China crashes another rocket! But this time, France was part of it!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- China just crashed another Long March 2c into a populated area. But this time, the CNES was involved!
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America: "You can't launch this rocket, there is .0001% chance the booster might hit a wayward boater!"
China: "Yeah a booster destroys a village and kills a few people now and then, but you got to break a few eggs to make an omelet!"
You laugh, but Trump said the EXACT same thing about why we SHOUILD lower our drinking water and mail delivery standards. So, people get hurt or you lose a bill or two (million) in the mail... It's all for the better good.
@mikegammon1 Yes and no. The comment specifics, "people get hurt and you lose mail" are metaphoric examples made up by MYSELF as a representation of the consequences from removing water and mail regulation, BOTH of which he DID state as governmental regulations that need to be removed. Yes he ABSOLUTLEY said we need to lower water purity and mail loss standards because it costs too much to regulate.
Hundreds of millions of these "eggs" have been broken for quite a number of these communist omelettes. But ask yourself, how many of these omelettes actually got made?
Don't forget shark safety.
@@NorthernChevhere is your gold medal in mental gymnastics 🏅
The US government was worried about SpaceX hitting a wayward shark in the Gulf of Mexico.
So their idea about "the greater good" was possibly hitting a wayward shark over faster progress toward a city on Mars? How did SpaceX convince the soul sucking bureaucrats they wouldn't hit a shark in the ocean?
sorry you spelled "The government dosen't like competition" wrong.
@@ziggyinc The U.S., government doesn't build rockets. They're built by "cost-plus" private sector contractors.
You got it all wrong!!!
It was about hitting a whale in the ocean. Huge difference. Halt all launches.
Elon can do more with rockets than a country with a population of over a billion people🤣 us government should start showing some respect
There's a reason things are cheaper in China. People forget that. All they see is that sweet price tag. That goes for you Temu/Shein shoppers too...
Xichang Launch Center started out as an ICBM development and testing facility. That's why it's so far inland. They didn't want it easily accessible back in the day.
And China are too poor to build a new facility by their east coast?
They do have the ability to launch offshore, though, for less sensitive commercial missions. They have Hainan island, and plenty of places on their southern coast.
"Couldn't care less" is the term you were needing. "Could care less" means they care some...
We know better.
I mean, I could probably care less..... but I would really have to try hard.... and it's not a certainty.
I was going to comment this, common thing with Americans getting this one wrong and really annoys me for some reason 😂
I know what you mean.
That's almost as bad as the American term "lucked out". To me that would mean you're out of luck and not hitting a bit of good luck which they think it means.🤦🏻♂️
@@ThunderboltWisdom same usage as maxed out.
hmmmm I love the smell of hydrazine in the morning.
That color is mostly from HNO3, which is not the safest chemical either, but HNO3 usually (for high-performance hypergolic engines) comes with one hydrazine derivate or another and that's a b1tch...
Well you know there are a dictatorship. And dictatorships sadly often have this kind of disregard for human life!
Always have a disregard
Often?
Because the good democracies have a care for human lifes when they make their wars and genocides all over the place ans steal ressources of other countries for speculative purposes?
US is the biggest dictatorship.
0:50 could NOT care less. "could care less" means one does care. Say whay you mean and mean what you say.
Sadly this is another 'Americanism' that I hear in the UK too.
This annoys the hell out of me when I hear it.
@@rogerfroud300 British english is full of weirdness too, now.
An inability to recognize sarcasm is a characteristic of autistic spectrum disorder.
Here, let me explain the phrase.
"They could care less"
Is a brief way of sarcasticly saying:
"I suppose it's possible they could care less than they do".
Now since some people are less 'Neurologically Normal' than others and those people think it's possible to argue the cringe away...it isn't.
English isn't my first language (not even my second), but I'm allways baffled by English native speakers (especially Americans) who use "then" when they should use "than"...
The French were making stupid deals for a long time. Why didn't they get SpaceX to launch it.
For same reasons why you buy from AliExpress and not from a local store. It wasn't only France participating, as seen in the video presentation, they don't decide unilaterally.
