Bro why are you using Gear 5th in Wano, the REAL Gear 5th feats are in Egghead where there multiple times where Luffy creates objects out of nothing, so that supports the Reality Manipulation. And Gear 5th has even better FTL feats now. Luffy still loses I believe but I want you to be more accurate when scaling what Gear 5th can actually do.
She isn't genuinely a di*k either. She has soft spot, tough to reach but it is there. And her relationship with her sister is pretty much the best way to see her character. She is alone all the time because people are scared of her, and her good intentioned but overprotective approach towards Fubuki just drives her away even more.
@@Agent-57 Man stop the bullcrap her character meant to be a bi#*&h cliche. But turn out to be a good tsundere annoying but fun. .... Never glorify anything about tatsumaki. Nothing about her cute at all. ( The dog will cutely growls until it bites the f out of u )
Yes It's a question because the debate comes from whether she can put up her psychic barrier up on time at the start Cos if its fully bloodlusted and flashy goes for a flashy slash instantly then that's arguably a problem Not saying he wins but there clearly was a debate for a reason
@@jacquesmonreal2930 but this is sonic before he gets quite a buff At that point flashy is so much faster Sonic at this point is on base gale and hellfires level pretty much
This should be obvious from the start. If Tatsumaki knows FF is there from the beginning, there should be no way he can hurt her at all. His only option would be to assassinate her outside of a duel scenario when she's not aware of him. But once she knows she's in a fight, Flashy better run and run fast or he's a dead man.
Im curious where you search to say that FF vs Tatsumaki or other vs are "highly debated" you said it because Reddit,RUclips, Twitter or discord ? Because i never seen FF vs Tats as a one of the most debated vs tbh
Broooo!!! I'm soo happy you took note of the "God intervening in Tats fight" post I made in one of your video. So concerning if it's true or not can be decided (easily to me) from what she did AFTER coughed up blood. Like I said before, she performed way more crazy feats after reaching said "limit" so I can say that's not her limit and it's higher than that. NB: it's also clear she's was stressed out for a long period of time due to certain circumstances (I mean, we could have seen better feats if she fought psychorochi from the start 1v1 with no hinderances). Also, thanks to Tats vs Saitamas fight, we can see what happens when she exerts herself within a smaller time frame. No blood coughing, no head bleeding (although this happened in the webcomic). She passed out completely (even though that would be VERY BAD if that where to happen in an actual fight). So anyways, just as you have said, unless we get a straight answer from murata, it's gonna be just my thoughts (and some others)
Boros annihilates everyone including Tatsumaki as they have no feats to hold a candle to Boros's power and speed although Flashy Flash could outspeed Boros maybe and maybe Tatsumaki can create a powerful enough barrier to block his attacks.
Thank you Hundred , Sonic in the webcomics managed to hit Flashy Flash , which was retconned in the Manga , the webcomics are very weird powerscaling wise , Darkshine also scales higher in the webcomics compared to the Manga , that's why i don't include the webcomics in my videos , but started thinking i should
I have some "why _ vs _ isn't close" suggestions for the future, as follows.. Mike Wazowski Vs. Manako Kengan Fighters Vs. B Class Heroes (without Fubuki) Mosquito Girl Vs. Armored Gorilla Wakatsuki Takeshi Vs. Tanktop Tiger Fuhrer Ugly Vs. Big Billy (Powerpuff Girls) Spiral Garou Vs. Golden Sperm Tiger/Demon Level Monster's Vs. Spider-Man's Rouges Gallery Deep Sea King Vs. Rhino Wrestler Hanma Family Vs. Tank Topper Army Pickle (Baki) Vs. Gums Spawn Vs. God (One Punch Man)
@@engin3786 Average Darkshine fan on copium Even platinum stated Flashy Flash was weaker without his sword. Plus Platinum thought Flashy was the strongest a human could get. Golden said Darkshine was far too weak lmao. Also Darkshine has a bruise on His cheek after Golden Sperm One punched him, while Flashy looks good after the beatdown he took from Platinum Flashy Flash unarmed >>>> Fraudshine with confidence.
@@entity.x Where does It even say that? Platinum was said to be the prefect 54 Trillion merge, and was confident on killing King. Golden didn't want to fight King alone. Plus Atomic Samurai states he's got a More powerful aura. Having Big muscles in the series doesn't even mean you are stronger when characters like Garou, Genos, Metal Bat, Saitama have greater super strength than all Brawlers.
