Your videos never disappoint👏🏻 I like that you guys weren’t being biased (not blatantly saying everything is perfectly delicious) with your opinions and I’m sure your audiences will appreciate your honesty👍🏻
The white truffle risotto was so expensive you could buy another Michelin starred restaurant experience, haha! Thank you for the video always, looking forwards to another video.
That was a very accurate presentation of the dining experience at Per Sé. I also appreciated your rating of the supplements and why. Very useful for my next visit. I enjoyed the experience thoroughly.
I appreciate the critical approach unlike previous videos where always everything seemed great..(even gods deserve critique).also commentary feature is appreciated
Thanks! We usually go to a restaurant several times before we make a RUclips video, and therefore, most of our videos show places we wholeheartedly recommend. Per Se was so expensive and difficult to book that we wanted to shoot a video when we had the chance. The meal ended up being less amazing than we had hoped, and even more expensive, so we figured that would make for an interesting video in another way.
@@andersandkaitlin thanks for reply, I am big fan and watching all videos of yours, you do great job but criticism is new important element, it is difficult to do it psychologically considering what hard work is behind it, but that's the way, I also believe that lots of fine dinning places are BS..and honest food is really only in fracture of them, detailed description/evaluation of each or signature single dishes is good way to go ...by the way, take me with you sometimes 😄 looking forward to upgraded new style of videos
@@black6master Appreciate that! And you should join our food community, The Hungries. We meet up with and dine with our members all over the world! andershusa.com/the-hungries/
I have enjoyed numerous Michelin starred experiences over the past 30 years in my country of residence Belgium but also in my native The Netherlands as well as in France and Germany. Most of our meals in top restaurants cost a fraction of what I saw in your vid and although it's not difficult to spend similar amounts of money in top restaurants, especially in Paris, Berlin or London, we usually avoid such places because I'm simply not prepared to pay so much money knowing I can eat something maybe a bit less fancy but equally delicious for much less. And it's not what I can afford but what I want to pay for good food. Nearby my town of residence is a 1 star Michelin place where the tasting menu costs 80 euro. A classically trained chef serves tasty dishes made with first class ingredients. The wine pairing comes in at 30 euro but the menu price leaves enough space in the budget to splurge on a good bottle. My wife have been dining there with our kids on every occasion worth celebrating the last five years and we were never disappointed. And I would have left there and then, had the waiter asked me if I wanted any "upgrades"! What kind of question is that??? Maybe that's normal in the US (where my father lived, we've been over to visit them and do holidays there at least 15 times) but in normal places in Europe it's simply unheard of and felt as "pushy" by customers. Conclusion: interesting to see what Per Se has to offer but I don't expect to dine there anytime soon!
We felt the same, but it's apparently quite common in some high-end restaurants where the customers simply have too much money, and maybe less knowledge. It's more about dining at the "right" place rather than the best place.
I was feeling uncomfortable when the restaurant asked for “upgrades”. It would ruin your entire experience knowing that your were just having the “basic” without ordering upgrades. Also with the individual upgrades for individual prices it feels like you are in a farmer’s market bargaining with the seller throughout your meal.
ive been asked for upgrades for all of the places ive been too in NYC (trying my first EU michelin one on Thurs, will see if its any different). I dont see it as pushy though. I think most of the NYC guys use it as a way to test out new dishes for when they’re thinking of changing one of the courses on the tasting menu. 80€ is an insane deal for a tasting menu though gj on that, all the ones ive seen personally in NY and europe were im the 110-140 range (euro/dollar’s about equal now so its the same in both) I know a guy who worked at this restaurant, and he agrees that there isnt that big a difference between the michelin one star and three star restaurants - definitely not enough of a difference to justify triple or quadruple price
Glad you liked it! You'll likely see more commentary in the future, but we might also do other types of videos. Some with chefs interviews, some with commentary, some with just music. Depends on the mood, really. :D
Those little comments truly top-up the video. Perfect improvement. Especially those few remarks that pleasantly calibrate it all with a pinch of sarcasm. It really makes the laboratory over-seriousness of the contemporary fine food scene more fun, and down-to-earth, so to speak. Well done! I mean .. medium rarely done!
@@andersandkaitlin in your opinion would you recommend per se or Stone Barns at Blue Hill? Trying to get a reservation for either next month as an anniversary gift. Leaning more toward Blue Hill as it’s alittle more unique then the traditional michelin star restaurants.
No matter the total cost of a restaurant bill, it's unfortunate when you spend a lot of money, (especially on upgrades), and walk away not feeling completely satisfied. The desserts did look really tasty though.
Your video just came across to me and enjoyed a lot! Thank you. I have few questions. If you can answer, it would be super. I wonder if you prearranged it for shooting. Second, If you use flashlight during the dining in dining room cause video looks really high quality. Thank you!
@@andersandkaitlin yes. A part from the cornets and the caviar dish, that I think never will leave the menu, everything had. Even the butter service is different now...oh the cappuccino semifreddo we used to have back then too, with the donut
You guys made me cry on this one. Nice to see Chad on the pass, he used to me my sous chef at the Commis kitchen back then. But I must say the menu when I worked there was superior
Comparing this to some of the 1-2 star meals I've had in Europe, it feels like Michelin gives out stars way easier in America. You could have an amazing tasting menu here for the price of just that truffle risotto!
That's true. The risotto was insane. I think the entire price is the white truffle, which they were generous with, but still. We wanted more risotto on the plate to go with it.
I'm European and honestly I have never seen a Michelin star restaurant except for when I was on vacation. Is it really that cheap? I thought prices would be horrendous.
I Liked your explanation to every course and the whole Video at all...but i dont agree with the comment that NYC is behind the modern world...why must be everything Like in Europe,scandinavia or spain etc.??? Iam working since 26 years in the Gourmet cuisines and Thomas Keller is a Classic orientated cuisiner...pure,No Chichi,Just amazing taste...is it Not the countless Numbers of various Restaurant types ,which gives the whole gastronomy universe the shape ? Bon Appetite
They used to offer an extended menu… don’t know if they still do. It’s twice the length of their regular menu and lasts 5 hours. I had it six years ago for a career milestone celebration and I still remember it vividly to this day.
