Chinese censorship is no longer just a China problem
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2019
- After the NBA's Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey voiced his support for Hong Kong protesters on Twitter, China’s state-run TV channel CCTV canceled its agreement to show preseason games. What academics, commentators, filmmakers, musicians, celebrities, and even institutions say outside of China is increasingly modified by the gravitational pull of the Chinese government and Chinese consumers.
Why are Americans having to apologize for tweeting tacit support of a pro-democracy movement being repressed by an authoritarian regime? To really understand what’s going on, we talk to experts and a banned-in-China cantopop star to explore the forces driving this reality.
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"Hurt the feelings of the Chinese people" REALLY means: "Threatened the stability of the current regime"
Yeah, and the stability of the country too. Even though i hate the CCP, their actions help reinforce the stability of the country and boosts the economic wellbeing of the nation. Everything comes at a sacrifice and while their methods are cruel, china is the biggest market in the world only because of that
@@zeccy337 Their actions haven't boosted the well being of people. They have funneled money from public pockets to themselves by creating money out of debt, and they have destroyed any and all possibility of love with their ridiculous Malthusian policies. They are psychopathic idiots.. and their economy is going to collapse soon, as well as their demographics as a result. They will soon rule a desert that was once a beautiful garden.
@@zeccy337 on top of ALL that, the products coming out of China are terrible. They are designed with planned obsolescence, and break or fall apart all the time. The quality of products from there are the worst I have ever seen. When products were made in the USA, they were built to last.. until fiat currency and central banks highjacked everything.
@@user-tn1di6dm3x What you just said doesn't make sense. Perhaps read it, and check your English. I can't be lauded for being made in China because I wasn't made in China. You just said a lot of gibberish.
@@zeccy337 China simp is here.
A butterfly flapping its wings in Brazil can hurt the feelings of someone in China.
Brazil? Certainly will! Especially the UFO sightings and those crazy weather currently! It's an amazing place!
hahaha funny thing is i did research on the butterfly effect shortly before i watched this video!
Especially if that person bears an uncanny resemblence to Winnie the Pooh
Lol
@@NutNapalm 😂
It’s not sustainable. How long are people gonna act like cowards?
No idea. But you're right, this status quo won't stand long, or rather can't stand for very long
Corporations and companies don't care. The majority of China's over 1 billion people are medium income households. While in America, there's a wealth inequality, with the majority of people being low income households compared to medium income households, while the wealthy 1% hold the majority of America's wealth. China has more people AND more spending power, and that's why companies care so much about respecting what China thinks, they want to tap into their market more than they care about values because it's a bigger market. For companies, it's more sustainable then you think, corporations will prioritize wealth over everything.
@@Huron2000 Indeed, China because of the social rights leftover from the revolution established a mass basis for a consumer market. Whereas companies in America scrapped jobs in the industrial sector. Tbh Chinese censorship is no worse than in the west often. I've been hacked by gov trolls in Britain on Twitter. Had my comments censored or hidden. Been Shadow banned etc.
@@donbarzinitut no worse?...imagine Germany censoring or trying to erase the Holocaust. No the American censorship doesnt come close
'we love -China- money'
more money you make from China, more backbones you have. When you feel you are rich, just say China is an evil nation, when money is spent up, just come back, you are welcome again.
the crossed-out words can be replaced by anything to be honest.
No one related to Quartz is gonna get into China from now on 😂
I guess they should count themselves as lucky. Offend China more & they could get an early retirement. Sadly such activities only affirms Dr Kaku’s observations: As humanity progress towards a Тип 1 civilization, more suffering/tragedies are likely to occur. Hopefully the sufferings will be limited.
@Richard Yang Criticising the Chinese government doesn't equal disrespecting or hating Chinese people. As someone who grew up in an Eastern European ex-communist country, I can empathize with Chinese people pretty well. Only the Chinese government wants to equate criticism with insults and hurting feelings, to prop up their nationalist propaganda.
@Richard Yang I agree with a lot of your arguments. China achieved many spectacular things in the past few decades. This is exactly why it's so hard to understand the lack of self confidence and pettiness of such communication practices and policies. China should be proud, stand tall and set an example for the rest of the world. Not bully their partners, descend into childish mud fights and alienate potential allies. It doesn't seem like a wise strategy.
@Richard Yang Remember how that American student died in North Korea? :D
@Richard Yang Everytime some one uses a word like "us" "we" on RUclips as if their sole stance represent the whole country, it gets so cringe. Sit down kid, you got no power unless you are a part of high ranking member of CCP. You don't get to decide. LOL
It's 2019, but it felt like next year will become 1984.