@@mikeym.4724 Buddy, I was joking. I ain't reading all that & I was simply imitating some of Darkshine's fans that think Platinum S is weaker than Golden S.
@@orochieditzz"tank" Ok and its about speed All she did was aim dodge them mainly Tho ig once she got her full concentration she did react to it straight on But still That's not light speed not even relativistic arguable
FF should be mftl, first Second, u can dodge light speed attack without being light speed yourself. One of the greatest mistakes of all "power scalers", jjk, dbz, bnha and even ds fans love to use this as prove. It doesn't scale her nowhere except "she's fast lol" Third, those beams aren't prooved being ls @@orochieditzz
This is basically a draw if he decides to evade her. Her movements can’t really keep up with his max speed, but his attacks will never get through her psychic shield. If she does land a telekinetic attack though, he just dies on the spot, but I think if she doesn’t know at all where he is (because of his speed), she won’t be able to restrain him with her powers (since I imagine this require having knowledge of their physical location so you can focus on it). Still though, Tatsumaki has the advantage since she has a possible win but he doesn’t, unless you allow him to ambush her at close range while her barrier is down/at low power (like an assassination situation).
@@DutchDread LMAO reread the manga he is WAY faster than Sonic. It’s not even close. He blitzed two dragon level ninjas at once in their monster states, despite both of them already being faster than Sonic in their weaker human forms.
@@DutchDread Damn.... Crazy that you say that. Flashy is brutally faster than Sonic, and the one time Sonic was compared to Tatsumaki, he didnt even get his power spike yet.
I think flashy flash can't defeat platinum sperm even with sword and even garou he maybe compete them with speed but he can't damage them plat s and garou are more durable than darkshine
Platinum Is overall More powerful, but Flashy Flash could land a fatal blow if Platinum doesn't use His Full power from the start. (If we consider he said Flashy was More powerful with His sword enough to hurt them). The only reason Flashy Flash in my opinion doesn't get outmatched Is because of his techniques, experience and attack potency with the sword. Platinum Is overall More powerful physically: -More Durability -Stronger -Faster -And with a More powerful Aura. While Flashy Flash has -Better techniques -Skill -Attack potency (with His sword) -IQ and experience -(Agility maybe) Overall Platinum Is More powerful but Flashy doesn't get as outclassed as he does with Monster Garou (who on top of being physically superior to Platinum Also has God-like techniques and regeneration). Think of Flashy Flash like a really powerful Dragon and Platinum like a weak Above Dragon.
I'm sorry but before even watching this video u can't compare tatsumaki to flashyflash. Tatsumaki slams and its not close After watching yeah it isn't close. The only way i see flashy winning is if he were to attack her while she is offguard
I like to think Psychorochi is above all the Cadres including Platinum S who is proven to be better than flashy flash although we can make the argument that Platinum S actually has a chance to stand up against her for at least a little...I believe Psychorochi has got way more going for her in her arsenal than Platinum S does and the fact that Tatsumaki proved that she was better once she could focus speaks volumes about her capabilities...Now let's make the argument that Flashy flash has got the capability to kill her before she can activate her psychic powers...I don't believe that Tatsumaki hasn't thought of such a thing happening by...lets say a fast monster attacking her..I believe that she could very well have a permament barrier covering her at all times to eliminate such possibilities or she stays on watch for that with other ways such as making replicas of her body with Debris just like we saw her do in her fight with Psychorochi...and we yet don't know how she would react to an actual opponent who is fast....I don't remember her fighting anybody other than sonic who has commendable speed...I think the chance of her instincts being absolutely inferior to such people though is not that high
It actually is close if we take the multiplier from Black S to Platinum S literally. Their AP would both be in the multi Continental ranges with Tats having the massive advantage in range and versatility and Flash having the massive advantage in speed The issue is, Tats can easily destroy Flash’s sword (which is less durable than his body), but Flash is so fast that Tats can never hit him, even with AOE based attacks since from his perspective Tats would be stopped in time And as Hellfire and Gale implied, it’s possible to blitz psychics. So it’s whether you believe Flash’s speed and close enough AP can blitz and one shot before the barriers go up or get through Tats’ barriers since he can probably hit her shield thousands of times before her brain even processes he’s fighting her
Tatsumaki is still faster than buffed sonic. So the speed difference isn't as much as you think. Flashy flash cannot possibly destroy the barriers, so all tatsumaki needs to do is cover 100sq miles in a barrier and compress it, thus trapping and crushing flashy flash
It’s a shame that most people dismiss opm in verse scaling due to its namesake, how op saitama is and the perception of it being only a gag manga despite the fact that it genuinely has so of the best and most consistent while simultaneously contested power scaling of any manga
@@ahero3445That's good point actually, he got a weak sword. If it can't handle the stress of getting pulled out of the wall, then it won't be able to breakthrough Tatsumaki's barrier without breaking first.
