077 - The Boneyard
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Where do automobiles go when they reach the end of their useful lives? Why the junkyard, of course. So, where do military aircraft go? If they’re U.S. military aircraft they most likely go to the 309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group aboard Davis Monthan AFB in Tucson, Arizona. But don’t call it a “junkyard.”
On this episode, U.S. Air Force Colonel Jennifer “Re-Jen” Barnard, AMARG Commander, joins us to explain how and why aircraft arrive-and eventually depart-this extensive facility which covers four square miles, employs hundreds of specialized technicians, and saves the military and taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually. …sure, we’re calling this episode ‘the Boneyard,’ but don’t let the thousands of preserved aircraft fool you, there’s a lot going on at the AMARG.
Listener questions include how aircraft self-healing fuel tanks work, air-to-air combat between fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft, scary carrier landings, and the realism of the movie Top Gun’s jet wash scene.
Episode artwork adapted from original photography by Capt. A. Bongers. Bumper music by Jaime Lopez / announcements by Clint Bell. This episode was produced by our friends at The Muscle Car Place Podcast Network.
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Launching this early since everyone is cooped up anyway. Enjoy!
Transition is good...!
You and Mover still have your day coming, there's no escape.......... Both of you are a great influence on young people.
@neil u No, not familiar.
@@fraucow oh PLEASE do a Jello and Mover video/podcast.. these 2 men are so awesome I wud love to just hear those 2 talk about their experiences
Comments from the Colonel bespeaks a great leader in action. She shows the pride she has in her people and the work they do, and I would bet a bunch that they return that confidence. Great interview!
Thanks!
The AH 64D apache also uses two self sealing fuel tanks one fwd of the magazine and one aft of it. Again the construction sounds the same with a layer of uncured rubber that swells when hit by ballistic damage. Also present are breakaway valves in the event of a high g impact (crash) that have a wasted portion and NRV (non rtn valves)
Former uk apache technician
Good to know, James!
The H-60 airframes also use SSFTs in our two main fuel tanks both of which are located just at the start of the tail cone after the main cabin, the big external tanks you see sometimes are also self-sealing, as well as the internal auxiliary tanks we fly with and all have breakaway valves as standard.
Great episode! Getting closer to doing an episode for us mechanics huh?
Just a question for anyone, I recently had to take the spray lat off of a couple of airframes and it was a real...chore to put it lightly. Is there an easy way to get it off or does it always just suck?
That was an awesome interview and insight into an amazing facility. Boy Colonel Barnard sure knows her stuff!
She's a true professional.
I need to go there. Bit I'm sure i.ll get all chocked up seeing all those old birds sitting in the desert. They all could tell us stories.
"Well actually we have a Titan missile" not something you hear everyday. jeez. what a job.
Really enjoyed this episode, amazing how long some of those aircraft sit there and can still be reactivated. Not sure if we have something similar in the UK, but the Arizona climate must certainly be a huge advantage. Plus I thought it was so cool you found the first Hornet you flew! Almost like seeing an old pet you had to put up for adoption, quite touching in a way.
Nice work as always! Have been binge listening your episodes during those times.
Glad we can help you pass the time, steeeve!
I am so jealous that you got to share some beers with a US Navy MIG-28 pilot!!!
Did you ask him about the problem the MIG has with its inverted fuel tanks? According the reading material provided to me by the Pentagon the MIG won’t do a negative G pushover but rumor has it some hot shot pilot maneuvered against a ‘28 in this way once so the data on the MIG may be inaccurate.....I heard he got a great Polaroid, at like 2, 3 meters. With help from his RIO of course. Maybe you know his fella since you both were in the Navy.....😜
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"Make them tell you no"! Great show, Jello!
C W proud
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Hey Jen! Love the info. Next time I would like the boneyard tour with you. 😁
Great interview and awesome to see you captured it on video! I know that adds a whole other magnitude to the recording process.
Guy Smiley it does add a bit more work on the editing side for sure!