That orange smoke, so many vitamins.
How much do I care? about 25%, I could care less. How much do I care? 0% or not at all, I couldn't care less.
If they dont care about their own people it makes one wonder how they feel about the rest of the world.
You must be talking about the US government and its homeless.
China is the original hunger games
Now I remember why I don't want to go to China ever!
Yeah don't that country goes deeper into the shitter with every passing day. Why do you think so many Chinese citizens are trying to get into the U.S. right now?
True, you would rather go to America where you could get punched in the face by a random psycho while walking down the street.
Anyone see Tim Dodd's tour of the the Star Factory with Elon? The one Angry claims is going to get shut down in a few months and everything moving to the Cape?
part 1 yeah - thats not going to happen but elon will probably build another one near the Cape
The more collectivist a society is, the less they tend to care about individuals.
China isn't collectivist, at least not anymore, though. China under Xi is very much totalitarian, in reality. Massive police force used to suppress the smallest dissent.
For the good of the state.
(well, since my comment disappeared for mentioning the name of that country, guess will have to leave it out...) The country this rocket was from isn't really collectivist, though. They're totalitarian, which forces a fake collectivism through mass-suppression over the smallest bit of dissent. They're actually constantly scamming each other over there, not to mention the insane level of corruption.
@@elzar760 nasa and beehex are not the 3d print pizza license owner yet Google and its ai type show us piracy afoot, then another million dollars more changed hands, so breaches ongoing.
The idea we are not to be paid by those who put satellites up and therefore enable net connections only to divert the money for there self claimed good is not flying in my airline, integrity honorable airlines. For the good of the state like America's nasa? China have opened business services to us and America incase you missed it just this year. In my view from here seeing China and France are up front with there positions while others throw mud. Making the other side look worse is not an add that impresses me. At this stage we seek protection from the likes of the nasa.
Small tek treated badly openly infront of a global 30 million licensed things comunity don't look good in my opinion.
Good of state, seems state includes many people. Those who have choices also give business to France and China, gloss adds with no services else where are hollow. Such as America had a license transfer site but name one now, around five years since I've found one there operating, France meanwhile yip in business, basics operating there yip checked tested yip.
I wonder if America's next leader or owner might be French, they sure seem to get up and go to work. Just observations and opinions.
As a person I'd like to recieve my payments, the state that is less tending to care is united states, perhaps your called America, I'm far away in NZ.
From here nasa looks like the villain and France and China moving forward.
Yip we know there's areas to improve on all sides. Yet opertunities are now being offered by France and China while America is offering adds and payment diversion so of course we seek protection and services. Who gets to hold our tek ownerships and related job security and collect the royalties is up for grabs, France is 100% all over it and clearly by far top of the heap.
By a long long way.
Things going in can't get back out because to where who is open?
Name a license transfer site? Now let's laugh while another account in France gets opened. Congrats France.
My opinions.
nasa and beehex are not the 3d print pizza license owner yet Google and its ai type showed us piracy afoot, then another million dollars more changed hands.
The idea we are not to be paid by those who put satellites up and therefore enable net connections only to divert the money for claimed good is not flying in my airline, integrity honorable airlines. China have opened business services incase you missed it just this year. In my view from here seeing China and France are up front with there positions while others throw mud. Making the other side look worse is not an add that impresses me. Small teklike pizza printing treated badly openly infront of a global 30 million licensed things comunity don't look good in my opinion.
Those who have choices are giving business to France and China, gloss adds with no services else where are hollow. Such as America had a license transfer site but name one now, around five years since I've found one there operating, France meanwhile yip in business, basics operating there yip checked tested yip.
Just observations and opinions.
As a person I'd like to recieve my payments, the state that is less tending to care?, I'm far away in NZ.
From here nasa looks like the villain and France and China moving forward with services and offers. Protection from payment diversion a high priority in my opinions.
COULDN'T care less. The term is "COULDN'T CARE LESS"!!!
They can't even build a reliable gas engine....