Ray Tek That’s what they want you to believe, go China and see by yourself.
@@chenyilyu3087 yes, for china, you don't need to wait till next year
go China and see that it is even worse. 1984 with automatic surveillance drove by AI.
@@chenyilyu3087 this is how many think they know China better than those who live there just by watching anti everything China one sided double standard "free" western media propaganda.
@@Lotusflower888 NBA, South Park, Blizzard, Social Credit System , Concentration Camps, Hong Kong protests, Xi Jinping removing of Presidential terms and making himself an emperor for life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Honestly, when facing adversary like this. The best course is to use that spotlight and double down even more like South Park did.
Parker and Stone have balls, gotta hand it to them.
Absolutely, it's sad that the only ones with balls are cartoonist.
@Richard Yang the analogy of denouncing violations of human rights is not body-shaming, is rather bully-shaming. "SURE, you can shame the school bullies for being bullies, but don't expect them to not bully you back in any way they can."
Exactly, Chinese censorship does not affect you at all. Just like southpark, who has no business to do with us and can say whatever they want, and the Chinese government do not care. You don't have to care the Chinese market but if you do, you have the freedom to follow the regulations.
Richard Yang Nope, westerners are not stupid, and they don't have to learn respectfulness.
The replies to this comment makes no sense.
And he is not banned in China
@@filcoco He is !. He made a video on it.
Kakashi Hatake no he isn’t. He says he is but I searched him on Weibo. All his stuff and pics are still there
Kakashi Hatake no, he shown ONE search screen in mandarin which I have no idea what website is, but He is still searchable in major Chinese site such as baidu and Weibo, he either don’t know how Chinese ban works, or he just try to fool his viewers.
@@person10 but it's still the one person on twitter who can't take criticism and blocks everyone.
"Increasingly, they appear to be choosing money" or as South Park would put it "We too love money more than freedom and democracy" :(
Oh Democracy, u mean invading and colonialising other nations ??
Nobody care about this guy, i dont know him... Dont ya?
@@irritatedanglosaxon1705 Im with you love money too
Did you think in china have no freedom?? Omg why people like you exist in this world
@@sweetpotato3910 just in case you didn't know only until now you can't even have more than 1 kid now is 2 kid. You need to pay a fine if you go over. You can't even move freely inside China you need to get a citizenship in the city to get full benefit and school for you kid. To give you an example if you live in some poor area and you want to live in Shanghai. You are no body. You are like a foreigner. That's just some example you western people have no idea. So don't act like you know china
You can't even use RUclips lol. So ya real Chinese people can't see this
China is exporting their cencorship and other authoritorian methods to the world.
It's getting really scary....
This world is same. Not only in revisionist China. All of them are part of this global capitalism slavery. We Marxists must do a real worldwide Socialist revolution, overthrow all oligarchy, governments and profits ad liberate and get all powers to the working people! Workers of the world, unite!
China can't export censorship. It's simple not possible. People are simply implementing censorship in their own countries on their own freewill.
So, you are saying all the government around the world are dumb? or they will take on the ideas? You are crazy😂
that's not censorship, that's simply that China does not market your music,.. products...
Sometimes China reminds me of an easily offended bully :-(
Except US is the bully here
Oh, you mean like US?
You don't even have to say a word, and US is bullying you already....lol
I mean come on, let's be real here, companies wants to do business in China, you follow their rules...simple as that.
If you do business in US or any other countries, you follow their rules too.
If you don't like it, then don't do business there...no one is forcing anyone that you have to do business in China.
If China is an easily offended bully, like I said, US is much easier, and they will bully you using the excuse of democracy, freedom and national security.
And guess what? Many weaker countries in Middle East had been bullied by western nations and especially US for hundreds of years. Why does this not remind you the west and US are all time big bullies?
@@ginnox2049 i never said the US wasn't a bully. i know all about the US' nasty past. but if china has been bullied in the past, why are they doing the exact same thing to Africa, why are they extending their censorship so far outside of their terrority. don't you think there's a problem with that? or do you agree with what the Chinese government is doing.
@@bunnietime again, are u sure it's extending? The video mentioned already, everyone gets to choose outside China, censor or not censor, your choice.
