The Darkest Story I've Ever Read
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Junji Ito is funny cause his stories are usually "look at this horrific eldritch concept and look how hopeless humanity is in facing it" but the other like 20% of the time he's just like "dude what if someone was living in your chair wouldn't that be fucked up?"
Yo dude what if there was holes in the wall in the shape of your body. That’d be double fucked up
Another "dude what if spirals were a threat to humanity? That would be fucked up."
yo imagine if a bunch of fish got robot legs, wouldn't that be fucked up?
@@Kajova-ro4li looney tunes is terrifying to him
"imagine how scary it'd be if there was an anvil perfectly aligned to smash you in the head, then when you stepped to the side to dodge it, a rabbit comes out with a big hammer and hits you on the head. terrifying."
What if balloons, but people
“If you don’t go to art school in the 1930’s you either become an alcoholic or hitler” that got me. Hooo boy this book is a nightmare but thank you for reading it for us
Lol. Art school in the 30s is baffling to me. Hell art school today is still baffling, I wonder what it would be like to feel confident rich and free enough to go to art school
but he became a communist?
@@whatever3145 I have non of what you mentioned and I am preapering to go to art university, its the sheer power of will and passion
@@whatever3145 Its because they love art and want to pursue their passion. Also art school today can be very profitable with the new digital stuff and 3D.
its even more ironic considering the fact that hitler was pursuing art and failed the entrance exams
Yoshiko: *Is attacked in the worst way possible*
Yozo, watching and doing nothing: “I am the victim here.”
I read the manga. So far into it, he was assaulted twice as a kid. One was by “Tome” Who if I remember, wendigoon said she was a mother type figure. So I imagine he was frozen due to ptsd
The momentary lapse of action still made some sense due to his pstd with sexual assault. However, the way he reacted afterwards felt really off. Even if you pass off the "forgiveness" part as blatant misogyny, it's still hard to ignore or be okay with the way he constantly puts himself as the victim. It's really sad. Like the way he's described to be so entrenched in his own depressive spiral makes sense but the apathy he shows towards his wife is really painful to read through.
I think the best thing about this book is when his misanthropic nature comes through and he says things like humans lie to get what they want, humans are animals. And he feels so alienated because he doesn't understand why people do that while he does the exact things in order to get what he wants at the moment with little regard for others. It's really really on point. He's exactly like the kind of people he despises.
@@youtubeaddict9393 I understand. I often freeze out of self-interest.
So then she was sexually assaulted by that man? I was hoping it wasn't so because she seem so caring innocent and I either thought that A) she was having an affair because of suspicion to the main character or some other reason or B) The main character was just seeing things and probably imagined it. I'm a little more sad today
@@kharnsagarathats what I assumed when I read the manga. I havent read the original novel. In the Junji Ito manga adaptation, the man who "attacks" her is a corporate big shot for a manga company, and Yozo is an aspiring manga artist. Its been a long time since I read it, but I assumed she gave it up willingly (especially with the way it's drawn) to try to get Yozo the newspaper deal. Which makes Yozo a lot more sympathetic with the way he reacted to that situation.
Wendigoon throwing in random jabs like calling Yozo a sad e-boy is incredible at temporarily lifting the opressive atmosphere and helping me make it through this story.
Basically what I thought of him. Not really that bad of a story
I'm not a religious person by any measurement; but Wendi saying "if RUclips would rather me make fun of the depression and misery of real world people, then they can take it up with God." is the hardest bar.
Shows the good nature of Wendi and that he’s a good person
Hard agree
Too bad God isn't real, at least not the way they say it is lmao
@@DahliaScope that's besides the point.
@@DahliaScope Make sure you write a book about your life before you're gone. Enjoy!
i was at a book store and picked this book up to get a look at the cover, and a worker came over to me and said “don’t read that if you’re depressed” and told me it’s essentially a suicide note. i thought it was done kafka-esque philosophy book so i’m grateful that worker informed me it’s not lol
Props to the worker for notifying you about that c: 👍
W worker
Well shit I read it and I AM depressed
@@broskiis03 im a chronically sad person, i had just started reading this
@@broskiis03 you have 3 days to live
Double suicide was actually a really popular thing in Japan. It wasn't, like, expected, but couples doing the Romeo and Juliet weren't uncommon. They were tragic tales that were good headlines. It had an entire name, shinjū, and it mainly happened with prostitues who fell in love with one of their clients. Proving your love to someone is hard when you have to do that to every man you see, especially in Japan where prostitution was the full-on girlfriend experience.
As someone who’s dealt with increasingly severe depression my entire life (currently 31) I relate to this story a lot. I’ve always felt a massive disconnect between myself and others, like I’m an alien in a person suit, or like there’s a thick pane of glass between me and the rest of humanity.
Can you people stop inserting yourself into stories to get pity from strangers? Please? Like, i get you might be going through something, but everyone is going through something. This is a story about a man who commited un-life, and you people go, "THIS IS ME, IM SAD TOO PLEASE FEEL BAD FOR ME TOO". Pick yourself up and dust yourself off, or dont. Dont whine on the internet, "Woe is me".
@@dookiefingers8436Why do you think this kind of comment is gonna help anyone with depression? You are a patronizing disgrace to anyone who has to deal with you and your condescension.
@@dookiefingers8436man i wasn't a fan of the initaial comment but this is quite rude. op could have been just wanting to tell wendigoon (who looks at his comments) that he helped them discover something they can relate to. chill your tits and take a minute to go to a coffee shop and appreciate the world around you instead of being a miserable ass
That is dissociation. And it's getting worse bc you haven't been able to process the feelings in your subconscious.. that shit is going to continue to fester and get worse unless you do something about it. whether it's from trauma or something else.. talk therapy, emdr, psychotherapy, emotionally based therapy, etc, are all good avenues to go to when dealing with severe dissociation/depression. Don't just go for basic therapy bc most of the time, they don't really help people dealing with trauma/dissociation.
@@dookiefingers8436damn bro, is that how your parents taught you how to deal with your emotions? Good luck with all of your emotional baggage turning into cancer when you're older bc you downplayed any trauma you had and never processed it.
Funny, this video can serve as a good reminder: sometimes the best form of horror isn't a scary monster, a spooky ghost, or a unknowable alien force, but rather the best horror is the reminder of just how dark reality really is, and how tragic life can be due to the actions or inactions of a single individual.
The Father is a terrifying and heartbreaking film about dementia. Great horror movie even though I don’t think that’s it’s purpose
@@AsymmetricalAce Anything by John Carpenter. Maybe the song piece, "Everywhere at The End of Time."
That's why I write the way I do for my AI Dungeon Adventure, Besatheus is the name of the place (No I didn't come up with it I just populate that world with my characters and events reflecting our own world.) It's at the end of time itself, it has seen many places rise and fall. One war to end another to make another king to take the place of another mad lunatic. It is peace time, but that is at the cost of tribalism in the far wastelands and desolate deserts, vast sprawling cities of technological advancement and magical wonder on the other hemisphere. A Dragon lady walks into a bar, bar keep says they do not sell to her kind. Counteroffer buys entire bar with precious gems valuable "Dragon's Hoard Gold" quote unquote. Fires everyone on the spot and all employees more than like kill each and every last one of them, dissolves business formally and burns the place to the ground in a blazing glory laugh and piss on the ashes smoking an e-Cig they stole off of a very much super dead Cyber Solider somewhere else. OR alternatively force their business at the cost of the Legion now controlling the property and they have to hope they do not alter the deal any further even though they know the Legion can and absolutely will when most inconvenient. Almost planned in a way from the very beginning. Perhaps she will just slay the bartender by driving her "Great Broad Sword", through the bar itself and into them. Sitting next to her siege weapon, taps the bar twice. Having a drink in her hand, she then goes on to get hammurd. Dragons drink a lot. Like I mean an unfathomable amount; her favorite brew is her own house's (That of her name. House Brimstone.) Dwarven Dragon's Breath. It isn't really made by Dwarves her house makes that shit special like; it's just called that. She drinks that concoction from her water skin all day all the time. THAT all of that is just SOME examples of what can happen in ANY given reality at any time. No matter what time period you live in, no matter the advances in science or what perusal of what for "The Greater" for and of humanity. It's all for not though. That is what I was going for, it can be funni haha one minute and the next a dragon woman walks in and gets denied business then people fucking die for no raisons. Perhaps a virus in a lab. Or maybe someone else's war. Nothing changes, it's all insanity and it makes no sense they just keep mindlessly droning on and on and for what? I see. Only monsters.
Nail. Hit. On. It's. Head.
“Hell is other people”
The most ironic part about all of this is Junji Ito himself. The guy comes off as super soft spoken and polite, you’d never think he could create such haunting pieces. On the other hand though, perhaps that is why he understands No Longer Human the best. Who knows.
The quiet and nice ones gain their peace because they've come close to the edge
@@minecraftsteve2504 Lol okay Minecraft Steve
@@minecraftsteve2504 Yes, the quiet ones can be quite edgy
@@jowbabadook8530 people who don't know the full grasp of mature themes and topics are the edgy ones
It’s always the artists. As an artist, I can confirm.
This story makes me think of psychopathy. Not the serial-killer type you see in movies, but the real people with the disorder. The fear of people, the lack of connection, the feeling of isolation, the constant mask so people don’t see them as different, the dulled/missing positive emotions, not seeing the point in many societal concepts that seem to grip others so. It’s all there.
At the very beginning I thought Yozo might have unknowingly been a different creature, some sort of skinwalker or alien. But as the story progressed and I saw how he navigated this strange world, I realized that this wasn’t true, despite how Yozo might have felt. He was human. He wasn’t alone.
That‘s what struck me the most reading this story. All of the emotions and feeling he goes through, which he interprets as inhuman, are inherently human. So in the end the thing that was his downfall probably was the most human aspect about him, if that makes sense. If just he had another perspective on his situation (and decent therapy in order to understand his condition) his life could have taken a completely different direction.
I believe what you just described there actually fits more closely to Schizoid Personality Disorder than psychopathy.
He most likely had at least one personality disorder, not necessarily psychopathic tho. The signs you described align with a lot of different disorders or other mental states actually. I imagine his way of thinking is difficult to grasp or rather relate to, though as an autistic person with anxiety personality disorder and borderline personality disorder I found his perspective very relatable in many aspects. Obviously not that I'd agree on everything with him but he gets those things that mentally stable people don't see or rarely do.
