THE RITCHIE REVIEW - Car Tax- VED Rules Explained (April 2017)
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- How will the new Car Tax rules from 2017 affect you? Here's what you need to know. Also check out the VED Calculator below.
But is the system fair? Let us know your thoughts in the comments to continue the conversation.
Alternatively you can visit this one page detailed explaination from the AA which explains the new road tax rules for 2017 for new cars from April the 1st on their VED Calculator.
Athough What Car, Car Buyer, Auto Express and Car Wow all also ran great articles to explain the new car tax rules in 2017 the AA was the easiest to understand a comprehensive and simple to use guide on the changes since the tax disc online changes some time ago.
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I think they should legalize and tax cocaine!...That way George Osborne could pay for all those painted white lines with all his white lines.
Personally I think this is crazy, VED should be based on emissions so it gently encourages consumers to lean towards cleaner vehicles. Once there is a huge adoption of 0 emission vehicles on the road, I then think the VED could transition to a tiered system based on the price of the car. But while we have huge number of dirty fossil fuel cars on the road, VED should only be based on emissions.
Agreed
flip inheck My point was that it should be only based on emissions but the new rules will take into account the cost of the car. So a Tesla which is a premium car with zero emissions will end up paying VED when a much cheaper car with very low emissions would pay nothing. No car should pay less VED than another car with lower emissions.
What have emissions got to do with paying for roads ? Do electric cars not have tyres on them ? do they not use the roads ? Most of the time, they just get in my way
Mr B you need to get your facts right. VED does not pay for road. It's local taxation that does. VED is based on emissions but from April it will be based on emissions and cost of vehicle will also come into play. Read ipayroadtax.com for more info
Just put it on fuel.
Very clever pool of info. I like the humour of Bean as well ! :) lovin the work
I've always thought they should scrap VED altogether and just tax fuel (even) more. Then people who do more miles and/or have big thirsty engines pay more tax and the peeps with small engines or doing very few miles, pay less. Surely that is fair? Then they just keep adjusting the fuel tax rate up and down to maintain the revenue needed to finally sort our terrible road network.
+chills996 Nicely put!!!
My thoughts exactly - good job I checked the comments before double posting it ;)
Double posting is always allowed on RUclips you know...
Sounds like a reasonable system....works for all - electric peeps pay nothing, and as you say those who nacker the environment pay more, those who wear the life out of the roads with loads of miles or heavy vehicles - pay more. The granny who goes to the shops once a week pays next to nothing. Its a pay per mile and emission tax that doesn't need a load of monitoring equipment.
Sorry but where do you think the electric comes from, power stations burning coal. They also clock up more airtravel miles during manufacture, so in reality they should pay a different tax, not zero tax
Love this!
Absolutely brilliant mate, informative and very witty!
+James Littlechild Thanks - kind of you to watch and comment.
Can you explain the new MOT rules? I apologise if you have already covered it
I've just bought a 2008 Mercedes ML320 Sport and had a shock when I taxed it at a whopping cost £555 a year!
Yikes
then you should have checked how much it was to tax it f...ing idiot
Love the mr bean clip lol
So if I buy a Mustang and the listed price is £39500 I won't pay the higher VED rate of £340 from year 2-6. What if the listed price is £36000 and I add extras like auto gearbox, posh colour, custom pack etc and it costs £40200 do I then pay an extra £340 pa. The question is what do they mean by listed price? Is it the price of the basic model or not? What happens to the rate of VED -is it the listed price when you sign the contract or the listed price when the car is delivered ie there could be price increase between the contract to purchase and the delivery date? Regards, Victor Webb.
Anyone have any idea how soon I can renew my tax online before the end of the month. I should put it on direct debit really. I have looked at various websites the only answer I got was 2 months before if your going on holiday which I am not. Odd that such a straight forward questions doesn't have a clear answer.
