Paul, as a state police in Puerto Rico, I must tell you that I really enjoy your videos. The professionalism, dedication and empirical data are impressive. I know we are many who value what you do!
One more reason for having a revolver instead of an autoloader. My elderly mother can no longer pull the slide back on her pistols. She lacks grip strength to pull it back to load, unload, or clear any malfunctions. She bought the LCR and been shooting it over last few months without any complaints. She loves the LCR and has said she feels more comfortable with it in her pocket or purse. Noticed a manufacturer recently released a new pistol that is "easier" to pull the slide back and they're marketing it to those with reduced grip strength & arthritis
Which LCR does your Mom own? My Mom has hand strength issues as well, but recently was able to easily pull the trigger on the 9mm LCR, and is thinking of getting it.
C Nemeth: It's not the trigger pull, it's racking the slide. Many females have trouble racking slides. I finally learned a method for doing it (basically push with my arm & body), but they are still difficult for me. With some revolvers, after shooting awhile the trigger gets hard to pull, but it's no problem to use both index fingers for that if you need to.
@@christophernemeth421 she bought the 22LR version first but then bought the 9mm after she shot her friends LCR 9mm. She likes it, can shoot it well enough for her skill level, & likes the moon clips. She did have a 38SPL years ago but never liked speed loaders.
Revolver vs auto loading pistol: my full size CZ P09 is very reliable, no malfunctions at all. My small Ruger LCP II spent most of its life being repaired. First, live rounds were jammed into the ejection port every dozend shots, then the magazines kept falling out every couple of shots, now there's double feeds ever dozend shots and the warranty has expired. Not to mention that I cannot shoot decent groups with it and the aim is way off. My 30+ year old all-steel Taurus .38 snub nose just works and I can hit what I'm aiming at quite well. It sometimes had light primer strikes. Turns out the previous owner shortened the hammer spring too much. Being a revolver this did not cause a jam, you just have to pull the trigger a couple more times. With a new hammer spring it now fires every time I pull the trigger. Based on my expirience, I rather have a small revolver than a small autoloading pistol. The revolver may be thicker, heavier and have less amo capacity, but it works reliably and I can shoot it well.
Paul, because of your long presentation last week I was able to have a good coherent knowledgeable conversation with a customer about 38 special +p and the LCR. I thank you VERY much.
Normally when Paul says please bear with gunfire you hear in the background I'm like year whatever, until he started shooting the first time this video, I think I went deaf with my headphones in lol
Paul I must say, as a follower of your channel I sure do get the best of the best from your vidios. A part 2 on the LCR & crimp jump. U sure do things 110 percent. I thank u very much. These videos helped me personally.
Just finished my day of driving and happy to catch up on a couple of your videos. Been on the road for about a month and have about a month left before heading home. Will always give your videos a thumbs up, even before watching it. Have a good day
I have both for CCW use, however my LCR is in 327 Federal Magnum. The 327 is a six shot with plenty of power and the hammerless feature not only reduces snags it also allows repeated shots (all six) from inside coat pocket, (if one was forced to do so). Thanks for your videos, they are very informative and entertaining.
Mr. Harrell, I've now been watching your videos for a while. I really appreciate your almost scientific approach to your analogies. I love the fact that you are more about the actual data than just your "feels." Keep doing the great job that you are doing sir, your videos are very helpful and informative.
Awesome episode and thanks for the knowledge Paul. I carry my Dads LCR 38 special for an backup gun. I love the trigger on it and i would trust it with my life.
5:10 Rock and Roll! Another great video. BTW In the 80s I purchased a Ruger Speed Six .357 Magnum revolver. I took it to the range. After the first shot it totally locked up. The problem was that the Remington ammo had a manufacture defect. A divot (with protruding boundary) at the base of the case produced a blockage of the revolving action. A lesson that any firearm's functioning is dependent upon the ammo used.
For me I just love how simple and comfortable the LCR is to carry around and use. I also feel very safe with it in my pocket where I would definitely need a holster for an auto.
I’m confused by your comment. I carry many LCR sized autos in my front pocket. I have a s&w 638, a 642 in 22 wmr, yes, both revolvers, but also carry a Springfield armory in 380, a Kimber micro 9 in 9 mm, a Beretta Tomcat in 32 auto, a 22 lr pistol, sorry, can’t thing of the brand, but i have even pocket carried my s&w shield’s in both 9 mm & 45 acp and even my Glock 32 in 357 sig and my Taurus G2 & G3 with the 15 round magazine. I mostly wear cargo pants and shorts, but when necessary i wear a suit. If you have a good pocket holster you can carry every one of these guns i have mentioned in your front pocket. Matter of fact, i use the same holster to carry every one of the the guns in my front pocket. Since i started pocket carrying about 5 years ago it eliminated my need to wear a waist holster 90 to 95 % off the time.
I get more knowledge out of your videos than I do from any other RUclips gun channel. Thank you for the knowledge and perspective, and thank you for your service.
I love what ruger has been doing the last few years. The LC9s was a great example of the company responding to the market’s complaints, and reacting to them.
Paul glad to see you back. In my 25 years in law enforcement I have used several off duty firearms. Mostly using a Colt Officer's model in 45 of course but depending on the need I have used a Sig Stainless 380 or one of my varied models of S&W .38 J frames. Civilians who chose to carry a semi are usually at a disadvantage as the simply do not practice, something them must do for that type of firearm. God Bless America
@@sarahwatson7692 You are so right. Funny though I have trained a number of even older people, they take one or two sessions and even when I offer my time freely for practice they seem to think one lesson enough.. The old joke when the man in NY stops and asks a policeman how to get to Carnegie Hall, the officer said "Practice my friend Practice!"
Dana Terlecky I work in retail gun sales. Every day I hear how someone knows how to shoot since they “grew up around guns” or have “been around guns all my life”. These folks have no idea what skill is. All of them feel just owning firearms and shooting 50 rounds a year makes them “skilled”.
Paul, I'd love to see a presentation on .327 Federal, there's an LCR chambered in it. It's supposed to give ballistic performance in the same league as .357 Mag, while giving you 6 rounds, in what would otherwise be a 5 round revolver. I'd love to see what it actually does to a meat target, compared to .357 Magnum.
Yeah that would be a awesome review but I think Paul has put it off because of all the hype. Sometimes the reviews that reveal something isn't really quite what people think it is aren't always well received. Personally I think of the 327 Federal as a highly practical trail gun and varmint cartridge especially if you hand load semi jacketed hollow points meant for 32 S&W long or 32 H&R Magnum. But this would be a dismal review since there isn't any factory loads offered for this application that I'm aware of and most of the guns in production for 327 federal have barrels under 3 inches and guns with barrels over 3 inches in this caliber are somewhat rare oddities. As for personal protection I think it really closely mimics 9mm luger +p but with more penetration which could be interpreted as good or bad depending on intended use. 327 federal seems to actually out perform standard pressure 9mm for ballistic performance a little and that might be were federal gets off comparing it to 357 mag. As for the claims regarding comparisons to 357 Magnum I think this definitely needs to be debunked. Another issue I've had with 327 federal is almost every offering on the market is hyper ammo as Paul Harrell would call it. So it would be a expensive top dollar review.
Well that is one of the three constants that effect ballistics, so yeah I think it counts. You'd really impress me if you showed how all .38+P loads improved on the .327.
I have a lot of auto loaders, bought the LCR9mm when it first came out and a ton of ammo down range. I shoot auto loaders very well. Many Micro 9mm's. BUT, The LCR is the most fun gun I have ever shot. I love shooting it. Points so well for fast point and shoot. As Hickok45 say's about Subbies "There is just something about them". Yep, something special about them. They are honest, solid. True. And if you cannot hit the bad guyon a couple or rounds. then you are most likely dead anyway. Total BS about having a high Capacity firearm or need for a super light Crisp trigger etc. Focus on the first round fired, Not the last rounds of a 10 plus round magazine. Yea, you might get a chance at a second shot, But don't press your luck.