I personally see him at least partially through my own lense of autism.
For most of my life I never really felt or considered myself human, especially when I was still depressed, back then I designated myself as nothing more than a furniture. Even today, when I'm much better off, I still struggle with humanity, but I know that I am human (or maybe even ironically lore than human), just borked and incomplete.
Never meant I had to be a lesser person like this guy, though, but I also can't judge him either, he struggled much more than me with his condition(s), and he probably also kept up with depression for his entire life, unlike me, lucked out of it in time.
Either way... I could relate in some ways to him, probably even more than I'd like to admit. I am glad I did not turn out that way, though, as I always wanted to be a good person as I saw myself as a horrible one trying to find "redemption" or something.
@@silico4038 yeah I think so too
I don't ever remember seeing a psychopath particularly crushed, or even bothered by how they are
I 100% understood this whole entire story. Right away. When he was saying he never felt “human”. The things that happened to him. The way he looked at society and thought everything was pointless. Thinking everyone is a monster. Never letting anyone get to know you ever. Never being happy or unhappy. Always going along with suggestions. Addiction. Drawing that horrific self portrait. I will admit that life isn’t so bleak anymore. I think everything is beautiful and people can be ok lol. But it wasn’t always like this. I’m 21 but feel 60. Hell, I feel 100 years old and life is just getting started.
I feel like my life has been “normal”. But it really hasn’t. I know my life has been farrrr from normal but hearing Wendigoon call this story “tragic” made me feel something. But I’ve never heard a story that I’ve felt so deeply. I felt every word of this story. Obviously not the more specific parts. But the emotions.
As for the question about the last line, I think it was a bit of both. That is how people talk about you sometimes. But also you want to hope that you can be something better.
We're gonna make it bro
I remember reading this book and not understanding why people said it was so traumatic.
Can relate in part, as someone who grew up not even realizing I'm autistic, and spending 2/3rds of my life severely depressed, suicidally.
@@DianaTaffieSeriously, Yozo reads as so neurodivergent, and it just breaks my heart. People with mental conditions that their societies don't understand at all are so tragic. Like, even the least little, "that one is odd, spirits must have farted on them," is something.
That last paragraph about Yozo being "an angel" reminds me a lot of how when tragedies happen like suicide or malevolent things like mass shootings, people often say that the victim or perpetrator was "such a good/nice/happy person!". It makes me think both about how little we often know about the inner thoughts of the people around us, and how those who feel badly about themselves don't realize the impact they have on those around them.
ive been looking for this cause i remeber when wendigoon spoke of it, can you time stamp it
That blindness toward people's faults after death can really get me furious sometimes. When I was a young kid, a highschooler got drunk and wrecked his motorcycle, and he didn't make it. He suddenly became a town hero, you'd never met a more kind soul, etc etc.
Some time before that accident, he and his friends had broken into a pig pen (likely drunk this time as well) and taken a piglet. They played catch with it until it died.
I don't know how you can ignore something like that, even when the person is dead and gone. Don't spit on his grave or anything - his family doesn't deserve that. But you don't have to go out of your way to praise him publicly and write articles about how great he was for the paper, either.
It’s a Wonderful Life.
@@OldSchoolLPsGames people do the same to cancer patients. you can be cruel your whole life but once you have cancer its poor him or her and that's so sad ignoring that its their karma for the horrible things the person has done.
@@youreannoying I mean, I wouldn't say it's karma. Nice people get cancer, too. But we do have a tendency to overlook the bad when someone has "suffered enough".
"He was a good boy, an angel"
That sounds like a post-mortem platitude to me. A haunting final line for a haunting novel. Even in death people around Yozo weren't honest about him.
Suicidal individuals will often fantasize about what will happen after their death, how their family will react.
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I view it differently, I think that, to others, Yozo really was an angel, but his disgust and dread towards himself couldn't accept that.
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@@blfimrtsgnziv9549 I agree that depressed people view themselves in a negative light but I drew this conclusion because Yozo is a bad person textually. Like my dude is straight up a bad guy and a bad influence to the people around him.
I read Osamu Dazai’s book when i was 11 and very suicidal and that book was what made me feel like i wasnt alone and it was such a comfort that i brought it with me everywhere i went and read it probably more than 50 times maybe even more. I still own that exact same copy from years ago and its so filled with my writings from ebery single time i read the book.. now its one of my most precious belongings
The anime Bungo Stray Dogs introduced me to both Dazai and Dostoevsky who have now become my favorite authors. No Longer Human in particular is probably my favorite book of all time, I never get tired of reading it. The way that Dazai describes Oba Yozo’s life and his feelings is so moving and entrancing and, unfortunately, relatable. I love to see people talking about it and would love to see more people talk about Dazais other works.
Same thing for me! I haven't gotten myself to read any Dostoevsky yet, but I've read no longer human and it's my favorite book of all time, it just makes me feel so much
Same, Dazai is such a great author
Yoo same although I discovered Fyodor from my school's library before I discovered bungou stray dogs
I can't believe I had to scroll down so far to see anyone mention Osamu Dazai. It almost feels like some people assume No Longer Human was written by Junji Ito.
Same
I love how all junji ito stories are the most horrific beyond human understanding things and then there's just that one where there's just a little guy who lives in a chair
dude he's inspired
@@mrpitman2428 Who was the little guy in a chair who inspired him?
@@danielomar9712 the dwarf in the flask homunculus ofc
@@danielomar9712 us gamers
To be fair, that particular story was written nearly a hundred years ago by one of Japan's great authors, Edogawa Ranpo. Junji Ito just brought it to life in his own special way.
Yozo talks about how scary people are, doing things only to satisfy their own emotions and how scary they are to him, but he is exactly that. Everything he does is for his own emotions. He takes advantage or nice people and justifies it by saying humans are animals. He is just as much the animal he describes, controlled so much by his own fear.
This is a very interesting comment!
This is one of the comments ever made
He's projecting his fear of his own thought process and rationale onto other people. He hates how he thinks and acts, and justifies these thoughts by saying that everyone else is just as awful as him. That's why when he saw genuine happiness with the woman and her child, he left, because he was afraid of himself and how he would ruin their perfect world.
Hurt ppl, hurt others. This is how the cycle of abuse keeps going. Yozo using drugs to numb himself was the only way he could interact with others. I’m sure it wasn’t lost on him that he was an animal too.
This guy was really off-putting and unlikable. For one thing, the story takes place during WWII, and he never has to worry about being drafted or getting killed because his family was so privileged. Multiple women offer to take care of him, and he emotionally abuses all of then. At one point, he finds some poor woman working at a hostess bar, convinces her to commit suicide with him, and then backs out at the last moment. He also gets wound up about having to "put on a mask to hid his true self", but don't we all have to do that at work? The guy was a goober.
Sad as it is, I don't think this story isn't that uncommon or unfamiliar to those who live like this their whole lives.
What does this comment even mean? People who live that life, live like that? Its like you are telling me fish swim.
@@tobias7985 You sound like the type of guy who would need that to be said to him
I waited an entire year to watch this video due to the warning in the intro. As someone who struggles with suicidal depression (now well-controlled with therapy and medication), I found this story oddly comforting. Weird but I’ll take it. Thanks Wendigoon!
Me too?? I don't know why I feel comforted. I wouldn't say I have reached anywhere near the level of the author/character, but I feel the echoes of it in me. It feels a little like if you found a warm chair in the backrooms.
Because relatable.
Junji Ito writes and draws some of the scariest stuff ever, but in person he’s the most wholesome person to ever live
Damn, this one comment is flooded with bots. Feels bad man.
Edit: this one comment is no longer flooded with bots : )
nah das just his mask
These bot links are so believable wow
@You must know this is a really crusty video, is that you? lol
Sounds like me 😎
The things he talks about in the novel are extremely common thoughts and masking patterns for people with childhood PTSD.
It also seems like he may have been on the autism spectrum.
I was going to say...
yep. I see in this character/author the many people I've met through group therapies for people who've been through "the worst of it" and usually in childhood. We certainly do find intense comfort in seeing others like us, though those with more intact empathy also tend to weep out of absolute despair that others understand that hell. Its painful and yet I think those bonds can save us when you meet in a constructive, guided place like those therapies specifically made with us in mind. It keeps boundaries that we need to not just burn up together.
You see that with addict couples too, they burn up together even faster. If I got too close with people like me it was very bad for us and others, yet if I surrounded myself with only happy healthy people I felt so disconnected from any humans. I think I often felt like I was a tainted ooze that would ruin anyone around me because if they got close and really knew me then they would be touched by all that shit too. Like I am very pleasant in the day to day and that really isolates you into an even worse place when you have no outlet to process what has been done to you.
I'm so incredibly thankful someone gave me the chance to get help, and I grieve the many abused and hopeless kids that grew into adults that feel isolated from the concept of humanity. You are accountable for the harm you cause others, and also I deeply pity the child where it started. I'm not religious but sort of the "there but before the grace of god go I" you know when you have a personality disorder from early childhood neglect/abuse... you can realize how insanely lucky you are to have gotten the version with empathy intact.
Exactly
Absolutely!!! These are the things ppl who haven't been through it or can't process what trying to recover from going through it will never understand.
You know you've seen some shit when this doesn't sound as bad as you thought it'd be. I love the respect and tenderness that you
give while talking about the story. Truly a great narration, thank you so much for sharing
Lowkey annoying to go through this comment section and only see people talking about Junji Ito as if he wrote the story
Ikr
I remember my professor saying this about the book when we had our literature class
"This doesn't feel like a story, Its more like someone saying goodbye to you and the world"
And after learning about the author i can see why he felt that way
Wow, that is an amazing way of describing this book
Well, technically, it IS a suicide note, so-
Well, technically, it IS a suicide note, so-
Well, technically, it IS a suicide note, so-
Well, technically, it IS a suicide note, so-
I think Yozo's reaction to Yoshiko's assault was actually him experiencing genuine heartbreak for the first time, but his mind processed it in a radically different manner.
I’m trying to be like Wendigoon one day! I would appreciate feedback in my vids, thank you if you do! 😁
Idk if its true but id like to believe that it is
I think it's him realizing how detached from. Humanity he us, and realizing that he will never, ever, become human, ever feel love, nor feel emotions at all. Realizing that for the rest of his life, he would be numb.
