025 - Flight School (US Navy)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Doctors attend medical school. Attorneys go to law school. …Plumbers acquire the skills of their craft at a plumbing trade school.
So where do fighter pilots get their start? Duh. At flight school, of course.
The US Air Force and Navy maintain discrete flight schools. While they share some aircraft (i.e. the Beechcraft / Raytheon T-6 Texan II) and occasionally exchange students and instructors, the two flight schools otherwise differ in focus and execution.
We will talk about the Air Force’s school on a future episode but, for this week, join the podcast's first US Marine guest, Major Mike “BS” Walsh, as we delve into the US Navy flight school from beginning (immediately following commissioning) to end (FRS completion). We discuss the syllabus, aircraft flown, training locations, what it takes to succeed, and what preparation (if any, arguably) students should undertake before attending.
Like med-, law-, and plumbing school, US Navy flight school is lengthy and arduous, but the rewards that follow are well worth the effort.
Due to the lengthy interview, this episode does not feature a listener question segment. New bumper music by Jaime Lopez. Episode artwork by Janek Krause.
Love your podcast. Always wanted to be a fighter pilot, but my eyes wouldn't let me. First book I ever read was called Saber Jet.Eneded up being a Marine. Thank you for your service.
Many are called but the chosen are few. Glad you found a way to still serve.
Bill....thank you for YOUR service!
Our flight surgeon always said that Flight school was much harder than medical school. His words.
What, a flight surgeon has to go through flight school as well as medical school?! Day-um! And here's me thinking all they had to do was fix broken pilots!? 🤔😁😂
I think the difference is if you are not good at medical school, someone dies. If you are not good at flight school, you die.
Taxi training...i remember the funniest and safest problem I had in civilian flight training. Was realizing you don't taxi with the control yoke, use the rudder pedals, differential brakes, and throttle. To the point I had to sit on my hands. Also getting used to the idea, that depending on the wind, you are essentially using the flight control surfaces to keep the plane pinned to the ground.
As a prior Navy enlisted and separated who still has hope for finishing college and applying to OCS/OTS for a pilot and/or flight officer slot, this is VERY informative and helpful for what may lie ahead should the opportunity come. Thank you so much for all the information you, your co-host, and all your guests provide in these videos.
Hope you pursue those wings. I was a prior enlisted mechanic in the Navy and set my Navy wings goal while finishing my first tour. I used the Navy college assistance programs for all it offered at the time which was a thing called VEAP and then tuition assistance.
Left active duty and finished college while still drilling as a reservist. My CO helped me put my package together for AOCS as I told him my desire to fly for the Navy. I was accepted to AOCS 2 months after graduating from college. I was pretty much a 4.0 sailor making it to E-5 (AME3) as a reservist and was physically strong.
Graduated from AOCS then off to flight school at NAS Whiting. Ended up as an E2 guy and was winged at NAS Corpus Christi in 1988 after a total of 7 years in the Navy up to that point.
Ended up doing 27 years in the Navy retiring in 2008.
@@hawkeye681 Those are very kind words and thank you very much for that. However, at this point I've come to realize that I do not have skills and mindset that would be needed to be a successful military pilot and officer and will need to move on and let go of that dream.
Congratulations to you on your successful career. Flying the E-2 must have been quite the experience.
Do it. You won’t regret it
@@4hockeyskate I appreciate hearing those words and there’s no doubt it would be the most incredible thing to accomplish and experience, but I’m at the point in my life where I’ve been out of the military for a while now and it probably would not happen. I know this will haunt me for the rest of my life but I likely would not even get selected for a pilot slot or likely I would not make it through training.
Just service assigned SNA out of Auburn. Scrambling to find all the information I can with butterflies for days. Such a great podcast that ill probably rewatch 15x over the next few months
Congrats, Ryan!
Congrats! If you haven’t already go down to your local FBO and get a couple of flights in with a CFI. It can make a huge difference. 90% of all aviation has common elements - physics of flight, pattern work, how to talk on the radios, etc. Good luck and have fun!
I used to do a flight instructing back in the day and to think that your basic flight training would put you in IMC and have you land at Chicago Midway airport just seems nuts!
Sub Vet here....I enjoyed the interview and that is no B.S.
Brought back fond memories... 1969, my first touch and go in a T37; I distinctly remember thinking that no human will ever be able to control this, as I hung on for dear life.
Probably the best year of my life. Graduated with George Bush and flew fighters for a 20 year career.
Fantastic!
Great interview for aspiring aviators and a glimpse into the professionalism of Marine & Navy crews.