@@andersandkaitlin I remember when I got there and as the maitre d' walked me down the long corridor to my table, he kept whispering "Don't eat the bread... don't eat the bread". Implying that if I wanted to get through the five hours, that I shouldn't fill up fast. But there's no way I'm skipping anything while I'm at Per Se! And then about 1/3 into the meal, as the maitre d' and servers checked on me individually (I dined solo)... one of them asked "Are you doing okay? We're still in amuse-bouches land... we're not even in mains yet." Thanks for the heads-up. 😀
I’ve had some REALLY expensive meals but damn, $180 for truffle risotto is next level. I’ve had some incredibly good whole tasting menu meals for less than that price 😂
I get that everything is top quality and that all of what you've shown is, no doubt, made with a lot of effort. But for more than 700 dollars I would expect decently generous portions and perhaps some zing to the experience. This doesn't really get me excited. Then again, who am I to talk, I'm nerdy dude on a phone on a bus that can't even go to a restaurant. Reeeeeeeeeeee
The concept is kinda like how you get into a cold swimming pool, the initial shock or jolt is what the small portions are about. You want to be left with wanting another bite of something incredible and then bam, another incredible dish starts the process all over again.
It’s not only the effort, everything is made fresh every day, the leftovers from last day get thrown away (not litterally everything but most) The amount of staff, is 3 a 4 times more then for simpler and bigger restaurants. Plates and glasses are usually very expensive, think about 100$+ a piece for a plate, if there is even a small dent on it, it gets thrown away And another crucial thing, the products being used. Have the feeling that most have no idea what it costs. Tuna, foie gras(gooseliver), white truffle, wagyu, and many other expensive stuff. All that they use is expensive, from just a spice, herb to animals and delicacy’s. White truffle is plus minus 2000$ a kg at the moment. The tuna dish not worth the upgrade? There was big ass quennele of caviar on it, and the tuna, you can be sure it’s no ordinary tuna. The caviar on the first dish was also generous Like I said, white truffle is very very expensive, also generous on the plate, but not enough rice 😑 Wagyu, many types of regions and farms, the one is more expensive then the other, depending on quality, plus you have a lot of waste before you can even start portioning the cuts to sell, that’s why wagyu is so expensive in a restaurant. Foie gras, risotto, wagyu, very fatty and heavy products, with 7+ menu, yes you have to control the portions, or else most won’t make it to the end, most of those restaurants have 10+ menus, some even 20 dish menu
And also, you don’t go to those restaurants to get your belly full. You have other restaurants for that. It’s a experience to go to a place like that, from the moment you walk in, being guided to the table, the service, the well thought out menu of the chef, the creativity in the dish, the flavours and you may expect also the perfect combinations, wine as well food. Food that’s being prepared with a lot of knowledge to get the very best out of it. Every single detail that they can think of is being put in a plate and in the restaurant. No, it’s not about getting your belly full, no lol On a personal note, some people should pay attention to how much they eat on a daily basis, many are way passed the amount of food that they need. This plays also a role in why people don’t get this restaurants, different mentality.
I was at Per Se a couple of years ago (sept 2019) and I felt disappointed. 3 stars should be worth the journey, as stated by Michelin, but my experience was not in line with that statement. Service was good but I can't share your opinion. Professional yes but warmth .... Dishes looked promising but i was never overwhelmed by any of them and none of them were surprising. If i compare it vis a vis the Spanish or Belgian top restaurants then either they need to revisit the star allocation or give the European restaurants even more accolades. For the amount of money paid you should have a special experience and it didn't materialize. It might be 3 stars in the USA but not in Europe. i would advise Thomas Keller to go and visit El Celler Can Roca, Noma, Geranium, de Librije, Hof van Cleve, ... to experience genuine 3 stars. Maybe his other restaurant can live up to the expectation but Per Se definetely not. Thanks for your high quality video's by the way.
I feel exactly the same watching this video, even if my only reference point is Guy Savoy as 3 star experience. In Italy we have 1 star restaurant like Arborina or Lido84 providing outstanding experience for 100-150€ range per person which seem a bargain compared to this
We ate at le Bernadin this past year, and although its a wonderful experience. For normal working class people, forking over a $1000 and up for a meal is almost criminal. Sure a wonderful wine arrangement and unmatched hospitality are amazing to experience as you feel like a millionaire or a celebrity for a night. But if you, just like you guys, are familiar with the world of fine dining, you know that there are restaurants that offer similar experiences for a lot less money. The profit margins on the plates are beyond extreme and although I get that you pay for perfection in ingredients and execution, there is a point of diminishing returns. Plus at any NYC restaurant you pay for the fact that you eat in NYC cause everything in this city seems to be more expensive then the exact same thing somewhere else. If we ever hit the lottery we'll try all of them. If you make tons of money and you can afford it regularly , good for you. But if you work a 9 to 5 you will need to save up for this and you can do it a couple times in your life time. Makes it special though!!
It definitely feels like NYC comes at a premium. One could hope that the prices are high so that they can pay their staff a living wage and have people work normal hours, but I somehow doubt that's the case...
@@andersandkaitlin yup hopefully they pay their employees well, it definitely is a high stress environment where everyone has to be at the top of their game day in, day out
There are 3 Michelin star restaurants costing half the price and looks much better than this over indulgence just because they can. Michelin handing out stars like they're cupcakes
This is a refreshing review compared to others that seem to glamorize the experience to the point of incredulity, that it may really be an overhyped money grab. I've wondered if there's a little psychology going on that causes a need to believe it's better than it really is just because I'm gonna need to sell a kidney when I'm done to pay for this thing. Lol. I love this review and the occasional hints of sarcasm swirled in.
There might definitely be some psychology at play for some people, wanting to defend the money they already spent. We dine so regularly that we are able to distinguish good from bad, regardless of the price, I think!
My favorite restaurant in New York is Mission Ceviche on 72nd between 2nd and 1st. Go there for lunch and get some ceviches, super light, quick and the BEST place for me. Such a great atmosphere and true Peruvian cuisine. The dishes I'd recommend are: Classic Ceviche, Yellowfin Tartare, Hamachi Tiridto (Must have), The Avechado is good but then you HAVE to get the Scallops in parmesan and the Arscoz Paella dish. Also such great mixed drinks, get the mojito and at the end of the meal ask for a VIP Shot with either the orange and purple liquid ;). By the way, my beef with these michelin restaurants is that at a point, it's really hard to get so much better. Sure, some bites are incredible, but they're just bites. I think it's a fun experience if you have the money, but really, places like Mission Ceviche are just as good for a FRACTION of the price.
