How Idiots Wreck Dodge Vipers
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2022
- Casey Putsch speaks about Dodge Viper accidents and how idiots wreck Vipers. This video is in response to the Dayton, Ohio Viper RT10 who tried to race an Acura and crashed into a tire store sign. Casey shows his 100,000 mile Viper GTS and his early RT/10.
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It Always Hurts My Heart When A Viper Gets Totaled By Idiots..
Sounds like a country song
I drove a viper when I was 25 years old. I loved being behind the wheel of that machine but I knew I wasn't experienced enough to push that car to it's limit so I was careful. I had an amazing time without being stupid. It's been 20 years since then and I know I'm still not enough of a driver to touch that car's potential. Treat a viper with respect and you'll have a great time no matter what.
That's true with any vehicle! You can certainly push anything to it's limit, but pushing any vehicle past it's limit will be a very bad time.
The most important thing is knowing your limits as a driver.
When there's a wide usable bandwidth, you really don't need to explore the danger zone that much.
@@rickc2102 could not agree more
Glad you had some sense
@@jameshaulenbeek5931 Not really. There's a lot of vehicles you can punch it in whenever you like with no concern of going sideways. Today with traction controls you can even do it carefree in fairly powerful cars.
The older Vipers and some other beasts out there are not designed to be punched like that. You gotta feather them and always ALWAYS rev match smoothly while down shifting.
As for speed, sure, every vehicle has its limits with handling but that's an entirely different thing from the amount of care you have to take with some cars. Some are so scary just giving it 25 percent throttle will have you on edge.
My brother had a custom built fox body that was terrifying. He ended up wrecking it in his driveway actually while leaving. 🤣 He's a very skilled race car driver too. Not pro level but definitely better than most drivers.
Nutshell; some cars our absolute beasts, like riding on the back of an angry bull.
Knowing your vehicles limitations is most important.
This video resonates so much with me.
I have a first gen '95 RT/10 and if I had a dollar for every dude who told a story about how "unpredictable" and "impossible to drive" vipers are from people who had the story of, "I had one and spun it out at like 20mph and sold it!" then I could probably afford a gen 5. I've never had such an experience in my first gen viper. It's like people forget that the throttle doesn't have 2 settings of just off and WOT lol. All I can do is laugh every time I see those stories. It's just cringy and makes me immediately assume that person has no self control and doesn't take their cars to a safe place to push limits, so they learn to FEAR the car, not respect the car. Then they get a wild hair at a light and decide they've got mario andretti skills and don't.
My dad was terrified when I told him I bought one and said, "oh my friend so and so had one and sold it in a week. He was so scared of it and spun out in it and said he couldn't drive it safely." and all I could think was, "Does he just go driving wide open throttle everywhere?" I mean it's possible to modulate the throttle and make good choices, but sure, okay. Sure enough one day his friend is visiting and tells me I should sell my viper because "they're just so dangerous" and I said, "Uh, I mean I haven't wrecked it driving like a normal person yet. And any stretching of its legs happens at the track so, I think I'm fine."
When I got my viper the previous owner said "It handles really scary!" - the tires on the back were a year old, ok cool, that's perfectly good. The tires on the front were from 2008. YEAH, I imagine it does handle a little weird there broski, maybe because you're trying to steer with uhhhhhh hockey pucks?
All these guys go buy a viper with old shitty tires, cold tires, have no idea what they're doing and somehow think that having a viper makes them a better viper and then get humbled, fast.
It's possible to drive them like a normal person. And it's easiest to push the limits at the track. Better to kill some cones or end up in the sand than become famous on instagram for being a complete idiot.
*Crashes viper into light pole "Oh the viper bit!" No no no, you bit yourself. My car has 80k miles on it so far, and looking forward to many more miles on and off the track.
Vipers deserve much better. Make good choices.
Preach brother! But do watch out for standing water; those steam rollers can still ride the waves even if you're just cruising steady speed 😉
Is the throttle light or something? 90s BMWs I've driven have a pretty long throttle where you know you feel like you're stepping on it because you have to push through a bit. I'm genuinely curious how so many people can be this dumb about them...or is it just automatic drivers going from slow kickdowney autos to manual and having literally no self control
@@Petrospect People talk like it is, but it's not bad. It's cable driven, so the throttle opening on the early vipers are an even ratio on the throttle. You can drive them like a normal human being, sanely, and gently if you want. A lot of people talk as if you just breathe on them and they go jump through a wall but it's not like that at all. They definitely have a lot of torque, and when you demand it, it definitely is there. But it isn't like it creeps up on you and you go, "oh wow I didn't realize we were romping on the throttle this hard."