I assume it's an example of the fact that yozo not only doesn't see himself as a human, but doesn't see himself at all, he has almost no effect on anyone in the story, and the effect he does have likely would have occurred anyways, he doesn't effect the world at all, and so sees nothing wrong with the fact that he didn't effect the world then
@@HungPham-qq6me I agree. It seems like In that moment he felt like a literal ghost in passing moment, watching but not feeling. And I think the realization of his place in that scenario truly was the final nail in his coffin
I found that as an autisic person with a bunch of issues... this story is uncanny.
Whenever there's characters that hit this close to home, it chills me.
All the hypocrisy, all of the self-victimisation, all of the disconnection. It feels too real. The worst part is that I'm able to see this and identify things that are wrong with me, but I can't fix them.
I can't name how many times I've kind of gotten into a natural flow of a friendship, then I remind myself that "hm, maybe you're getting too close". Then either I completely or partially detach myself from that person/those people.
I can't name the amount of times where I get these emotions not because of what's going on, but because I know that I'm supposed to feel something and I'm not.
Then there's the fact that I got into a relationship with somebody that I didn't love. I didn't do it out of any attraction or love, I did it out of a selfish need of validation. I asked her out to see if she would validate my desire for belonging.
I did it, and I stayed because of some odd circumstances. So now I'm kind of stuck in a relationship with somebody I don't love, but I justify to myself that it was good because she deserved a relationship since she was loyal to me for so long and was different from the others.
I'm a thing that loves attention, but only sometimes.
I'm a thing that longs for connection and intimacy, but is scared of it.
I'm a thing that wants all of the validation, but none of the attention.
I know I need help, but can't bring myself to helping myself.
I'm a walking contradiction and can't uncontradict myself. I'm probably going to implode at some point. The difference between me and so many others is that I refuse to commit suicide, I can't do it. I'm bound to this earth until it finally kills me. God help me.
Hey man, just want throw out some thoughts to you. First, you can fix the things you don't like, but its hard, like really hard. Changing how you think and react starts with how you act, fake it long enough and eventually it becomes real. Like how if you train like a gym rat, eventually you become one. Second, don't stay in a relationship out of a sense of duty, or anything that isn't love. It only hurts worse in the long run, you have to live truthfully or it will come out eventually. Tell her, have an honest to God conversation about everything. Final note, being a walking contradiction is just being human. Even in the Bible, David was called a man after God's own heart, but he had a man killed so he could sleep with that guy's wife. Point is, God loves him anyway, despite the fact that we choose to engage in literally everything that is the opposite of Him, He loves us. Idk if you're religious at all, but I believe God loves you, He has a plan for you and that plan is not suicide, its not to prolongue your suffering, it is a plan that leads to prosperity and joy. I'm praying for you man, I love you as a person and want nothing but the best for you. Good luck with life, and don't let yourself get too beaten down.
@@braydenbro9247 Thanks for the support, I have to say that I have my moments of crushing hopelessness, but they usually slip away after not too long. Right now I'm doing better than I was when I commented this, but that's just the way it goes.
About religion, I'm not too sure what to think tbh... When I was younger I was an atheist, but I've found my way into something resembling agnostotheism. What I will say is that faith in god couldn't save my father.
Another thing is that I have a plan to prolong the relationship until I'm out of school, than I'll say my goodbyes and be gone.
So one more year until I'm free, patience is one of man's greatest virtues.
people like you and me are made to believe that we are only needed to convince polite society that there is someone they are better than. Do not allow them to kill the life inside you, they are not worth it. They will tell you that you are broken and wrong while mistreating and abusing each other. Learn to laugh in the absurdity of human civilization. Accept that laws and history books and lessons in school are written by big children with superiority complexes so great that they must subject all of society to their values at the expense of compassion and empathy. We are not like them, but we are not beneath them, no matter how badly they need it to be true. There is hope for all of us if we can break through all of the lies.
@@narcissistsanonymous3904 That's the problem, it's too late. They tried to kill the life in me and I was an accomplice. I took what they wanted to do and applied it to myself in the thought that I'd finally find acceptance.
Now I'm just nothing but a spectre. A spectre of the world and of what I once was.
Junji is like a cat. He writes and draws the scariest shit in the world (A cat pretends to hate you) but secretely is like the nicest and most wholesome person ever.
After reading NLH: Oh wow, this is extremely depressing.
After reading about Osamu's life: Oh. Oh, _shit._
As Wendigoon started describing Osamu's life, the realization slowly dawned on me that this was an autobiography. The shock and existential horror I felt as that realization stated settling in was unlike anything I have felt in years, mind you, I had just been in a tornado warning a few hours before I watched this today. And then Wendigoon hit me in the emotional nads with the sledgehammer that was Osamu's later suicide. It takes a lot to actually make me adjectively afraid in a way that sticks. I'm jumpy, but not in the way that I'm afraid for hours afterward.
This hurt me and horrified me in a way I'm pretty sure I've never been hurt before.
@Bully peter considering the content of the video this comment is unironically funny
Exactly what happened to Me. Read junji ito story first then read the original and then found it about osamu's life and was in a depressed state for like a week
@Bully peter SHIVER ME TIMBERS
If you read this as an autobiography then its pretty clearly the story of a spoiled rich child who desended into hedonism and Marxism and then, after thoroughly destroying his own moral sense retroactively rationalized himself as having always been that way and wrote his life as a sob story to try and escape the guilt of his overwhelming failure on every level.
What he calls the decisive moment of his life is a profound act of cowardice on his part that he writes off as being somehow not his fault because 'things happen.'
When veiwed as an autobiography the question arises, is this a tragic tale of social alienation, or is this a long screed by a good for nothing peice of shit who used his talent as an artist to obscure the fact that he totaly squandered every opportunity he ever had, destroyed his life with hookers and booze and then proceeded to seduce and use a string of young women to support his hedonistic lifestyle before abandoning them or worse.
When I received the book, I wanted to savor its contents, so I read even the translator's notes. I will never forget that line "In a superb epilogue the only witness testifies, "He was an angel", and we are suddenly made to realize the incompleteness of Yozo's portrait of himself. In the way most men fail to see their own cruelty, Yozo had not noticed his gentleness and his capacity for love"
Dazai himself wrote that epilogue in what I assume to be trying to show how Yozo completely "fooled" the people around him into thinking he is kind, but for the translator of the book to see it as proof of how kind Yozo could be without him knowing........man
that is a pretty amazing observation from a translator
Yawn. Awful. Think I'm going to pick the fluff from my navel.
@@TheLoxxxton in all honestly who asked fr? Bro just wanna be part of the team
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@@thefoundingdrip5226 yep
As someone who is highly neurodivergent, and suffers from a highly disordered personality (schizo-affective disorder bipolar type, OCD, and symptoms of BPD, also potentially ASD/Aspergers), I can sadly highly relate to Yozo.
Often, people like me (and I know I'm not alone) are expected to think and feel a certain way, because it's "normal".
As someone who works in psychology, I find for example a lot of what I call "extroversion bias". People who enter the psych field tend to be people-oriented, and this means many are extroverted. Subconsciously, this leads to an assumption that extroverted behaviors are "normal", whereas more introverted behaviors are "maladaptive". A great example is the assumption that social isolation is an indicator of concerning mental illness. While yes, it can be, some people just don't like to be around others, and are perfectly capable of self-caring nonetheless. But this behavior is often seen as maladaptive, and that this person must be forced into socialization. This is often at the hands of extroverted people, who assume that their lack of socialization must be damaging, as it would be to themselves.
I find myself unable to relate to a lot of human experiences, and thus few are able to relate to me. As such, I am often judged as too this or not enough that. Something must be "wrong" with me, for not understanding "common sense" others simply just have.
It's tough, and it leads to much anger. But that anger can be turned into a motivation to make the world a better place. I personally strive to represent these people in the psych field, a place where poorly-socialized, introverted, analytical thinkers are not common
how would you go about giving advice to someone who wants to do the same in the field of psychology and deeply relates to giving a voice and an understanding to others of the same mind but simply doesn't have the motivation or drive to feel like its purposeful enough? :)
Let me start by saying this: I am a survivor of child abuse and neglect. I survived nearly 12 years of this, and then moved in with someone who is emotionally unavailable and manipulative. Quite literally everyone I have ever known has either left or has betrayed me in one way or another.
This story hit hard for me, but for different reasons. After going through so much, including being unable to form a relationship (at all, really) with my girlfriend, losing any sort of dreams or plans for a future that I don't care about, this story really feels like a slightly exaggerated version of my own story as it unravels.
And I think that's the true importance of this story, shedding light on things that most don't really talk about, and bringing to light the reality of what life becomes. As well as the one thing that I think many survivors of abuse comes to feel: the need for simple, honest loneliness. To be allowed to just be, to exist and be left alone, where no one is going to attack you and hurt you.
I think that's why the epilogue stated: "It was his father's fault." Maybe that's a hint to a very different story than what is being immediately told.
Or, maybe I'm drawing way too many conclusions about a book I've never read. However, definitely going on my wishlist for later! :)
Time to show Wendigoon Goodnight PunPun since he's taking on such lighthearted and wholesome reading
Are we witnessing wendigoon’s despair arc??
Oh god. I'm liking this so he sees it and gives that a read. Either that or 177013 LOL
That's probably the story that has affected me the most.
Honestly, i don't think so. He already thought this was too depressing... also for the people who didn't read oyasumi punpun, please be aware that this manga is pure trauma :-)
Honestly he probably won’t even be phased after seeing what’s on that disturbing films iceberg 😬😬😬
The fact that the author’s wife’s name was Tomie, and Ito having a manga with that name, makes me wonder if they are also connected. Junji Ito clearly was inspired by this author, the darkness of his books maybe being partially similar to the author’s
I caught that too. As soon as Wendigoon said "his mistress Tomie" I had a terrifying image of Junji Ito's Tomie.
@@glamdawling bro I literally spit out my drink
Damn I gotta reread Tomie. Straight BANGER
This really is tragic, and as an autistic person I 100% believe the author was autistic as well. Lots of his issues probably came from the childhood abuse and trauma he endured but I immediately thought of autism when he started describing how he felt during his early childhood. Poor guy had a really rough life and that makes me sad
SAME
That was my thought too
It sounds closer to schizotypal personality disorder.