Im a little bit confused by something if someone cared to explain....www.parkers.co.uk/vauxhall/corsa/vxr-2007/car-tax/ I saw this and I was curious about something. It says Annual which I will assume yearly its £300.00 but Six-monthly
Road Tax is £165.00. So are you paying £165 for 6 months? and since the first year its not applicable does that mean if I bought a second-hand card I pay £300? Sorry about this I am still new to all of this and I am trying to understand the math in here.
great video, nice but of humour in there too! do you know of these diesel charges/toll tax for some uk cities? we want to buy a van but hmmmmm..?!!!!
If you need one you need one .... London and vans may be an issue, long time before uk roll out on any fines. Its the older cars that are the issue. They do plenty of low emission vans anyway.
Ok so this is some what contradictory to what the GOV website says.
According to the GOV site all tax rates for cars sold before 1st April 2017 will remain the same as it is now. All brand new cars after this date will have this VED(Showroom TAX) which by the looks of things is just taking current tax rates and multiplying them by 2.
Road TAX levy should be scrapped completely and added to the price of fuel. The more you use the road the more you pay. The more efficient or economical your car the less you burn fuel and the more you can drive while paying overall less.
That way the country can save money on expensive road tax enforcement tying up police services, huge court case expenses and those wishing to avoid paying the levy as its all in on the fuel.
I think an extra 5pence/litre on fuel won't really show much of a impact for road users at all and would simplify the whole saga.
The more you burn the more you have to fill up and the more one pays.
Yep I think I said AFTER April first didnt I? Good comment - agree, its a stupid system if if goes ahead, really stupid.
Well i just bought a Mazda RX8, highest current TAX levy and Mazda have a whole new range coming out next year especially a MX5 high powered model, talk of a new RX model. There is no way what so ever new high powered models will ever sell on this new tax scheme.
Guess we maybe better of buying a canal boat or pedal power.
Apparently its because of the lost revenue with the VW diesel scandal, and the abolishment of the tax disc and they have lost quite a bit of money, not sure if its true, but wouldn't be surprised if it was
What ever system you have, the revenue would have to slightly increase year on year. Does it matter? If one day we all drove electric cars, we would still all be paying more than we do now. They would start taxing per us mile if they couldn't find another way to charge us though fuel.
It seems that more people are starting to see the benefit of putting road tax on fuel, a statement I made over thirty years ago and people agreed it was a good solution then.
The problem is that road tax is not used purely for the uk road system, much of it is used elsewhere and because of that the current dated system will not be changed, why would they change a system that gives them a guaranteed figure every year.
If the more fair and just system of one or two pence on a gallon of fuel were adopted the economic climate will dictate the fuel consumed, if things are good we go out more so using more fuel, if money is tight we tend to stay in and so use less fuel, ergo less tax.
Yep - they are talking about putting a complicated system of road pricing in place based on GPS, cameras etc - when we already have a mechanism to charge by the mile now - fuel duty.
Scrap VED and increase fuel duty - and you are effectively charging people to drive by the mile and charging them based on actual emissions - with no additional infrastructure needed.
5 years later… the roads are still shit… i’m paying £480* per year for my 2L 5 series while my mate in his c63 (6.2l) petrol fuel guzzler is paying £555* per year… worlds gone mad… i’m going to end up buying a c63 too now… way more bang for my buck in all honesty 😭😂
Looks like next time I go car shopping I'll pop into halfords and purchase a push bike instead. Thanks for the heads up HR in a car.
+Ryan Miller No. There is going to be a surcharge for bikes over £150.00
No speeding fines no parking fines no wheel clamps no bus lanes no insurance, just multiple trips to A&E due to moon crater road surfaces.
OK I have a Yaris hybrid at the moment I pay no VED if I keep this car do I still pay no VED?
Yep keepies.
wonder if i'm right thinking this; I bought my car 2nd hand a few months ago, it was £50k when new 2 years ago, so I'm going to get hit for this tax hike - yes?
nope
I always buy ~5 year old cars so my car ownership strategy for the coming years will be:
Buy low emissions vehicles registered pre-April 2017 to take advantage of free/£20/£30 road tax.