I've been to almost all of the Michelin star restaurants in NYC, Per Se was a very wonderful experience, I hope that you went to their kitchen, they have a live stream to the French Laundry in LA. But for the record, out of the many other Michelin star options, Per Se is low on the list honestly
@@andersandkaitlin yeah, that's why I don't go there often, there are much better options out there, here are a few places for your future videos if you are interested. Daniel Rezdora Gabriel Kreuther Jean George Le Bernardin Aska Eleven Madison Park (which is a similar experience to Per Se)
@@ahmedalshaiba9185 Daniel was actually Kaitlin's first fine dining experience ever. I still haven't been, so hope to go one day. We had booked Rezdora this trip, but ended up canceling because we heard a lot of mixed reviews. Do you still love EMP after the move to vegan? As for Aska, there might be a video coming! ;)
@@andersandkaitlin Honestly each restaurant has the good and the bad, as for EMP, I haven't been there since they have changed their menu, but even before it was a similar experience to Per Se, good food with nice wine pairing, but nothing wow. regarding Rezdora I would definitely advise you to go there, if you love high quality hand made pasta with depth in the flavor, this is the place, I met with the owners and I can help you get a table of you couldn't find a reservation, the food is a Michelin star quality, for the experience, service and plating they want it to be neighborhood friendly so it's more accessible to people, so it might not be the ideal place for filming for your videos, but it's definitely worth the visit. And for Daniel the food is cooked with heart, you can feel it and taste it, nothing complicated, just good food, he opened a new restaurant Le Pavillon, I would say don't go there, at least not yet, it's a mess, the food and the menu had no vision, they haven't found their path yet, even the wine pairing was a hit or miss. And for Aska, I loved the food, but it was the only restaurant that when I was done eating there, I went to another restaurant right after because I was still hungry, but I still liked it
The price on the white truffle upgrade is absurd. A few years ago I had the white truffle tasting at babbo for a similar price as the upgrade alone and that was 4 or 5 dishes of fresh shaved white truffles. Yea I expect a few premiums for being per se but that’s a bit much.
It definitely felt extremely pricy compred to a lot of other dining experiences we've had. Per Se seems to have a certain target audience of super rich diners that will pay anything.
The attractive restaurant and the Michelin meals were excellent. Very expensive in NYC. I remember I ate in Singapore at the Michelin star restaurant in winter 2018. Didn't remember the name of the restaurant and was closed one year later. Small portions and expensive prices. The truffle risotto at this restaurant was outrageous. I ate the truffle risotto in Bellagio, Italy (Lake Como) was much better and cheap. It was around summer 2018 or 2019
Fine dining . looks interesting ,an expensive but it Soo little food , .I do my own cooking since 8 year old ,never had fast food ,I'm 40 an never been in McDonald's nor any pizza store ever.il learn these recipes an fine tune it to my taste 😁😁
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How do you compare this experience to Jean-Georges and Eleven Madison Park? I want to try one of those but not sure which one is the best in terms of price/experience. Thank you for the video!
We have not been to the vegan EMP, but before that it was better. Per Se might be slightly better than Jean-Georges, but haven't been there in years, so hard to say. Honestly, not sure we can recommend any of them, haha. Updating our New York guide on our blog soon with all our favorites! Just spent three weeks eating all over town.
Seeing the supplementary menu along with what was given in the normal tasting was disappointing to see due to it just being a copy and paste of French Laundry basic tasting menu items, This should’ve been a cutting edge experience but seeing what you were given is upsetting seeing how it’s not innovative or exciting just … safe. Thank you for sharing your non biased experience as now I can see this is a standard wagyu, truffle, and foie gras michelin restaurant
700 plus dollars ???? are the wines included for that price ??? For me the best chefs are in Spain and Holland . There is a chef in Barcelona and one in Denia you should visit and encounter a 22 course fine dining meal with wines for the halt of the price in New york !!!!
$725 for just the food for one person. Which Barcelona chef are you referring to? I have been to Quique Dacosta in Denia. Here is my video from eating there: ruclips.net/video/-g0F92XosX8/видео.html And here is my video from cooking with him: ruclips.net/video/l6TCyrFmGxU/видео.html
@@andersandkaitlin yes for Denia Quique Dacosta and yes what a great chef and talent !!! For me one of the best I had around the world !!! In Barcelona you have Abac , also a great house and one of my all favorites!!!! But 700 plus dollars and no wines ??? I am Open to pay for unique experience but for New York I will pass and prefer a good steak just for 100 usd 😉
should definitely try chefs table at brooklyn fare instead of perse lol the portion at perse has always looked like a joke and their pricing is even more of a joke than their portioning 😆
We did Chef's Table at Brooklyn Fare on the same trip! They don't allow any videography. The food was at a higher level, but the service was not. Not too impressed with fine dining in New York, to be honest.
@@andersandkaitlin ah thats right! i forgot cesar doesnt allow videograhing haha but yeah, i really love their food, and i dont think anyone in the US can make food better than him! that said, i think also think their service is just ok. for nyc, i think ctbf is a must visit if one can afford it! i moved back to asia in 2019 so i wasnt able to visit atomix, so i am very interested in going back to nyc to try it! have you dined there? lotta hype around it too (also jont in dc - the hype part)
@@jks15jkhaha2 I like Atomix, and Kaitlin liked it even more. It's a different style of restaurant. Definitely in that space between one and two stars, whereas the food at Per Se was closer to one star. The food at Chef's Table at Brooklyn Fare was closer to two, but not quite there for us either. Some dishes were big misses. Our best meal at a fine dining restaurant in the U.S. so far is Addison in San Diego! Strong two-star. We wanna go to Jont!
Yes, everything looks good, and expensive it was. But all the food came out in such a small portion, do not know if you were full after all that food 😬
We were ok after this meal. Have been more full, but don't know if it's necessarily a goal to feel stuffed. We did feel like the bread serving was rather small, though.
Jules Verne in Eiffel Tower is about as pricey as I've gotten. But this place is nuts in comparison. This may have passed into "Charge a lot just b/c we can" territory. Ironically, the most expensive dish, the truffles, is the only plate where the price can be justified.