But I wouldn't even put my attention solely on China in regards or censorship issues. Take Beijing's 1989, June 4th Tiananmen incident for example, the Tank Man which is well known to many in the west...Many agrees that the man got ran over by the tank, and even claimed they saw it on the news when it happened. Censorship in action, cut off the scene at the end of the record, and only show part of it, then use words to start brainwashing people to start to believe they had seen the tank ran over the man. Truth, the man was only being dragged away by other people on foot, never got ran over by tanks.
If censorship in the west is at such a level, not only are they blocking out information to their own people, but also creating fake information to mislead them...Then why is it China's little censorship of blocking insult or bad mouthing on them is a bigger problem to many of us?
You tell me which is more concerning... If there are only two choices, since neutral is not possible in any media, then I prefer censoring bad information instead of information that mislead us to hate others and create wars.
Yatto Leung China’s tactic also seeks to ignite hate. Look closely and think with me for a sec. china’s identity is very linked to the concept of oneness, correct? The Han people. The chinese identity. One China. One people. What does this idea not leave room for? Any sort of minority. Example: Uighur people and the camps. China flat out lies about what these camps are for and that they’re good and fun “re-education” camps. And many chinese believe this and agree that the uighurs should go there. Now, think about how whenever there’s an internal political issue with China. What does China always do? They blame an external power like the United States or some foreign power for infiltrating and igniting the chaos. The Chinese government encourages protests ONLY when they’re nationalistic and anti-some foreign power. Just look into it. I’m not trying to say that America or any western country is innocent, I’m just saying that China does the same thing too. It’s just less obvious
No artist's work hurts Chinese feeling, only banning them hurts us.
xrmk 889900 Image if Justin Bieber went into Auschwitz and post a Nazi salute post it on Instagram. I bet he can make out of Poland alive.
@@ComdZero How does that hurt anyone?
I felt so sad when Tzuyu made that apology 😭😭 she is proud of where she comes from.🇹🇼🇹🇼
+1 I come from TW too
bow for money whats wrong with that
I come from China too 🇹🇼🇹🇼 I'm from the mainland area of the Republic of China 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
我们高中政治老师跟我们说，人家台湾人还提中华民国就够给面子的了
I'll tell you where censorship is a problem: RUclips.
They have a similar policy. Hurt the feelings of the politically correct and you will disappear
RUclips is a dog of China government
@@mayitbe6606 Hahaha we Chinese thought YTB is dog of us govt. LOL
May it be 🤣dear Lord, Chinese govt has banned ytb, fb, twitter, like forever. Lmfao, you're embarrassing yourself
@@mayitbe6606 I guess you have something wrong with your comprehension..
The chinese government is like an annoying twitter stan who blocks everyone when he/she gets criticised
@@xw8462 after that will withdraw your degree next day and send you to school study again.... :))
@@MYMOVIE Haha :)))) source?
Just STOP doing business with China altogether! It's annoying and frustrating to see this kind of news resurfacing every few weeks.
China has money and companies want money.
It all started with HongKong, you can blame the US and it's media for it. Americans get overflooded with the news and brainswashed by the biased coverage. This how NBA and everyone got involved int he first place. Despite Chile, Haiti, Ecuador, Catalonia and Iraq are ignored all together. It was a scheme to undermine China.
@@crystalball020 exactly they want chinese business but they are bashing the govt. Why shld any country accept that type of mentality. China shld stop lending money to the US.
@@bellamy2041
China would not have money without the West. Without foreign investment in the 1980's, China would still be like North Korea. It's not even Communist anymore, there are privately owned Chinese companies everywhere! Mao would be furious.
Greed
There's still one thing that I don't fully understand, that's if these companies are that unhappy about Chinese censorship why not they just ignore it and keep saying whatever comes in their mind. I mean it's easy to do so and it's not necessary to be forced to apologize. As long as these companies are happy to lose the Chinese market, they can still speak whatever they like. Just get some balls to do so.
line caro agree
Most of the time its unintentional or done by lower level people who are unaware or don't care about Chinese censorship
Exactly, it is easy as that. Don’t earn money from China and say bad things about China
Yes I agree, I don't know why they complain, if Chinese does not work with you because you offense them, just ignore it and keep saying bad of China, that's very easy and simple, why still compain Chinese?
They aren’t happy to lose money in Mainland China. That’s a lot of money
“Politics: “Poli” a Latin word meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "bloodsucking creatures".”
― robin Williams
I miss that guy... coward that he was to take his life and leave behind his wife n children and grandchildren
@@U4Eye You should try it. At least in your case, no one will miss you.
