards base, 7th for draw, 8th for leader attack, likely play a better 2 cost card or 2 1s now to draw in a great turn.
Turn 1 is 6, charge the energy, spend a 1 drop, pass on 4.
It's literally possible to get 8 to 4 depending on the draws/plays, while turn 1 starts at 7 life.
Let first turn draw the first turn and I feel like that balances more things out
Broly decks are super spammed but not unbeatable. My experience, you have to either find a rushdown deck, play the resource game or make a board that isn't ruined by the insane removal. Broly and Teen Gohan decks seem to be weak at resource management. If you can force them to waste resources, they become significantly more beatable.
So far, my best strat against it is Frieza decks. Using Frieza from the starter deck you can pump out the 40k beatstick pretty easily. Along with Meta-Cooler, I run 19 in the deck, and using cards to bring you half hp asap.
I've also had small success with Ginyu Force decks but it's more of a rushdown strat and if your opponent gets the Teen Gohan 7 drop before you get your 5-8 attack turn, it's over.
Rushdown is a really nice option! A good frieza deck is real hard for green to play around sometimes!
@@DotoDoya Meta-Cooler is one of the more insane cards for a Frieza deck I've seen, lol. I really do run 19 of them. It's really strong to just have an unkillable 20k beatstick army.
Man a good red is hard to play against and I’m green
@@vaquishers I haven't seen too many reds. I need the starter deck to really get the basic cards
@@CrimsoniteSPThe Big Gete Star allows them to cheat death
Green Ditto is one of the least fun matchups I've ever had the "pleasure" of playing in a card game
Really I kind of like the mirror but yeah it kinda comes down to a who blinks first kinda thing!
My gameplan for fighting greens (usually broly) is to just absolutely rush getting their life down before they get to 8 energy. Bunch of 1-2 cost allies and focus purely on hitting the leader. Ideally you should have him transformed before turn 4, keep a final flash for goku drop energy removal, getting rid of their free draw engine. If they get to 6 or higher energy, it's practically gg, since they usually have a 6 drop double Android in there too. (I use blue decks primarily, vegeta w/35k on your turn w/ < or = 7 cards as a leader is nuts)
Same i run green decks with frieza and it works like a dream. I think a lot of people are still not too good at the game and i get it i was new as well to the game and it took me a long time to figure things out but when you do and you know how to deal with diffrent match ups its really fun and not as toxic !
I'm new and also playing a started deck because why tf is f2p actually free 2 lose. so idk how valid my strategy is. But against Broly I actually wait to attack them at 5 Life.
I usually wait until I have a double strike to take them down to 3 health, and when they transform they will lose another life. And if they do get a Broly on the field I try and have One God kamehameha and Adult gohan and Whis. to just Insta delete.
I’ve tried this as well.. I go frieza deck but most green deck players also run lv 7 Gohan which destroys a card up to lvl 5 on play (which destroys your best frieza card) and they have lvl 6 androids which can destroy 2 cards on play. You’re also almost assured to lose the energy game.
I really can’t see any way that you can win against green decks
@@AaronBrown2015 ive won a lota of times against green decks as frieza even after they summonec their big monsters it is possible they have a lota of weaknessess like they all good cards are high level and they cant defend at all cuz they have a lot of 0 combo power cards and extras which dont combo
@@AaronBrown2015 Also the android cards destroy only cost 3 or below and in my expierience most of the times i alerady have like a cooler or king cold on play when they can play this card so it doesnt affect you and next turn if they play gohan who wipes your whole field you should have game with golden frieza and double strike
Didn't know dbz had a card game. There should be a mechanic like exodia or something where if you have 5 Saiyans and a specific Goku it gives you an op SSG card.
That’s sounds cool maybe even add Beerus with hakai or Goku with the Zeno to summon Zeno
Wait you may be cooking with this one
They did that in dbs masters, so theres a big chance it will be in fusion world down the line
rlly? hows it work exactly@@changedcj007
This guy forgetting about dragon balls, collect all the dragonballs and insta win XD
I think the biggest problem is that going second has so much advantage I think if both players start with 1 energy but player one still can draw that would make it more balance cause if green goes second they just stockpile so quickly.