Wonderful video. Love the format and in depth discussion followed by real world demonstration. Your other content is great, but this is a cut above. Your team as presenters are getting better and better.
mr. Paul thank you for all the videos well-thought-out and very informative keep up the great work always keeping us informed whether we like it or not shoot well buddy
Revolvers are more likely to function properly after sitting in a drawer for a long time, and they don't require as much hand strength to load or chamber a round.
I agree. My wife won't shoot an auto loader because she's scared it will go off chambering a round. Yes her problem yet a problem so she likes revolvers
@@Bob5mith And my aunt can rack a pistol slide fine but couldn't pull the DA trigger on a newer Smith 686. A revolver is not automatically the better weak grip/arthritis option, different pistols require different amounts of force, whereas most revolvers are 10+ lbs on the low end for trigger pull. The 380EZ as previously mentioned can be racked with a pinky and has both an optional manual thumb safety and a grip safety, I think that's a great combo for a new shooter/conceal carrier that lacks grip strength and wants an extra safe gun if revolvers have too heavy a trigger. There is no absolute "ideal" option, defaulting to the normal choice doesn't work great for everyone.
Some experienced people may choose a revolver for concealed carry because even with experienced shooters, negligent discharges still happen more often than guns are presented for personal defense. Further, the great majority of the time when a gun is presented, the situation is resolved in five shots or less. So, for those people, they have greatly mitigated the chance for a negligent discharge (as experienced as they are), while still having enough capacity for the vast majority of situations. For situations where a higher capacity makes the carrier more comfortable, or is more preferable, but they still want to mitigate risk and have the skills to shoot DA/SA accurately, guns like the Beretta 92fs Compact or the Beretta PX4 Storm compact can be considered. Just my thoughts.
Paul, please keep doing what you are doing. Super appreciate all the work that goes into bringing us these entertaining informational videos. Also, don't change. Your unique style sets you apart from the rest. Thank you, again.
The only addendum to your list of reasons for carrying a revolver as opposed to an autoloader: My mother has severe arthritis, specifically in the thumbs. This makes racking the action of anything more than a .22lr nearly impossible (just unable to place sufficient thumb pressure to hold the slide, even when using multiple grip techniques). Admittedly, this is a fairly specialized situation. She sends her thanks for several of your videos, that more concisely and reasonably explain concepts that I was having difficulty conveying to her. Thanks from me, too! Good Luck and keep up the great videos!
Absolutely. Some people, especially women, have great difficulty racking a slide. I can do it, but it's not easy, and that took lots of practice and using a different racking technique.
It does you great credit to be able to present the pros as cons without injecting opinion into it. What I see is a presentation by someone who tries hard to be fair and present all the arguments as best as he is able. That is greatly appreciated.
Paul: With respect to capacity I ran out of ammo, after reloading my department issued six shot Colt Det. Spl. (total of 12 rounds) in the midst of a gunfight in 1974, and had to end the fight w/a blackjack. I was never without a sufficient supply of ammo again and was glad for the change to the auto loader later in my career.
It's been thirty years since I was ten too! 😁 I like this LC9 so much I take it everywhere. I've done the five shot hammerless revolver thing and the LC9 blows it away!! Best pocket gun ever!!! Thank You for the well done videos Sir!!!
It's quite interesting, real people enter a simulation of actions that happen rarely in real life with little data, and perform those actions every thirty seconds comparing scores and data constantly. Only real issues are in the nature of reality, people react to pain, and everyone has last stand perk.
Ahh that imaginary, wonderful world where you know before the fight begins exactly how many rounds to what part of the body will disable your adversary.
@@moritamikamikara3879 in those games with the perk if shot you fall over but can still shoot back with your pistol, many times people will do this, that's why police appear to over shoot. Just because you were shot and in pain doesnt mean you cant shoot back. Bad joke I guess
Oh and before I forget, happy 200,000! I was clicking that frequently asked questions video my email warned me about but you guys took it down. Looking forward to watching it later.
Paul - One element of this outstanding video discussed revolvers versus autoloaders (in general). Well I’m 72, but I am NOT the older guy you described who distrusts contemporary, top quality semiautomatics (although I continue to enjoy and to have great confidence in my revolvers, as well). I mention this only because I’ll soon add one more reason to opt for an excellent revolver and I don’t want anyone who reads this to believe it’s because I’m anti-autoloader. The “pro revolver” reason you didn’t mention is NEGLECT. It’s axiomatic that no one should own a firearm and not practice with it, not thoroughly understand how it operates, not appreciate how to use it safely, and not maintain it. With this said, however, many people purchase a handgun for home protection and almost never practice with it or properly maintain it. Of course, this is wrong, but it is also common. All things being equal, the Model 10 Smith that has sat unattended in the nightstand for fifteen or twenty-five years is, in my opinion, a good deal more likely to fire six rounds than (for example) is the Browning Hi Power that has been treated with equal negligence (magazine springs, dead dry rails, and so forth).
What your wrote it true, but also human skills degrade even more quickly than mechanical things. This makes revolvers even more suitable for people who would neglect a firearm for many years.
I think Craig Benz is referring to accuracy, shot placement ,muscle memory, house clearance tactics etc, etc ....the type of skills that can fade/degrade with time....even manual dexterity can fade with time so you might not forget how to use the weapon but. be unable to use it effectively where as a point & shoot revolver will reduce some of the problems that occur with time/neglect.
I inherited a 38 S&W revolver from my uncle. (Historical note - the 38 Special is a "magnum" round. Yes. Really.) It was so gunked up that the cylinder was fairly badly out of time. But, although enough lead came out the side to be annoying, it still shot. I personally don't have a strong opinion. I have a strong affection for the 1911 because I was four years into my Coast Guard career before I even managed to learn to shoot it.
I like as Paul mantain the voice pitch during the shooting at the background and keep the video rolling :) lol I enjoy a lot the way he deliveries and scripts the videos, makes easier to absorb the information. Great channel!
Wow!... sounds like a "mad minute" there Paul. Thanks for the second version. The side arm that I carry has to do with where I am going and what I intend to do...daily carry vs. the woods. I generally carry a Charter Arms .22 mag or an M&P 9. In the woods, a 44 Mag.
Great presentation as always. Excellent points on mechanics, handling, and crimp jump. Years ago when i was still in LE, i went from carrying my SP-101 off duty, to my Kahr P9. Weight was the main factor, but 3 more rounds didn't hurt. Working and living in a town of 5000 meant that i was more likely to get involved in something off duty. As it turns out, i had to assist another officer on my way home at about 0300 pne night, around the corner from my house. Had to draw down and cover a suspect with the SP-101 until we got him detained. Capacity is secondary, but it can be an issue, which was the other factor in the switch. Again, the likelihood of getting involved in something made capacity a little more of a factor. But i still went with a single stack. I got fond of a Glock 30 my last few years, but it is bulkier and wider. FWIW, my summertime carry, usually in shorts and a polo shirt, was my Taurus 850 (S&W 642 clone, more or less) in a good pocket holster. I never liked the untucked shirt look very much, so that was my warm weather solution. Anyway, great to see how the channel has grown. Keep up the great content
Said this on another vid, Paul (and Roy), it's great to go back and watch your various vids, useful too, but it feels weird at the same time. I guess we assumed you were going to push through stick around for much longer.
Appreciate your in depth analysis videos that address all these various assumptions and data that helps people make better decisions and know their firearm.
You made a video about the .32 caliber, mainly talking about older .32 pistols. Kel-tec makes a P-32 pistol which is considered pretty highly for a budget, concealable .32, Love to hear your opinion on it.
Tac I used to carry my NAA .22 Mag revolver without a holster and pocket lint actually jammed it. So although it’s tiny, I’ve actually witnessed a revolver failing. I’ve never had that problem again since I’ve bought a pocket holster.