I've been to a few Michelin star restaurants .....what I can say is have a good lunch beforehand else you will need a pizza after. Miniature food I don't think is my style but ok to try 1 time (more than ok if I'm not paying)
@@andersandkaitlin I say :) at USD750 is a minimum requirement. But me I'm a peasant sort of customer, I like the small restaurant tucked away in the Vieux Port in Marseille, brings you the catch of the day on a bed of crips sweet romaine....
@@AT-cy7im European is very broad. We live in Copenhagen which has an amazing food scene. Our favorite restaurant in the world is Frantzén in Stockholm!
Honestly? I don't like the idea of having the "price" of something continuously presented from the Restaurant in this case. For example the risotto (x: this is our risotto. Which is really good, but you want the better version of something we should've already elevated? well, add 100 bucks) At this point, dishes could be compared to art and it's just wrong to judge something by the price. It should be something clear at the start and thought about only after the meal, not throughout said meal.
WOW! After that miniscule set menu I'll bet you got a couple gyros on the street at $10 each! I didn't see anything so, so special especially the upgraded dish, LOL! Yes, that was a waste of money! Per Se not the only game in town! Your money would be better spent elsewhere.
Depends on what you're in the mood for. I love gyros, burgers, etc....but I also understand tasting menus. Theyare designed to serve you, for m any, once in a lifetime meals on the law if diminishing returns. If you have money, and e joy this type of meal...per se is one of the best dining experiences in the world.
Have to agree with you. Definitely more of a one star level when it comes to the food alone, compared to most two and three stars we've visited. The service was at a three star level.
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Given my experiences worldwide, Per Se is closer to a lower tier 2 star restaurant at best, if it wasn’t Keller, it would have not gotten 3 stars… a shame to be honest. The dishes looked quite standard, at times a it boring. But if you enjoyed it, it’s all that matters.
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Haha, true!
Your videos never disappoint👏🏻 I like that you guys weren’t being biased (not blatantly saying everything is perfectly delicious) with your opinions and I’m sure your audiences will appreciate your honesty👍🏻
Thank you so much! And glad you like our videos.
The white truffle risotto was so expensive you could buy another Michelin starred restaurant experience, haha!
Thank you for the video always, looking forwards to another video.
Lol, our thoughts exactly!
This video convinced me to eat at home for $5.
Great success, then!
@@andersandkaitlin hahaha! Indeed.
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That was a very accurate presentation of the dining experience at Per Sé. I also appreciated your rating of the supplements and why. Very useful for my next visit. I enjoyed the experience thoroughly.
Glad it was helpful!
I appreciate the critical approach unlike previous videos where always everything seemed great..(even gods deserve critique).also commentary feature is appreciated
Thanks! We usually go to a restaurant several times before we make a RUclips video, and therefore, most of our videos show places we wholeheartedly recommend. Per Se was so expensive and difficult to book that we wanted to shoot a video when we had the chance. The meal ended up being less amazing than we had hoped, and even more expensive, so we figured that would make for an interesting video in another way.
@@andersandkaitlin thanks for reply, I am big fan and watching all videos of yours, you do great job but criticism is new important element, it is difficult to do it psychologically considering what hard work is behind it, but that's the way, I also believe that lots of fine dinning places are BS..and honest food is really only in fracture of them, detailed description/evaluation of each or signature single dishes is good way to go ...by the way, take me with you sometimes 😄 looking forward to upgraded new style of videos
@@black6master Appreciate that! And you should join our food community, The Hungries. We meet up with and dine with our members all over the world! andershusa.com/the-hungries/
@@andersandkaitlin thanks I will have a look
I like your honest evaluation of the experience!
Always!
I have enjoyed numerous Michelin starred experiences over the past 30 years in my country of residence Belgium but also in my native The Netherlands as well as in France and Germany. Most of our meals in top restaurants cost a fraction of what I saw in your vid and although it's not difficult to spend similar amounts of money in top restaurants, especially in Paris, Berlin or London, we usually avoid such places because I'm simply not prepared to pay so much money knowing I can eat something maybe a bit less fancy but equally delicious for much less. And it's not what I can afford but what I want to pay for good food. Nearby my town of residence is a 1 star Michelin place where the tasting menu costs 80 euro. A classically trained chef serves tasty dishes made with first class ingredients. The wine pairing comes in at 30 euro but the menu price leaves enough space in the budget to splurge on a good bottle. My wife have been dining there with our kids on every occasion worth celebrating the last five years and we were never disappointed. And I would have left there and then, had the waiter asked me if I wanted any "upgrades"! What kind of question is that??? Maybe that's normal in the US (where my father lived, we've been over to visit them and do holidays there at least 15 times) but in normal places in Europe it's simply unheard of and felt as "pushy" by customers. Conclusion: interesting to see what Per Se has to offer but I don't expect to dine there anytime soon!
We felt the same, but it's apparently quite common in some high-end restaurants where the customers simply have too much money, and maybe less knowledge. It's more about dining at the "right" place rather than the best place.
I was feeling uncomfortable when the restaurant asked for “upgrades”. It would ruin your entire experience knowing that your were just having the “basic” without ordering upgrades. Also with the individual upgrades for individual prices it feels like you are in a farmer’s market bargaining with the seller throughout your meal.
@@jz4057 exactly!
@@andersandkaitlin Restaurants like this. I get why sometimes Europeans look down on American as having too much money, not enough culture. 😂
ive been asked for upgrades for all of the places ive been too in NYC (trying my first EU michelin one on Thurs, will see if its any different).
I dont see it as pushy though. I think most of the NYC guys use it as a way to test out new dishes for when they’re thinking of changing one of the courses on the tasting menu. 80€ is an insane deal for a tasting menu though gj on that, all the ones ive seen personally in NY and europe were im the 110-140 range (euro/dollar’s about equal now so its the same in both)
I know a guy who worked at this restaurant, and he agrees that there isnt that big a difference between the michelin one star and three star restaurants - definitely not enough of a difference to justify triple or quadruple price
Superb video ❤️
I'm getting used to with your no-commentary videos, so this is kind of surprised.
Glad you liked it! You'll likely see more commentary in the future, but we might also do other types of videos. Some with chefs interviews, some with commentary, some with just music. Depends on the mood, really. :D
Great video~ Thanks
to me, chef's table at Brooklyn fare was amazing~
The food there was at a higher level, yes.
What a beautiful in depth glimpse of the full dinner! My favorite dish will always be oysters and pearls!
We agree! :)
great video, shares the atmosphere and the dishes at Per Se in a wonderful way!