Temu's dispatched parachutes
Since Arianespace has f^cked up there is currently NO European launch capability. Furthermore Arianespace was *never* competitive because it depended upon political support to cause costs to be ignored. Eventually RFA will become an alternate source but as long as Ariane maintains its political neckhold on European missions, nothing will happen.
This is unacceptable… they should have modified it by now
they don’t care
Lmao 😂 it’s China they don’t care
Excellent usage of the phrase "This is unacceptable!"
Don’t be naive, why they need to care? Western value is poison to them, and anything in front of making China great again is puny
Thanks for your effort on these videos, as a space fan they are greatly appreciated!
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Yet another sophisticated middle finger to everyone from an "I don't care do you?" country.
My dog is hidding from the Chinese since he was born.
Chinese: 🐕 meat, yummy!
Well now I hope France and the other countries involved have learned a lesson from this failed launch and go back to more reliable rocket launch platforms.
The launch was successul tho?
toxic stuff in china? is there anything NOT toxic in this country?
I just checked my news feed for articles in French mentioning the crash, they only speak of the resounding success of the mission.
The accident is very unlikely to be investigated, given the current focus on political affairs.
I did the same thing and came to the same conclusion. Complete radio science.
Someone on some other channel said , let China launch humans to the moon , not NASA.or SpaceX....yaaaaaaaaa riiiiiiighhhhhtttttt
dont worry guys, those boostets have orange smoke so u can see them and run away in time ☠️
I wish I understood the logic behind the long march rockets numbering system.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the poor people.
CCP may delete the town, but RUclips is forever.... interesting science instruments, ECLAIRS, definitely a French rocket.
Glad you’re making it back “home” to the UK.
I wonder if the USA satellite was on that rocket to begin with???
Their smoke always looks toxic.
Parachutes didn't work because they were filled with water like Chinese ICBM's.
LOL@China. LOL so much.
Maybe it was a money saving attempt by the French organization to deal with a Chinese launch vehicle. Didnt turn out too well though...
They should just use the Falcon 9 like everybody else who wants a reliable rocket at a low price!
I wonder how SpaceX deals with the prospect of its booster returning to the launch tower at Boca Chica? If anything goes wrong, it's going to have to be destroyed at a very low altitude.
Dosent space x own like 99% of Boca Chika?
@rogerfroud300 I don't think they will destroy it the will check if everything is ok before attempting to catch. If there is any problem they will try to drink it in the ocean
There are no toxic propellants in the SuperHeavy: it's just liquid oxygen and liquid methane (the main component of natural gas). Contrast this with the Long March 2, which is powered by hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide: hydrazine is one of the most toxic and carcinogenic substances in existence, and NTO is also highly caustic.
Also, there are no villages in the potential impact zone at Boca Chica, and the entire area is evacuated for launches, with an exclusion zone spanning several miles around the launch pad.
I suspect they don’t launch near costs for several reasons: high population of Chinese, ports, ships, but also so they don’t cause an international incident and start a war.
What are they using for fuel that leaves a (toxic?) yellow plume?!?
With all the lost payloads, one would think they would do a cost/benefit analysis of adding a ejectable nose cone with parachutes. Added weight/fuel, but then the cone portion may be recoverable? Not sure, but should be looked into.
Paused 5.15 held to account, here that nasa, let's hold your side to your standards to come on.
Appears China's spacex like landing attempt needs a bit more work 😊
You get my thumbs-up for posting non-conspiratorial content. Wish I didn't have to make a point of it. I remember when this used to be one of my most respected channels.
…okay?
Same. Now I can't take it seriously. He lost over half of his viewers for spamming alien nonsense. And now he requests people pay him on every single video because of it.
I'd unsubsribe myself but I find it partially entertaining when I see another UFO (Tincan floating on strings) video come out.
@@tankourito5419he most certainly did not “lose half of his viewers”
The uap phenomenon is absolutely real, take notice.