Sorry, but "poly" is Greek >w
Really wanted to make a comment and speak my mind here,
But I remembered I still have families and friends in China.
why??
RUclips is a company managed in America, how can the information be leaked in China? I think you're good, your family won't be punished.
Remember when President Trump was censored by big tech? Yeah that was chinese censorship in America
That's what you get when the rich don't have to follow ANY rules.
That video of Tzuyu always breaks my heart. She was only 15 or 16 there and thrown into a political debate just because she held a flag of her homeland..
I’m still angry that they made my poor Tzuyu apologize for absolutely nothing.
I believe that was more overly nationalistic citizens not the government themselves...and I understand how it is a sensitive issue I mean those territories were taken during times of conflict
This is even more relevant after the NBA thing
And they cry when other countries ban there companies.
It looks like the news reports on what's happening two weeks after South Park points it out.
sixteen year old girl: holds up a flag
chinese government: and i took that personally
Wow, there're so many bots in the comments section replying. Beware
Can't believe Tzuyu was forced to apologize. She was just a kid. She doesn't care about politics.
What is the background music at 7:18? Interesting video!
And people ask me why I have problem with China.
@Renvis dont forget the death rooms with there one child bs
kudos to you Quartz for doing the right thing, regardless of your political ideology in US. freedom of speech is and should always be a bi-partisan issue.
That's how you master the way of saying black is white.
Nice! 50 cents for you.
To be fair, same thing happens in the west. Hurt the feeling of liberals and get censored.
same for conservatives too like trump "lynching"
Communist brotherhood
@@AshutoshNandanceo idoit. No one country had been communist. Two hypocrisy "communist" China and Vietnam the west often calls are actually capitalist-nationalist oligarchy degenerated states. Awake up from fake media!
And that's why Fox News doesn't exist, right?
@@travisjohnson6703 I wonder, if Fox News 24 hours per day tell you why bin laden is a freedom fighter, is this network still exist?
It's funny Leica is the brand Huawei use for their phone cameras haha.
@Pat Irony. Irony is everywhere!!!
Leica already apologize..
@@sweetpotato3910 I'm aware, what's your point?
To be fair Ren Zhengfei is still expanding Huawei's business in Canada, despite Canada gov remains to be US gov's dog and keep jailing Ren's daughter without real incriminating proof.
So it is because money, not because China.
Yes, but foreign companies seem unwilling to take responsibility for their greed. 'I couldn't resist the potential profits!' is not an excuse.
We’re focusing on what divides us. We’re plagued by identity politics.
We must focus on the evil.
As a Chinese, I Hope in the future Chinese Censorship will no longer be a thing
Do you live in China? If so, which VPN or system you uses to watch youtube? Just a curiosity
@@ericpa06 Yes, that's quite common. Though you have to pay more for unlimited data plan
You are a true patriot to your country then, always looking for the best for your people. Hats off to you!🙇♀️
Ashleigh Adams In a country of 1.3 Billion people, censorship can be the best for the people, as it helps in maintaining inner stability and enables the government to work much more efficiently.
Marvin Xox when intangible community is also being censored, and you don’t see them even in words, that was total stabilized but not one can’t even speak for them and help them to lifting up their living standards, how amazing! Intangible community (弱勢群體）has nothing to do with political issues. And small group of people （小群體）who under definition of start up community is also nothing against the government, unfortunately those words In chinese are also being censored. Can’t understand why!
Please someone make a list of all the companies bowing to Chinese pressure so I know who to boycott.
China trying to stop forces from splitting Hong Kong is that wrong?
nba blizzard valve Adidas Nike apple google facebook samsung Microsoft IKEA etc. please boycott them
Just google Companies Kowtowing to China.
pretty much everyone big and important.
Good luck throwing everything away you own
It is strange that some companies and individuals would find it ok to first insult Chinese people and then expect to make money from Chinese people. Why is is so strange that the Chinese simply say "We don't want your business anymore"?
China is more and more popular in China . Everyone is talking about China .
talking the truth right?, oh sorry you cant do that
hahaha
Yeah, but not in a good way. Actually Xi Jinping "Winnie the pooh " makes the image of China more catastrophic every seconds
L'alien who cares? Important is the issue. That can change the world.
Nice transition on 7:19
I’m still so angry about what they did to tzuyu, she was so young and did not deserve to go through that
I think this has shaped the way she acts today :(
I love her so much
You don't need to follow chinese rules of law if you don't do business in/with CHINA. The gloden rule is' DO NOT BITE THE HAND WHO FEEDS YOU'. And this is the rule all around the world!