I’ve seen two revolver malfunctions. The hand that turns the cylinder broke on my mom’s s&w 638, and a primer backed out and jammed an old .357 I had. Seen plenty of semi autos jam too.
I have seen far more "user caused" malfunctions with semi-autos as compared to revolvers. I've seen mechanical malfunctions with both. The revolver malfunctions took the firearm completely out of service. The semi-autos simply needed the improperly fed cartridge removed and the firearm reloaded. In my experience, the revolver malfunctions have been more catastrophic in nature.
I've had plenty of malfunctions with revolvers. Pull the trigger and the cylinder and hammer lock midway into place. I've had struggles closing and opening the cylinder. These were new Smith and Wesson's and new Rugers. Maybe they don't make them like they used to 40 years ago.
Another reason to carry a revolver vs autoloader was covered by Paul in the episode where he shot both from a coat pocket. The autoloader jammed after 1 or 2 rounds, the revolver never even hiccuped.
My smallest 9mm auto is a G43 vs the LC9 and my 9mm snubbie is an SP 101 vs the LCR. For me personally they are both good fits for my concealed carry rotation. The G43 is sometimes the only gun I'm carrying while the SP 101 is almost exclusively carried as a bug. They are both great platforms for the 9mm in my book and I wouldn't want to be without either but if I had to choose one the snubbie is just more versatile.
I love my LC9S. The trigger is much better then the original LC9. It's the perfect CCW pistol for me. Plus they have additional mags you can buy with 9 round capacity.
Autoloader is faster to reload, however, if you were on your last round in the LC9, you would have to load mag, then rack the slide to put one in the chamber which would be a little slower. Love your videos Paul!
You don't have to rack the slide, just disengage the slide lock. Add a 1/4 second to the time if necessary. Also, if you keep track of the rounds you've fired you can reload with the last round in the chamber. Of course, in an actual life or death situation it's pretty difficult to count your shots... I carry a revolver, btw. A Ruger LCR in .357, because slower reload is not my concern.
Thank you - since there was no demonstration of whether the LC9 can fire 9x17 in comparison to the LCR; I remembered watching someone on RUclips demonstrate firing 380 ACP/9x17 out of a 9mm/9x19 autoloader once. He had to manually cycle the slide in between each shot.
If Sig hadn’t messed up with the P365 then the need for an LCR and an LC9 would be obsolete! Regardless, thank you for putting forth all the effort that you have for a Part 1 & 2 of this topic Paul. As usual it was exceedingly well done!
ROTFLOL @ 5:05 Paul continues on uneffected by the range war going on 100 feet away. I had to replay it to figure out what Paul was saying not because of the noise, but because I was laughing so hard I was in stitches! Still laughing...
Excellent video. When I first started shooting handguns I strictly stuck to revolvers. After that I tried my hand at semi-autos. It took a while for me to get used to the slide moving as I shot. It was quite a learning curve but I finally mastered it. There is something more solid in the action when you shoot a revolver. The point I'm trying to make is the movement of the action in a semi-auto may be difficult for some people to get used to. It was for me.
@@MrLazyeyedhobo I am a shoot coordinator a 600 member private gun club. I also have a degree in respiratory therapy as well as culinary. How about you?
I wish he lived near me, I'd gladly offer the area behind our barn to shoot anything he wanted, free from other shooters! Love this guy, the effort he puts into these videos is just amazing.
@Andrew Sigh... I take it you are new to YT comments? You replied to bootfan, who replied to Dsdcain stating the trigger of the LC9s and LC9s Pro were the same. I was replying to your reply referenceing the difference in the triggers of the LC9s and LC9. You assume bootfan was referring to the LC9 and he was not so your comment about the LC9 being DAO is not relevant to their conversation as they were not using the LC9 as a reference.
I don’t think the real issue with crimp jump is degradation of accuracy. The concern is that the bullet may move far enough forward to protrude from the front of the cylinder and prevent the cylinder from rotating. This has happened to me with my S&W Titanium Revolvers in .38 Special +P. Since the 9x19 case is shorter than the .38 Special not sure if it would occur in the LCR.
Charles Phillips Good observation. The LCR has become very popular and I haven’t seen any seriously negative reviews so it seems to be a solid firearm.
Why mini revolver instead of mini autoloader? Pocket carry! Revolvers(hammerless) are much easier to draw from a pants pocket and the roundish curves conceal better in a pocket than the brick profile of an autoloader.
Great video Paul. Thank you to you and the people that help you for all the time and effort involved in educating people. I’m of the opinion that in a small hand held revolver, the single action is harder to duplicate (out of the box) in a auto loader. I’m no expert but 1911 styled pistols are the only type of handguns (that I’m aware of) that can come close to the trigger pull/feel of a revolver being used in single action and sometimes can take some working over to get the same feel. To me 5/6 rounds is more than sufficient for a defensive load. Not hating on people that want to carry an auto loader and a bunch of extra magazines but that is more of an offensive set up. I’m not a soldier or a cop so I don’t feel I need to have an offensive set up. I would even go so far as to say that a person using a revolver and being under fire could return fire, reload and retreat to safety almost as easily as someone using an auto loader (with training). It feels like people forget that retreating from harms way should be the first option. Some states even have “duty to retreat” laws. Some have “stand your ground” laws. Honestly though does anyone who carries a gun for work or personal defense really want to take someone’s life? Even in self defense? Even though I believe “duty to retreat” laws are a slippery slope towards violating citizens constitutional rights I still would rather gtfo of dodge and call the police who I pay through my taxes to go ahead and tackle the crappy job of killing a suicidal person bent on going to hell. I think small guns are great for close distances for self defense (not that a full sized auto loader isn’t). I also think that if you have an opportunity to escape a dangerous encounter, you should do that. I think bigger guns with larger capacities are looked at by prosecutors and jurors as more offensive weapons. If your self defensive shooting is scrutinized and you have a high cap. auto loader and 4 extra mags, who were you trying to defend yourself from? The statistical odds that a law abiding citizen would need more fire power than a cop to stop a home invasion or a robbery or most self-defense situations (I’m guessing) is pretty low. I’m not saying that gives lawmakers the right to then dictate how little or how much firepower a citizen can have for self defense.
I carry a lcr 327 magnum with 32 H&R magnum ammunition. Equal to 38+p or greater depending on the brand of ammunition, and much much less recoil and one extra round compared to 38 snub nose revolver. Also, double tap makes 327 magnum ammunition that is easy to shoot, and approaches 357 magnum power in a 1 7/8” barrel.
An anecdote on why one would choose the LCR over the LCP. My dad recently passed away a couple of months. My dad gave my mom an original model LC9 before he died. She’s 60 and has Multiple Sclerosis, causing neurological damage and grip strength issues. She can’t work the slide on the LC9, it’s way too small and stiff. It’s much easier for her to work the cylinder release and reload the LCR. Also with the Phlster Enigma system it’s very easy for her to conceal carry very comfortably when she goes on her walks around the park.
Useful information. Haven't heard of Phlster Enigma before. I do have the LCR in 22, but not yet in 9. I wonder if the LCR in 9 has more "kick" to it than the equivalent in semi-auto, such as this LC9 or the Max 9?
I'm in my mid 40's so I'm kind of in between the whole revolver vs. auto loader argument and I can say this; it just depends. If I'm at the ATM you grab me out of nowhere, I'd much rather have a .357 snub in my pocket than any 17 round 9mm on my hip. If I'm at the supermarket and some mentally ill individual starts shooting up the place, then yeah, I want the 12-15 or 17 round auto loader on my hip. The only thing that really blows my mind is how guys younger than I am completely disregard revolvers as nothing more than "something my grandpa carried"......ummm OK.......and it happens more often than you'll hear an old guy completely shit on an autoloader. Personally, in a state like Arizona (where there literally are no STATE gun laws) I feel just as secure w/a .357 in my pocket (even if only 5 rounds) just as much as I do a 9mm I've got my hip. I'd take the LCR in .357 over the LC9, I'd take the LC9 over the LCR in 9mm.