Sounds familiar. I seem to remember DBS having the same issue early
THAT PROBLEM IS F2P PEOPLE CAN NOT PLAY SINCE THEY GOTTA GRIND 3 MONTHS TO GET CRYSTALS ENOUGH FOR ONE DECK THAT IS NOT STARTER AND IN THE MEANTIME THEY CAN NOT WIN ANY MATCH MAYBE A FEW IF LUCKY
TCG moment
It's not meant to be f2p dawg, it's a tcg. You want cards, fork over cash, that's how it works.
It's par for the course at this point. In the first ever set for the physical card game a couple years ago green androids were DISGUSTING with the cell SCR, history repeats!!
I actually haven't felt the green decks have a huge advantage, I'm a frieza player and you currently have 2 ways to beat a green deck user. Either you high aggro and high tempo to kill them just before they can play their broly or you put in a bunch of blockers until they play broly to then perma control it with golden frieza.
Beerus on the other hand is much more problematic for my deck in particular, all the combo power reductions make it so painful to play against.
Yeah high aggro is a great strat against green!
Oh man, I'm a Cooler main and red in general is just painful for me.
This strategy doesn’t work when they play lv 6 androids which destroys 2 of your lower level cards and teen Gohan lv 7. Plus, they’re almost guaranteed to beat you in the energy and number of cards game.
I have 80 matches played and most of my losses come against green decks
Yeah i keep getting nothing but green decks with that 8 cost Broly and that Family kamehameha gohan which are just instant GG the moment they are out lol it kind of ruins the fun for me because 90% of the players i get use that deck
What kind of deck do you run? Most colors have options for green, and they usually consist of crippling their 5 drop Goku and bum-rushing them so they lose before they hit their turning point at 7 or 8 energy.
I’m right there with you. All I come across are green decks and once they get the double androids out at level 6, I’m pretty much cooked. (I run frieza deck)
Honestly as a green player (My deck is still ass cause I’m not paying real money for this game) the best way to cripple us, especially Broly green players, is with Criticals. It forces us to either spend the resources in our hands or throw away the life draws that we rely on
@@christianodom4857 you’re right, since I’m going up against mostly greens I’ll see if I can get lucky with some critical yellows for my frieza deck
@@AaronBrown2015 Yeah if you can get a strong critical card out while we’re still trying to build energy you can cripple a lot of our game plan
You know what really bothers me about game like this? How hard would it have been to make a falling down animation? or just have them swap to laying on the ground before the smoke clears from your attack? It would have been a nice touch, and give you a better sense that you defeated your opponent.
icl green broly is a B tier leader. They are carried by the green package and even then the leader is ass. No draw when attacking on leader side (unless you pop an energy) and you crit a life when transforming. Just double strike a broly at 5 life and their life is in shambles
I’ll try this. What does icl mean?
@@AaronBrown2015 "I cant lie"
I think green itself is just a balance problem. It has it own counter like Yellow Ginyu deck fast enough to finish the game even before 7 Energy turn.
Real problem is opening pack is just super hard to making deck F2P. Or make second deck without spend too much money. That make everyone build TOP meta deck which is green and it feel like only green color on ladder. It might just me, but I left my green Gohan and go on ladder with Ginyu rush just because when I match any Green auto win.
I played a ginyu deck and it was disgusting the strategy he used against me. I was actually really impressed while I lost 😂
Why we dropping a thumbnail of Goku taking backshots.
I'm a noob but I've been fighting against others with higher levels, and fighting against Green have been the toughest and longest matches but if you run a red deck with debuff's and God Kamehameha you can pretty much just delete their tougher cards like Turles and Broly.
I think yellow deck is stronger than green honestly.
Golden frieza being low cost, able to double strike with good attack, and lock a card out for a turn, and being unattackable if freizas leader skills used to take them out of rest end of turns pretty hard lockdown.
That said dont get me wrong, the broly boss monster is wild. You just gotta rushdown hard, fill your board with lots of lower cost stuff to bully them and make them waste as many resources as possible before they get their engine fully going.
They're kind of interchangeable, I feel like green is better overall but yellow beats the fuck out of green specifically.