”你给我闭嘴，我们在讨论民主和言论自由” "You, shut up, we are discussing democracy and freedom of speech here"
China’s done themselves a favor for banning Katy Perry and Justin Bieber. Still messed up tho
I am Hong Kong citizen. I saw the western media and Governments most of the time said something bad to China government. For instance, Hong Kong less than 20% of the population wants independence. When Hong Kong rioters protested and damaged our city. Western governments and media (CNN, BBC, NewYork Times...) blamed China government. On the other side of the world, Barcelona. There have 92% of the population wants independence. Barcelona protesters damaged the city just like Hong Kong rioters. Western governments blamed the Barcelona people as rioters. Western governments always act like this.
Fake media, double standard, anti-China, political correctness.
to cometwold: Shame on you CCP's fifty cents party members, your not deserve to be a Hong Kong citizen, you are CCP's lap dog, HK is belong to real democrat and freedom lover HK citizen, you are a filthy stain for HK, you just keep tight your fifty cents you just earned.
So you think the communist party of China will protect your civil rights in Hongkong ? Civil rights which they deprive from all mainland Chinese people in order to stay in power ? It needs a big leap of faith to have this expectation.
@@MAziz-xd6cp You're just venting your stupid emotions. Can you communicate with your brain?
@@MAziz-xd6cp I as an American see it too. Everyone is talking about Hong Kong. Very few people even know about the Catalonian protests. Also dude you should know that Hong Kongers have different opinions. Mostly older people in Hong Kong think that it's bad to skip school and protest because they have a conservative mindset that puts education and safety as the highest priority. The young are more passionate about their freedom because they know that they are fighting for their future.
the logic is, how can you come to my house as a guest and share my food, but you are saying something to insult me . i don't think any sane person would want that...
this background beat box in the beginning is really distracting when you wear good stereo headphones
Hurt feelings of Chinese people?😂 or hurt the CCP'S feelings
Both, but, if Chinese love you so much, CCP will put some extra space, like NBA, once those 2 games completely sold out, government back down a little bite in this issue.
All Chinese people even in western has CCP ideology.
I'm curious, if the CEO of a Chinese company says he supports Hawaii or California independence, what will happen to the Chinese company in the United States?
Nothing.
@@juliooliveira8117 do you think Canada should release Huawei's CFO. she is not a criminal. how can you arrest her? crazy world. stupid people. if Canada continues do that kind of thing. maybe China will arrest some Canada people to payback. Canada is a fake freedom country.
@@user-qb6nf9kn2h what do you mean by "you"? Hahaha I have never been to Canada ese! ;)
This is so messed up!
Felype Forte take the information but think independently
You don’t have to, just don’t take their money. They’re not sending drones over to force you to take their money, your own greed is making you do it. It’s their money they don’t owe you, why are they obligated to give it to you for any reason.
You know, there's a China's Common Weapon they always had: a Copycat.
No Brands from Companies, Chinese will Copying every brands as possible just for their country
Edit: in that case, Chinese Consumers had no choices to buy something's original, turns out into fake things that looks similar. Like AK-47 Copycat for example
the thing about fear to speak up in taiwan: living here I have never experienced that, especially not lately. if anything, people are more vocal nowadays, especially young people. taiwanese in general are very active politically
As you should! You got my support from Belgium.
you are removed from their actual reality. and there is zero chances that you even speak and write their local language . so i can't see why your opinion would have any value .
@@PHlophe I am not removed as I have many Chinese friends, some from Hong Kong and they have told me what life in China is like. Some of them even had a "European phone" while staying here so that Chinese authorities wouldn't be able to link their activities to their identity.
No Taiwanese wants to be chinese, nor recognizes to be. Unless they are the descendants of the KMT troops retreated to Taiwan after WW2
Moreover, China rules has no effect in Taiwan. They just bark louder is all.
Keep buying China goods... that’s how you feed the monster.
@@jully1744 so you never buy chinese product i guess?
But the united states literally ban venezuela and cuba, the hipocrecy
"but mommy! He did it too!!"
@@cyzcyt So you're saying it's okay to ban people but it's the reasoning? That's some biased judgement right there, who sets the criteria for what's okay and what isn't? If china sets the standards, then its okay to them but not okay for others, if US sets the standards its okay for them but not for others.
Either censorship is okay, or it isn't. Or if you want to set a yardstick, make sure it's fair.