Very well written (esp first paragraph). Incidentally I'll be moving to AZ in the coming months. And from what I understand, the minute I get across the state border, I can go into my car trunk, assemble my firearm, and place in on my hip, feel more at peace and ease, and continue to my destination.
Excellent video. I currently pocket carry a Sig P238 I'm thinking about upgrading to something more powerful and also commonality in ammo with my other 9mm pistols so I stopped by the range store and tried out some pistols. When I stuck a Glock 43 in my pocket I got this horrified look from a bye standing instructor who sternly warned me that I needed a pocket holster (which I already knew) but he made a good point about carrying a auto loader in my pocket. I then switched my thinking to a revolver and shot a S&W Airweight 38 and after shooting a few rounds my hand hurt. The grips on the LCR protected my hands better so I'm going with the LCR and your video got me thinking about getting one in 9mm because I don't need to have another caliber of ammo Also there seems to me a trade off between running out of ammo in a revolver and shooting yourself in the balls with an automatic. I'm going with the revolver.
I love my EC9S. $229.99 in southern Mississippi. But sometimes I just feel like carrying my revolver. I know I should carry the auto loader all the time but I gotta spread the love. Hell I carried my 1911 last week. I love them all. Thanks for the great video
Show-off, shooting the LC9 with your weak hand. One thing I noticed....if you had shot the LC9 with 1 round in the first mag, you would have the slide lock back...thus adding some time for the reload. Still great stuff regardless.
No, not the same at all, ggrandcz. Releasing the slide adds another step that takes a bit of additional time regardless of whether you counted your rounds or not. And anyone can count to five.
I agree, would have added more time and been more realistic to have the slide locked back and had to rack slide...but still would've been faster than a revolver reload.
Ad absurdium, ad astra, ad Infinitum, ad nauseum... was Paul a Latin scholar? Wouldn’t surprise me, and I must say he’s had me consulting my dictionary on more than one occasion. You can learn more than just gun stuff here. And I love how it just rolls off his tongue as well. Great work.
By the way, did the Italian government ban the 9x19 for the civilians because they feared that if the 9x19 ammo and pistols could be sold on the civilian market, all the military and police guns/ammo would be stolen soon?
+M M. Thanks. Don't the Italians want to get rid off of this ban, now that the WW II is over? Or would it mean a too big loss of profit for ammunition makers equipped to produce the 9x21?
According to ammunition manufacturers projectiles in factory ammunition are cemented into the casings. The reason they state that they do so is primarily to water / oil proof the casing to prevent powder contamination. (It’s a black tar looking substance in most cases. It’s been a long while, but it seems that it was called something like “cementum.”) The reload time for the LCP would typically be longer than demonstrated in an armed confrontation since under the stress inherent in such encounters would tend to mitigate remembering how many rounds were fired in ones defence. That means that one would very likely shoot the semi-auto “dry,” which would require either pressing the slide release or pulling the slide to the rear to chamber the first round after reloading. The reload shown was with a live round still in the chamber which is faster than if the LCP were shot empty. Back in the day when our Agents were being issued revolvers we constantly had them count there rounds when practicing for qualification. We knew that some were “cueing” off their fellow Agents empty brass hitting the concrete. The line officers would from time to time drop a hand full of empty brass behind trainee Agents after their 4th or 5th rounds. Some, who had been cueing off the fellow Agent’s empty brass hitting the concrete would take the bait and reload. OOPS. Later with semi-auto pistols with the slide locking back after the last round that problem no longer existed. The trainee Agents though were required to execute a mandatory magazine exchange at the 15 yard line. (Swapping a partially loaded magazine for a fully loaded magazine)
I love how Paul doesn’t skip a beat as a drug war breaks out just thirty feet from him.
I was going to say something similar. Great content BPH!
paul scares me
Some of us train enough that gunshots don’t surprise us lol
@@carryeveryday910 settle down there, GI Joe. Pretty sure they just found it amusing, no need to go swinging your dick around lol.
5:03 yikes, any idea what kind, or at least type of gun (AR, Mini-14) is creating that wall of sound?
Paul, as a state police in Puerto Rico, I must tell you that I really enjoy your videos. The professionalism, dedication and empirical data are impressive. I know we are many who value what you do!
do they really call it "state" police there lol ?
No debe ser fácil ser un ciudadano norteamericano de segunda. Saludos desde España.
@ and tactical chancla bandoliers
@@jhanks2012
Porto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States.
That's a really good comment- Paul takes these issues very seriously.
One more reason for having a revolver instead of an autoloader. My elderly mother can no longer pull the slide back on her pistols. She lacks grip strength to pull it back to load, unload, or clear any malfunctions. She bought the LCR and been shooting it over last few months without any complaints. She loves the LCR and has said she feels more comfortable with it in her pocket or purse. Noticed a manufacturer recently released a new pistol that is "easier" to pull the slide back and they're marketing it to those with reduced grip strength & arthritis
Which LCR does your Mom own? My Mom has hand strength issues as well, but recently was able to easily pull the trigger on the 9mm LCR, and is thinking of getting it.
I know a guy who shot himself with a 1911 because he couldn't rack the slide anymore. It's the way things go unfortunately. We all get there some day.
This very reason is why my father carries a Kimber K6S in .357. He can no longer work the slide on any of our auto loaders above 380.
C Nemeth: It's not the trigger pull, it's racking the slide. Many females have trouble racking slides. I finally learned a method for doing it (basically push with my arm & body), but they are still difficult for me. With some revolvers, after shooting awhile the trigger gets hard to pull, but it's no problem to use both index fingers for that if you need to.
@@christophernemeth421 she bought the 22LR version first but then bought the 9mm after she shot her friends LCR 9mm. She likes it, can shoot it well enough for her skill level, & likes the moon clips. She did have a 38SPL years ago but never liked speed loaders.
Must be militia day at the range today.
It could also be a hunter practicing before going out.
@@gynocentrismergomgtow Who hunts like that? I can only see maybe a group of boar being a situation where rapid shots like that may be used.
A comedian.
Every day is militia day at the range!
If thats the case, sign me up.
Revolver vs auto loading pistol: my full size CZ P09 is very reliable, no malfunctions at all.
My small Ruger LCP II spent most of its life being repaired. First, live rounds were jammed into the ejection port every dozend shots, then the magazines kept falling out every couple of shots, now there's double feeds ever dozend shots and the warranty has expired. Not to mention that I cannot shoot decent groups with it and the aim is way off.
My 30+ year old all-steel Taurus .38 snub nose just works and I can hit what I'm aiming at quite well. It sometimes had light primer strikes. Turns out the previous owner shortened the hammer spring too much. Being a revolver this did not cause a jam, you just have to pull the trigger a couple more times. With a new hammer spring it now fires every time I pull the trigger.
Based on my expirience, I rather have a small revolver than a small autoloading pistol. The revolver may be thicker, heavier and have less amo capacity, but it works reliably and I can shoot it well.
How, exactly, did the warranty on your LCP 2 "expire?"
Paul, because of your long presentation last week I was able to have a good coherent knowledgeable conversation with a customer about 38 special +p and the LCR. I thank you VERY much.
After about the five minute mark I thought I was back in Chicago on a friday night
That just can't be: after all they have strict gun controls there. Perhaps the creeps have gotten that bit of news yet .
For me it was San Bernardino in 89'
What was that dude shooting at, a herd of yeti? Yeesh.
lmao
i thought Yosemite Sam was at the range.
5:41 ... when you’re such a good shooter you can just go lefty like it’s no big deal. If that were me that chronograph would be blown to pieces.
Lol
Practice! Try out some idpa matches give you a fun reason to shoot weak handed and might save your life one day
Lol. Me too I've tried shooting left at the range. I'm better now but, the first time I did it I think I hit my neighbors target. LMFAO
Shooting left handed 70% of the time for three years will do wonders for your offhand ability...