@@tankourito5419 It isn't the UFO content necessarily that I find unappealing, it's his ranting about why "science won't accept something without evidence" BS I can't tolerate. He did the same thing with Oumuamua. He thinks if there's no evidence then it MUST be aliens. And THAT I can't abide by. I did, in fact, unsub a week or two ago, after being here for years. But I DO make sure I give him praise when he posts content that ISN'T conspiratorial. EDIT: Unfortunately his financial situation is going to convince him that he needs to continue pushing forward with the conspiracy stuff... Which eventually is going to close doors to him from real science opportunities.
Yellow exhaust is bad, Mmkay?
Seriously #France, WTAF? It's not just the danger to others, do you really think they aren't stealing all the tech?
Very happy we got you back "home" to the UK in time mate, European spaceflight needs you there.
A shame that the CNES agreed to launch it's payload from that location. Collaboration, all right! However, this should be done with respect for the ways and values of their country's origin.
If I was French. I would be quite upset ! Since I am already!
I feel shame. And why do those incidents not appear in our news ?
Is there not the Union Jack on the parts instrument sponsor?
Your French was right on the spot.
The French put eclairs aboard this rocket? Typical!
1:42 because the French are a bunch of collaborators.
I thought you knew that.
Leave it to any government to "care less" about any citicen!
I wonder if they even bother to study the events that lead to the failures they have experienced. Are they simply relying on luck to get them up out of Earths gravity well?
Made in China...... hasn't been a negative saying for so long for nothing.
Wow 😮
Whoopsie...
It appears that the focus on human casualties is mainly a western world thing. We are a society where the individual is highly regarded, and any person killed or injured is seen as a severe loss.
In other societies, it is more about the group, about everyone together. Loss of a single person, of which there are so many, is seen as less dramatic.
There also are places where individual people are seen as ranking below the "god", the "prophet" and religious leaders. Loss of an individual is not important, they are just the sheep.
So it is understandable that not everywhere it is seen as a big problem when a couple of people are killed in a mishap. Not everyone thinks the same way.
France as a sort of interlocotur with china for the west seems kinda ok to me... so the US no longer has to deal with them directly.
We were just as concerned about china using child labor to make our goods back then. Today their foreign goods now own us. I wouldn’t be concerned today I’d be curious how much dominance they will gain from this action. Based on the past, I shudder to imagine.
The simple fact is, they could care less about people just like whaling illegally. They just say, Ehhh... Sorry you were in the way... Moving on.
It's not like China doesn't have plenty of coastline to launch from why the hell do they need to launch from so far in land anyway
Sad but becoming the norm
Wait a minute I saw nothing but a string of feeds when I looked this launch up they had nothing but great things to say about the launch and even showed 3D renditions of it traveling through space?
Was this China reaching into RUclips and doing their thing
As the Communist Chinese do on Earth, they will do wherever they go.
Whale 🐋 I don't appreciate launches over the open ocean 🌊!
That was a dirty coloured smoke trail.... what fuel makes that colour?
Nitrogen tetroxide (NTO) - the oxidizer for Hydrazine; a hypergolic propellant combo used by old-school ICBMs and the Long March 2...
In the West, these days hydrazine and NTO are only used for RCS thrusters on crew/cargo capsules (such as Dragon and Starliner).
Hypergolic fuels make that orange smoke. It's deadly and can dissolve human flesh. You really don't want to encounter that stuff.
Wtf? UK tried to send up a cocktail shaker?
Of course. They want them shaken, not stirred.
@@antibrevity ---snort--chortle--blush---
The Internet has a memory, and such obvious splicing of video to create false information is silly. This video shows pieces of a small rocket that fell several years ago. Today's rocket launches do not pass through these areas at all.
China’s government is literally our in universe version of Wayland-Yutani. They’d sacrifice us all, just for the opportunity to lay claim on the moon like they try to claim ownership of everything within a 1000mile radius of their shoreline😂
I thought all spacex rockets were open source data, why can't China just copy spacex??
Everything China makes is stolen from other countries but their versions are consistently trash.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Rocket says on it “made in China”
Mr. Ho sung June's rice field, road, and village were destroyed. . Mr. Ho Sung-june is angry and burned. Always call him Mr Ho.