I watched carrier a few years ago. When you talked about the pitching deck landing and mentioned it I went back and watched the clip from that episode. There you are! Cool stuff. Was David Fravor your CO?
No, he was the CO of a different squadron in the same air wing.
Wow I really thought I misheard but one of the aircraft Colonel mentioned that came back from "The Boneyard" is C-145 Skytruck, here in Poland we use designation PZL M28 "Bryza" (Breeze). For me it's pretty heartwarming that the USA uses that kind of plane, but now it's even more when I heard that it was "junked" but restored and returned to the service! As I am now studying as avation engineer it's something motivational and I can only dream of building that kind of plane in an eauropean country, which later can be used by the USA (which has great aviation corporation but still can buy foreign technology aircraft).
Great episode ! I couldn’t imagine how important is the “boneyard”.
Strategic and tactical relevance, yes.
The whole people getting upset in the Pacific Northwest over carrier landings really bothers be. Living directly across from a USMC 4th and 5th echelon maintenance center we encountered a similar situation. When the base test track for vehicles was in need of repair they built a dirt test track 100 yards from our homes along the fence line. Seemed like two years straight all we could hear 24/7 365 were M1’s and AAV’s running the track and constantly covering our home and vehicles in dust. They still use it to this day tho not as much nearly 10 years later. It was a joke around the family to not wash you car before coming over. Never once did we complain or question the need for it. That said our opinions may be biased as we are a family of USMC Veterans but they can suck it up in the NW for the freedoms they enjoy.
Say you had a buddy, and he wanted to lend his neighbor 20-30 jets. The neighbor is pretty hard in his stuff and the buddy might not get them back. How hard would it be to replace these initial jets with say, F16s from the boneyard. What time of time frame would we be looking at? Asking for a friend
Just found this channel. Listened to the F-117 episode because I was trying to figure out how what I always thought of as a bomber ended up with the F designation. I was an Army guy (Airborne Infantry) but have always been interested in aircraft since I was a kid and being former Airborne have my own...how should I say.... interesting relationship with the Air Force and aircraft. Thanks for producing such a great series and keep up the good work.
Kind of you to say, Justin. Will do!
I work at the boneyard.
Excellent, thanks for what you do, James!
@buddymax46 💪
Great episode. Learned something new today about how these retired airplanes are being treated. Good to know they are being repurposed to keep the existing fleet going.
As a Sustaining Engineer at a medical company, my job is also keeping the existing product line going as long as possible.
Loosely related to an episode question, here is a link to the arrival of a USN EA-6B Prowler for display at the Castle Air Museum. It flew in and was greeted by a team that would safe & demil the aircraft before placement on static display. Jell-O might notice a signal given just prior to engine shut down. Many thanks to Jell-O, his team, his supporters, and all that he interviews! "History makes you smart, heritage makes you proud!" ruclips.net/video/3MjoQPlsXZQ/видео.html
what a great interview, had the pleasure of doing the AMARG tour out of PIMA a few years ago.
Jell'o ~ I think you've finally met your match with Regen - she talks fast and has a LOT to say. That she really loves her job came through loud and clear; I think it's the first time I ever felt that you were having a hard time getting a word in edgewise! R, Nitro
That's fine by me! The less I say the less I cringe later...
Any share C40s, C130J-30s and F16s you could send to Ireland?
Make them tell you no!
Love the addition of the live footage! Adds a lot to the presentation!
Thanks, BarTzi. Wish I could promise that for every episode going forward but it will be rare, especially now with the lockdown.
Such a interesting video
Just please, Will you make a video about aircraft features and how do they work.... Like what is mouneuvour of aircraft, how delta wings and canad wings works...what is avionics and how does an aircraft flies .... PLEASE SIR, I request you as you are a fighter pilot... I also aspire to be.... For that I need to knowledge about this....I can't find its knowledge on googe. Please Sir 🙏
I was fortunate enough to visit Pima Air and Space Museum twice in one trip to Tucson. I was in town with my University of Oklahoma team for an intercollegiate R/C aircraft engineering competition called Design Build Fly (we placed 6th out of around 90 teams, just saying) and I was able to visit the museum two days in a row with two different groups of students and our aerospace engineering professor. That was an amazing experience because he was a wealth of knowledge about the design principles behind the various aircraft.