Most of the time I'd just call it down to people who think that owning a fast car makes them a better driver and overestimate their ability, and have not properly maintained the car, are on old tires, and things along those lines. With nice sticky tires, they hook, and they hook well. I think Casey nailed it well though in basically saying you need to make good choices, and know your abilities and limitations, drive within those, and be responsible.
That can be very hard to do if someone doesn't have a lot of self control behind something as small with as much torque, and no electronic assists in a viper.
If I go romp on the throttle in my c6 corvette, by default traction control kicks in, if i get it sideways the yaw detection kicks in. It's super conservative and keeps me from getting myself in trouble. Turning all that off and I can go wild and have fun. A lot of people don't tend to turn all of that off, they're used to driving with that stuff. Then you go hop in something like a viper and go do the same and there's nothing to save you from yourself.
Like he said, make good choices.
@@koihoshi Our roads are so crap in Greece and I'm used to driving on slippery Contis that my '91 316i E36 with like 93hp and an open diff will go sideways if you look at the throttle wrong. No electric aids or ABS to keep you in check. Going from that kind of an experience to something like a Viper, I couldn't imagine being equally reckless because it really is a very stripped down, raw experience with that in mind.
Your/Casey's thing about attitudes definitely holds up.
If you romp on even normal Mercs they instantly go "hey there now, stop slipping" with the traction control and it keeps you too in check.
Yeah, I definitely see your point now.
Interesting.
I have a 94 Gen 1 myself.. Bought it had old 10yo tires on back replaced those in first month.. Im no race car driver but I can drive good.. And the car handles amazing its far more capable than I'd even dream of pushing it.. You can hit corners at more than twice the posted limit and it just digs like glue to the road.. And yep modulate the throttle everyone told. Me. Stories before owning it and after the first week of owning it I got to. Wondering how those stories exist... The car is easy to drive even at wot. Both hands on wheel.. Good tires.. And just don't be stupid... Aka racing at the red light.. I mean sure there's been a few times I've exhibited the speed against someone but I never pushed beyond what I'm comfy with and I drive my car very spirited... I love the sound of that v10 in the ears lol.. Anyways hello fellow Gen 1 owner? Will you be at the club meet at tail. Of dragon??
That cable story is 100% true. I was driving my 96’ rt/10 on sawmill rd in Columbus OH and caught the attention of that deceased gentleman’s father who then walked up to me in a parking lot. We spoke for a bit and he showed me the pictures of his son’s totaled viper after the cable cut through the windshield and into the driver’s seat, blood stains and all. Being in my 30s I believe he felt the need to share his story as a warning to me …. Small world…. I Never figured that story would end up on your channel……. Give me a wave if you see me in Columbus…. You’ll know it’s me because my red viper has those infamous yellow wheels. Haha.
No way you own that viper? That’s sick I’ve seen you’re viper on internet! Looks awesome😎👍
yha read this story too
First sports car I ever drove was a 99 GTS. Still the fastest I've ever been in a car. I was lucky I didn't crash it, looking back. The owner, our next door neighbor, put me in the driver's seat and told me to "really drive the car". I had turned my first car, a 2WD Toyota Pickup, into an autocross vehicle, so I wasn't totally inexperienced with performance driving, but going from a heavily modified turbo four banger to a Viper is still quite a step. We hit 170 mph on a rural farm road with no driveways and a fresh surface. It was the fastest the owner had been in the car to that point too. He did tell me, a 20 year old, to "really drive the car". He still has the Viper and still recalls when I drove it with no regrets.
Csb
"I'm putting this down don't look at my junk, and by junk I meant I need to sweep the floor." Thanks for the clarification 😂
What's up people! It was time to make this video after the stupid Viper wreck recently. What was the most interesting part to you? Or funniest? :)
Fart can, lol. So true!