You touched on Squadron jobs. Be interesting to find out the perspective of a JO for Division Officer jobs, the SDO duty and progression to more senior level Lt. jobs, Lcdr or Sr. Lt. Department Head type jobs and the selection process for an XO and culmination into Command.
Excellent--will keep that suggestion in mind for a future episode.
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If I had Fighter Pilot Podcast you guys could have alone guide me the path to be a fighter pilot. My discredit, I wasn't that aggressive in the pursuit.
I hope you found happiness and success elsewhere, HawkEye.
This video was amazing to listen to. It gives me a bit of hope that i can become a Naval Aviator without a huge background in aviation but a passion for flying. Like your guest i dont have an aviation related major (Technical theatre instead of Crim J) and i was worried that it would kind of be a strike against me. Great interview and i hope that i too can get through flight school
Good luck!
@@FighterPilotPodcast thanks! also a question: if yo wash out of pilot training, will the navy let you transfer to another branch or will they let you choose a different occupation?
@@jacoboconnell7518 Generally you will select a different warfare community within the same branch.
The Fighter Pilot Podcast ah thanks! Hopefully it won’t come to that though
I plan on getting my instrument rating in college and stopping there so I don't get any of the old habits people get when going for their commercial license
What about OCS before flight school or what to expect after ROTC or AVROC
Beyond the scope of this episode.
Great podcast. Interesting for sure. Cheers
It was still called API up until late last year. I was part of the second-to-last API class in August and two classes after me it became the NIFE program. It's still extremely similar. They just cut down some of the fat, cut a couple weeks off the academic portion, and moved the flight portion of training (originally IFS) to after the academics rather than before them.
Good to know. 👍
At one time I'll never aviators had to land on a carrier turn their wings but now it's so different
This episode brought back so many memories it made me spend $5 to patreonize (is that the right word?)
Hey, if you're willing to support the show who are we to debate grammar? Thank you!
"I had a fantastic On Wing, he was a great teacher, we still talk to this day..." Can't take one second to say his name?
Evidently not.
Please, I want to know if a Ghanaian can join the US navy pilot if he or she join the US navy.
www.usa.gov/military-requirements#:~:text=Citizenship%20and%20residency,read%2C%20and%20write%20English%20fluently
Who’s responsible is it to get the new pilot to be combat capable?
FRS or combat squadron they go to?
Flight school teaches new pilots how to fly, land, and handle emergencies. Some basic combat tactics are taught but that is honed at the FRS.
T-28, T-2, TA-J4....USMC...Capt....F4 Phantom driver, F-18 Hornet driver
#respect.
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Hey Jello, I was just wondering if you decided to discontinue publishing the podcast on Google Play Music? Love the show. Keep up the good work.
Blind_N_Baked 420 Another listener just commented on that and said he later found it on Google Podcasts instead.
@@FighterPilotPodcast I found it thank you. I was not aware that Google had moved all podcast to a separate app. Although the app sucks you cannot actually follow a podcast you have to search every time. I think I'll stick to listening to it on RUclips from now on. That way I can continue to get notifications about new episodes. Thanks again.
You bet.
I thought John McCain flew F-4’s?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#Naval_training,_first_marriage,_and_Vietnam_War_assignment
@@FighterPilotPodcast Alright... I suppose the article I read on McCain was misinformed. Could be easy to mistake an F-4 for an A-4. Journalists are not always on point with details sometimes. Thank you for the Correction. Enjoy the Content! I particularly enjoy when you ands or other guests talk about the human aspect of war, or the possibility of taking or losing a life. Brings it home to the hearts we are all here on this planet living the best lives we can. Cheers
@@davidmariopratt Thanks, David. I am sometimes wrong as well but I'm pretty sure about this one. 😎
A-4's. F-4 might be a bit much for McCain. ( AZ here )
Flew A-4 Shyhawks
Get Dave Berke on !
Wesley Delery ok. What topic would you propose we discuss?
@@FighterPilotPodcast maybe the differences between the aircraft he's flown the f16, f22, f35 and his opinion of the f35 dispite the negative publicity and his prediction of military aviation in the future as far as more use of automated systems and drones . I believe he was a JTAC in Iraq as well that would be cool to talk about being on the ground and in the sky's too
@@ExtraMedium777 Have an interview already recorded on the differences between 4th and 5th Gen fighters and working on the rest of those ideas, but thanks for the suggestions.
@@FighterPilotPodcast How JTACs work and sending pilots on the ground works is in particular a mystery to me, and I can't find anywhere on the internet that explains it. It would be fantastic if y'all could do an episode on that!
Thanks for all of the podcasts. They're very enlightening.
@@superfamilyallosauridae6505 We're working on it!