Glad to hear that!
Those little comments truly top-up the video. Perfect improvement. Especially those few remarks that pleasantly calibrate it all with a pinch of sarcasm. It really makes the laboratory over-seriousness of the contemporary fine food scene more fun, and down-to-earth, so to speak.
Well done! I mean .. medium rarely done!
Thanks for that feedback! Means a lot.
Love your channel. Gives everyone a taste of what to except
Glad to hear!
So AWESOME THANKS FOR SHARING
Thanks for watching!
This video is the only positive one I have seen about NY and actually made me want to visit again, despite all the news. That's an accomplishment.
You need to look harder
Just scored a reservation for next week! Really looking forward to it!
Congrats!
Gorgeous plates and cutlery
Beautiful!
I was at Per Se many years ago (2008). Had the lunch menu. It was pretty good, but not spectacular. I'd go back and try again, though.
Sounds about right.
Very similar dishes to what we had at the French Laundry which makes sense with both being Thomas Kellar restaurants.
Yup!
@@andersandkaitlin in your opinion would you recommend per se or Stone Barns at Blue Hill? Trying to get a reservation for either next month as an anniversary gift. Leaning more toward Blue Hill as it’s alittle more unique then the traditional michelin star restaurants.
@@JT-zy2ft Can we say neither? Haha. They didn't really impress us. Have you considered Aska in stead?
@@andersandkaitlin no I haven’t though I have seen multiple videos on the restaurant and chef. Will check it.
the commentary is an amazing addition! great video as always guys
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing! Per Se looks like quite an experience. Your videos are always wonderful and honest. Love your work!
Thank you so much!
That is very expensive. Great video and nice to hear your thoughts. .
Thanks for watching!
No matter the total cost of a restaurant bill, it's unfortunate when you spend a lot of money, (especially on upgrades), and walk away not feeling completely satisfied. The desserts did look really tasty though.
So true! And yes, the desserts were fun.
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Your video just came across to me and enjoyed a lot! Thank you. I have few questions. If you can answer, it would be super. I wonder if you prearranged it for shooting. Second, If you use flashlight during the dining in dining room cause video looks really high quality. Thank you!
Thanks! Not pre-arranged and we never use flash. The video quality is all thanks to Sony A7iii - great camera for darker settings.
@@andersandkaitlin thank you for your answer! What a great camera! I assume you asked kitchen tour after the meal then. :)
@@bkny They offered it to us!
@@andersandkaitlin cool! Thank you for the details! Have a good day.
This hits home
I worked at Per Se for one year. Was the best year of my life. But im talking about 2015/16
Cool! Has the menu changed a lot?
@@andersandkaitlin yes. A part from the cornets and the caviar dish, that I think never will leave the menu, everything had. Even the butter service is different now...oh the cappuccino semifreddo we used to have back then too, with the donut
@@IlGattoGialloCucina Good to know. Thanks! :)
That's the year they lost a star.....you made them lose a staaaaar
Whoa, holy shit. I had to go get my second monocle to watch this.
Haha!
Very helpful thanks
Glad it helped!
Looks great! Thanks for another great video! Funny thing is that perse means ass in finnish 😁
Haha! XD
Great video!
Thanks!
@ 1:44 do those prices include a diamond mine and an oil well?
Haha, of course!
me eating frozen food while watching this
Haha, hope it's some delicious Costco corn dogs!
You guys made me cry on this one. Nice to see Chad on the pass, he used to me my sous chef at the Commis kitchen back then.
But I must say the menu when I worked there was superior
Wish we had tasted it back then!
What cameras did you use and was the staff ok with you taping?
Sony A7iii. The staff was delighted with us taping. :)
The most expensive place in NY - "wOuLd yOu lIkE tO UpGrAdE?"
The cheek of them lol
Haha, I know! XD
Really enjoyed the editing on this; subscribed!
Awesome. Thanks for the sub!
amazing video. the only one disturbing was, that the salat wasn't on the center of the plate. It looks like they forgot something.
Haha, yes, it was almost comical the way they served it.
Comparing this to some of the 1-2 star meals I've had in Europe, it feels like Michelin gives out stars way easier in America. You could have an amazing tasting menu here for the price of just that truffle risotto!
That's true. The risotto was insane. I think the entire price is the white truffle, which they were generous with, but still. We wanted more risotto on the plate to go with it.
I agree with. Keller could put his name on anything and get 3 stars in a 5 years though haha
@@andersandkaitlin slap truffles in everything u get Michelin stars .
@@kenfern2259 Probz doesn't hurt.
I'm European and honestly I have never seen a Michelin star restaurant except for when I was on vacation. Is it really that cheap? I thought prices would be horrendous.
seems like New York is a decade behind from Scandinavia and some of Europe. all might be tasty but overall feel is like, they have a catching up to do
Definitely!
I Liked your explanation to every course and the whole Video at all...but i dont agree with the comment that NYC is behind the modern world...why must be everything Like in Europe,scandinavia or spain etc.???
Iam working since 26 years in the Gourmet cuisines and Thomas Keller is a Classic orientated cuisiner...pure,No Chichi,Just amazing taste...is it Not the countless Numbers of various Restaurant types ,which gives the whole gastronomy universe the shape ? Bon Appetite
Thomas Keller is the REAL DEAL
No disrespect for Keller. :)
It was interesting to see.
Glad you enjoyed!
LMAO @ The Jefferson's sunset intro in Central Park
Glad you liked it. ;)
They used to offer an extended menu… don’t know if they still do. It’s twice the length of their regular menu and lasts 5 hours. I had it six years ago for a career milestone celebration and I still remember it vividly to this day.
Cool. Was it twice the price?
@@andersandkaitlin Yes. And the super lux ingredients (like white truffles) were extra.
@@gumption76 crazy!
@@andersandkaitlin I remember when I got there and as the maitre d' walked me down the long corridor to my table, he kept whispering "Don't eat the bread... don't eat the bread". Implying that if I wanted to get through the five hours, that I shouldn't fill up fast. But there's no way I'm skipping anything while I'm at Per Se!
And then about 1/3 into the meal, as the maitre d' and servers checked on me individually (I dined solo)... one of them asked "Are you doing okay? We're still in amuse-bouches land... we're not even in mains yet." Thanks for the heads-up. 😀
@@gumption76 Haha, funny!