Cool show...haunting but fascinating place always loved looking at it...its in "can't buy me love" and Berlin's "take my breath away" I think
2024 and algorithm dumped this on me, good one.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great interview
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The Colonel exudes leadership. Right person in the right job. Great interview.
Good stuff.
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Mr Jello, please download the "Brave Browser" (Just type brave browser into your favorite search engine) and set yourself up a wallet so you can get tips from folks like me who don't have paypal, patreon etc. Brave is a new, more secure version of the Google Chrome browser that doesn't track your every move and more importantly has a way of "Tipping" creators like you (via crypto currency which we earn from watching ads) for your hard work. I would like to set up a monthly donation to your channel but you haven't set up a wallet yet... Please do... Thank you for all the time, effort, work, and energy you put into this channel!!! We sure do appreciate you and your guests :-)
Hey Brian, thanks for the idea. I’ll think about it and spread the word if I think it’s appropriate!
@@FighterPilotPodcast thank you sir👍 It's a relatively new way of compensating creators and gives the consumers of your product a way of showing our support, hopefully it will cut out the middle man and put more $ in your pocket! Happy Easter to you sir & your family, and God Bless America🙏😇
This is so freaking interesting I love it
Thanks!
Hey Sir, I know you do some of these interviews in people's homes, but I enjoy the video aspect... now we can see the plane hands!
Thanks for what you do, these are super interesting.
Kind of you to say, Michael, thanks!
bad ass!!!video finally!
Well I thought you were offering your services to get back in the Hornet seat but the Colonel didn't seem to bite.
They don't have much need for an F/A-18 pilot, not like an F-16 pilot evidently...
I’ve always wanted to learn more about this! Drove past the boneyard all the time when I lived there.
Hope it satisfies!
I cudnt find a video on the Warthog, so if you havent done one, can you please?
Love the podcast Jello!
Ask and you shall receive:
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Jen's cool!
She sounds a lot like Ellen DeGeneres...
She was very knowledgeable and skilled.
@@FighterPilotPodcast cheers for your great work sir, from New Zealand
@@corrie861 Thanks!
Love all the episodes I’ve listened to with people from Michigan!
Guess we must have about 70 guests from Michigan then, Brad! 🤣
so the f16 doesnt have self sealing tanks but only a10 does?
F/A-18 does have self-sealing tanks.
@@FighterPilotPodcast ok
Any details how big a hole is before it can't be sealed.
If the jet is hit by say 30mm can it seal that or does one tank leak or are they interconnected.
But I don't even see jets fly low enough
Binge watching the videos
@@oldfashionedwrx3574 Unsure.
Loved the video. Keep up the good work. John AE2
Thanks, AE2!
Is that discussion with your Captain going to be available for free, or is it only Paterion? I know you need money to make all this happen, but its a weird time for all of us.
It's on Patreon for now and trust me, I get it. In fact, I gave existing patrons a payment holiday for April--same benefits but no charge this month.
@@FighterPilotPodcast I'll sign up because you are worth it. And I still have a pay check. Been thinking about signing up for awhile.
@@BKetch That's kind of you but please do not feel obliged.
Sweet interview, why not sell them off to property developers is the only other question i could think of...
Not sure what you mean by "them" in this instance, Steven.
@@FighterPilotPodcastthem as in aircraft, fuselage parts and other parts could make for some very interesting property developmemts... old shipping containers all over the world are being renovated for accomdation and storage areas. These could sell for a premium to the correct person or businesses...
@@stevenlarratt3638 As discussed during the interview, some components do eventually make it through the process and can be sold to the general public.
Thx man :)
1 wing on each side lmao
yeah, yeah. I'm sure you'd be perfect, Bill! 😖
@@FighterPilotPodcast All in good fun Jell-O! I once told my marines in a libo briefing that drinking too much causes them to get drunk. 😖