Honestly he sounds like a sociopath. Devoid of all emotions and not understanding others. Not even able to feel sympathy. Only driven by his own needs and interests. Only emotion being fear. I'm autistic myself and I'm really not relating to Yozo at all
@@KapethiaMonan No it doesn't lol
There is a part of me that thinks Ito wrote his version not just as an homage to Osamu, but to put his soul at ease in a way.
Holy shit, that reveal that it was based partly off the author’s life was terrifying.
I’m trying to be like Wendigoon one day! I would appreciate feedback in my vids, thank you if you do! 😁
Another "that" and I was going to have a seizure thank God
@@jocote1062that that that that that that are you having a seizure ?
@Jo Côté are you mad that there was only 2 thats in that comment? That seems like a you problem and that you should fix it immediately got that?
@@jocote1062 that that that that that
Osamu Dazai was a phenomenal writer. Much like the character in the book, Dazai went through a lot of pain and depression in his own life. He attempted suicide more than once. After he’d written ‘No Longer Human,’ that’s where it stopped. As it turned out, Dazai was successful in committing suicide, along with a widow whom he had an affair with. ‘No Longer Human’ is a story that I believe a lot of people can relate to. It’s divided into chapters that are referred to as ‘memorandums’ which basically represents every stage of the main character’s personal life, from his childhood all the way to his late 20s. He was addicted to alcohol and found himself spiraling further down until he could no longer ‘swim back’ to the surface. Excellent analysis, Wendigoon. You certainly have great insights.
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thank you mr amongus
@Eye don't open, adware
@@widjiro No it's not, it's a YT video. Go thumb it down.
@@lainiwakura1776 look at his comments in this channel, he's spamming that link everywhere, and you're just another of his account
It is sad that those with unique voices tend to be faced with demons they can't overcome. That he was able to write a story from the heart with it being released to the masses. That genuine voice that many could prolly relate to which sadly might of made the author realize that he is more similar to others than he thinks.
That moment when he starts drinking to numb the pain is no different from what most humans do, it's just the way he copes with the situations around him that make him feel different. When in reality he's just the same as anyone else, he does have emotions, he cares enough to not want to disappoint people but in his mind he thinks it's the fear of what they would do.
He clearly had emotion because his inability to follow his path lead him down a darker path where he decided to numb him mind with alcohol.
It's one of those stories that makes you think and reflect on your own life because there can be aspect of oneself that makes them feel alienated from those around them, but in reality there are bits and pieces of how a person act that are very relatable. It's that relatable aspect that can help some realize that even if they might feel different from others, not only can be it be further from the truth, but that there are also plenty of people that might think the way they do.
There's a lot of talk in the comment section of awful things Yozo's committed that makes me worry about how absolutely unsympathetic we are to people struggling with mental illness and trauma. In the original novel, Yozo's worst crimes were the things he stole and pawned off to get more alcohol, and, of course, the inaction when he saw Yoshiko's assault. And when it comes to the latter, the section where that happens is written in a way that's so confusing I had to re-read it to understand, which makes me think of how Yozo was looking at it through the lens of his own trauma. Not to mention that compared to the way Horiki and the books Yozo picked up treated it, which framed it as Yoshiko initiating it and not being the victim, Yozo seemed to have understood it a lot better than that: "In most of the novels I read emphasis was placed on whether or not the husband forgave the wife's "act." It seemed to me, however, that any husband who still retains the right to forgive or not to forgive is a lucky man."
Wendigoon in his video says that Yozo did not care much for Yoshiko and only for the thought experiment about trust, but reading the novel I'm left confused because he did. The thing that broke him wasn't just some hypothetical idea about trust, it was how Yoshiko suffered afterward: "She remained tense and afraid, no matter how much I tried to make her smile..." He also brings up this line "Is immaculate truthfulness after all a source of sin?" Which, looking back at both Horiki and the novels he read treat sexual assault against women, makes me think he can't reconcile the idea of society's rape culture and his actual understanding of what happened to her. The way Yoshiko was treated was unforgivable, but Yozo was probably the only person who seemed to show any sort of empathy toward her.
There's a line earlier on in the book between Shizuko and her daughter when the daughter asks her why he drinks, and Shizuko says: "It's not because he likes liquor. It's because he's too good, because..." which I always interpreted as Shizuko seeing Yozo (Shizuko who, by the way, is probably one of the most well-adjusted characters in the whole story, who seems entirely unaffected by Yozo's behavior against her) as someone who doesn't know how to cope with society's skewed understanding of morality. Yozo understood that even if he brought up his own sexual assault as a child, nothing would be done. He understood that the things society justifies are horrific. The point at the end, where the maid says that despite all his stealing and inaction and drinking Yozo was "An angel", someone who despite his mental illness and addiction was seen as kind by the people around him.
I don't know if it's Junji Ito's version of the work that paints a very different picture of Yozo, but reading the book, I didn't find Yozo as unsympathetic of a character as everyone says he is. To me, the book says more about how the society of the time treated trauma, SA, and mental illness in a way that made it impossible for people like Yozo to recover.
Wendigoon also did not mention that the old lady at the end of the book had "violated" Yozo, too. I don't know if it's because he missed it or interpreted it differently, it's a very brief sentence that catches you off guard.
Just wanted to say i appreciate your comment here. I was scrolling for some differing opinions/discussions, and I find myself agreeing. Wendigoon seemed to not place much emphasis, or rather not even mention, that characterization that rather somewhat-unintentionally humanizes Yozo.
Wendigoon says in the video at some point a description along the lines of "something shaped like a human that isn't one" when talking about Yozo, and I think that might carry into some aspects of his interpretation/description - I might be one to describe Yozo as a human being finding much detachment in many aspects of his life, but wouldn't say he fails to be human. I think even that over-arching theme of "no longer being considered human" places more emphasis on society than Yozo's supposed lack of humanity.
I believe it can be good to keep in mind that we can only discuss our interpretations of Dazai Osamu's experiences and outlook by how he himself describes them. There's an aspect of it all I find harrowing as much as meaningful that even through this self de-humanization, Dazai transposing his experiences onto this character, there are hundreds of thousands of readers of No Longer Human that understand humanity better for it, especially through Yozo himself.
Yozo' comments or thoughts that would lend to him wanting to help, or having this morality, but unable to do so with these very tangible (to him) societal constraints, or barriers of his own trauma, is relatable to many many people and i feel is an important part of what makes the book... Personal? If thats the right word for it.
All to say, take my commentary with a handful of salt. I have not sat down and read No Longer Human myself, so whose to say i have any stake or value to bring in a discussion about it anyway.
Too late now, i wrote it all and I'm not deleting it. Lol
Yozo cared about Yoshiko so much that he cheated on her after she was raped & then stayed with his mistress while his wife killed herself. Very sympathetic character indeed.
just because he was mentally ill didn't excuse him from doing the bad things he did and hurting others
What was the sentence that talks about the old lady violating Yozo?
Junjis own early attempts at comedy and the fact that his first hit is "Tomie" just makes him adapting this almost perfect
A Shit to Remember is Junji Ito's Magnum Opus
@@goobadoob so sad he started making NFTs. we lost a real one that day.
@@cherrybramble I read somewhere that the NFTs are/were done without his consent. He doesn't do much of promoting his stuff or talking online, and he's known to be very environmentalistic
@@cherrybramble bruh
Agreed. I had not read this and just watched Wendi explaining it, and the story immediately reminded me of Tomie
This was the book that convinced me to go on meds as a teen because I related too much to his emotional state. Rereading it recently and not being able to see myself in Yozo as much as before showed me directly that things can get better, even if they aren’t great now
Also as NLH was sort of an autobiography for Osamu, I wonder if he had SZPD or something similar based on how he describes said feelings. This book feels like my SZPD a lot of the time
Exactly
I'm glad things have gotten better for you if that's what you said
@@gilbeegee5386 what is SZPD? Or what does it stand for?
I'm glad you're reaching out for help! So sorry that you've went through that
I think the most scary part of this story is how much I can sort of relate to the way he conducts himself to others and his bewilderment with how people act. Obviously im not nearly as bad as he is; I dont see humans as monsters and my desire to appear carefree and not say no comes from caring for other people and wanting to make them happy, rather than fear, but its still incredibly sobering seeing this darker reflection of parts of who I am.
Man I relate really hard to this story. Not sure what's wrong with me, but since I was in my teens I have always struggled with wanting things. Not in a sociopathic way since I often have negative emotions, just not positive ones. It is interesting watching how somebody else deals with trying to understand such things from the outside. Reminds me of my attempts to teach and force myself to want.
If anyone is curious, I feel like Yozo truly desired a connection to a higher power, a reason, and simply couldn't bring himself to justify one... that was/is the situation with me, and the rest snowballs down from there. It does become infuriating how much is done for simplistic reasons when you are of the opinion that they are underlined by no greater reason...
Consider the bridge example. You put a tremendous energy into building a bridge to get from one place to another. Why? To get to the other side. Why? Perhaps that side has more resources to build more bridges. Great, you can continue building bridges forever... whoooptie do. Of course that is driven by a fundamental need for access to more basic resources, like food, but that simply extends your life. Why? you have spent it building bridges to get more food to build more bridges to get more food, then you still die.
There must be something along the way that makes it worthwhile, or else the whole thing is so incredibly uninteresting save the suffering along the way which itself just makes the whole thing worse.
The pillowcase example actually allows me to go a bit deeper into the psychology, since the reason wasn't initially evident. At first it seems disconnected from basic needs, which of course makes it interesting. What then, is the need? It seems to bely a reason, a purpose greater than prolonging your own suffering by extending your life. Obviously you want to understand, perhaps to sympathize and be moved yourself in a new and meaningful way... Then you realize it is simply about cleanliness. Cleanliness of course being a way to avoid illness which will extend your life so that you can clean more things and then you still die anyway.
Obviously this is a terrible way to think, but it's something that I feel relatively alone with. Thats why its so interesting to see the author illustrate this pathalogy so well. I used to alarm those around me by going a day or two without eating or sleeping for little to no reason. Not once or twice, but fairly often. I was simply not motivated to do so. Even that is here in the story.