Brought out 3 plates for that tiny little green thing 😂. What’s that like 200 bucks
They can have it.😅💸
I’ve had some REALLY expensive meals but damn, $180 for truffle risotto is next level. I’ve had some incredibly good whole tasting menu meals for less than that price 😂
The same for us! Haha.
$180 extra, mind you…
I get that everything is top quality and that all of what you've shown is, no doubt, made with a lot of effort. But for more than 700 dollars I would expect decently generous portions and perhaps some zing to the experience. This doesn't really get me excited. Then again, who am I to talk, I'm nerdy dude on a phone on a bus that can't even go to a restaurant. Reeeeeeeeeeee
In this case, we agree!
The concept is kinda like how you get into a cold swimming pool, the initial shock or jolt is what the small portions are about. You want to be left with wanting another bite of something incredible and then bam, another incredible dish starts the process all over again.
@@GadgetGuru-r4w and 7+ courses are hard to get through with larger portions
It’s not only the effort, everything is made fresh every day, the leftovers from last day get thrown away (not litterally everything but most)
The amount of staff, is 3 a 4 times more then for simpler and bigger restaurants.
Plates and glasses are usually very expensive, think about 100$+ a piece for a plate, if there is even a small dent on it, it gets thrown away
And another crucial thing, the products being used. Have the feeling that most have no idea what it costs.
Tuna, foie gras(gooseliver), white truffle, wagyu, and many other expensive stuff. All that they use is expensive, from just a spice, herb to animals and delicacy’s.
White truffle is plus minus 2000$ a kg at the moment.
The tuna dish not worth the upgrade? There was big ass quennele of caviar on it, and the tuna, you can be sure it’s no ordinary tuna.
The caviar on the first dish was also generous
Like I said, white truffle is very very expensive, also generous on the plate, but not enough rice 😑
Wagyu, many types of regions and farms, the one is more expensive then the other, depending on quality, plus you have a lot of waste before you can even start portioning the cuts to sell, that’s why wagyu is so expensive in a restaurant.
Foie gras, risotto, wagyu, very fatty and heavy products, with 7+ menu, yes you have to control the portions, or else most won’t make it to the end, most of those restaurants have 10+ menus, some even 20 dish menu
And also, you don’t go to those restaurants to get your belly full.
You have other restaurants for that.
It’s a experience to go to a place like that, from the moment you walk in, being guided to the table, the service, the well thought out menu of the chef, the creativity in the dish, the flavours and you may expect also the perfect combinations, wine as well food.
Food that’s being prepared with a lot of knowledge to get the very best out of it. Every single detail that they can think of is being put in a plate and in the restaurant.
No, it’s not about getting your belly full, no lol
On a personal note, some people should pay attention to how much they eat on a daily basis, many are way passed the amount of food that they need. This plays also a role in why people don’t get this restaurants, different mentality.
I was at Per Se a couple of years ago (sept 2019) and I felt disappointed. 3 stars should be worth the journey, as stated by Michelin, but my experience was not in line with that statement. Service was good but I can't share your opinion. Professional yes but warmth .... Dishes looked promising but i was never overwhelmed by any of them and none of them were surprising.
If i compare it vis a vis the Spanish or Belgian top restaurants then either they need to revisit the star allocation or give the European restaurants even more accolades. For the amount of money paid you should have a special experience and it didn't materialize. It might be 3 stars in the USA but not in Europe. i would advise Thomas Keller to go and visit El Celler Can Roca, Noma, Geranium, de Librije, Hof van Cleve, ... to experience genuine 3 stars. Maybe his other restaurant can live up to the expectation but Per Se definetely not. Thanks for your high quality video's by the way.
Very much agree with everything you said.
I feel exactly the same watching this video, even if my only reference point is Guy Savoy as 3 star experience. In Italy we have 1 star restaurant like Arborina or Lido84 providing outstanding experience for 100-150€ range per person which seem a bargain compared to this
@@Luke94piano Love Lido 84! We've made a video from there too: ruclips.net/video/5xQpHhlNxgU/видео.html
@@andersandkaitlin I know, it's one of the reason I've been there. Have you been to Guy savoy?
@@Luke94piano Ah, cool! Guy Savoy is still on our wish list. Glad to hear you recommend it.
I spy Ayaka Guido on the pass, pay attention to that chef! Keep her on your radar…
Awesome!
I love this type of video. I would love to see you guys go to Japan
We've been! Might post some videos from there soon. :)
We ate at le Bernadin this past year, and although its a wonderful experience. For normal working class people, forking over a $1000 and up for a meal is almost criminal. Sure a wonderful wine arrangement and unmatched hospitality are amazing to experience as you feel like a millionaire or a celebrity for a night. But if you, just like you guys, are familiar with the world of fine dining, you know that there are restaurants that offer similar experiences for a lot less money. The profit margins on the plates are beyond extreme and although I get that you pay for perfection in ingredients and execution, there is a point of diminishing returns. Plus at any NYC restaurant you pay for the fact that you eat in NYC cause everything in this city seems to be more expensive then the exact same thing somewhere else.
If we ever hit the lottery we'll try all of them. If you make tons of money and you can afford it regularly , good for you. But if you work a 9 to 5 you will need to save up for this and you can do it a couple times in your life time. Makes it special though!!
Amen
It definitely feels like NYC comes at a premium. One could hope that the prices are high so that they can pay their staff a living wage and have people work normal hours, but I somehow doubt that's the case...
So true
@@andersandkaitlin yup hopefully they pay their employees well, it definitely is a high stress environment where everyone has to be at the top of their game day in, day out
@@neo69121 I hope so!
There are 3 Michelin star restaurants costing half the price and looks much better than this over indulgence just because they can. Michelin handing out stars like they're cupcakes
Don't disagree. :)
This is a refreshing review compared to others that seem to glamorize the experience to the point of incredulity, that it may really be an overhyped money grab. I've wondered if there's a little psychology going on that causes a need to believe it's better than it really is just because I'm gonna need to sell a kidney when I'm done to pay for this thing. Lol. I love this review and the occasional hints of sarcasm swirled in.
There might definitely be some psychology at play for some people, wanting to defend the money they already spent. We dine so regularly that we are able to distinguish good from bad, regardless of the price, I think!
@@andersandkaitlin definitely. I don't think emotionally driven reviewers would do very well. Thank you all for your work here!
@@brentfugett2700 Thanks for the kind words!