You shouldn't say crap like that to Honda bois 🙃 fwd cars can be sketchy with torque steer when they have high horsepower . Not to mention Honda bois are one of the most innovative and efficient people out there. The video was good Casey I get the context of the video make more of these
20 year old tires… bro.
The fact you own a Gen 1 is pretty freaking sweet.. I own a 94 myself.. I love the quirks of the Gen 1 one day the value of them will be where its deserved but I don't care I just drive mine every weekend love it.. You spot on about tires and the type of drivers.. I don't consider myself any kind of professional but I definitely know I'm a pretty good driver, better than most people I know in fact lol.. Also 100% right a viper owner knows he won that race b4 It ever started and had nothing to prove.. If I was 25yo I wouldn't of deserved a viper but now that I'm 35 I love my baby.. I hope to add a Gen 2 gts or a Gen 5 later
Also spot on about how vipers actually handle amazing when you have good tires on them.. You headed out to tail. Of the dragon this summer with the viper club?
Casey, it is so frustrating seeing people drive Vipers on tires that are either cold or old. As an owner I’m very aware of my tires age and expect others to think similarly. It’s insane.
Bought a 2005 last year and the tires were from 2007. In cold weather there was no grip whatsoever. Really dangerous! Now I have new tires all round and man, what a difference. Never cheep out on tires boys!
When i got my Black 2000 RT/10 last year it still had its original tires on it. They were terribly cracked, one had actually blew out sitting, so i had to use its spare tire to get it on to the trailer. I got it from its original owner with 16k miles on it, an the original owner was a woman.
Those old Vipers look fantastic from every angle!
Guess I should've been expecting Casey to comment on this incident. I've been hearing about it in the local circles.
Glad someone said it right!
Also glad this video was also shared in the Viper Club of America group!
It won’t stop someone with an overinflated ego and tons of testosterone pumping through them from wrecking another one but at least it explains who is to blame and it has nothing to do with the car itself.
The real heroes are those who are rebuilding these after wrecks and keeping them alive.
It's amazing how tires and brakes and driving ability are some of the most overlooked to do mod wise especially if your car is a RWD, Vipers are my (realistic) dream cars and I've always heard that they were uncontrollable monsters but I always knew that was horse pucky as most cars with RWD and decent torque and HP have the ability to get _frisky_ you just have to not be an idiot and learn to drive and upgrade those tires lol
Great video and absolutely love these Vipers!!! One of the very few truly Elite vehicles ever made with no autotragic trans option, and one that will always hold a special place in my heart. I cannot wait for an opportunity to drive one of these beasts! I miss the days of real driver skill, 3 pedals, raw power, and no traction control driver-aid BS!
That camera work which recorded the Viper crash was truly epic. The videographer is a real pro. The middle aged Dodge Viper driver looked totally deflated. 📹
Vipers are good to learn to drive on because it'd have enough torque to probably make it harder to stall.
Flipside is, in Europe learning in tiny engines, it's a bit more common to stall a lot more.
Then again, I'd love to drive a Viper lol
EDIT: I just saw the video...in the 90s it was a bonafide supercar, what MORE do you have to prove!
They are absolute peaches to get going from a stop. No throttle required.
@@mtnman1984 That sounds absolutely wonderful. Never driven a V8, really curious how that must be like coming from a completely dead BMW 1.6
@@Petrospect the viper is a v10 actually
Casey calling out everyone on Vinwiki one video at a time😂
Thanks for the great video Casey!
My Corolla daily has 185/65 R14 tyres on, and they're worn out. How do I find tyre in a compatible size that has nice handling characteristics without replacing the rims? The obvious option like Michelin PilotSport 4S's are not available for my rim size. I'm not expecting the best in the world, but I would love to find a stickier compound than my current budget Firestone tyres. Thanks!
Trying to get tires for a viper are next to impossible right now. I was told by a couple of shops that PS4 are currently on a 2 year wait. Any ideas where to got tires for 2006 stock wheels would be appreciated.
Modern day real life marty mcfly right here. Comes and goes as he wants
Nobody calls me chicken!
Great points made here. I've owned 4 early Vipers (2 in my garage now); one must always treat them with respect.
Great video Casey! When I got my 2001 sapphire rt10 last year it had tires from 2008 on it. IT was night and day when I put new tires on it.
Great video and great advice.