@ssjbread2803
That makes sense!
I briefly played green then switched to a red deck and stuck with it, because I find it more fun to play even if it's not necessarily better.
With red deck I struggle more against yellow than green, but neithers unbeatable. Makes sense green might struggle more against yellow.
Only deck that seems underrepped just on my personal experience is blue.
I barely ever see it, and most of the time they seem to not really know what they're doing with it. I've played one Zamasu who was fully taking advantage of leader skill and the less than 7 card effects and was seemingly playing optimally and I still beat him.
Everyone else I've played against who had blue was just bumbling through playing random cards unable to use their effects.
Not to say blue deck is bad on paper necessarily, people just seem to struggle to grasp it.
I use this strat and I still have a very hard time beating green decks. The games are always close, I try to get to my lvl 4 as quickly as possible but the double Android lv 6 and teen Gohan lv 7 and Broly lv 8 is almost impossible to stop
@@AaronBrown2015 tbh? I don't think worrying about the 4 cost is necessary. It doesn't really help you much, your fourth turn against green is better spent playing lower cost units to swarm the field. Also, unless you can finish them or deal a significant blow right away, save your big cards for AFTER they drop a broly or Gohan.
Why goku getting back shots in the thumbnail 💀
Like in nuzlock
Bro so I'm not the only one seeing that in the thumbnail..💀
FEAR THE GREEN! coming from Magic The Gathering, I always ran either solid green or green and black and every time I'd play people would be mad (but not really mad, it was more of a meme before memes) because they'd get really powerful after awhile with +1/+1 and trample throughout the deck
“He’s right behind me isn’t he” ahh thumbnail 😭
Even as a green player (broly starter deck) I hate green player's
Well yeah, the mirror fucking sucks to play.
Why not try a different color deck
As some one who plays MTG, YuGiOh, Hearthstone, and Pokémon TCG. This game is incredibly unique. Card economy is super important, it always it but this game seems to emphasize it. Hand advantage is gigantic considering every card is playable just like in yugioh, and colors do certain things just like in magic, some creatures are useless for attacking just to search out things for certain decks like Pokémon. The thing this game has unique to it is ANY CARD can be Mana, and the combo system is super complex and hard to get your head around
RIP AKIRA respect to the legend and may he rest in peace
It's a fun game, for me the biggest problem is that I had never heard of it until Doto started posting videos of it. That and the gems ratio for free players being quite abyssmal makes me a bit worried for its longevity (yugioh cross duels quick shut down has made me a bit paranoid for new card games). But hopefully it stick around ^^
Also hey the tips against Broly worked, full rush and ignore any and all blockers and just pray he dies before 8.
Doto, the game tells you if you're going 1st/2nd on the reroll screen
I think Yellow has more potential, but Green is strong. I don't think it needs nerfs or bans, the other colors just need better cards. Just my opinion tho. It aint always easy being Green.
Yeah the other hands need some more development or cards for em I run yellow and it’s fun saving up gems for a 10 pack tho
12:20 “I guess I don’t have a response”
Literally has 2 super blockers in hand
Honestly my strat against green decks is just play aggressive and try to knock them down to low life before they can rack up energy and force them into a position that makes them feel like they have to play defensivly to get them to waste cards and energy and it's been working wonders.
I thought you were taking a break from the BT2 to give a statement about Toriyama.
“I’m getting cooked by the ahhnrdriods”-Opponents 😂😂😂
I keep forgetting how big Broly is.
Huh. I'm actually trying to learn this game from you. Makes me wanna play it, but I'm also not good at strategy for card games.
Please keep making these, I'm actually fascinated.
It's pretty solid! Only complaint I have currently is that it is... not remotely free to play friendly. Like you'll be lucky to get 1 free booster pack a week, if that. But for $60 you get 60 packs, which gets you playsets of like, every common and uncommon, as well as most rares, and some super rares. Honestly good value compared to games like Hearthstone.
But yeah, I do hope they make the game more free to play friendly. I think you should be able to get like a free pack a day, cause even at that rate it'd take 2 months to get as many packs as just spending $60 gets you.
@@Alino- Oh I see… that’s quite the turn off, but it’s still an interesting game. I guess I’ll just stick to observing.