My favorite restaurant in New York is Mission Ceviche on 72nd between 2nd and 1st. Go there for lunch and get some ceviches, super light, quick and the BEST place for me. Such a great atmosphere and true Peruvian cuisine. The dishes I'd recommend are: Classic Ceviche, Yellowfin Tartare, Hamachi Tiridto (Must have), The Avechado is good but then you HAVE to get the Scallops in parmesan and the Arscoz Paella dish. Also such great mixed drinks, get the mojito and at the end of the meal ask for a VIP Shot with either the orange and purple liquid ;). By the way, my beef with these michelin restaurants is that at a point, it's really hard to get so much better. Sure, some bites are incredible, but they're just bites. I think it's a fun experience if you have the money, but really, places like Mission Ceviche are just as good for a FRACTION of the price.
Thank you so much for the tip!
Love this video so much! May I ask which camera you used?
Thanks! Is shoot with a Sony A7iii.
I've been to almost all of the Michelin star restaurants in NYC, Per Se was a very wonderful experience, I hope that you went to their kitchen, they have a live stream to the French Laundry in LA.
But for the record, out of the many other Michelin star options, Per Se is low on the list honestly
Yes, it was a nice evening and we did get to see the kitchen (albeit not the live stream). And we agree, the stars don't quite make sense here.
@@andersandkaitlin yeah, that's why I don't go there often, there are much better options out there, here are a few places for your future videos if you are interested.
Daniel
Rezdora
Gabriel Kreuther
Jean George
Le Bernardin
Aska
Eleven Madison Park (which is a similar experience to Per Se)
Daniel and Rezdora are my favorites, they are satisfying, they are my go to spots in NYC, Im going to rezdora today actually
@@ahmedalshaiba9185 Daniel was actually Kaitlin's first fine dining experience ever. I still haven't been, so hope to go one day. We had booked Rezdora this trip, but ended up canceling because we heard a lot of mixed reviews. Do you still love EMP after the move to vegan? As for Aska, there might be a video coming! ;)
@@andersandkaitlin Honestly each restaurant has the good and the bad, as for EMP, I haven't been there since they have changed their menu, but even before it was a similar experience to Per Se, good food with nice wine pairing, but nothing wow.
regarding Rezdora I would definitely advise you to go there, if you love high quality hand made pasta with depth in the flavor, this is the place, I met with the owners and I can help you get a table of you couldn't find a reservation, the food is a Michelin star quality, for the experience, service and plating they want it to be neighborhood friendly so it's more accessible to people, so it might not be the ideal place for filming for your videos, but it's definitely worth the visit.
And for Daniel the food is cooked with heart, you can feel it and taste it, nothing complicated, just good food, he opened a new restaurant Le Pavillon, I would say don't go there, at least not yet, it's a mess, the food and the menu had no vision, they haven't found their path yet, even the wine pairing was a hit or miss.
And for Aska, I loved the food, but it was the only restaurant that when I was done eating there, I went to another restaurant right after because I was still hungry, but I still liked it
Do you agree with Pete Well's 2/5 star review of Per Se?
Isn't it 2/4?
Super cool that they let you film in the kitchen.
Yes, fun!
The price on the white truffle upgrade is absurd. A few years ago I had the white truffle tasting at babbo for a similar price as the upgrade alone and that was 4 or 5 dishes of fresh shaved white truffles. Yea I expect a few premiums for being per se but that’s a bit much.
Yeah, it's insane, lol.
What an experience!
It's something!
One day when you make it to the French laundry would love a comparison
That would be cool! If they'll let us in. 😂
We had the full experience back in 2014. Most alcohol ever for a dinner. It was $650 back then
Haha, great!
When the toilet consumes more money than my wallet as of now... (Nice video! Keep it up!)
Thanks!
Thank you for the insight I'll hit the prime house because you made that feel like you got robbed and left disappointed in the meal due to paying $800
It definitely felt extremely pricy compred to a lot of other dining experiences we've had. Per Se seems to have a certain target audience of super rich diners that will pay anything.
All I saw were snacks. Where is the food? 😂
The attractive restaurant and the Michelin meals were excellent. Very expensive in NYC. I remember I ate in Singapore at the Michelin star restaurant in winter 2018. Didn't remember the name of the restaurant and was closed one year later. Small portions and expensive prices. The truffle risotto at this restaurant was outrageous. I ate the truffle risotto in Bellagio, Italy (Lake Como) was much better and cheap. It was around summer 2018 or 2019
Fine dining . looks interesting ,an expensive but it Soo little food , .I do my own cooking since 8 year old ,never had fast food ,I'm 40 an never been in McDonald's nor any pizza store ever.il learn these recipes an fine tune it to my taste 😁😁
Tasting menus have smaller serving sizes so that you can finish all courses.
Those prices are eye watering.
Truly! 🥺 🥺 🥺
Seems like the pastry kitchen is a level above the rest....
And yet they still hid them at the back of the restaurant! XD
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Fine dining is food for the brain and stomach but I prefer family style for my stomach only
that's fair enough!
How do you compare this experience to Jean-Georges and Eleven Madison Park?
I want to try one of those but not sure which one is the best in terms of price/experience.
Thank you for the video!
We have not been to the vegan EMP, but before that it was better. Per Se might be slightly better than Jean-Georges, but haven't been there in years, so hard to say. Honestly, not sure we can recommend any of them, haha. Updating our New York guide on our blog soon with all our favorites! Just spent three weeks eating all over town.
If you look up pretentious… this is what should pop up😂😂😂
$725, I rather give to my grandma and cook me her tasting menu instead...
Haha, grandma would take that money, I'm sure!
May I ask which camera you use for filming. Thanks
Sony A7iii, mainly with a 55mm f1.8
Seeing the supplementary menu along with what was given in the normal tasting was disappointing to see due to it just being a copy and paste of French Laundry basic tasting menu items, This should’ve been a cutting edge experience but seeing what you were given is upsetting seeing how it’s not innovative or exciting just … safe. Thank you for sharing your non biased experience as now I can see this is a standard wagyu, truffle, and foie gras michelin restaurant
You're welcome! And yeah, we'ver pretty much scratched French Laundry off our list after this...
I'm curious, do you actually pay for your meals at these restaurants?
Yes, we do! You can read more about how we work here: andershusa.com/five-years-of-pure-passion-the-harsh-reality-of-running-a-food-blog/
@@andersandkaitlin just gave it a read, absolutely amazing. Keep up the good work!!