Catching up to Boeing.
Boeing has never done this, commie.
@user-zm7hj6it2e: Catching up to Boeing? Never their lead still holds. I hear Boeing wants to strap a couple solid fuel rockets to a 737 Max, NASA is considering it, but still looking at the feasabiliy study. F_ck it, go for it.
The Boeing stuff is 99% media hype and you’ve bought into it.
@@jamescarter8311 as said by the Boeing employee.
@@Sparky056Boeing wiped out an entire village?
Oops 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol, too much risk? Mantra of the weak.
Except that the human risk associated with Starliner is almost non-existent and launching hypergolic boosters where they are designed to land in populated areas is certain to result in death. Other than that they're the exact same.
@@RockinRobbins13 lol. you certain about the risk with starliner, much less with any lauch or space vehicle? With the myriad of separate pieces that make up each and every vehicle, can you be certain you have an accurate handle of the things that can happen even on a good day? You and everyone else have no guarantee that you will see the next five minutes much less the next five days before you add the extremely hazardous environment of orbital space.
@@patryn36 Okay so you're saying that even staying in bed all day is just to dangerous? Thanks for contributing.
You DO know that if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas don't you?
@@RockinRobbins13 no i am saying that worrying about risk like most of you are doing is weakening all of you, paralyzing you with fear. That is one of the main reasons that governments get away with things like they do, the other reason is you all pursue easy like it is a virtue when it is a curse in reality.
@@patryn36 You aren't making sense. You think the signicance, urgency, lives at stake don't enter into the risk/benefit calculation? Risk, even fool hardy risk should be automatically done simply not to look "weak? " What planet do you live on? And can you avoid taking both sides of the issue? Pick one or the other!
You are too intelligent to say
Could care less
I could care less, I couldn't care less about this controversy in a teapot. In fact auto complete suggested the endings for both versions.
same for india
But apparently india isn't en evil dictatorship (or so i heard) so it's fine with them, btw they don't necessarily hit themselves but Sril Lanka.
I'm glad that these clips get played on international TV and hope that each goes viral on social media as these booster returns make them look like a bunch of ignorant kids playing with rockets. Dropping hypergolic tanks onto populated areas is insane and deserves every ounce of embarrassment that the world can provide. LAUGH and POINT and show these clips to your friends who are from these countries.
Like 1000 😁
Ah but if you turn to 0:50 you would realize nobody gives a screw about that phrase being said the right way. Language changes, this is semantic drift and idiomatic reduction in play.
Did France surrender after the rocket failed?
At the same time Boeing launch problematic space liner to ISS and risk astronaut's life. They knew there are problems about this ship
👍🖖🏽
I won't say they're doing something responsible that's for sure but that's big talk coming from someone who only care about China when this kind of thing happen once in a hundred launches, or because he fear they may get their base to the moon, while completly ignoring what his own goverment is doing around the world and to their population (shall we talk about the rise of poverty, suicide rate, etc...), because spoiler alert your goverment care even less about you than China does. You talk about the booster more than the mission while there's still no victims and that's a relief, however they do plan what they're doing no matter how impressive it may appear on camera, if they couldn't care less as you say there would be people dead, i know they'll close this site when they'll have their new launch pads ready in Wengchiang and on others sites, also when their sea launch platform will be ready, let's just hope that thoses sites become history as soon as possible, however while we're on China, wouldn't you mind talking about...
You know their strategies and plans, their successes and achievement, Tianwen-1 their technolgies like beidou that beat GPS and is actually much more used in the rest of the world than GPS, Tiangong space station and it's future levitating next to the station space telescope, you know things like this? No? You're only interested by the falling first stage of some missions? Well alright guess you'll keep being hypocritical all the way to the end. Btw i'll definitely be there to see the amount of salt you're made of when artemis will be cancelled and they'll be on the moon doing their own things with their partners, without any american on the horizon, i'm french btw this mission is one of the few i was waiting for. Americans had the entire century for themselves (even if the USSR was doing it's own thing aside) but they've ended up being an astronomical disapointement.