Green decks are a problem*Doto playing a green deck* man I feel betrayed 😂😂😂
Green is a huge problem, I don't think I've won a single match vs them despite having them at 1 for multiple turns. Another problem is how damn hard it is to get more cards. Why is every single quest only giving me 10 gems? How tf am I supposed to make any new deck unless I whale?
Green definitely needs a B&R hit ngl. Its so dominant and Blue and Red are pretty much left in the dust, Blue is close to unplayable in this meta.
Yeah, just watching is a card game, i can say i wouldnt play it even if they pay me.
But i respect the people who like it.
Just like the other card game Masters, you can't escape green, ever.
I see everyone hating on green, but as a Green Main, the only thing that could possibly be worse than it, is Yellow. As long as you keep green on the back foot, you’ll win. Especially with Blue Goku Black (the absolute worse), and Crit City+Damage Red. Yellow is heavily control centered, but I haven’t had much interaction with them except in private matches
What was your secret to getting to be able to download this?! I've been trying to download it for the past few hours but it seems that their website is REALLY buggy and keeps crashing/ not loading pages properly D: I JUST WANNA PLAY! Love all your content, been watching for a couple years now!
Buddy.... If you want a epic DragonBall game.... I don't understand how you didn't check out esf-multiverse aka Bandit esf mega pack
I have no idea whats going on in this game but I enjoy the background noise of the gears in Doto's brain just whirring agressively.
Yeah if there's any complaint I've heard about this game it's the color green and definitely not the lack of f2p friendly currency
I wasn’t even hyped for it bc I knew they’d make it hard asf to earn currency. I miss when you had to grind to get stuff in games rather than paying. Honestly would prefer that the game costs money rather than having micro transactions. Or if the paid options were limited to skins/cosmetics.
ive been playing yellow freiza starter, sometimes using a cooler leader. and i feel like its the hardest deck to play. So much risk for the same level of reward as other decks where they dont have anywhere near the same risk. Also cooler starter and awakened skill feel like butt compared to frieza awakened
Damn they must have changed the game a bunch I remember playing the game when the beta was out and frieza deck was easily the most broken deck. I haven't played the game since but it looks like they may have nerfed him then.
@@luismorales865the beta and the full release are actually two different card games, Fusion World is CONSIDERABLY different than Masters.
Try playing Blue Vegeta if you want hard lmao xD
I've been wanting a DBS Card Game online game for a long time, but I've waited so long, that Im not even excited about it.... this is weird.
Green really isnt a huge deal from what I've seen. Yeah, its arguably the best color in the format, but yellow is also incredibly strong, and it's not like it completely blows its competitors out of the water. They have REALLY explosive cards, but they have a hard time building their field presence and maintaining card advantage until they get enough energy to actually use those cards, and thus are very vulnerable to board control and rushdown tactics. They are really strong, but theyre not ridiculous to beat. Each color has at least one deck that can beat them, and anything not blue has multiple ways to go about it.
First bro HATES 16! Doto got cell himself on the other end!
The real problem is my wallet not being big enough
Truly the only consistent trait in all card games!
I play yellow Frieza, but now Doto making me want to mimic this Android deck lol. Need that deck breakdown lol.
Gotta start having 1v1s on the channel between the three idiots and whatever decks they can conjure up
This is why I only play Yellow. I fully accept i lose if I dont beat them to energy 7-8 but fuck green. Also as a quick edit. Doto before anything it's almost always better to attack with your leader in case you draw the out.
Doto in 2026
"This game may be only a couple years old-"
Akira toriyama dragon ball creator has passed away r.i.p
Green decks in MTG are also wild ngl 💀
androids are 100% the best bet, by the time you awaken you should already have 6 energy ready to start pressuring
So from what i get,
Green counters Blue
Blue counters red
Red counters yellow
Yellow counters Green
And Goku Black counters everything
I suck at this . Played like 10 games and won 2 . One of them being a forfeit
I don't mind green cuz I'm a MTG player I wish it was more F2P friendly
Been trying to play this game but it hasn’t been working. Everytime I press “Click to Start” it tells me “Please start the Launcher” and just don’t know to get it work. Anyone have this issue or have a solution. Really wanna play this game.