@@lee1234580 thanks! 🙌🏼
Sounded as if you liked it, but would've loved it for 1/3 of the price.
It was 1 star food at 3 star +++ price, yes.
700 plus dollars ???? are the wines included for that price ??? For me the best chefs are in Spain and Holland . There is a chef in Barcelona and one in Denia you should visit and encounter a 22 course fine dining meal with wines for the halt of the price in New york !!!!
$725 for just the food for one person. Which Barcelona chef are you referring to? I have been to Quique Dacosta in Denia. Here is my video from eating there: ruclips.net/video/-g0F92XosX8/видео.html And here is my video from cooking with him: ruclips.net/video/l6TCyrFmGxU/видео.html
@@andersandkaitlin yes for Denia Quique Dacosta and yes what a great chef and talent !!! For me one of the best I had around the world !!! In Barcelona you have Abac , also a great house and one of my all favorites!!!!
But 700 plus dollars and no wines ??? I am
Open to pay for unique experience but for New York I will pass and prefer a good steak just for 100 usd 😉
@@TheLuftie yes, this was too expensive.
should definitely try chefs table at brooklyn fare instead of perse lol the portion at perse has always looked like a joke and their pricing is even more of a joke than their portioning 😆
We did Chef's Table at Brooklyn Fare on the same trip! They don't allow any videography. The food was at a higher level, but the service was not. Not too impressed with fine dining in New York, to be honest.
@@andersandkaitlin ah thats right! i forgot cesar doesnt allow videograhing haha but yeah, i really love their food, and i dont think anyone in the US can make food better than him! that said, i think also think their service is just ok. for nyc, i think ctbf is a must visit if one can afford it!
i moved back to asia in 2019 so i wasnt able to visit atomix, so i am very interested in going back to nyc to try it! have you dined there? lotta hype around it too (also jont in dc - the hype part)
@@jks15jkhaha2 I like Atomix, and Kaitlin liked it even more. It's a different style of restaurant. Definitely in that space between one and two stars, whereas the food at Per Se was closer to one star. The food at Chef's Table at Brooklyn Fare was closer to two, but not quite there for us either. Some dishes were big misses. Our best meal at a fine dining restaurant in the U.S. so far is Addison in San Diego! Strong two-star. We wanna go to Jont!
@@andersandkaitlin cool! i heard great things about addison as well! cant wait for you guys to visit jont haha
@@jks15jkhaha2 looking forward!
Yes, everything looks good, and expensive it was. But all the food came out in such a small portion, do not know if you were full after all that food 😬
We were ok after this meal. Have been more full, but don't know if it's necessarily a goal to feel stuffed. We did feel like the bread serving was rather small, though.
Jules Verne in Eiffel Tower is about as pricey as I've gotten. But this place is nuts in comparison. This may have passed into "Charge a lot just b/c we can" territory. Ironically, the most expensive dish, the truffles, is the only plate where the price can be justified.
I think there's definitely an element of "we charge because there are people with money here," yes.
I've been to a few Michelin star restaurants .....what I can say is have a good lunch beforehand else you will need a pizza after.
Miniature food I don't think is my style but ok to try 1 time (more than ok if I'm not paying)
Usually, we are very full after tasting menus. This meal could use a bigger bread serving, though!
@@andersandkaitlin I say :) at USD750 is a minimum requirement. But me I'm a peasant sort of customer, I like the small restaurant tucked away in the Vieux Port in Marseille, brings you the catch of the day on a bed of crips sweet romaine....
@@AT-cy7im Love that kind of places!
@@andersandkaitlin Ikr ?! How do you like european restaurants? and what was the best one for you so far ?
@@AT-cy7im European is very broad. We live in Copenhagen which has an amazing food scene. Our favorite restaurant in the world is Frantzén in Stockholm!
I’m so jealous!
Honestly? I don't like the idea of having the "price" of something continuously presented from the Restaurant in this case. For example the risotto (x: this is our risotto. Which is really good, but you want the better version of something we should've already elevated? well, add 100 bucks)
At this point, dishes could be compared to art and it's just wrong to judge something by the price. It should be something clear at the start and thought about only after the meal, not throughout said meal.
We agree. They should just make the best possible menu and offer that. Or have an 8-course and 12-course menu, where the latter has the extra dishes.
Ouch Per Se. Curious if any of these dishes will make next years best list, if nothing makes it then safe to say not worth it.
This meal was in 2021 and none of the dishes made it. :S
WOW! After that miniscule set menu I'll bet you got a couple gyros on the street at $10 each! I didn't see anything so, so special especially the upgraded dish, LOL! Yes, that was a waste of money! Per Se not the only game in town! Your money would be better spent elsewhere.
Depends on what you're in the mood for. I love gyros, burgers, etc....but I also understand tasting menus. Theyare designed to serve you, for m any, once in a lifetime meals on the law if diminishing returns. If you have money, and e joy this type of meal...per se is one of the best dining experiences in the world.
Did this include the wine? I doubt it. Insane cost. These restaurants take the p*ss. Hail the expense account.
Not including wine, now. Just the food!
Have to say this looks like 1-2 Michelin star 150-250$ tasting menu. Ok, I cant say anything about taste.
Have to agree with you. Definitely more of a one star level when it comes to the food alone, compared to most two and three stars we've visited. The service was at a three star level.
Price was ridiculous...
Yup!
satisfying！
Thanks for watching!
A lot of these videos shows the bill at the end. That would have been nice. Still . .nice video .. thanks
We always write the price in the description!
I would love to eat there, then I’d love to cook there.
My problem with these restaurants: alcohol. I don't like it, and for health reason I also should avoid it.
Do they offer a pairing without alcohol?
Most restaurants do these days!
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Given my experiences worldwide, Per Se is closer to a lower tier 2 star restaurant at best, if it wasn’t Keller, it would have not gotten 3 stars… a shame to be honest. The dishes looked quite standard, at times a it boring. But if you enjoyed it, it’s all that matters.
I would even say closer to a strong 1 star. We enjoyed the service and experience, but the food was only ok.
Can you show the view?
I looked with pleasure.
100 bucks max, location and atmosphere included
Everyone has their max! ;)
Thomas Keller is a national treasure.
Sure. That comes at a price, it seems.
Nice
Thanks