Not to mention the black boots. I'm not even sure that was Paul Harrell.
Normally when Paul says please bear with gunfire you hear in the background I'm like year whatever, until he started shooting the first time this video, I think I went deaf with my headphones in lol
😂😂
I think it permanently deafened my inner child.
Paul I must say, as a follower of your channel I sure do get the best of the best from your vidios. A part 2 on the LCR & crimp jump. U sure do things 110 percent. I thank u very much. These videos helped me personally.
If your last presentation was your most difficult, you're doing everything right because you nailed it. Thank you.
Just finished my day of driving and happy to catch up on a couple of your videos. Been on the road for about a month and have about a month left before heading home. Will always give your videos a thumbs up, even before watching it. Have a good day
I have both for CCW use, however my LCR is in 327 Federal Magnum. The 327 is a six shot with plenty of power and the hammerless feature not only reduces snags it also allows repeated shots (all six) from inside coat pocket, (if one was forced to do so). Thanks for your videos, they are very informative and entertaining.
This is as balanced and comprehensive a commentary on the subject of small revolvers and small self loading pistols as anyone should need, thank you.
I had to put in my orange foam ear plugs.
Mr. Harrell, I've now been watching your videos for a while. I really appreciate your almost scientific approach to your analogies. I love the fact that you are more about the actual data than just your "feels." Keep doing the great job that you are doing sir, your videos are very helpful and informative.
Awesome episode and thanks for the knowledge Paul. I carry my Dads LCR 38 special for an backup gun. I love the trigger on it and i would trust it with my life.
5:10 Rock and Roll! Another great video. BTW In the 80s I purchased a Ruger Speed Six .357 Magnum revolver. I took it to the range. After the first shot it totally locked up. The problem was that the Remington ammo had a manufacture defect. A divot (with protruding boundary) at the base of the case produced a blockage of the revolving action. A lesson that any firearm's functioning is dependent upon the ammo used.
For me I just love how simple and comfortable the LCR is to carry around and use. I also feel very safe with it in my pocket where I would definitely need a holster for an auto.
I’m confused by your comment. I carry many LCR sized autos in my front pocket. I have a s&w 638, a 642 in 22 wmr, yes, both revolvers, but also carry a Springfield armory in 380, a Kimber micro 9 in 9 mm, a Beretta Tomcat in 32 auto, a 22 lr pistol, sorry, can’t thing of the brand, but i have even pocket carried my s&w shield’s in both 9 mm & 45 acp and even my Glock 32 in 357 sig and my Taurus G2 & G3 with the 15 round magazine. I mostly wear cargo pants and shorts, but when necessary i wear a suit. If you have a good pocket holster you can carry every one of these guns i have mentioned in your front pocket. Matter of fact, i use the same holster to carry every one of the the guns in my front pocket. Since i started pocket carrying about 5 years ago it eliminated my need to wear a waist holster 90 to 95 % off the time.
I get more knowledge out of your videos than I do from any other RUclips gun channel. Thank you for the knowledge and perspective, and thank you for your service.
I love what ruger has been doing the last few years. The LC9s was a great example of the company responding to the market’s complaints, and reacting to them.
Paul glad to see you back. In my 25 years in law enforcement I have used several off duty firearms. Mostly using a Colt Officer's model in 45 of course but depending on the need I have used a Sig Stainless 380 or one of my varied models of S&W .38 J frames.
Civilians who chose to carry a semi are usually at a disadvantage as the simply do not practice, something them must do for that type of firearm. God Bless America
Dana Terlecky Practice/training is needed with ALL types of firearms. There are NO magic guns.
@@sarahwatson7692 You are so right. Funny though I have trained a number of even older people, they take one or two sessions and even when I offer my time freely for practice they seem to think one lesson enough.. The old joke when the man in NY stops and asks a policeman how to get to Carnegie Hall, the officer said "Practice my friend Practice!"
Dana Terlecky I work in retail gun sales. Every day I hear how someone knows how to shoot since they “grew up around guns” or have “been around guns all my life”. These folks have no idea what skill is. All of them feel just owning firearms and shooting 50 rounds a year makes them “skilled”.
Paul, I'd love to see a presentation on .327 Federal, there's an LCR chambered in it. It's supposed to give ballistic performance in the same league as .357 Mag, while giving you 6 rounds, in what would otherwise be a 5 round revolver. I'd love to see what it actually does to a meat target, compared to .357 Magnum.
I second this request.
Oh hell yeah 3rd!
Yeah that would be a awesome review but I think Paul has put it off because of all the hype. Sometimes the reviews that reveal something isn't really quite what people think it is aren't always well received. Personally I think of the 327 Federal as a highly practical trail gun and varmint cartridge especially if you hand load semi jacketed hollow points meant for 32 S&W long or 32 H&R Magnum. But this would be a dismal review since there isn't any factory loads offered for this application that I'm aware of and most of the guns in production for 327 federal have barrels under 3 inches and guns with barrels over 3 inches in this caliber are somewhat rare oddities. As for personal protection I think it really closely mimics 9mm luger +p but with more penetration which could be interpreted as good or bad depending on intended use. 327 federal seems to actually out perform standard pressure 9mm for ballistic performance a little and that might be were federal gets off comparing it to 357 mag. As for the claims regarding comparisons to 357 Magnum I think this definitely needs to be debunked. Another issue I've had with 327 federal is almost every offering on the market is hyper ammo as Paul Harrell would call it. So it would be a expensive top dollar review.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 show me a .38+P that will touch 1500 fps from the muzzle of a 4" gun or admit you know nothing about the 327.
Well that is one of the three constants that effect ballistics, so yeah I think it counts. You'd really impress me if you showed how all .38+P loads improved on the .327.
I have a lot of auto loaders, bought the LCR9mm when it first came out and a ton of ammo down range. I shoot auto loaders very well. Many Micro 9mm's. BUT, The LCR is the most fun gun I have ever shot. I love shooting it. Points so well for fast point and shoot. As Hickok45 say's about Subbies "There is just something about them". Yep, something special about them. They are honest, solid. True. And if you cannot hit the bad guyon a couple or rounds. then you are most likely dead anyway. Total BS about having a high Capacity firearm or need for a super light Crisp trigger etc.
Focus on the first round fired, Not the last rounds of a 10 plus round magazine. Yea, you might get a chance at a second shot, But don't press your luck.
"Bearing with gunfire" was really tough in this one. Paul, you're still the best, though, and thanks for another great video.
Wonderful video. Love the format and in depth discussion followed by real world demonstration. Your other content is great, but this is a cut above. Your team as presenters are getting better and better.
mr. Paul thank you for all the videos well-thought-out and very informative keep up the great work always keeping us informed whether we like it or not shoot well buddy
Paul, one of your best and thorough presentations to date, thank you.
Revolvers are more likely to function properly after sitting in a drawer for a long time, and they don't require as much hand strength to load or chamber a round.
I agree. My wife won't shoot an auto loader because she's scared it will go off chambering a round. Yes her problem yet a problem so she likes revolvers
It can be very difficult for us ladies to safely rack the slide.
They require twice the hand strength to pull the trigger.
Guns like the 380ez fix that.
I know at least two people who cannot rack a slide but have no problem firing a DAO revolver.
@@Bob5mith And my aunt can rack a pistol slide fine but couldn't pull the DA trigger on a newer Smith 686. A revolver is not automatically the better weak grip/arthritis option, different pistols require different amounts of force, whereas most revolvers are 10+ lbs on the low end for trigger pull. The 380EZ as previously mentioned can be racked with a pinky and has both an optional manual thumb safety and a grip safety, I think that's a great combo for a new shooter/conceal carrier that lacks grip strength and wants an extra safe gun if revolvers have too heavy a trigger. There is no absolute "ideal" option, defaulting to the normal choice doesn't work great for everyone.