I was NOT expecting the models to look that good in this game
i have absolutely no idea what was going on at all but this game looks pretty sick
Green is always annoying in magic too wonder if it was a inspiration
First guy went through so much to take out the 16, and you pulled another 😂😂
When every game goes 20 minutes and maxes energy of course the deck with the biggest cards and ramp is going to win. There's no way to win early in the game right now which is weird.
It’s only the first set, there’s always the starter meta. The other decks will get more support I already know it
The fusion warriors thing has to be a bit now
Can we talk about how goku is getting railed by dbz Broly’s huge problem
The only problem with the game is it is not F2P friendly at all
Nope it really isnt lmao! Hopefully with the physical product the scan codes at least will go for cheap!
this game is fun but i dont see green as the biggest issue matchmaking on the other hand...i mean im level 3 and i have not gone against a single person that is below level 25 and it very much shows in the cards
I'm staying strong with my orange deck 😭 Frieza will prevail one day 😂
So I watched doto (one of my favorite RUclipsrs) and I thought you know green decks can’t be that bad I have played for 3 hrs and have played non stop green decks and lost every time.
You might even say that Doto got "mixed by the androids".
- Rhymestyle 2023
The graphics are giving me Burst Limit vibes. I love that...
Disappointed suppose to be a huge dragon ball fan but hasn't made a video paying his respects to the goat Akira
My Frieza list has been cooking green players at my locals😂😂
1 hour earlier than the usual Dotodoya upload schedule? 🤯
I try to upload at 5 est on occasion but you are right 6 is my classic!
Doto streaming this game once was enough for me to download and play. Am I trash? Yes. But it’s a good time
#8 rollback on the 5 Doto!!! I'm still waiting
I know you like palworld they have new pals, new bass creation, open servers, raid bosses, and a pal arena. All of this is scheduled to come out in the next 2 months
1:25 "swing on me swing on me, make my day!" Bros having a lil much too fun💀
The Three Idiots and most Folks: "Green is so terrifying in this game! OP!!"
Me after only one other Match: **Uses Vegeta with a agressive Mid-Range and rug-pulling blue strat to floor it** "Yeah you guys should play against a real terror like Green in Digimon. Or Magic. This is nothing."
I'll take things that didn't happen for $1000, alex
Broo, I just got the game and its super fun, but the green deck is so broken.... They need to nerf that asap
I can’t lie though why was I a bronze 3 being matched with plat/diamond
Yo!! You gotta see the newest busted deck man 🎉 this gohan is crazy
Frieza decks and rushdown in general beat green decks pretty badly, same with red u7 deck
why did the game's playerbase saw green as the op as the game releases
Goku getting legendary backshots in the thumbnail
im sad doto didn't say how badly he got "Mixed by the androids"
just like any typical card game people will find good strats on the internet then just copy it instead of thinking of their own and its so sad to see that brain power doesnt exist anymore and instead were stuck with copycats
If you want versatility go play Frieza, it fucking STOMPS green.
just like the rl card game green as always been too strong with every set, the old Saiyan deck was busted as hell with all the combo's that you can pull off and summon a load of characters on the board in one turn, the Cell/androids deck was stupid how ever i don't know what it's like now though lmao.
I think the biggest problem is the f2p aspect is a joke. The gems you get for playing are so pitiful it makes duel links seem generous. And even if you pay you don't get much stuff. The game is clearly meant to cater to physical players who buy packs because you can get codes from IRL packs to exchange in the game since I imagine only gigantic whales or people who buy booster boxes are the only ones able to have anything decent in the game.
That first broly got mixed by the Androids
I thought this was breakers 😭 I didn’t read the “new”
I got some breakers vids coming out really soon!
@@DotoDoya yessiirrrrr 🔥🔥
Is this the dragon ball card game but online? Oh man just wait until people see Shadow Dragon decks
This is fusion world, it's not the same as masters (although I'm willing to bet SD will be just as broken when it gets a deck there)
the deck looks so fun to play can u share the deck code to try it out?
So what I'm hearing is... Doto is going to build a green deck and fld Deion and Dino with it? xD