It's so good to see this! Emile Berliner was my great-grandfather, and a relative just emailed this. My grandfather, Henry Berliner, is not mentioned here, but also an inventor.
so glad you enjoyed it ... I would have liked to explore the aviation part of his endeavors .. especially having been a helicopter mechanic ...but thought I would just stick to the Phonograph ... seeing I am an avid collector and repairer of gramophones as well ..... definitely a very clever family indeed ...
I think I can identify some of them, as I am older than you, and grew up around most of these people. On Emile's left, is his wife, Cora Adler. The little girl is probably my mother, Cora Anne Berliner (later, Cunningham), and next to her may well be Lulu's son (from her first marriage), Bob Frank. I think the woman in the first row, second from the right, is my grandmother, Josephine Mitchell Berliner (Henry's wife), and the white haired man in the back row is most likely her father, newspaper publisher George Dean Mitchell, who died shortly before I turned three. He came down the stairs in Henry and Josephine's house to rescue me from an argument I was having with my grandfather's (spoil of WW II) German shepherd, Baron. That dog and I never got along, but I am grateful for my earliest (placeable) memory. The lady in the striped dress is likely Gertrude Friedman, mother of cousins Edith, Barbara, and Joan. I welcome additions and corrections.
Berliner invented,...ready? The microphone, the Gramophone, the flat disc record, the process of pressing, mastering and mothering the disc record, improving Bell's telephone and sound recording in general and much more. I used to work for his grandson, Oliver, a very smart guy in his own right.
@@shanedickens3420 You must be Tina's son, and therefore Hank's grandson, and Henry's great-grandson. I'm Cora Anne's oldest child (she was Henry's oldest). so, we both descend from Henry, Emile's youngest son. Oliver came to my grandmother's funeral in, I think, 1977. We had a wonderful time talking with him, but I heard that he had recently passed away. I used to baby-sit your mother, as we lived on the same block.
Why such hate for Edison? Congrats, you've joined the sheep. Edison himself had thought of the disc record even before Berliner. Should we say the the disc record was merely "credited" to Berliner? No! Because Berliner made it PRACTICAL. Edison believed there were too many flaws in the idea for it to be used, and he was wrong, because he was a man. Edison was not merely "credited" with the invention of the phonograph, he did invent it. Martinville did invent the phonautograph. It was made to simply see sound waves, not play them back. And it's not impossible that Edison knew of this and thought perhaps Martinville missed something. And what's wrong with that? Genuinely what? Because Martinville never intended for the phonautograph to reproduce sound. If Edison had not picked up where Martinville left off, we wouldn't have the ability to play back recorded sound. Stop hating Edison. He was a man with many limitations, but without him our modern world would not be what it is technology wise.
this story is definitely Berliner - centric and was indented to be .. however no one is hating on Edison ... but both men were genius interested in their own fame and their egos led to much petty litigation in an effort to monopolize on a new technology .... Patents were particularly important during the so-called Golden Age of Invention (1870 to 1940), and they would use the courts to stall each others ability to capitalize on royalties Edison had many rivals ... including Berliner .... Edison was fixed on the Wax cylinder .. Berliner's real breakthrough was figuring out how to create a sturdy master disc from which copies could be made.... Berliner was no saint ... nor was Edison .. they both lost interest in the sound recording technology and moved on to other things .. to all our benefit
Why such hate for Edison? Because we was an idea stealing patent hoarder and general all around Jagoff. (A fine Chicago & Pittsburgh term..) Edison DID invent the reproducing phonograph (even if he DID not invent a host of OTHER shit he patented...)But it was Berliner's format that "stuck", because it was clearly better for not only record makers, but consumers. ALSO, I'm not "sheep" Tesla gets WAY MORE credit for shit he never did as well. (Westinghouse was the actual "hero" in "The War of the Currents", using CREDITED inventions of many European and American inventors).
@@chrislowe1267 The Diamond Disc MAY have been a better format (hill and dale VS lateral grooves) But Edison was like Apple and did not license others to use the format. This limited the artists and songs available in the format. All was not lost on the concept, however. A combination of hill and dale AND lateral cutting is how we got stereo LP records.
I have always thought the word "phonograph" should refer to the RECORDS, not the recorder or reproducer. After all a "record" made by a camera is a "photograph". In this context any audio recording in any format should be a "phonograph". But I'm weird when it comes to words, LOL! I did somehow manage to raise an English teacher.
It's so good to see this! Emile Berliner was my great-grandfather, and a relative just emailed this. My grandfather, Henry Berliner, is not mentioned here, but also an inventor.
so glad you enjoyed it ... I would have liked to explore the aviation part of his endeavors .. especially having been a helicopter mechanic ...but thought I would just stick to the Phonograph ... seeing I am an avid collector and repairer of gramophones as well ..... definitely a very clever family indeed ...