The focus on women at a young age as well. There I have a lot to say... though I've already rambled enough, I'll wager literally nobody ever reads far enough to see these last few words anyway.
@@bschneidez I read it
@@bschneidez read it as well lol. Btw that's an interesting interpretation(to me at least) of how you saw this story and connected to it.
just to focus on a small part of the pathology that you’ve brought up, I hold a different perspective on the whole “build a bridge to get more resources to build another bridge” connection to living one's life. While reading your comment I thought about how I interpret this sort of outlook on the idea of limited mortality and found myself thinking this: While yes, our whole lives may seem to be a repeating loop of building bridges and gathering resources, what you neglect to consider is the idea of beginnings while only focusing on endings. We don’t have a choice on if or when we are born, only when we will die. And because of this, it’s pointless to think about what the purpose of life is if we can’t even fathom why it is that we were brought into a state of conscious existence in the first place. I believe that once we shed the concept that “we were born for one reason (building the bridge)” and repeat that action till we die, that is when we’re free to start living our lives. We are all limited by our own minds and I find that evident by your comment on how hard it is to find meaning in your life except for the suffering before the inevitable end. This is one of the most common outlooks on life from many people who suffer mental illnesses like depression and it’s something that took me - a person who does not suffer from depression- a long time to understand how people could think this way. I find it very interesting and very sad because it guarantees that people with depression will likely never recover from the illness because, at its roots, depression causes depression. It’s an illness that feeds on its host and grows indefinitely because of the effectiveness of its impact. This is all super tangential and I hope you don’t take any of it negatively because my intention is purely out of genuine interest in your opinion and viewpoint. I’ve not read a comment in a long time which made me question my own thoughts on a psychological or mental subject like this one. I hope that if you currently feel some way that you don’t want to or are trying to change your view on reality and mortality in any way that you’re able to do so. And if you’re happy with how you feel about your state of being, that you can continue to do so.
@@bschneidez I kind of get where you're coming from but I think you also neglect anything but the most fundamental and core thoughts to something and neglect the worlds of nuance outside of it. As someone who has been in a place where a bridge was something I had to kind of cobble together (living in the woods) sometimes you make the bridge because you don't want to get wet on the way to visiting somewhere you want to go or because you might hurt your ankle or mess up your shoes with mud which is just going to make more misery for yourself. Or maybe you like building bridges so you build bridges because you enjoy it technically or artistically. It is something people need AND want its not just about resources but about expanding your life in some way. But then your core problem seems to be that no argument is going to click because you don't see a point to life and don't generally want things much. So the whole "we do it because we want things" point might be unavoidably lost on you I suppose.
I think you're trying to logic meaning out of existence when that's quite literally the exact wrong way to go about it. Its confusing because you mention you find things interesting when they don't have a purpose but you're also seemingly obsessed with finding the purpose of things and the thing that interests you just gets drowned as an afterthought. So its like you're laser focusing on things you yourself find inherently uninteresting or stimulating so its kind of not surprising you don't have a good time. Like why spend all your energy on this and then just dying? Would you not say it would be more interesting to make art with no purpose or just focus on doing things with little to no practical sense to them? Making bridges somewhere no one needs one over ground that doesn't require a bridge. Why not lean into the nonsensical that couldn't ever possibly have a point and revel in it see if that doesn't free your brain up from this frame of thinking because there is no purpose to question beyond it being purposeless. You could decide on your own that the point to your life could be exploring the unnecessary and the unreasonable as an art and as a way of life. You make the reason you do things yourself and maybe your own justification for why building bridges makes sense is that without them existing you wouldn't have had this thought. Not to keep your feet dry, not to visit someone, not to get more resources but so you could have this thought and these questions and that's the meaning you've drawn from building bridges. It doesn't have to make sense to anyone else as long as you can find fulfillment from your thoughts and actions
An underrated Junji Ito story (forgive me, I forget the name) concerns a man that falls asleep and lives through increasing lengths of time (from whole days to months to years) in his dreams, only to wake up and learn that barely any time has passed. The concept is so simple but so horrible to think about living through. Junji Ito's horror hits home so well because of how inescapable a lot of it is.
This is my favorite Ito story! It’s called Long Dream
Reminds me of that Adventure Time episode where Finn went to a pillow dimension, lived through his life there and have a family until he dies old, only to get back to reality where barely any time has passed and Finn doesn't even remember what happened.
Long Dream is so scary one of my favorites!
I thought everyone's dreams were like that? I swear I can go weeks even in my dreams but it's all skippy
I thought this was one of Ito's most popular works, though? Pedantism aside it is probably my favorite concept he's had for a story
Yōzō's conflicts with humanity reminded me of the monster speech L recites in Death Note: "Lying monsters are a real nuisance: They are much more cunning than others. They pose as humans even though they have no understanding of the human heart; they eat even though they've never experienced hunger; they study even though they have no interest in academics; they seek friendship even though they do not know how to love."
No human is actually a monster though. They're humans. Some that do unforgivable things, but human nonetheless
@@gilly_axolotl Have you seen Death Note? L finishes his speech by reiterating that surely a monster like that will eat him, and he knows this best, because he is that monster.
@@aquakit.133 Ah okay nvm
@@gilly_axolotl I disagree, some people have done things so heinous that classing them as human feels wrong to me.
Great point! I’m glad I saw your comment.
I only read this book because of an anime called bungo stray dogs, and it has become my favorite book, theres something so hauntingly beautiful about it, and it has made me cry, i love no longer human so much im happy you covered it
i was looking for a bsd comment :D
I did read the original because of the manga Bungō Stray Dogs, to understand the fictional character Dazai more, and wow. It got me started in reading actual books again, and now I read older philosophical literature and enjoy it :)) I relate heavily to No Longer Human and stupidly, I read it in a HORRIBLE time I my life where I had completely isolated myself from society after just moving into independent accommodation at 17. Luckily it helped me tether myself to reality instead of give up all over again. I am so incredibly grateful for that book
Relating to Yozo is the scariest part. Feeling some of the same things, not understanding, not connecting like others. Relating to this person and seeing their story go the way it does, feeling like you could be them, is terrifying.
You are not alone in that impression.
Watching this video, the most striking thing to me was genuinely how strongly Wendigoon reacted to certain things Yozo felt and did that seemed completely reasonable to me. Maybe a little odd but not so remarkable to provoke such a strong reaction or to conclude that Yozo was a "terrible" person. I feel like I can really understand Yozos perspective & Wendigoons reaction has kinda made me question my own circumstances and perspective.
This whole story is like looking into a mirror. I feel like most schizoids can relate to it extremely well, but my silver-lining is that I'm recovering from the numbness and fear by pursuing the very thing Yozo gave up on.
The main feeling I get is that we're all on a spectrum of sorts where one end is someone like Yozo and on the other end is someone like Yoshiko. The truth is that most of us have parts of both of these characters in our personalities. This reminds me a little bit of the Myers-Briggs Indicator, the Big Five personality traits, and many other psychology models.
@@dat_boii One of the darkest parts is seeing wendigoon shocked by in a way, what I thought was normal in some ways.
as if the story wasn’t bad as it is it just HAD to be the life story of the author 💀
exactly bro
You do realize that this book is basically a suicide note, it’s about his own life because he is about to end it. Dude
i dont think a skull emoji fits here
It was pretty predictable.
It's not all the same. For example, Dazai never raped his wife. The suicides are pretty similar, the things he went through, yes. But Yozo and Dazai are still two different people with similar experiences.
Edit to add: Dazai never raped OR watched his wife be raped. I just remembered that Yozo never raped his wife either; he only watched it happen partially.
The last line of the novel, saying "He was a good boy, an angel," makes me think of an Actual Play by Role Playing Public Radio centered around Candle Cove, where the Skin-Taker is treated as a demon that has no knowledge of good or evil, right or wrong. Maybe it's presented differently in the novel or the manga adaptation, but from this video, Yozo feels familiar to the Skin-Taker in this Actual Play, with a complete disconnect from what he should or shouldn't be doing, acting on instinct and what his most base feelings drive him toward, either directly admitting not understanding situations and interactions, or believing he does - reducing such to existential nihilism - but being completely off the mark. Yoshiko calling him an "angel" could be metaphorical to saying he's innocent because he's not _choosing_ to do wrong, rather he has no concept of this in the first place. This last line may give a double meaning to "No Longer Human": While Osamu Dazai may write Yozo as believing that his admittance and labeling is what strips him of his title of "human," Yoshiko's line may suggest that, due to his lack of understanding of the human condition, Yozo has been spared the burden of the human condition all along.
Maybe it's too late and I'm just reading too deep into it, or maybe I've read The Stranger and The Idiot too many times. Take it however you choose.
Osamu Dazai has one of the most tragic yet relatable stories ever. I think his work should be mandatory reading for highschool seniors or young college students. I truly believe it will help so many of the young generation of today that is constantly bombarded with information both good and bad.
I personally think this story glorifies suicide
The whole "tortured genius" someone who is so detached from the rest of the world because of his genius the only way to happiness they see is death.
That can very easily turn into another reason why someone might find to kill themselves
Also, the idea that you can be a shitty person and hurt people and it's okay because you didn't "mean to hurt them" that's all over this book is just shocking and disturbing. If, and that's a big if this book were to become mandatory in schools, it should also be mandatory that anyone who relates to the main character get therapy as soon as possible.
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f the ignorant person has revealed themselves. No one is implying that dazai was some sort of tortured genius. The entire reason the work is praised is because it a first hand account of the mental state of someone right before their suicide. It provides a window into the mental hoops people jump through to end up at the worst conclusion. It is a work that is celebrated because it is a very singular and unique work. You can find 1000s of cookbooks, 1000s of self help books, but how many books do you read that provide insight into a suicidal person with a first hand account? We are all humans at the end of the day and life is a series of moments of suffering and happiness, we would do well to learn from a man like Osamu Dazai so we do not fall into the same traps he did.
@@GuessMonster-SPThey were talking of the text itself, not the commenters. As for singular work... Is it?
@@user-pi3hd2bt3fit isn't that it's ok, you missed the point entirely, have you even read the book? Or do you only know the story from this video
The depiction of Yozo smiling on the beach broke my heart.