@@cyzcyt Obviously China is a capitalist regime in a historically oppressed country and so naturally it has censorship and certain lacks of Democratic rights but the argument that the USA doesn't also censor its media is absurd. It has for decades had the intelligence agencies deeply embedded into traditional mainstream media like NYT, CNN and Fox News. None or hardly any are accurately reporting on the protests at the moment so what's up with that ? Also has America had continued same policies for the same what, 50 years ? Why is there a 2 party system which in reality is a one party system ? Same with the UK as well which though has more rights is still essentially only a superficially democratic country. Europe has more on the whole but they are quickly vanishing. Look at the protests in Gilet Jaune. Look at the censorship of Polanksi after his excellent film came out due to establishment concocted Metoo movement. Look at Assange rotting in prison right now held illegally for an extradition process which the UN has said is politically motivated torture.
Not everything is black and white
What is the movie called
Wow Quartz! You've gained a subscriber. Good feature.
Remember Donald Sterling? Anyone defending his freedom of speech?
Any company running in any country must be aware of the local PC culture or risk endangering it's business.
fine, but China pressures other countries, in other countries.. that's the problem..
Because most of them are corporations that have multinational businesses......they are not representing any country
Many Chinese people know what separatist means to china from thousands of years of history which is chaos which no one would want to have Especially nowadays because we have a peaceful life, and the economy is in its Momentum.
Just like American people are cautious about the racist issue, that's too have something to do with living in peace, in this topic, we are on the same page. It's the same thing.
I don't like this video try to tell people the Chinese try to use the money to interfere with others'” freedom of speech”. If there ever have only, that's out of defending for themselves, ”if you feel like you're not being seen at least the money will”
xiaodi sha delusional
@@BoycottChinaa And US has been fining, banning even kidnapping foreign companies and their executives for violation of US domestic sanction, even when companies does not do business in the US.
Julian Assange
Aaron Swartz
Chelsea Manning
Edward Snowden
All 'hurt the feelings' of the US govt.
Jeffry Epstein
John Lennon
Oh don't worry, they have whistleblowers in China too. Dead whistleblowers.
@@jimmybon9314 Although your concern for Muslim Uighurs is both admirable and genuine, it has largely been fostered by Western media sources and the US government, which have, heretofore, been overtly hostile toward pretty much every other Muslim/Islamic group -- even within the confines of our US borders. Do the same media outlets display the same degree of concern for the tens, if not hundreds of thousands, or even millions, of innocent people killed at the hands of the US military and its' allies abroad? Unfortunately not. And you are probably very unaware of these atrocities because the information resources you believe and trust, selectively censor and withold such factual information. Are you aware of the recently-discovered grossly exaggerated numbers and false claims associated with Uighur detention camps given by the few key individuals the US and its' NGOs have relied on? Such false information, propaganda and fabricated narratives, spread via the US media to the public, only serve to promote America's objective of dismantling China. If you are able to perform your own introspection and assessment of the overall big picture -- beyond just the struggle of the Uighurs and China, and beyond what the mainstream media dictates -- your perspectives may change.
@@craigslistseller9354 I'm with you I love money too
Love this content and indepht journalism! KEEP IT UP Quartz team! You have now gained an avid viewer (:
This reminds-me of one of the french monarch from 1700s, in order to gain control of the all land in french he decided to buy a lavish castle or resort ,mansion and invited all the royals there for the week ,which they came because they wanted to go to new place. They made sure to walk on egg shells when it came to him , ex, they cried when he cried ,laugh when he laugh etc... if they did anything that he did not approve or like they would be sent back and ban from the coming back (idk know if i got it fully correctly)
So people can't speak their mind because they are greedy? Who's fault is that?
Desire is the root of all suffering. Problem is when the greedy attempt to control others.
"Hurting the feelings of the Chinese people"
Hey, I remember this.
This is Charlie Hebdo again.
This documentation is extremely biased. It is trying to picture china as unreasonable and arbitrary. Firstly, breaking China is more than "hurt Chinese's feelings". If I support New York should be an independent country or California to be an independent country. Does it hurt your feeling? Yes of course. But more importantly, it hurt your dignity, your identity, your interest. It hurts your everything. Secondly, a lot of protesters, especially celebrities, they dont care the ownership of Hongkong. They just want attention desperately. They dont know the whole issue, and they dont educate themselves. They only care their own interests.
@@designerjuly2437 Indeed, separating your country and breaking families does not just "hurt feelings". How ignorant when people are saying this!