As a motorcycle rider I'm very aware about what you say about tires, because traction is a life or death thing there.
Keep up the videos man! Love the humor and always enjoy admiring your vipers
On the old tires I mentioned on your video about that subject my RX-8 when I bought it late 2020 was on the original Bridgestones from when it left the factory in 2008. They made it really easy to wag the tail. It got a new set of Michelins a couple days after I bought it. As for "dad of the car world" count it as practice ;)
I would say this video and the statement it makes applies to all modern muscle/sports cars. Know the risk of driving high hp cars like your on a race track when your on the open road. (anything over 300-350 hp is a lot of hp for an average driver in my eyes)
I had been in more than a handful of police chases growing up stolen cars/motorcycles/dirt bikes/atv and busting stunts in all of them……I’ve went hangliding and flew a plane and drive an 18 wheeler with no license;) 1x and used excavators etc.
That said I feel like a guy that can drive and I have a car with probably 500hp at this point or maybe 450-500 and I respect that shit.
Yes some cars they sell have 700-800 hp and more but that’s not my concern.
I think it’s a great decision to respect the car and not drive outside of your limits…..go to a huge empty parking lot and have fun.
My Uncle has had a 1st Gen from New, and always told me that once the rears light, it's hard to bring it back under control. Always keep that in mind when I'm driving it. Much different vehicle than my Z06's.
Great clip - thanks for uploading. Love my 2000 RT10 - that clip w/ the Integra hit home, don't want to be that guy!
Couple years ago a fella at work got a used STI. Of course he was excited and I was checking it out. I said, hey man you need to get tires especially before winter hits cuz these things are dry rotted.
I'll let your imagination finish the story...
old tires destroy so many rare cars every year
How often should I change my tires? Every 5 years?
I owned a '94 back in '96 and loved it. It was very hard car to drive remotely hard if you had wet tires. i.e. just washed or light rain. Once it started coming around only better drivers than I can catch it. Thanks for the video!
I saw several guys spin one as they shifted into 2nd gear at the Car and Driver 50th Anniversary party held at IRP in 2005. They were SCCA style parking lot pylon course racing the cars as well as a new Mustang and a new Mercedes SLK.
Anime Porn....lol, word you were looking for is Hentai. Lol, hilarious rant as always Casey.
You have to give old tires an Italian tune up in an open parking lot before swapping 😆
I've have a gen 3 viper, early one morning I took freeway interchange where the highway went from asphalt to cement, I was not not pushing the car but the grip went away and the backend walked out. Luckily I was able to save it. Totally agree, good rubber and respect of the power and be smart!
Thanks for another informative and helpful video 👍🏻
It's a forgotten attribute having torque in a real sports car to always pull you through any gear. It's such a shame cars like yours are being wrecked. It's such a lovely car all vipers.
I love it! Bought my 96 RT in 99, White, white wheels, by the time 2015 arrived had over 650 horse power, EVERYTHING was done to make it faster from ROE supercharger, 125 of nitrous. Tranny upgrade, half shafts etc. Raced it constantly never slide it or wrecked it. We go to the Viper club race at Houston speedway, The safety guy sits beside me and shows, tells me how to drive on the banked track. He gets upset the way Im driving and from the passenger seat grabs my wheel (doing over a hundred on the high bank right before the start and finish line, causes the car to spin around, Looks at me and says to get off the track! I looked at him and said " I told you, you couldn't do that with my lower geared rear end. His arrogance almost crashed me on the high wall. Casey like you said "know your car and its limitations'. and also know some yoyo professional driver sitting in the passenger side might end your Vipers day. Owned the car for 15 years, I miss it, sold it to a guy in the Dakotas.
Daaaaaang!
I started watching because i saw your blue viper, my ultimate dream car. So i started warching. Keep up the good work!
You didn't say it outright around the talk of "Did'ya think I was gonna' race that asshole?", but I think you are alluding to how being able to enjoy something to it doesn't mean you need to take it near its limits. I personally would treat some unusual compact car that catches my fancy, a classic car, and a rather quick car all the same way, get use out of it, but make it last.
That happened in Michigan in 2013. A Chrysler engineer was given a Viper for personal use. He got on it, entering a highway entrance ramp, and lost control. Chrysler stopped letting employees take a Viper home.