It looks like he's happy because no one wants anything from him because of the state he's in, and that makes him happy, and the fact that he's facing his family makes it so no one would think too hard about it when watching him
for a moment I felt like he was smiling because on the newspaper there was the death of Dazai, a person who was so similar to him, so the "everything passes" was like Yozo realizing that life will pass too "if he died then so will I" kind of thought
"One must imagine Yozo happy"
I was sure this was going the body horror rute. I mean with the title and the thumbnail...
@@camilab2430 I think it was too far away for him to notice and read it, but that is actually a very interesting interpretation
@@neaneoneunuo9651 that would be a herculean job 😅
It’s sad because I think if the original author lived in present day, he would’ve become an online horror manga artist and been able to connect with people who relate to his experience. Especially the fear of acceptance and masking around others. Therapy is also more accepted now than in the past, and maybe he could have gotten some real help.
He is just as human as everyone else. He just needed help to see it.
Having strong relationships and connections over shared passions doesn’t guarantee things become better. Those do help, but sometimes things break inside, and the fixes don’t “take,” either because the person keeps breaking it or because of a hundred other reasons. Sometimes a person has fellowship, purpose, love, and the admiration they deserve from their efforts... But the break inside them goes unnoticed until it consumes them, despite everything going right.
My RUclips avatar is for my little brother. We were the best of friends, and even shared a lucid dream (it happened!) that we both remembered ever after. In the end, everyone was left wondering what more we could’ve done to save Jimmy... But it wasn’t our decision to make. Both he and we faced a problem we didn’t know how to answer, and only through experiencing it could we learn how to face it. “Disqualified From Humanity” perfectly encapsulates the inexorable tide of human tragedy: humans don’t know what’s going on inside other humans, much less inside ourselves, until the consequences have passed. If “Disqualified From Humanity” was never written and passed on, the genres it influenced would be radically different, and a version of the author born into success within those genres might be stricken worse than before.
The important thing is that every day brings new and greater understanding to this limited human mind, and self-destruction comes in many forms. Life, the deaths of others, the bonds we form, and the stories we share... Amazing tapestries weave from our sagas and tragedies, and even if we’re left wondering “could anything have fixed this?” the answer is always: *yes, possibly.*
And for some, “yes possibly” becomes “yes, [x] saved me.” While for others, their loss inspires millions in their honor.
Perhaps my little brother and the original author of “Disqualified From Humanity” might’ve been best friends who kept each other going... But more importantly, their tragic, unnecessary suicides are understood, and that understanding offers a fighting chance to someone else out there. They may not have survived their time as humans, but humanity, if only in small pockets, is now more empathetic and human because of them.
@@WisdomThumbs I'm sorry about your brother.
“We are as forlorn as children lost in the woods. When you stand in front of me and look at me, what do you know of the griefs that are in me and what do I know of yours. And if I were to cast myself down before you and weep and tell you, what more would you know about me than you know about Hell when someone tells you it is hot and dreadful? For that reason alone we human beings ought to stand before one another as reverently, as reflectively, as lovingly, as we would before the entrance to Hell.”
- franz kafka
@@WisdomThumbs Thank you for saying that, I don't think this comment understands the gravity of some situation.
For me, I didn't suffer through any abuse, any trauma. I am financially well off, my family loves me. Yet still on some random day in September of 2020, it felt as I was cursed. No quirky background, no victim story, just pain (and a hell of a lot of it at that). I have gone through the rounds of therapy, with none succeeding, put in the psych ward to no avail, was discovered to be unresponsive to medicine, and now my family has given up, saying that they can't solve my problem, so here I am, replying to a RUclips comment hoping for some level of kinsmanship, someone who perhaps understands what is going on. It's okay if you can't or don't want to help, but if you do I'm all ears.
@@itsLantik I’ll ask some questions first. It’s okay if you don’t know the answers, just cogitating on these will give your brain something to chew on.
Did your sensation of being cursed start from physical pains, or from the psychological and emotional trauma of the global response to Covid/interventions? Or was it a combination of both? Perhaps it started well before that, and 2020 was when you became aware because it broke you?
How clean and organized is your living space? (unfinished tasks, especially those that pile up clutter, are “weighted” heavily by human minds)
Did you have financial stability (through help or yourself) before this started? And how are you doing now?
Have you ever had a spiritual aspect in life? Perhaps meditation, philosophy, or going to church with family?
Do you have any friendships or friendly acquaintances, even if you’ve not spoken in years?
Do you say “I love you” and “thank you,” or does the effort of dredging those out feel too pointless?
What are the activities, hobbies, or career paths you valued before September 2020? Do you know of any that you want to value?
Being resistant to medication is the best thing that happened to you, BTW. New understandings of psychology and depression show that depression is almost never a simple chemical imbalance. Everyone I’ve ever known to take anti-depressants or anti-anxiety is still depressed and anxious years later, they just struggle to *be aware of it.* Turns out it’s much more important to be emotionally aware and able to process feelings, than it is to be artificially propped up by numbness or chemical euphoria. Reliance on anti-depression meds is a rut from which there is no escape; the only solution is always “more drugs,” because that’s all the vast majority of doctors and psychologists are taught.
I spent three years in bed. After Jimmy’s suicide, I kept going strong for awhile, until my step-dad’s grief broke him and he turned to alcoholism. Step-dad accidentally poisoned my dog, then blamed me for “not feeding the dogs” that I fed every day. Then he picked a fistfight with me. I won. The next day we all discovered that a javelina was eating the dogfood, proving I’d been doing my tasks after all. Step-dad broke down and apologized, then spent two years fixing his life and quitting alcohol, but I crumbled. My grandma took me in and gave me space, a ride to counseling, and all the love I needed.
More importantly, grandma kept me working on small tasks and chores after the first year. Physical and mental activity and love brought me back... Slowly. It also helped that a lady hired me to illustrate a children’s book based on my brother. Then, even though I still hated life and wanted to die, I recovered just enough to move back in with my mom and step-dad, repaired our bonds through work, and took up art and construction as careers again. The *work* I didn’t feel ready for... But it re-sharpened me.
Grandma was recently killed by the shot. No question about that, it gave her myocarditis on injection day, and she died rapidly. I got to be there for her in her final weeks, so she got to see all her efforts pay off. Then she died with shingles growing on her injection site. That was my Thanksgiving this year.
I’m not sure if I can help you, but I’ll damn sure try. And we can either talk here, or on Twitter, or on Discord (though RUclips blocks all my external links now, so you’d have to message me on Twitter for a Discord invite).
@liberandum I'll check em out, thanks for the suggestions.
This story is scary because I feel like I’ve been that guy a lot. And the anger I feel at his decisions is a window into the anger and disappointment that others around me must feel making similar decisions
You know, this is supposed to be a horror story, but for me, this is just so soulfully devastating.
You don't write scripts? Are you serious??
All of these videos are a testament to your storytelling abilities and charisma. It's no wonder your popularity exploded as quickly as it has, and it doesn't seem like it's slowing down!
Ikr that's crazy, he sometimes shows his notebook where he write his notes for the vid and they're like only half a page or so compared to his hour long videos
Roachdogg jr lives on
Surprised da roach dogg jr is a based wendigoon enjoyer but it runs
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I'm unconvinced by that I guarantee he has some sort of notes. with all those jump cuts there's no way he's not looking at something
Wendigoon + Junji Ito.
It is like having two different paranormal detectives in the same story: A light-hearted one and a cynical one.
By the way, Wendigoon's t-shirt reminds me of Ace Ventura.
goddamn these bots
Lol the bots came out the woodworks
Omg yesss+
@You must know that's a real crusty video
@SeenBefore what do you mean finally, it's been happening for months where have you been lol
I’m so thrilled to see you’ve covered this book. When I read No Longer Human I listened to 2 songs on loop. “We’ll Be Fine” by Lincoln Jesser and “Thunder in the City” by Future Generations. I feel they really added to the dissonance present in the story and even to this day, I love those songs and they still carry an air of uncanny nostalgia to them. Highly suggest listening to them as you read Ito’s rendition.
I’d honestly love to see you do a breakdown of more of Junji Ito’s works on your channel! Uzumaki, Tomie, even some of his short stories and their themes would make for some great analysis by you! It’s a perfect use of the fear of the unknown, and Ito himself even cites Lovecraft as one of his biggest influences. I think he even did a portrait of Lovecraft in his style, too.
I find it interesting that the painting Yozo first sees that inspires him is a Van Gogh piece because, while not necessarily wealthy, Van Gogh went through some pretty similar experiences, notably alcohol dependency, spending time in an asylum, and passing before he could see what a great inspiration he was to others, how many others related to him.
Van Gogh was the very opposite type of person as Yozo.
Van Gogh was, by all accounts, a very caring man. (In fact, it was the caring letters he sent to Theo, that skyrocketed his fame after death.) He suffered from similar addictions... but the drive towards those addictions were completely different. An apple and a lemon may both be fruit... but they are not really interchangeable.
(Also, there is speculation Vincent lied about shooting himself to protect a young man from being charged with his death. But with how far people will go for eyeballs on any platform, news or entertainment, it's still an idea that should be taken with a pinch of salt.)
@@Hamminja
they said that van gogh and yozo had similar experiences, not that they were similar people
I'm glad you mentioned that about saying goofy stuff like "unalive" or something else. In social media's effort to dodge words like this they don't realize they actually undermine the truth that needs to be told about people's stories. Trying to "brighten up" subjects like this just makes it sound more of a mockery. TOS on these sites need to be called out!
It reminds me of George Carlon's bit on soft language
I think in some cases saying stuff like unalive is so you don’t get your video taken down because RUclips is weird noadays
I do agree with you but not all of it is just to lighten up for lighting ups sake
@@DeapSeaCowboy it's 100% because of that. I remember Aba and Preach saying they just censor things randomly because YT doesn't give clear does and don'ts so just to make sure they stay in the safe zone sometimes they go overboard with censorship on their channel.
people literally can't talk about their lives, needs, experiences etc on social media without replacing words. they will delete all of it, you will get kicked out of communities for putting the community at risk, venues for discussion and resources get taken down
it is entirely because of platform cnsrshp, it's not joking even if sometimes it's funny. i can't even say the names of some of my health conditions online because they are also used as insults. my comments get taken down if i talk about my life. I've had things taken down for saying my other comments were d leeted.