I will admit in that respect that it is not the same as Charlie Hebdo. This is not taken to be outsiders criticizing a culture, it is taken to be internal dissidents fracturing China's national unity.
Most Americans, and maybe most Westerners generally, today, do not strongly believe in national unity or national identity, and they would favor the idea of the self-determination of a group of people like the people of Hong Kong to consider themselves separate from a larger group.
It's actually a recurring joke here that California, or Texas, or some other state, should secede from the union and be an independent country. It seems likely to be a _bad economic idea_ in any case, but the value placed on self-determination here is such that it's regularly put forth as that kind of joking statement. The suggestion is never considered to be an offense against anyone's dignity, or identity either, because, as stated before, identity is very individualistic here.
So, in short, that particular angle is not going to work for trying to convince Americans that the protests are wrong. Try harder.
@@AexisRai How about this one: Separatism in PRC = Racism in the U.S.
(this comment intents no offense to any group of people)
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS FASCISM DISGUISED AS MANNERS.
If you have a voice, you HAVE TO speak up. Sooner or later we are going to have to TAKE A STAND against authoritarianism. Sooner or later it will spread to us.
1:08 "people outside of mainland China now have to watch what they say" Yes, Americans used to say "Chinks" and n-world all the time.
Racial terms suck, can be inflammatory and hurtful. But censorship without context is just as harmful. I think the intent was toward constructive expression without fear. Anti political party sentiment online won't get me jail time, but if I have family in an oppressive regime they may face retribution for my speech.
@@chileprotestpolicevideos8162 It's not censorship without context, this video just diden't show you the context, and make the chinese seems like bloking everybody for no reason.
this is what happens when money controls everything.
watchulla capitalism baby
New York, New York
Ahh yes i see, the floor is made out of floor
So I'm curious does China actually allow free press at all as in media can show investigative journalism in any area e.g politics , how the country run or if the politician is crap?
8:55 "afraid to speak their minds..but that's now expanding to HK, Taiwan". This is incorrect. Taiwan (which has never been ruled by China CCP for one seccond) are not afraid to speak, they are more vocal than ever with many young people who previously didn't care about politics now being active.
Tian Ko
The actors, singers, and businessmen from Taiwan working or have business in China....
@@bctvanw So ? Look at Taiwanese identity polls, in China you can't say you're a Taiwanese and not a Chinese. Over half in Taiwan say they're Taiwanese only, only like 3% consider themselves Chinese.
Agreed. No one is Taiwan or Hong Kong is afraid to speak their mind, because HK and Taiwanese are not weak.
Tian Ko, you are in the independent nation of Taiwan? How has the Kurd betrayal been received by your country?
@@thedamnedatheist Kurds are so far geopolitically removed from Taiwan, general public do not know about them. Just like a average Kurd would likely know nothing about Taiwan cross strait or HK protests, not sure why you bringing up Kurds have much to do with Chinese interference.
The countries who insist to help other countries for democracy and freedom,Pls give all the wealth back to the countries who you robbed or took it from coloniz or the wars.
i am just trying to order He shou woo mushroom online, i feel like watching this clip, i have been flagged lol!
Great production. You definitely get the vibe.
Just because they had 2 billion citizens, doesn't mean they are most powerful in the world!
If you wants somebody's money, you shouldn't be spitting at their face. How hard it that to figure out? I would say that a universal value.
China spits itself in the face.
@@nal8503 Atheists spit at Heaven. Their spit will come back upon their faces! :-)
Ancient China cared about Heaven. Modern China worships money.
I really can't understand how all these people can't understand that... If you don't want to deal with their way of doing things in their own country then cut all ties with them it's simple... Let's see where that will get us 😂
This is not strictly censorship- nobody has forbidden these companies to say anything. China’s acting out freedom to boycott. If you want to make money of them, its not too much to ask to respects their sovereignity is it? What do these companies know about asian politics anyway
There seem to be more than a few people on here with English language names & ordinary language skills. How do you say syntax in Mandarin?
if you're satisfied knowing just grammar instead of syntax, 语法. i'm curious about your sentence actually - what do you mean exactly by "ordinary"?
@@baxzyc it's a fairly common usage. Not terrible , but not good either. Not an insult, but not praise either.
would you do a video on foreign companies doing business in countries but yet vocal about the government. what would happen to those business.?
3:21 Living life without hypocrisy, is an excellent social behavior.
Guess there will be a lot of Winnie the Pooh’s for this year’s halloween
In a nutshell; if you want to make money in China, don't hurt their feelings.