Kinda like when Yamaha introduced the V-Max. I went to the dealership to buy the first one they had. The first person that rode it crashed and killed himself.So I had to wait a month to buy a bike they wouldn't let me test drive.
Do you keep your cars on battery tenders?
I understand completely. I have the Nissan guys trying to race me in my BMW Z4 almost every time I drive around. 😮
I have an 86 e28 528e in flat black sparaypaint. And Around here for me it’s everybody, in everything wanting to race. It gets worse if I take my lowered 98 s10 out. Everyone “thinks” it’s LS swapped when in reality it still has the 4 cylinder in it. I can’t be left alone on the road no matter which one I choose to drive.
What’s the white car next to the blue viper?
Ya-know, some 303 and a thick piece of glass and those back tires might make a nice coffee table for the man cave. Recycle/Reuse. (inconsequential post to help with the algos)
I have a 94 RT 10 - After about two years of ownership when I got it with the old tires from the previous owner I got new tires and six months later I wrecked it while making a right turn. It was a little bit too much throttle on the second gear. with the new tires I somehow lost respect for the car as it was handling so much better than with the old crappy hard tires. Moral of the story never lose respect for a car like the viper.
Check the D.O.M. date of manufacture on new tires at tire shop.ive seen 7 year old tires on the shelf for sale as new.code reads yr.second # is the week it was made in that year.i hope this helps stop a crash.cheers.
The snake bit you
You can hear the guy in the video hits 2nd gear and the tires were spinning immediately. (It was hopping a bit) He didn’t lift at all and kept it WOT. Unfortunately it was inexperience and that sucks.
You're right about those cable barriers, I hate how many we have in ohio.
Also, I was at this meet, the viper he wrecked was late enough to have airbags thankfully for him. He was fine.
Had one of those "I'm hot stuff in my Civic with a fart can" kids pull up along side me once. He was just revving that little lawn mower for all it was worth. I was just minding my own business in my old 86 C4 Vette (ngl, it was kinda worn out... missing a muffler at the time too). He just kept hammering that throttle over and over again. I just laughed to myself, popped into neutral, and revved that 5.7 ONCE. Only the one time. Sounded like a busted race car lol. (Was in the prosses of fixing her up, but didn't have another car at the time.)
But it stopped the kid from revving the Civic. He looked over at my car, color kinda draining from his face as he did. Light turned green and I just put it back in gear and pulled away, smooth and steady... lol.
"You call that a rev? THIS is a rev"
Casey! How old is too old for tires? My Viper has rears from 2018 and fronts from 2016. Hope to see you at some Viper meets in MI sometime!
Uh dude you're probably fine
Those tires are older than I am, only by a couple of months tho, hopefully I'll own a viper someday! We'll have to see where this 944 takes me first
That’s why I bought a viper, love the fact that you can easily loose it and it’s on you to control that animal!
Bravo 👏👏 what is it with people that don't buy tires for their cars and then go out in the spring and can't figure out why they curb their car instantaneously
Tires are the weakest link besides the pea brain that some people have.
This video was so needed to be done!
i got to debute the second gen. i miss those days. tearing around rented air strips and football stadium parking lots.
I used to have a stupid front wheel drive acura integra but it looked a certain way that attracted a lot of attention. People wanted to race me light to light all the time. I would make noise, act like I was going to race them. Then putt away slowly. Meanwhile they're spinning tires getting pulled over by the cop they didn't see in the gas station parking lot.
are you in the columbus ohio area?
I subscribed for the Viper content, stayed here because you seem like you could be one of my friends. My ‘03 Viper I got last year still had its original tires dated ‘02/‘03. Good riddance to those.
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Bang bang bang fart can toy 🤣🤣🤣 Most accurate description of those cars that I've ever heard!
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I had dodge viper 1st gen model car since I was like 10, which is around -95. Now 29 years later I bought real one. Exactly same red 1st gen, it's waiting in another country for me to pick it up next week. Man this video gives me excitement 🎉
i own a 2000 and i have change the tires for the same reason ,big difference !! i drive my viper with respect every time. great video
I love Dodge Viper, I remember that there's an idiot who sends a Viper to a car crusher, I forgot why, but it's such waste though. I really how most of these idiots blame Vipers for the accident. Thanks for the video.