Then in ~2025 buy a luxury gas guzzler that’s over 6 years old, and pay a flat rate of £140 road tax.
Winner winner!
So theoretically , Today it's better to buy pre 2017 car or post 2017 if its more than 6years old ?
Am I correct ?
To be honest it's really difficult to understand it ,and logically why new car got bigger road tax than older one?
So after 6 years all the cars including the £40000+ car with the v8 will cost £150 a year? Or the v8 pays £150 + co2 tax.
It's first five years of car's life - years 0-5 - so a 6 year old car reverts to the lower rate or the rate set in line with the car's - The V8 is not so clear - its mostly on the value of the car - you can check assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/979292/v149-rates-of-vehicle-tax-from-1-april-2021-for-cars-motorcycles-light-goods-vehicles-and-private-light-goods-vehicles.pdf
If I bought a car it would be old simple, light weight one because it would have less to go wrong with it, it would probably be a little bit more fuel saving and it would probably look a but more interesting than a lot of the cars on the market now. it might also have a cassette player.
I have just paid my rd tax by direct debit, £270 ish I think it was, for my 2003 car, if it is going down to £140 per year can I get any of that back?
Don't think so sorry...
It will stay at that rate from my intel.
Its a bargain for some big cars being £140 a year to tax, but for small cars £140 is excessive, really wrong.
Hi, ive got 52 plate Zafira, 2.0dti, but if I bought a second hand car like the same one, but registered same year, but by the second hand car after 1st April 2017,got a few hundred pounds, would I be affected
Car has to be registered after 2017 April to be affected so yes.
So ok, but if I buy a second hand car registered before the 1st of April, its not a new car registered on of after the 1st of April 2017,so surely old rates apply. I will never afford a new car of 40k,out if work. Any car I get in future, will be like a few hundred quid, diesel, as ive got a biodiesel processor
Yes correct old rates apply - if the car was registered before i.e. ex demo. Used or whatever.
Until they change it again, and all cars are affected!
it would of bean best just to increase the prices on the current system and lower the 100 gram threshold to say 80 or lower if needed
how can I tax my car for just 2 months can I pay for 12 months then SORN it and get a refund it’s a sports car going to garage it in the winter
It must be so disheartening if you own sat a 14 plate car on free or £20 a year tax, you upgrade to a 18 plate and it’s now £140 a year. No wonder, used cars before April 2017 seem to be popular
Was looking into this today before deciding what company car to get....... Public transport it is then!! 🤣 🤣
Yes indeed... no wonder new cars are sucking in sales.
Free three years of valium tablets with every new car should boost sales.
Wait so if I current car which is free I still don't pay tax? Because it's currently tax free?
Yes no charge unless you change cars.
HR in a Car well I won't be changing my car any time soon
In Belgium for a 5.0 Ford Mustang you pay a "first registration fee" of around 11.000 € ... plus 3000 Euro road tax for that first year. After that you pay 3K every year ....
+bimbeano Shut up .... ......lieeeessss
+HR in a Car Why are you so rude ? It's the simple truth ...
Strange way of running a RUclips channel ... telling people to shut up.
BTW .. In Holland it's probably even worse ;-)
+bimbeano Was totally playing dude. Sorry. We say "Shuuttt uuuup" as a way of saying "No WAY" or "Your shitting me" or "Your kidding.." its a UK term of phrase.
+HR in a Car Hahaha ... my fault :-) ... i just checked and it's 10.495 to be exactly ... plus that 3K annualy :-) ... just because of the CO2 being above 250 or so ...
That is crazy bizness. Move house.
We shall see if the new taxes will mean better roads.
I kinda doubt it though as the UK Government can't even solve traffic congestion along the M25 (which has now become the most congested roadway in the entire European Union)
+Paul Andrew Chiok Precisely. Its hardly worth living near it or in fact driving anywhere during the day at all now.
sweet
+Paul Chapman Well its not, but I guess you mean something else :)
In the channel Leland they put the road tax on fuel so if you drive a lot you pay more fair I think
Did not know that!