I love the story, as I love just about everything you cover. But the best part is hearing and seeing the passion you have for the stories you cover, and the awe they inspire in you. I felt the same way about your coverage of Blood Meridian, (which I did watch all 5+ hours of, thank you very much) You're so into the stories, which makes me get into the stories ❤
It’s crazy how much the story loops on itself. Even though things end, they end as it started, with yozo only knowing more about what he has thought, with his mind still unchanged, and the only reason he smiles is because he knows he is at full entropy and knows there is nothing left to do but dissolve slowly, away from everybody as he had truly hoped all his life
No longer human was the first Japanese story I’ve ever read. Dazai put so much of himself into this book, and I think it breaks my heart to think someone could hold that in themselves. What’s worse I feel a lot if his anxiety and depression really resonated with me in a way other stories on the same topic never did. It’s like others are writing about something and Dazai is writing using that thing
That is one of the most convincing book reviews I've ever seen.
While the subject matter and style are not something I am interested in, the thought of learning more about the human condition is undeniable.
@im sacred * dеаth thrеat *
Bro get over yourself
@@jerryseinfeld6767 bad bait
@@jerryseinfeld6767 ratio
I feel like the conversation between Osamu and Yozo is actually Ito reaching out to Osamu through time, telling him "I understand. It's okay. I know it, too."
Only a wolf recognizes another wolf.
@@Hexenmeister999 Im pretty sure I can recognize a wolf👀
@@Hexenmeister999I mean I feel like anyone can recognize a wolf
It is both hopelessly horrifying and ironically comforting that I related highly to this character and story, thank you for sharing
Can't believe I finished that off till the very end, im so stumped i even watched the snippet of new merch in a daze, the fact that there's no script yet you described this so intricately that it moved me despite not reading this yet, just thankyou
The feeling of being completely separated and alien to humanity not understanding why people are so cruel or distrustful is a great way to sum up the social life of some autistic people. After you have been betrayed and made fun of behind your back due to your innocence you start to really have a hard time trusting and being around people. That coupled with the depression that is more likely to occur for Autistic people, it really makes sense how some one can become so emotionless and cold. Essentially becoming less than human due to letting the environment around you destroy you.
Fuckkk bro , I always felt alienated and had some of those qualities, yesterday I was diagnosed with aspergers ,granted im high functioning and no one would be able to tell bcs I live normally but I lived my not being qble to understnad sarcasm or always taking what people say at face value and a lottt of isolation ,this book is kidna similar to the alien feeling of litearlly not being able to understand that general wants and desires of humans in general
relatable
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT!! recently I've been really stressed and unable to mask "properly" and I can just tell how different I am from everyone, I'm in an "elite" school so "cringe" things are rarely ever accepted, and I feel how each time I fail to mask, people judge me as less human than them, and I definitely feel very aliented from them constantly. However I definitely relate to this concept of "no longer human" lol
Every time I read a testimony online about the struggles of autistic people and I relate to 95% of it an angel gets their wings
That's basically exactly what I was about to write! I'm autistic too and I can absolutely relate to what you just explained!
“Hello Everybody, Today we’re going to be sad.” - Wendigoon
I appreciate your honesty & bluntness.
Me waking up in the morning lmao
@@vincentbardai1096 Lmao, that was me today xD
Ty we
I can’t believe you made me watch a video this long and my eyes were glued in the screen. Great job
I read this book some time ago, it was painful but also really good, I ended up gifting it to an old friend (we aren’t friend anymore due to our “differences”) I hope he reads it and sees himself it in and I hope he doesn’t end like this and gets help before it’s too late.
honestly, hearind wendigoon go, "if youtube would rather have me make fun of people [going through tragedy], then they can take it up with god, i'm not going to" has infinitely increased my respect for the man and religion as a whole. props to wendigoon. that was such a powerful sentence delivered so casually.
@@mcgavinclapping9490 reddit tier comment
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Comment’s deleted and I don’t even need to see it to like yours lmao.
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@@littlecousin5630 😂😂
@@screamingleak3725 what did they say?
"He was a good boy, an angel"
There is a line somewhere in the book that is talking about how two people can consider themselves "bosom friends" for years, but they can never come to truly understanding one another, to the extent that they can be completely mistaken about their friend's personality and instead only knowing them by the front they put up. This is very applicable in the case of Yozo, who always hid behind the mask of the clown in order to mislead people and not let them in. The author continues that, in spite of this fact, if one of these friends were to die, the other would nevertheless mourn their friend's passing.
However, considering Yozo is most likely Osamu Dazai's self insert... I think the final line ties into this and refers to how people would mourn Dazai's death, even though they never really understood him nor knew how wretched he considered himself to be.
I couldn’t help but feel the same reading the line having never read the book, the feeling that the tragedy of his death is underscored by still being misunderstood and mistaken for something he’s not.
This is a SCARILY accurate depiction of depression. I just went through probably the worst depression in my life over the past few months. I’ve gotten out of it mostly now, but that’s the scariest thing about it. Most of the time you don’t feel sad. Most of the time you’re so deep in self medication you don’t even realize how far you’re falling, or even feel the tragedies that happen to you or are able to do anything about them. You just… watch. Everything passes. All while you sink lower and lower and feel more and more disconnected from everyone around you, slowly growing to hate EVERYONE silently but never vocalizing it. You just sit there and stew and stew, putting on a smile because the last thing you would want to be is a burden. The last thing you would want is from people to know you aren’t ok. To become lesser in their eyes. Weak. Nosediving to the edge. And you know you are. But deep down, it’s exactly as the book says. It’s easier. It’s safer. You don’t want to get better because that would mean CONFLICT. And that would mean getting hurt. So you fall. Until you fall of the face of the earth. When people finally decide there’s nothing they can do for you. Because there isn’t. Only you can pull yourself out of that. That’s something Kozo was never able to see. That’s something Osamu was never able to see. No Longer Human was his last cry for help, his last chance to show the world who he was, what he struggled with. And he did. But it wasn’t enough to save him.
Reading this story was such a hard read. I remember finishing it and i cannot stop thinking about for days at home, school and anywhere i was.
With the knowledge that the author was using Yozo as a voice for his own perceptions of himself and how he experienced the world (perhaps not to the greatest accuracy but still enough to express how he feels) is really interesting when you examine the prologue as the author looks at this characters 3 pictures. The disgust and horror he feels for "Yozo" as he examines these pictures, someone who could almost be human but isn't, is an insightful yet incredibly saddening idea of how the author might have seen himself and his life. Someone who he himself couldn't recognise.
I REALLY relate to the author then. I feel like everyone secretly feels like I’m an awful person (even though I’m not) despite hiding behind charm similarly to Yozo. I cant keep living this way. I hate how I’m perceived, but I don’t even know if I’m right about what they think.
@@Everettalla hey there, I know I'm just a stranger but I wanted to let you know that you're definitely not alone when you feel that way about yourself. Many of us grew up being criticized unreasonably, not trusting our feelings or our own memories as history would be re-written by people we thought we could trust. I hope you can understand that it's by no inherent flaw within you that you feel this way. I pray we can achieve self-knowledge and self-assurance in this lifetime, and I have hope that it can be done 🙏❤️
@@henotic.essence Many of us act like those humans just to keep up appearances so they do not question the rest of us hiding from the real monsters out there. They see those portraits as "normal" while we see them as distorted and wicked. "Hell is other people."
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When I heard Yozo's method of dealing with people was clowning, I froze up. That's EXACTLY the mentality I had back in high-school and somewhat even today.
My thought was to appear as goofy and harmless as possible so that nobody saw me as a threat and would possibly attack me.
Nowadays, thankfully, I have a great group of friends and a family that I love dearly and they love me back. I only wish that I could've met Yozo. Or rather, I wish I could've met Osamu. I think we would've been great friends. 🥲
This is my personal favorite book. The prose always felt like you were being dragged through the authors depression
Yes
For fucks sake can these stupid fucking bots stop
ME too, been my fav for years I'll never get over it haha.
its also my favorite book
@Anti Bot Police damn u bots already learning to fake being on the side of humans this sh crazy nawww 👽
I just finished the novel last night. Half way through the last notebook and I was on the verge of tears. Just a heaviness pushing down on me. When I finished it I just felt so empty. I won't be reading this book again (aside from Ito's adaptation), but I'm really glad I did read it.
I watched this months ago but just watched it again with my son. The tragic horror of this story is so deep. It reminds me that we are all human and need to respect each other's stories and boundaries, and to care enough to see through the social mask. Maybe even care enough to not expose it, even if or when we do see it.
We love you, Wendigoon. You have come so far in a year, but your pure hearted exploration of the nightmarish has not changed. We hope you always keep that 😊
Depression is not the lack of happiness, it is the lack of everything, the lack of sadness, the lack of fear, even the lack of pain; it is truly the worst thing to be.
Worse than being paralyzed?
@@ThegreatesttoneverliveIt's basically paralyzing your will to do anything. Numbing your brain to a point that you can call yourself brain-paralyzed. There are stages of depression though.
Thats insanely simplistic to the point of being comical.
A complete loss of all emotion is apathy, not depression. Depression is a loss of mental vitality, and can have a person feeling apathetic, but it's not exclusively apathy.
That’s Apathy.
Depression is a soul crushing weight of experiences.
Funny how in the end, Yozo was more human than he or any of us thought, the caution and worry in every thought. He was scared of being figured out just how human he was, why he put on a mask, like every other human, not realizing how normal it was.
Fucking hell. It really took me a youtube comment to realise that? What the hell will i do with myself now?
(i relate to his character a lot)
@@karin1636 I mean, keep puting on masks, craft them meticilously, make them the best masks world has ever seen. You know You, deep inside...thats all that matters. And with the outside, its all a game of masks in the end so excel at it.
@@DreamskyDance when i read this book i do understand his actions to some extent except the dark parts where he watched his own wife getting violated infront of him etc..
reading that book made me realize that we all put on a mask everyday and its honestly tiring
He is actually the only human among apes
Thanks man. I appreciate your time and energy spent making these videos. Very well put together. Kept me intrigued the whole way through as per usual. I enjoyed it thoroughly despite the subject matter. Well done sir.