There is no language called "Taiwanese".
7:08 There is only one China. Taiwan is not China.
Tony ROC is the abbreviation for the Republic of China. I honestly don’t know why they bother having that name around still.
What does the passport cover of Taiwan says? REPUBLIC OF CHINA
The rich always win.
巨人の肩 Not if you work in the Chinese entertainment industry apparently.
One thing, FREEDOM IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN HURT FEELINGS. Watched first 2 minutes of the video.
Damn it! I finished my Risk Management course three months ago. This could have been a great topic to discuss.
Since you enter in to a country you have to respect the written rules / laws and the unwritten rules and laws We all know that. You travel. You work. You operate in china you have to follow them. Every country it’s the same and you have to follow it !
@Tom Koller The capitalists sold their out of trends patents to Chinese, then they claimed that they've been stolen by Chinese?? What a hypocrite!! The most of those patents China bought even not from the US but Germany and Japan!!
Look for in YT Charlie Rose's interview with Sir James Goldsmith for more information.
By the way, I think they deleted my comment, could anyone please set this video's main comment section to "recent comments first" and look for the following comment? I would really appreciate it.
"This ignorant, ill-intentioned and purposeful demonization of China is such disgusting propaganda I cannot believe how anyone would prey on the ignorance of most people about China's reality, both historical, cultural, political and social, all of which this video is grossly misrepresenting in a malicious manner intended to either disseminate someone's, some group's or government's twisted corrupt agenda. Or Quartz is simply that viciously hostile and subversive in a way fully born out of malice to the foreign power that is legitimately rivaling the US and the West's economic dominance."
If Zara, Versace, McDonald's and Marriott...apologize, you can imagine the power of the Chinese government.
To be exact, the power of Chinese consumer. The 1st to face this is Japan after WW1 for taking Chinese territory in shandong. If you say, the government should not resort to preventive detention in Xinjiang, that I understand.
I may have missed it but there is not one instance where you have connected how their censorship affects me personally. "My house my rules" is China's cover and "Freedom" is our cover. Their outrage is matched by our own sense of what free will is. Businesses can take the "righteous" path, criticize their policies and choose not to apologize or not do business. If China suffers economically maybe they will start overlooking some of these, it is up to them.
Excellent, well-made video. You just earned another subscriber.
So....We have to do business with them, even if they say something that we don't like? Where is our right to choose who we gonna do business with? Is It the time that the shop choose customers not the other way around?
But when youtube promotes anti Chinese video (not talking about this video) and channels it is okay to choose money over political views okay. It is only a political stance if it doesnt fit yours.
You want to make money from a country, you gonna follow the rule of that country and respect the cultural/ traditions of that country. Why is hard to understand? The most important thing to China is UNITY! As a proud Chinese, I don’t tolerate any language/behaviour which intends to separate our great China with 5000 years’ of history, the longest lasting civilisation.
After this im watching...."Making the world's hottest peppers"
Let's see how many "wumao" will write comments here.....
Many like you.
@@AndrewManook English, please?
恩恩，同时数数有多少美分，反正闲着也是闲着……
CH*NESE COMMUNISTS KILLLED MILLIONS FROM 1940 TO PRESENT DAY
@@supergay6479 When compares what western has done (even today) , nothing matters
Is political correct also self-censorship in western countries?
And I don't think any country would accept separatism.
No in most countries outside of China, celebrities can say whatever they like and the government has no right to censor people.
D sure, why would they censor who support China's separatism
D but when it comes to them, I think Spain just did an example
@@yhzh755 Nobody outside of China cares about "China's separatism". The 5 demands of the HK protests have nothing to do with separatism, and Taiwan already functions as a separate country.
I hate tankies, and any authoritarian government.
I don't get the basic logic here. If China is not happy with what one said and dont want to buy from him or her, does she allowed to do so? China did not say you are not allow to say so. You are protected by law to say my girlfriend is fat, I am protected by law to not buy anything from you any more?
Ok ok enough china enough hongkong, lets talk about Catalonia
Spain is a western country so it won't get as much coverage.
Gilbert no
Literally hurrying anything they deem unfavorable to the party.
Imagine having a whole country bully you. Geez.
thanks for shedding light on tzuyu's hostage video (6:51)
the kpop group she's in (twice) does zero promotions in china.
it still became the most successful and profitable kpop girl group in history.
a great example that firms do not need to tolerate chinese antics to do very well.