I think I can identify some of them, as I am older than you, and grew up around most of these people.
On Emile's left, is his wife, Cora Adler. The little girl is probably my mother, Cora Anne Berliner (later, Cunningham), and next to her may well be Lulu's son (from her first marriage), Bob Frank. I think the woman in the first row, second from the right, is my grandmother, Josephine Mitchell Berliner (Henry's wife), and the white haired man in the back row is most likely her father, newspaper publisher George Dean Mitchell, who died shortly before I turned three. He came down the stairs in Henry and Josephine's house to rescue me from an argument I was having with my grandfather's (spoil of WW II) German shepherd, Baron. That dog and I never got along, but I am grateful for my earliest (placeable) memory. The lady in the striped dress is likely Gertrude Friedman, mother of cousins Edith, Barbara, and Joan. I welcome additions and corrections.
Berliner invented,...ready? The microphone, the Gramophone, the flat disc record, the process of pressing, mastering and mothering the disc record, improving Bell's telephone and sound recording in general and much more. I used to work for his grandson, Oliver, a very smart guy in his own right.
Emile's grandson Oliver is still alive, he's in his 90s.
Emile’s great-great-grandson here!
@@shanedickens3420Please. You’re not impressing anyone by lying.
Exactly. There’s nothing impressive about it. So why would I lie?
@@shanedickens3420 You must be Tina's son, and therefore Hank's grandson, and Henry's great-grandson. I'm Cora Anne's oldest child (she was Henry's oldest). so, we both descend from Henry, Emile's youngest son. Oliver came to my grandmother's funeral in, I think, 1977. We had a wonderful time talking with him, but I heard that he had recently passed away. I used to baby-sit your mother, as we lived on the same block.
@@julietcunningham852yes, I’m Tina’s son! I’m sure you remember Tina’s mother, Bo, who just turned 87.
first comment woooot great vid filled some gaps in my h.m.v fact file more please
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That he died at age 78 is wild. Good thing "LPs" weren't a "thing" he'd have died at 33.3333333333! 😜
Why such hate for Edison? Congrats, you've joined the sheep. Edison himself had thought of the disc record even before Berliner. Should we say the the disc record was merely "credited" to Berliner? No! Because Berliner made it PRACTICAL. Edison believed there were too many flaws in the idea for it to be used, and he was wrong, because he was a man. Edison was not merely "credited" with the invention of the phonograph, he did invent it. Martinville did invent the phonautograph. It was made to simply see sound waves, not play them back. And it's not impossible that Edison knew of this and thought perhaps Martinville missed something. And what's wrong with that? Genuinely what? Because Martinville never intended for the phonautograph to reproduce sound. If Edison had not picked up where Martinville left off, we wouldn't have the ability to play back recorded sound. Stop hating Edison. He was a man with many limitations, but without him our modern world would not be what it is technology wise.
this story is definitely Berliner - centric and was indented to be .. however no one is hating on Edison ... but both men were genius interested in their own fame and their egos led to much petty litigation in an effort to monopolize on a new technology .... Patents were particularly important during the so-called Golden Age of Invention (1870 to 1940), and they would use the courts to stall each others ability to capitalize on royalties Edison had many rivals ... including Berliner .... Edison was fixed on the Wax cylinder .. Berliner's real breakthrough was figuring out how to create a sturdy master disc from which copies could be made....
Berliner was no saint ... nor was Edison .. they both lost interest in the sound recording technology and moved on to other things .. to all our benefit
Why such hate for Edison? Because we was an idea stealing patent hoarder and general all around Jagoff. (A fine Chicago & Pittsburgh term..) Edison DID invent the reproducing phonograph (even if he DID not invent a host of OTHER shit he patented...)But it was Berliner's format that "stuck", because it was clearly better for not only record makers, but consumers. ALSO, I'm not "sheep" Tesla gets WAY MORE credit for shit he never did as well. (Westinghouse was the actual "hero" in "The War of the Currents", using CREDITED inventions of many European and American inventors).
The edison Diamond Disc is a much better format and had a long format version that is fantastic. But people prefer to get the cheapest version.
@@chrislowe1267 The Diamond Disc MAY have been a better format (hill and dale VS lateral grooves) But Edison was like Apple and did not license others to use the format. This limited the artists and songs available in the format. All was not lost on the concept, however. A combination of hill and dale AND lateral cutting is how we got stereo LP records.
I agree ... I have a beautiful Edison DD C250 ... and it works and sounds awesome ..@@chrislowe1267
I have always thought the word "phonograph" should refer to the RECORDS, not the recorder or reproducer. After all a "record" made by a camera is a "photograph". In this context any audio recording in any format should be a "phonograph". But I'm weird when it comes to words, LOL! I did somehow manage to raise an English teacher.
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