Some experienced people may choose a revolver for concealed carry because even with experienced shooters, negligent discharges still happen more often than guns are presented for personal defense. Further, the great majority of the time when a gun is presented, the situation is resolved in five shots or less. So, for those people, they have greatly mitigated the chance for a negligent discharge (as experienced as they are), while still having enough capacity for the vast majority of situations. For situations where a higher capacity makes the carrier more comfortable, or is more preferable, but they still want to mitigate risk and have the skills to shoot DA/SA accurately, guns like the Beretta 92fs Compact or the Beretta PX4 Storm compact can be considered. Just my thoughts.
It's kinda ridiculous how excited I get when I see a new upload from you lol. Thanks for making such stellar content!
Paul, please keep doing what you are doing. Super appreciate all the work that goes into bringing us these entertaining informational videos. Also, don't change. Your unique style sets you apart from the rest. Thank you, again.
Sounded like the first day of buck season around here a few minutes in lol. Very well presented as usual Paul.
I don't own either of these and don't have any plans to, but I watch your videos because they are always informative and entertaining.
The only addendum to your list of reasons for carrying a revolver as opposed to an autoloader: My mother has severe arthritis, specifically in the thumbs. This makes racking the action of anything more than a .22lr nearly impossible (just unable to place sufficient thumb pressure to hold the slide, even when using multiple grip techniques).
Admittedly, this is a fairly specialized situation.
She sends her thanks for several of your videos, that more concisely and reasonably explain concepts that I was having difficulty conveying to her.
Thanks from me, too! Good Luck and keep up the great videos!
Absolutely. Some people, especially women, have great difficulty racking a slide. I can do it, but it's not easy, and that took lots of practice and using a different racking technique.
It does you great credit to be able to present the pros as cons without injecting opinion into it. What I see is a presentation by someone who tries hard to be fair and present all the arguments as best as he is able. That is greatly appreciated.
dude is the “Bob Ross” of the firearms world
actually, Bob Ross is the "Paul Harrell" of the painting world
Great professionalism Paul! I think this is my favorite video. I do wish I could hear because this is my dilemma I love the LCR and single stack 9's.
Paul: With respect to capacity I ran out of ammo, after reloading my department issued six shot Colt Det. Spl. (total of 12 rounds) in the midst of a gunfight in 1974, and had to end the fight w/a blackjack. I was never without a sufficient supply of ammo again and was glad for the change to the auto loader later in my career.
Oh hell! 'Blackjack' isn't PC anymore! They're called 'non-discriminating ass whoopers' now. ;-]
What's a black jack
It's a whoop-ass stick
Thank you
@@mallard_duck458 It's also called a sap.
Keep up the good work Paul! Thanks for your time/effort.
Paul, thank you for showing the accuracy of the crimp jump.
:D
It's been thirty years since I was ten too! 😁 I like this LC9 so much I take it everywhere. I've done the five shot hammerless revolver thing and the LC9 blows it away!!
Best pocket gun ever!!! Thank You for the well done videos Sir!!!
But solving the problem with 17 instead of 15 happened all the time in video games.
It's quite interesting, real people enter a simulation of actions that happen rarely in real life with little data, and perform those actions every thirty seconds comparing scores and data constantly. Only real issues are in the nature of reality, people react to pain, and everyone has last stand perk.
Ahh that imaginary, wonderful world where you know before the fight begins exactly how many rounds to what part of the body will disable your adversary.
@@BurgleArsonLarceny Explain "Last stand" perk.
I don't play call of battlefield XD
@@moritamikamikara3879 in those games with the perk if shot you fall over but can still shoot back with your pistol, many times people will do this, that's why police appear to over shoot. Just because you were shot and in pain doesnt mean you cant shoot back. Bad joke I guess
@@BurgleArsonLarceny I see
Oh and before I forget, happy 200,000! I was clicking that frequently asked questions video my email warned me about but you guys took it down. Looking forward to watching it later.
I don't care about LCR/LC9 I just like Paul
one of the best cc
Another interesting review from Paul Harrell, why I like his vids...
....they are demonstrated properly, with facts & math to support results.
I’m addicted to this channel.
Thank you Paul forewarning us about the background noise, you my man are a wonderful teacher.
Paul - One element of this outstanding video discussed revolvers versus autoloaders (in general). Well I’m 72, but I am NOT the older guy you described who distrusts contemporary, top quality semiautomatics (although I continue to enjoy and to have great confidence in my revolvers, as well). I mention this only because I’ll soon add one more reason to opt for an excellent revolver and I don’t want anyone who reads this to believe it’s because I’m anti-autoloader.
The “pro revolver” reason you didn’t mention is NEGLECT. It’s axiomatic that no one should own a firearm and not practice with it, not thoroughly understand how it operates, not appreciate how to use it safely, and not maintain it. With this said, however, many people purchase a handgun for home protection and almost never practice with it or properly maintain it. Of course, this is wrong, but it is also common. All things being equal, the Model 10 Smith that has sat unattended in the nightstand for fifteen or twenty-five years is, in my opinion, a good deal more likely to fire six rounds than (for example) is the Browning Hi Power that has been treated with equal negligence (magazine springs, dead dry rails, and so forth).
What your wrote it true, but also human skills degrade even more quickly than mechanical things. This makes revolvers even more suitable for people who would neglect a firearm for many years.
Right. By then they would have forgotten how to operate the autoloader!
I think Craig Benz is referring to accuracy, shot placement ,muscle memory, house clearance tactics etc, etc ....the type of skills that can fade/degrade with time....even manual dexterity can fade with time so you might not forget how to use the weapon but. be unable to use it effectively where as a point & shoot revolver will reduce some of the problems that occur with time/neglect.
I inherited a 38 S&W revolver from my uncle. (Historical note - the 38 Special is a "magnum" round. Yes. Really.) It was so gunked up that the cylinder was fairly badly out of time. But, although enough lead came out the side to be annoying, it still shot.
I personally don't have a strong opinion. I have a strong affection for the 1911 because I was four years into my Coast Guard career before I even managed to learn to shoot it.
Yep - definite gunfire in the background :) Thanks Paul. I appreciate the extra attention given to this pistol :)
No flinch with any of the background firing... THUG LIFE.
lol
even i flinched a few times ;)
Constant training and two different stints in the military will do that for you.
B real- That too!
When on the range. Bear with me with the gunfire in the background...
Had to look over my shoulder with every shot in the background, thug lyfe
I like as Paul mantain the voice pitch during the shooting at the background and keep the video rolling :) lol I enjoy a lot the way he deliveries and scripts the videos, makes easier to absorb the information. Great channel!
Stay on the safe side and carry both the LCP and the LC9. Had to stop the video and go get my ear protection on. Thanks Paul
Wow!... sounds like a "mad minute" there Paul. Thanks for the second version. The side arm that I carry has to do with where I am going and what I intend to do...daily carry vs. the woods. I generally carry a Charter Arms .22 mag or an M&P 9. In the woods, a 44 Mag.
Congrats on the 200,000 scribes
T. Ship Too bad he's a racist
tseawell90 lmao...and?
@@tseawell90 evidence? I didn't think so.
@@tseawell90 GO TO HELL.
It's a joke everyone please clam down
Great presentation as always. Excellent points on mechanics, handling, and crimp jump. Years ago when i was still in LE, i went from carrying my SP-101 off duty, to my Kahr P9. Weight was the main factor, but 3 more rounds didn't hurt. Working and living in a town of 5000 meant that i was more likely to get involved in something off duty. As it turns out, i had to assist another officer on my way home at about 0300 pne night, around the corner from my house. Had to draw down and cover a suspect with the SP-101 until we got him detained. Capacity is secondary, but it can be an issue, which was the other factor in the switch. Again, the likelihood of getting involved in something made capacity a little more of a factor. But i still went with a single stack. I got fond of a Glock 30 my last few years, but it is bulkier and wider. FWIW, my summertime carry, usually in shorts and a polo shirt, was my Taurus 850 (S&W 642 clone, more or less) in a good pocket holster. I never liked the untucked shirt look very much, so that was my warm weather solution. Anyway, great to see how the channel has grown. Keep up the great content
Two episodes? My PH balance has been restored.