My car is £500 and does that mean I still have to pay £140?
Basicslomotion look it up bro maybe yes
tax for 20 pound a germany car and the nation of car is important too?
Your Government must have sense. The government here just wants to tax everything
Tax by the amount of miles you drive X a given CO2, Carbon Footprint to build and NOX rate, based on your car...So an electric car would be say 0.05p a mile and a gas guzzling mustang would be say 5pm a mile. Future proof also once we switch all to electric, get your mileage confirmed at an annual MOT or car will send mileage data wirelessly itself in future anyway
VED/Road fund licence/Car tax is just a tax, which is just another way for your government to take money from you the people. So the question posed is some what pointless. Please disassociate the "name" of the tax and where the government is likely to spend it, It's a pool of money, just cus if has car tax in the name doesn't mean it will be spent on the roads. Otherwise where should the goverment spend such taxes as VAT and Inheritance? I get the intention, yes the roads are awful, but like all governments they have to make a budget that suits the current economic climate and live with not being able to please everyone all the time.
This new system is an excuse to extort more money from the motorist. . .my 2016 Corsa = £35 tax per year.....my replacement Corsa= £180+ tax per year , despite the smaller engine with less emissions. . .where is the justification in X5 increase in VED???
Here is a question. What if the car costs £39995, and you add 10k of extras... I wonder how it works in that regard... I missed that out of the video didn't I....
It must surely be the total final sale....otherwise i would see car dealerships selling you a car for £39,995 and then charging seperately for optional extras such as wheels, doors, roof, seats, carpets, battery, exhaust etc lol
hahahahaha a doors / roof hahaha
Hi, Its all factory options that add to the price and not dealer fitted options. So all we need to do is sell cars for #39995 and fit the optional Engine at the dealership, that should help.
ha no seriously?
ha! Yes.... I cant wait to find out
I think it's great that the government want everyone to switch to electric cars, I have never seen a charging point where I live and what we suppose to do trail extension leads across the paths so people can prosecute you when they trip up !
It's ok for MP'S who have a good wage but the average working person who can just about afford a banger to get him to work there the people that suffer. I live in Warwickshire in UK and the roads have pot holes more like sink holes so where's the money going
What's point of driving a Eco car now under this tax system
Correct - what is the point. Unless you drive something really bad.
John Butler they dont care about eco or anything else just want our hard earned cash to drop bombs on people .miles away from here in the name of democracy.
I could see this coming a mile off, more people buying zero road tax cars= lost revenue. £140 is a big leap, for smaller cars it should be £100 tax and larger more polluting cars, maybe £120. Its just wrong, i hope they make changes to it eventually
People are paying a fair bit of money to tax a car, VED should not be an additional cost when buying a car, wether it's a new or second hand car.
stick with my 335d for awhile then xD
Tax the driving license not the vehicle as You can only drive one vehicle at the time .
So basically the gov is telling you if you want to save money in the long run go and buy a gutsy fiesta st or a Corsa vxr. Don't bother about those silly 1.0L cars anymore.
Pretty much. Yep
Guess what motorists? that extra money they are raising is not being spent on fixing roads its used for smart motorways, more speed cameras and traffic calming measures like speed humps and restricted speed areas, more warning signage and paint saying slow on roads and more enforcement cameras. also narrowing chicanes e.g. 7f however the problem this creates is cars are slowed down or idling in traffic which affects pedestrians more as moving vehicles are less dangerous to the air surrounding pedestrians which will then create stricter EU emission standards such as Euro 7 and 8 and more motorists will be caught out just like in London drivers who bought a vehicle 3 years ago have euro 5 diesels will now have to pay a ULEZ central london charge which discourages people from buying vehicles and rather financing which is another idea the government wants as it sees regular payments towards financial companies as stable income which means they are less likely to liquidate and go bankrupt so banks will not need to be bailed out but then again the greedy bankers will just take more risks with lending and it will cause the cunt of all res sessions big enough to bend the conservatives over and rape there trust funds. road tax that punishes low end vehicles that the common person can afford which may be less likely to have high emissions to reduce motorists on the road as the dvsa plans to reduce vehicular motorists by 90% over then next 100 years and use public roads for business and public transport. its all false economy in the end because people will tend to keep older polluting vehicles as they dont fall under cunty road tax legislation. oh and the government refuses to acknowledge they have misslead people into buying polluting vehicles so offers a 2 grand scrap page which makes no difference if someone splashed 30 grand 10 year ago
i only do 6000 miles a year but I pay same as a taxi firm using same car doing 2 or 3 times that mileage think that bit unfair
disgusting and unfair and dumb
Ill be in a pruis...