Good video, love your RT. Many people love the gen 2, but that gen 1 is pure 90s nostalgia.
I do the same while driving my '87 Turbo Buick...no need to race when I've already won. Good advice.
I think that people don't change the tires on their early Vipers is because it's really hard to find the right size or they don't make this size anymore. 😔
Something tells me you have done a tiny little bit more street racing than you are willing to admit now that you're OLD!! BTW I'm as old as you! Thanks for the reminder not to be an idiot lol. But let's both admit it...beating a guy in a fart can car is a hell of a lot of fun!! Lol
*cough*RobPitts*cough* 🤣🤣🤣
I may have just started one of Rob's videos after finishing Casey's LOL
Having old and low grip tires changes the behavior of the car during a slide? In my vison, if you know how to drive, you can catch a slide the same way, either with dry rotted or new tires, the thing is that you lose grip at a lower speed with the old ones.
The viper is sitting in the Copart parking lot near the back off spring pike. I would love to know how he got his insurance company to pay for that one.
The intro was perfection 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I like how you explained how you drive a viper and are able to attract a mate with it. Best listen in because if you destroy your viper she's definitely leaving you for the next best thing
He’s back in the lab!! Great video, Casey.
AS SOOOOOON as i saw this in my feed i was like oh he probably saw the video lmaooo
Absolutely wonderful rant Casey I may have hurt myself I laughed so hard great job bye-bye
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How'd you get that Stratos Concept Car in the background?😍🤩
I made it. Search my channel
3/12/22 i Brought my 1st gen 3 2005 Dodge Viper 🐍 SRT10 Roadster & i love it. it's 1 of 2 of my dream cars....
My next car is going to be the upcoming Honda Civic Type R. I am still subscribed to your channel :)
My lord brother, time to pass around the "offering" plate lmao :D
great show and very well explained thank you ( Nick from Sydney Australia
I had 10 year old tires on my 2003 Mustang GT. Not the fastest car, but it would spin so easy and the tires had maybe 3,000 miles on them. No rot and a ton of tread. Night and day difference with new tires on each corner
My dad owns a viper and every time he sees one get wrecked on the internet all he can say is "Mine just keeps going up in value" lol
Viper GTS is my childhood favorite car
In my youth I was known to take my moms 98 Mustang GT (an automatic) and neutral drop it to do burnouts in my Highschool parking Lot. Yea I was an idiot. Ended up snapping the rear control arm in half lighting the tires up in the rain and losing it and smashing into a curb. Could have been way worse but I didn't drive the car much after that.
That the one that was in Rossford? It looks to be
Yup, the area anyway
@@CaseyPutsch yea my buddy lived next to that doctor
9:07 the Rabbit reference is good
Im about a month away from buying a gen 1 Viper. Your gen 1 is beautiful, Im jealous.
This was awesome! I think young guys need to hear someone like you tell them what's up. You can't reason with them you have to call them out. Well done.
I'll take red one. You remind me of Joel Zimmerman a little. Glad to see someone like you with my favorite car. I own like 15 as a kid but just a lot smaller.
Saw that video. Glad it made it to him. Thought about Casey when I saw it. Another one gone.
The age of tires thing is definitely true.... my 95's tires are damn near 20 years old... getting changed this month though
I decided to take driving lessons at Ron Fellows driving school, when I bought my ZO6. Even though I have driven a stick for over 50 years, I decided I needed it. I also have had other on track lessons. I don’t do stupid things on the street. There are morons out everywhere. You are so right to mention tire age. I know I don’t have a Viper, but it’s the same premise.
Bout to cop a viper JUST to wreck it...I wanna see how great it feels, thats obviously y everybody doing it!!
*what car is that @**0:23**, I looks like some concept*
that rt/10 is my top car, every since the viper tv series.
some updates on the top gun bike would be cool or maybe a ride-along video.
Kool bro love vipers first saw my first one in the flesh in new Zealand 1996 at the launch of Chrysler and dodge Jeep Cherokees
That viper is at Copart as you speak, seen it yesterday
Honda guy here, subbed
Aww man and i was looking forward to that race too.
It’s just one of those cars that’ll bite back if you don’t drive it properly.
I thought of the video of that old man who wrecked his into a street lamp right before I clicked on this video 😂