And what did they do during all this time? Nothing much actually, probes on mars, on the moon, and in the far reaches of solar system, that's fine and all but how many plans did they dropped, how many things, potentials, and technologies have they abandonned, all while wasting enormous amount of moeny on thoses at some point, and are now trying to re learn again, the orbital solar farms, the shuttle and various space planes, the X projects, the nuclear propulsion, the moon landing (and just the moon in general), the constellation program, countless rockets all impressives in their own way, the experience of many planetary flights, an unreal amount of proposed mission, an almost stopped JWST mission (thankfully not) and i could go on for the entire day. We have nothing of all of that, would the americans had kept investments and made solid plans to make it happen i dare say that at least half of thoses things would have happened and China wouldn't even be close to catch up with NASA and it's space sector economy, but it is, i trust them more than the americans to make the future of the stars we dreamed of for so long, i know i may sound desperate but actually i'm more angry after the americans than you'll ever be about China, they're organized, make plans and experience, talk to each other and know exactly what they're doing and working on, and they proved it countless time on every sapce missions but also on every pan of the economy.
They'll get to the moons and will keep doing their own thing no matter the amount of copium you can unleash in you pathetic videos and no matter if the americans are motivated to make them lose spirit by something huge and stupid that won't get them anywhere but just winning dick contests, you talk about UFO and other irrelevant bs all the time and starship that will never happen because it isn't even physically possible for what it's supposed to achieve, yet you wrote a whole damn book about it, last time Chang'e 6 was a major achievment and that what it took for you to talk about them, they had to make history in some way, however you trashed talk them said they were deadly rivals blah blah blah... And that mindset is precisely the reason why there is a spaceport deep inside the country in the first place, stop spouting your nonsense at once if you can't talk anything other the humongous 0.4% risk of losing someone under the fall of the booster (i'm not kidding it has been studied and everything), should i remind you that the us have the biggest amount of losses in their space program in the world? They dwarf the rest of planet on that point by themselves all while being a disapointment in the end? While even the soviet program was more dangerous and they were the pioneers in space? The chineses have yet to lose one taikonauts and they should be praised for that don't you think? Ah no that's true they couldn't care less about their guys isn't it?
Keep on going about all the "ChInA bAd" stuff, at some point you'll have to accept the fact that they're now the future, at least until the next century, you'll end you live in a world where the west have become irrelevant, economically doomed, and completely inactive on the space sector, so once that near future will be there i wonder what you'll do but no matter how full of it you are, i sincerely hope that you'll overcome the eventual breakdown you'll get through.
yoyo
do you know where this was? Just looking for a refference, I was in Wuhan and Beijing in 2004
Thankfully, with Macron's imminent departure, there shouldn't be many more French contracts for launches by China.
"Could not care less" please. You live in the UK now.
you cannot say China does not care. The government sees it as critical that payloads get into orbit and beyond without delay.
Yeah that's what he's saying. They care more about a replaceable payload than human lives
@@Iroquois_Pliskin so if NASA send starliner back to earth and it crashes that means they care more for progress of space program than the two astronauts.
@@Steve-Richter You can put _"payloads..into orbit and beyond without delay"_ responsibly and safely. Starliner will not crash. Multiple Chinese rockets have landed on populated areas. Where is the equivalency you tried so long to erect? You just made a really bad joke.
@@Iroquois_Pliskin It also depends on your view of the world. We see human lives as irreplacable. They have 1.4 billion of them and maybe care a bit less about the loss of a couple, when it is "for the good cause".
Gofundme masquerading as a RUclips channel 😂.
When spaceX debris landed in Australian farm and when NASA junk punctured a home in Florida, you don't see the angry astronaut ass has any issues with that.
That's tiny compared to to the size of this first stage, its 25.7 meters tall and 3.3 meters wide, That's way bigger then anything else dropped on a populated area by the western world, and lets not even get started on the toxic stuff that was coming out of it on the way down...