I just finished Junji Ito’s adaptation like a few minutes before I started this video so I’m so glad I get to be in the same boat of “what is going on what’s happening”, and I’m so glad you’re explaining it 🙏
I think one of the things that I absolutely adore about Ito is that he has a lot of empathy: his characters and their emotions always are so real. (it also helps that he is also a talented writer)
aw man, as wendigoon slowly revealed that the story was based off the authors life i felt a pit form in my stomach. like he did plenty of inexcusable things but god what a tragic life
time stamp??
same here. my heart just hurt when he said that. god, that just hurt me in a way i cant describe
i found it like 4 minutes later btw
@@christmasdespacito2505and didnt share it?
@@LL-tr5et starts from 46:12
as an autistic person, i heavily related to yozo in his childhood segment. it made all the tragedy hit even harder. its one of those stories that sticks in the back of your mind for a long while
This was brutal, sad, soul wrenching... but also beautiful. Thank you-
I'm so glad you decided to cover this book + the Junji Ito adaptation.
I have autism, but was living with it undiagnosed for most of my adult life and I couldn't figure out why I always felt like some kind of shapeshifter who was only pretending to be "human," who would never truly connect with anyone unless he was pretending to be something else.
So when I read this book, it was like a punch in the gut. It really captured "the fear of being known" in a way I had never felt before. The constant dishonesty, the clinging to a random person because you feel they "understand" you for reasons you don't even know, the loneliness no matter how many people are in your life, the inability to put your feelings into words, the horror when someone "sees" you for what you really are.
I remember reading the line "the front door of another person's house terrified me more than the gates of Hell." It still saddens me that Osamu Dazai died feeling that way.
Finding out what was wrong with me opened the door to finding other people like me and "feeling human." I had learned about the term "masking," and it honestly changed so much. If he was only born in a better time and place.
oh my god, im also autistic and when he was describing yozo’s childhood i started freaking out a little cuz THAT WAS ME!!!! i recognize all of those thought patterns and know those feelings, and now im kinda getting whiplash cuz you perfectly encapsulated the experience i wanted to share and comment myself…. being known and seen is fucking freaky but im getting to the point where i know that vulnerability is worth it
I was thinking he sounded like he might be autistic because I resonated with his words well too. Really explains that isolating feeling you get of feeling like an alien from another planet. I don't know if he is, I don't wanna diagnose anyone but we definitely had similar mental thought patterns.
For real, though! When Yozo's childhood was being described, for a good chunk of it I just kinda went back and forth between thinking "wait, I'm not supposed to relate to this, oh no" and "but doesn't _everyone_ do that???" "Clowning" is legitimately just masking, and now I'm probably going to be a little more wary of trying to explain what masking is to people. I'm glad I do have something to use to explain it now, but it'll probably concern people that said thing is No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai. Even if the person I'm talking to doesn't know anything about the book, the title alone will probably make them fear for my safety.
YOOO I just made a comment like this I'm glad I'm not the only one who related due to autism
I'm glad you shared your story. Is it really that bad to have autism or is this just your personal experience?
I'm someone who doesn't have it, but I also felt like this for most of my life. They always had to be hidden. My personality, world views, opinions, thoughts, etc.
There are people with and without mental health issues who can feel this way. But then again, is all of this a mental illness or does it just show in what kind of world we live in and how much we lie to ourselves. I would appreciate If you could share more.
As soon as Yozo began describing how he viewed other people and the world my chest began to ache. There is a special kind of grief in knowing there have always been people who are different from what is considered “normal” who didn’t have the resources or support to help them or even understand that there is nothing wrong with them. The culture surrounding neurodivergence has come a long way and it hurts me to hear the stories of people who could have had a chance at a better life if only people knew then what we know now. Another comment summed it up really well. “It is a privilege to know”
Yozo is not a good person or even someone that seems like a person, he's more like a beautiful parasite. Something that leaches from us and thinks it's acceptable.
I suppose I've never had enough empathy for such kinds of evil.
I thought the same at some point between the beginning and middle of the story
Who is that in ur pfp
I don't know if you mean mental illness as a whole or specifically autism (I see ND used in different manners), so this is based off of if you meant it for the latter.
I'm unsure if he was on the spectrum or anything like that, I think he just had a very specific form of antisocial traits. He had emotions, but they were very muted and dull, he mainly felt the more negative ones compared to the positive, and forced positive expressions to please others. He didn't relate to or understand people, so he had no empathy. He had delusions about what people were like (absolutely due to trauma), and he feared what would happen if he said no to someone. I think this story isn't about the spectrum, I think it's a very realistic and excellent look into what someone without empathy can go through. It's crippling and lonely, their experiences shaping how they handle it. He also absolutely was depressed, so that added onto the hollow feeling he had.
I recognize myself in this story and am autistic.
2:17 absolutely with you on that buddy! ❤ I was just about to come comment about your intro, great job and def agree.
I really like your channel - it often is a nice listen. The ability to tell stories is underrated - and you have it. That's what makes this channel so good, soothing even. About the story itself - in it's vibes, it makes me think of Catch in the Rye as I think both are a bit tragic ( although I must admit I have read that book a looong time ago - so maybe there's no reason why I'm thinking of it)
I genuinely could not help but break down into tears at certain parts of this story. As a child, I was diagnosed with social communications disorder, and Yozo's/Osamu's behavior and world view sounds A LOT like undiagnosed and untreated social communications disorder.
I never developed the manipulative tendencies and numerous other flaws he displays in Yozo's character, but it's still surreal to go though his story. I kept asking myself "Had I not got psychiatric help at the young age that I did, would I have turned out like this? Could this terrible husk of a person have been me?" And it's terrifying to think about.
It sounds a bit more like antisocial personality disorder, that is what Yozo goes through
I think it's not even only the lack of psychiatric help that hurts him but the lack of affection from a young age and the abuse he suffers.
This was my thought, as well, though to me it sounded like autism and depression. It was definitely a deep feeling of "there but for the grace of god", either way, though. Very tragically relatable in a lot of ways.
Same here. Meds and behavioral therapy have been a staple of my life since I was 5. I can't imagine what I would have become without that.
Not having read the book, I think a really important dynamic at play here is how people view themselves. Knowing that this is the author's story of his life, it completely changes the character of Yozo for me.
There's a really good line in an episode of Bojack Horseman, specifically in an episode built around exploring the internal monologue of people who hate themselves, where Bojack says that he's reluctant to let his daughter know him, because he's afraid he'll "Bojack things up". Mr Peanutbutter, a caricature of dumb positivity, says "Bojack things up? what, you'll show up and be the life of the party? And then share a laugh with your good friend Mr PeanutButter?" and the show kind of plays it off as a dumb joke, but I think there's a lot there. They're both wrong about who Bojack is, they both aren't seeing the whole picture, Bojack focuses too heavily on the guilt and trauma and regrets that haunt him, and Mr PeanutButter is completely oblivious to those things and just loves him. But importantly, the real Bojack is somebody in-between those two portrayals, and they're both equally far off in their portrayal of him. Later in the show, we see Bojack drunkenly rant about events from earlier in the show, and he really lets his guilt distort how he remembers those events. Even if deep down he knows it's a dishonest retelling of those events, it's an honest reflection of how he feels about it.
Knowing that Yozo is a self insert for the author, Yozo is no longer a character that the author can actually understand. Yozo is not the author, Yozo is the distortion of all the guilt and regrets that the author has harbored through life. Of course you're supposed to not like him, because the author doesn't like him. Yozo is no longer a character in the story, he's an unreliable narrator, pouring out the guilt and self hatred that he'd harbored his whole life.
This is actually a really good comment I'm surprised it didn't get more traction.
This is a great comment. I hope I remember it when I get around to reading the book.
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Such a good show
I Love Bojack Horseman
I honestly love u for those kind of videos u say stuff people wont say or talk abt
As depressing as this story is, it puts things into perspective, this character feels like he suffers from severe anhedonia.
But it is a very tragic but telling story on how one should live in the moment and appreciate all aspects in there lives, and be grateful.
Even with the content warnings, I was not expecting something like this. I’ve never had an alcohol or morphine addiction or convinced anyone to commit suicide with me or anything like that, but this story speaks to me a little more than I’m comfortable with. And you brought it to us in such a beautiful way.
For all reading, please know that Jesus gives true freedom from all sin and destructive habits (Acts 13:39). Whomever the Son sets free is free indeed (John 8:36). On an even more urgent note, I want to stress the importance of repenting and believing the gospel! God sent His One and Only begotten Son that whosoever shall believe on Him will not perish, but have eternal life. Those who reject Christ will be condemned. (John 3:16-18) ever hear in your life. Jesus is coming back soon! Jesus died for our sins, and to set us free from our sins and condemnation (John 8:36, Acts 13:39). Jesus rose from the the grave 3 days later after His death, defeating death. He now lives forevermore, and seeing we have saving faith in Him, we too will live eternally with Him! Jesus is the only way to Heaven (John 14:6). Following Him is the best decision to make in life. Though the Christian life isn't a life absent of difficulty, despite any circumstance Jesus gives true peace and fulfillment, a peace and fulfillment this world cannot give (John 14, John 16).
Am I the only one who didnt think it was that dark
@@thunderlord1263 I feel the same, maybe it's just not as shocking as I was lead to believe by the content warning. Kinda reminds me of that testimony by Dr. David Wood or Acts17apologetics
@@-hosanna8703 please stop. Please.
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"Art should disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed" is something I've heard (not sure where). I haven't had nearly as hard a life as anyone involved in this, but there are parts I relate to. The fear of connection and not understanding why people do certain things, as well as the fear of what someone would do when they don't get what they want. The feelings of boredom and detachment, and the idea that time just passes neither happy or unhappy; they're putting feelings into words that I haven't seen described so well before.
I love that quote. I don’t know where it’s from either but I bought it on a shirt at a pride festival (where I first heard it) and I’ve worn that shirt so many times with relevance in the past 4 years I’ve had it. I really feel the message every time I wear that shirt
I just like to make art that either confuses or terrifies the hell out of anyone I share it with
Because it’s funny
Bansky is the one whom said it
I first discovered this video in October of 2022. I’m really glad I did, because this book has truly changed my life. It made me understand my emotions more, and understand more of how cruel the world can truly be. Thank you sm for covering No Longer Human, and thank you so much for changing my life by introducing it to me.