Said this on another vid, Paul (and Roy), it's great to go back and watch your various vids, useful too, but it feels weird at the same time. I guess we assumed you were going to push through stick around for much longer.
That's a lot of gunfire in the background this time..
Appreciate your in depth analysis videos that address all these various assumptions and data that helps people make better decisions and know their firearm.
You made a video about the .32 caliber, mainly talking about older .32 pistols. Kel-tec makes a P-32 pistol which is considered pretty highly for a budget, concealable .32, Love to hear your opinion on it.
32 does not usually have acceptable penetration. It was considered weak before the second world war.
Douchecanoe Mo I have one. It carries in my pocket better than an lcp. And I run extreme cavitator Ammo in it which I think gives it good firepower.
I carry an older 3032 at times that requires lower pressure ammunition. I carry it at times and not to sound cliche, it's all about shot placement
Also a test of .32 H&R mag and .327 Fed Vs .38 Spl would be nice
The 327 would be great to see a video on, delivering so much force in such a small package.
Please keep up the great instructions. You are among the best on. Brian.
3:15 But there are 17-18rd flush-fit Beretta 92 magazines made by Beretta and Mec-Gar.
I’m pretty sure there are flush fit metal mags that add 2-3 rounds of capacity to the G17 too, but I could be mistaken.
Another great vid Paul. You never fail to teach and entertain. Thanks a bunch!
I've only been shooting for 39 years, have I had a malfunction with a semi auto? Yes multiple. Have I had a malfunction with a revolver? Never
Tac I used to carry my NAA .22 Mag revolver without a holster and pocket lint actually jammed it. So although it’s tiny, I’ve actually witnessed a revolver failing. I’ve never had that problem again since I’ve bought a pocket holster.
I’ve seen two revolver malfunctions. The hand that turns the cylinder broke on my mom’s s&w 638, and a primer backed out and jammed an old .357 I had.
Seen plenty of semi autos jam too.
I have seen far more "user caused" malfunctions with semi-autos as compared to revolvers. I've seen mechanical malfunctions with both. The revolver malfunctions took the firearm completely out of service. The semi-autos simply needed the improperly fed cartridge removed and the firearm reloaded. In my experience, the revolver malfunctions have been more catastrophic in nature.
I've had enough to even things out.
I've had plenty of malfunctions with revolvers. Pull the trigger and the cylinder and hammer lock midway into place. I've had struggles closing and opening the cylinder. These were new Smith and Wesson's and new Rugers. Maybe they don't make them like they used to 40 years ago.
Another reason to carry a revolver vs autoloader was covered by Paul in the episode where he shot both from a coat pocket. The autoloader jammed after 1 or 2 rounds, the revolver never even hiccuped.
Here's to another 200,000!
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My smallest 9mm auto is a G43 vs the LC9 and my 9mm snubbie is an SP 101 vs the LCR. For me personally they are both good fits for my concealed carry rotation. The G43 is sometimes the only gun I'm carrying while the SP 101 is almost exclusively carried as a bug. They are both great platforms for the 9mm in my book and I wouldn't want to be without either but if I had to choose one the snubbie is just more versatile.
I love my LC9S. The trigger is much better then the original LC9. It's the perfect CCW pistol for me. Plus they have additional mags you can buy with 9 round capacity.
@11:24
"that was when I was 10 . . . about 30 years ago . . ."
*WINK!!!*
I'm dying!!! Keep up the great work, Mr. Harrell!!
Autoloader is faster to reload, however, if you were on your last round in the LC9, you would have to load mag, then rack the slide to put one in the chamber which would be a little slower.
Love your videos Paul!
You don't have to rack the slide, just disengage the slide lock. Add a 1/4 second to the time if necessary. Also, if you keep track of the rounds you've fired you can reload with the last round in the chamber. Of course, in an actual life or death situation it's pretty difficult to count your shots...
I carry a revolver, btw. A Ruger LCR in .357, because slower reload is not my concern.
Very happy Paul answered my question about 9x18 and 9x17 in the LCR. Thanks!
RIP Mr Harrell
Thank you - since there was no demonstration of whether the LC9 can fire 9x17 in comparison to the LCR; I remembered watching someone on RUclips demonstrate firing 380 ACP/9x17 out of a 9mm/9x19 autoloader once. He had to manually cycle the slide in between each shot.
Lol all that shooting when Paul started the chronograph test had me cracking up
lol
If Sig hadn’t messed up with the P365 then the need for an LCR and an LC9 would be obsolete! Regardless, thank you for putting forth all the effort that you have for a Part 1 & 2 of this topic Paul. As usual it was exceedingly well done!
ROTFLOL @ 5:05 Paul continues on uneffected by the range war going on 100 feet away. I had to replay it to figure out what Paul was saying not because of the noise, but because I was laughing so hard I was in stitches! Still laughing...
Excellent video. When I first started shooting handguns I strictly stuck to revolvers. After that I tried my hand at semi-autos. It took a while for me to get used to the slide moving as I shot. It was quite a learning curve but I finally mastered it. There is something more solid in the action when you shoot a revolver. The point I'm trying to make is the movement of the action in a semi-auto may be difficult for some people to get used to. It was for me.
It was quite a learning curve? Do you work at McDonald's?
@@MrLazyeyedhobo I am a shoot coordinator a 600 member private gun club. I also have a degree in respiratory therapy as well as culinary. How about you?
5:04 -5:23 WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the guy shooting in the back solved the problem with his 30th shoot
I wish he lived near me, I'd gladly offer the area behind our barn to shoot anything he wanted, free from other shooters! Love this guy, the effort he puts into these videos is just amazing.
The newer LC9S trigger is really pretty good out of the box. At least the LC9S Pro is.
I think he meant the trigger of the LC9S vs the LC9S Pro.
I have a LC9s (not the pro) and think the trigger is perfect
I love everything about my LC9S Pro. It's my conceal carry.
@Andrew Sigh... I take it you are new to YT comments? You replied to bootfan, who replied to Dsdcain stating the trigger of the LC9s and LC9s Pro were the same. I was replying to your reply referenceing the difference in the triggers of the LC9s and LC9. You assume bootfan was referring to the LC9 and he was not so your comment about the LC9 being DAO is not relevant to their conversation as they were not using the LC9 as a reference.
@Andrew What? All I did was explain to you why I said what I said. If you don't get it, I can't help that. Either way, I'm done here. Enjoy.
Another awesome video Paul, Thank you. And here's to the next 200,000 subscribers.
I don’t think the real issue with crimp jump is degradation of accuracy. The concern is that the bullet may move far enough forward to protrude from the front of the cylinder and prevent the cylinder from rotating. This has happened to me with my S&W Titanium Revolvers in .38 Special +P. Since the 9x19 case is shorter than the .38 Special not sure if it would occur in the LCR.
Charles Phillips great comment
Charles Phillips Good observation. The LCR has become very popular and I haven’t seen any seriously negative reviews so it seems to be a solid firearm.
i hope you continue to make vids for a long time sir. Very entertaining and i learn a lot on your channel.
Why mini revolver instead of mini autoloader? Pocket carry! Revolvers(hammerless) are much easier to draw from a pants pocket and the roundish curves conceal better in a pocket than the brick profile of an autoloader.