Its very unfair, I am i right in thinking that all cars are £140 tax now, even for polluting cars?
I know one thing, diesel car owners need to pay real car tax now, they have been cossetted since Gordon brown gave them cheap tax concessions based on their emissions, what he didn't anticipate at the time was that diesel engine cars are responsible for deadly carcinogenic particulate emissions, which we are all breathing in. They should be taxed at twice the rate of petrol engine cars, lets hope this new regime taxes diesel car owners heavily, everywhere I look are diesel cars on the roads.
didn't take a genius to guess that from april 1st new car sales have slumped...
Yes, i have a 7 year old car, this gives me no incentive to buy a post April 2017 car at all.
I would like to say go and do one to the government, how dare you increase car tax when we already pay astronomical amounts of tax. For example, i own a currently tax free car. How ever I pay fuel tax, insurance tax, repair bill tax breakdown cover which is also taxed.
So in short I already pay a lot of tax just to keep the car on the road, the whole reason I bought this car was to save a little money in fuel costs and especially tax!
How many perfectly good cars are going to be scrapped because there simply to much to tax!
And they say there going to spend money on the roads every time they increase it but we all know that's nonsense! My area is riddled with potholes and the road system is poor to say the least.
Can't believe they have the cheek to do this
don't forget vat and income tax.
What the hell?!?!?!?! this is news to me
Road tax should be paid by total annual mileage in my opinion
No because far to many people drive less than five miles.
@@mikewade777 but loads of people split mileage between multiple vehicles
. I'm going to remove the cat from my car and add caster oil to my diesel so it smokes like hell seeing as i'm paying for the shite that comes from my exhaust.
Then don't complain when it gets destroyed.
In Australia we have 33% luxury car tax , c63s here is 156000 ' rs3 85000 ' Hsv gts 100000 . The taxes fund free health and High education waste of money
For that much i want the road to drive me around and wash my car
I think the way this country is going I hope I can win the lottery and just take the money and go and not look back That's coming from a real born English man every body is thinking more or less the same
Strayla retires moving to Thailand
That would be great because then you would take the problem with you.
TaX people that SMOKES!
many people will just quit driving with all these laws big firms will move to a diffrent part of the world so well done get the roads nice because soon they be empty and all that oil and petrol will go no place so they be screwd
Well moved from good old England to Oz and thought well maybe I should bring my cars and bike with me.?! After all it's a ZM3 and 79 camaro that I had in the states. And my bike that I used to run to work in England. Road tax here in Oz $500-$700 per car per year oh and that applies to motorcycles as well!🤔😡. Unlike England you do get a little liability cover with that but that's about to change. Roads here are crap, uneven nothing really special like the ones in France or Germany or even the bumpy English roads. Motorcycle regro in England was £75. Needless to say both cars are still unregistered and not in use. The system I like is the one in America! Where it doesn't cost you an arm or leg to own a car, which means you could own a lot. Which helps to reduce what's being crushed, destroyed and recycled. God bless the USA.
Ha yes...!
Soon as there are more electric cars on the road and govenment gets no cash from then .They will say that electric cars ,like other cars . Still take up road space,still help wear out roads and take space in traffic jams.
Considerably less pollution in towns and cities.