Great video Paul. Thank you to you and the people that help you for all the time and effort involved in educating people. I’m of the opinion that in a small hand held revolver, the single action is harder to duplicate (out of the box) in a auto loader. I’m no expert but 1911 styled pistols are the only type of handguns (that I’m aware of) that can come close to the trigger pull/feel of a revolver being used in single action and sometimes can take some working over to get the same feel. To me 5/6 rounds is more than sufficient for a defensive load. Not hating on people that want to carry an auto loader and a bunch of extra magazines but that is more of an offensive set up. I’m not a soldier or a cop so I don’t feel I need to have an offensive set up. I would even go so far as to say that a person using a revolver and being under fire could return fire, reload and retreat to safety almost as easily as someone using an auto loader (with training). It feels like people forget that retreating from harms way should be the first option. Some states even have “duty to retreat” laws. Some have “stand your ground” laws. Honestly though does anyone who carries a gun for work or personal defense really want to take someone’s life? Even in self defense? Even though I believe “duty to retreat” laws are a slippery slope towards violating citizens constitutional rights I still would rather gtfo of dodge and call the police who I pay through my taxes to go ahead and tackle the crappy job of killing a suicidal person bent on going to hell. I think small guns are great for close distances for self defense (not that a full sized auto loader isn’t). I also think that if you have an opportunity to escape a dangerous encounter, you should do that. I think bigger guns with larger capacities are looked at by prosecutors and jurors as more offensive weapons. If your self defensive shooting is scrutinized and you have a high cap. auto loader and 4 extra mags, who were you trying to defend yourself from? The statistical odds that a law abiding citizen would need more fire power than a cop to stop a home invasion or a robbery or most self-defense situations (I’m guessing) is pretty low. I’m not saying that gives lawmakers the right to then dictate how little or how much firepower a citizen can have for self defense.
Paul, what do you think about the caliber .327mag in an LCR? How effective is it compared to say 9x19? It does give one more shot.
I carry a lcr 327 magnum with 32 H&R magnum ammunition. Equal to 38+p or greater depending on the brand of ammunition, and much much less recoil and one extra round compared to 38 snub nose revolver. Also, double tap makes 327 magnum ammunition that is easy to shoot, and approaches 357 magnum power in a 1 7/8” barrel.
An anecdote on why one would choose the LCR over the LCP. My dad recently passed away a couple of months. My dad gave my mom an original model LC9 before he died. She’s 60 and has Multiple Sclerosis, causing neurological damage and grip strength issues. She can’t work the slide on the LC9, it’s way too small and stiff. It’s much easier for her to work the cylinder release and reload the LCR. Also with the Phlster Enigma system it’s very easy for her to conceal carry very comfortably when she goes on her walks around the park.
Useful information. Haven't heard of Phlster Enigma before.
I do have the LCR in 22, but not yet in 9. I wonder if the LCR in 9 has more "kick" to it than the equivalent in semi-auto, such as this LC9 or the Max 9?
5:15 Harlem Nights
I was talking about that very scene at work today. Great movie.
"Stop shooting that little mother f***er!!"
I always enjoy the understated humor in your videos.
I'm in my mid 40's so I'm kind of in between the whole revolver vs. auto loader argument and I can say this; it just depends. If I'm at the ATM you grab me out of nowhere, I'd much rather have a .357 snub in my pocket than any 17 round 9mm on my hip. If I'm at the supermarket and some mentally ill individual starts shooting up the place, then yeah, I want the 12-15 or 17 round auto loader on my hip.
The only thing that really blows my mind is how guys younger than I am completely disregard revolvers as nothing more than "something my grandpa carried"......ummm OK.......and it happens more often than you'll hear an old guy completely shit on an autoloader. Personally, in a state like Arizona (where there literally are no STATE gun laws) I feel just as secure w/a .357 in my pocket (even if only 5 rounds) just as much as I do a 9mm I've got my hip. I'd take the LCR in .357 over the LC9, I'd take the LC9 over the LCR in 9mm.
Very well written (esp first paragraph).
Incidentally I'll be moving to AZ in the coming months. And from what I understand, the minute I get across the state border, I can go into my car trunk, assemble my firearm, and place in on my hip, feel more at peace and ease, and continue to my destination.
Excellent video. I currently pocket carry a Sig P238 I'm thinking about upgrading to something more powerful and also commonality in ammo with my other 9mm pistols so I stopped by the range store and tried out some pistols. When I stuck a Glock 43 in my pocket I got this horrified look from a bye standing instructor who sternly warned me that I needed a pocket holster (which I already knew) but he made a good point about carrying a auto loader in my pocket. I then switched my thinking to a revolver and shot a S&W Airweight 38 and after shooting a few rounds my hand hurt. The grips on the LCR protected my hands better so I'm going with the LCR and your video got me thinking about getting one in 9mm because I don't need to have another caliber of ammo Also there seems to me a trade off between running out of ammo in a revolver and shooting yourself in the balls with an automatic. I'm going with the revolver.
Viewers need hearing protection with Ranger Rick in the background shooting the up countryside.
I love my EC9S. $229.99 in southern Mississippi. But sometimes I just feel like carrying my revolver. I know I should carry the auto loader all the time but I gotta spread the love. Hell I carried my 1911 last week. I love them all. Thanks for the great video
Show-off, shooting the LC9 with your weak hand. One thing I noticed....if you had shot the LC9 with 1 round in the first mag, you would have the slide lock back...thus adding some time for the reload. Still great stuff regardless.
I noticed it too. But with that logic you should pull trigger one more time with revolver to notice you are empty because you do not count rounds.
No, not the same at all, ggrandcz. Releasing the slide adds another step that takes a bit of additional time regardless of whether you counted your rounds or not. And anyone can count to five.
abc Anyone can count to five, not true, but can MOST people count to 5 while shooting, and be shot at? I'd say not many.
@@bigdiccmarty9335 Good point. :)
I agree, would have added more time and been more realistic to have the slide locked back and had to rack slide...but still would've been faster than a revolver reload.
Ad absurdium, ad astra, ad Infinitum, ad nauseum... was Paul a Latin scholar? Wouldn’t surprise me, and I must say he’s had me consulting my dictionary on more than one occasion. You can learn more than just gun stuff here. And I love how it just rolls off his tongue as well. Great work.
Can you load an "italian" 9x21mm in the revolver? It should have the same measure as a 9x19 except 2mm longer brass.
I don't think it will as the 9mm Luger headspaces at the mouth of the case,so it will mean that that 9x21 will stick out of the cylinder.
The chambers are tailored for the 9x19, so the 9x21 would stick out of the cylinder (by 2 mm). You could not even close the cylinder.
By the way, did the Italian government ban the 9x19 for the civilians because they feared that if the 9x19 ammo and pistols could be sold on the civilian market, all the military and police guns/ammo would be stolen soon?
@@georgejohnsmith No, was done to deny ammo supply for smg idden at the end of the civil war ('43-'45 fascist vs everybody)
+M M. Thanks. Don't the Italians want to get rid off of this ban, now that the WW II is over? Or would it mean a too big loss of profit for ammunition makers equipped to produce the 9x21?
According to ammunition manufacturers projectiles in factory ammunition are cemented into the casings. The reason they state that they do so is primarily to water / oil proof the casing to prevent powder contamination. (It’s a black tar looking substance in most cases. It’s been a long while, but it seems that it was called something like “cementum.”)
The reload time for the LCP would typically be longer than demonstrated in an armed confrontation since under the stress inherent in such encounters would tend to mitigate remembering how many rounds were fired in ones defence. That means that one would very likely shoot the semi-auto “dry,” which would require either pressing the slide release or pulling the slide to the rear to chamber the first round after reloading. The reload shown was with a live round still in the chamber which is faster than if the LCP were shot empty.
Back in the day when our Agents were being issued revolvers we constantly had them count there rounds when practicing for qualification. We knew that some were “cueing” off their fellow Agents empty brass hitting the concrete. The line officers would from time to time drop a hand full of empty brass behind trainee Agents after their 4th or 5th rounds. Some, who had been cueing off the fellow Agent’s empty brass hitting the concrete would take the bait and reload. OOPS. Later with semi-auto pistols with the slide locking back after the last round that problem no longer existed. The trainee Agents though were required to execute a mandatory magazine exchange at the 15 yard line. (Swapping a partially loaded magazine for a fully loaded magazine)
Great videos
This is outstanding content, keep of the good work Paul!