I would introduce funds to develop hydrogen cars or hydrogen hybrids as they are very efficient and would bring oil companies to their knees. Plus you can make your own hybrids.
CO2 emission-based tax is nonsens based on climate change BS.
Electric cars wearing roads down as well. Fair system should be based on how much someone is usung a car-which obviously leads to fuel consumption per 60 miles or whatever distance you wish. It is easy to calculate, in average, how much car with certain engine and fuel consumption will be using roads.
Another factor is weight. I'm not a physicist and I don't know if ther's much difference, in terms of wearing down a road, between 450 kg car and 600 kg car. Ther's definitely difference between small car and huge lorrie. Lorries carring goods we need so tax will end up in those goods prices anyway. This is anavoidable. That would be bad news for horses owners though, as ther's no one to participate in their hobby costs. But it's fair.
What I find totally unfair is huge tax bump on expencive cars. They will not wear down the roads more than cheap cars of same weight and fuel consumption. This is just tax on wealth. If government wants it-let it be called by real name. I hate hypocrisy.
remove road tax add to fule prices
We are paying towards the brexit bill.
So if you work hard and earn well enough to buy a luxury new car you have to pay £450 road tax for the first 6 years sounds more like a punishment for not being a dole dosser
if You think that's bad . look at Australia base Porsche 911 270hp costs 240k aud
Look at it a a punishment for poisoning people.
I v just looked at a Subaru legacy r estate. £6K car and yes £600 a year car tax!!!!! What a joke. Road surfaces never been worse. It will be all electric and smart roads reading your car and billing you accordingly. Its coming. No fuel duty and low road tax for electric so go figure where the billions are coming from.
And forget choice. Its electric or yes electric.
So the UK motor industry is screwed. No point buying a car that emits less than 100g cO2. Just straight tax everyone! How did we ever allow these people to have so much power.
its odd, because the conservatives claim to be the party of low taxes, yet they seem to be taxing everything.
Because left party probably block policy , to cut government workers that are creating the debt , so right bring in taxes to pay for bloated government
This stupid tax has put me off buying a Mercedes Sl, 610 for year, joke of a country
Politicians should be taxed for talking bollocks.
u gotta be effin kidding me
wish I was
People in Westminster should stop eating sausage rolls for free to save government money🥴
Even better if they stopped eating altogether😃
Remember S.E.T sex enjoyment tax ...
if we all stopped driving this country would be bankrupt
cyclists should pay road tax
Mostly on Sundays.
What about horses I cycled past two on Sunday they were definitely not zero emission.
Taxman with his hands in our pockets again. No vehicle should be 0% road tax as they are not totally green. Second hand car parts should be tax free. Oh yes, and the alternative that's been on the table for years is adding road tax to fuel.
Pay as you go works - not pay as you sit out side your house.
scrap car tax, put it on fuel, then nobody can wriggle out of it
Put tax up on other things, not on the motorist
Let's go buy an electric car
Should tax caravans / trailer and cyclists as they are a big pain in the backside and causing accidents
Well then they should tax cars for being the biggest danger on the roads.
This video is incorrect and misleading, the new VED rates will only affect new cars bought after the change in rates. The video says ALL cars which is totally wrong. Existing car owners will not be effected. Check other vids to get a better explanation.
Watch it again, I had the script checked and verified by the AA brother.
Road tax is road tax and should be spent on the roads which it is not,look at all the potholes on roads which take 1 years to fix,then they come and just patch it,and within 12 months holes back again.If were talking about emissions go look at the SHIPPING Industry they are the worst polluters, but the government keeps that quiet, there more worried about petrol lawnmower lol than a stinking ship.
The poor motorist will always be used as cash cow by the government
Because you're poisoning people.
Cyclists dont oay tax so should not be on road
So how much emissions does a bike produce, 0 of course, that's why we dont pay tax, but then we do also pay for the upkeep, of our poor roads, from our council tax just like everyone else does so we are perfectly entitled to ride on the roads.