Quick correction: Platinum S didn't actually one shot Darkshine, but because it was his first time actually being hurt from a attack, he had a mental breakdown, though he could've still fought for a while (i might be wrong tho)
Here is a VERY strange way for tats to kill flashy flash, basically. When she gets a hold of him, she, hm, How can I say this in a non sus way... Twist his thingy until it comes out, then fire at at max speed straight in his head, destroying his head
Flashy Flash is not above Darkshine in durability. As I remember, Darkshine wasn't really hurt from Golden S attacks. He was more mentally scarred than anything.
Flashy Flash wins, if the fight starts in a surprise, he can simply kill Tatsumaki with his speed without her being able to react but if he misses his first and surprise strike, he will have a hard time
First of all no she can easily react if flashy tries to sneak on her Secondly " hard time"??? If it becomes a head on fight , tats one shots flashy flash lol
Literally nothing he can do. In the webcomic Tatsumaki can still have her barriers on even when knocked unconscious, FF couldn't even sneak attack or blitz her.
Tatsumaki's speed is pretty high because Psyhos actually speed blitz Flashy Flash. When Psyhos flew past Flashy Flash and Saitama, Flashy Flash couldn't even recognize what flew by while Saitama actually saw that it was a woman who flew by. So if Psyhos can speed blitz Flashy Flash, then Tatsumaki's speed is far greater. Flashy Flash wasn't doing anything when Psyhos showed up. Flashy Flash was just riding on mine cart and talking to Saitama, he wouldn't be caught off guard doing that because he is in a monster association base, so he would keep his guard up. So if Psyhos can speed blitz Flashy Flash then in her Psyrochi form, she can easily react Flashy Flash, Platinum S, and Awaken Monster Garou. This means it would be easy for Tatsumaki to keep up with Flashy Flash’s speed. Plus, Genos was able to measure Awaken Monster Garou's power level, but Genos wasn't able to measure Psyrochi's power level saying it is unreadable or limitless. Meaning Psyrochi is far stronger than Awaken Monster Garou and Flashy Flash.
Flashy never uses His 100% at all times. Had he'd been using his full power he would've killed the Octopus and Hellfire and Gale from the get go. Tatsumaki just doesn't have speed feats to put her in the level of Flashy Flash. Flashy Flash performed even a better feat by seeing the 0 Punch of Saitama on Cosmic Garou. No other Hero could see that, other than maybe Genos (but he wasn't affected by the radiation, like Flashy Flash was).
@@mikeym.4724 except reaction speed is separate from movement speed. In fact, Flashy Flash reaction speed would be higher than his movement speed just so he can fight in those light speed movements. The fact that Flashy Flash couldn't even recognize what flew by, while Saitama actually saw it was a woman who flew by means Flashy Flash got speed blitz by Psykos. Even if Psykos can speed blitz Flashy Flash by accident, Flashy Flash’s reaction speed wouldn’t be at 50% it would be much higher. & if Psykos can speed blitz that, then Tatsumaki can easily speed blitz a full power Flashy Flash. Plus, Flashy Flash wasn’t even at full power against Platinum S & Awaken Garou. Flashy Flash was heavily nerf before fighting Platinum S & Awaken Garou, because Flashy Flash was already losing so much of his confidence after meeting two god tier characters "Saitama & Blast" and losing his sword "Flashy Flash's main weapon". Flashy Flash was nerfed so badly that Platinum S easily noticed that Flashy Flash was already weakened. And Flashy Flash was only getting worse fighting Platinum S & Awaken Garou. So Psykos’s speed would be closer to a full power Flashy Flash than both Platinum S & Awaken Garou speed because those two were fighting a more heavily nerf Flashy Flash than the one Psykos speed blitz.
@@ethanaguilera7522 For starters Flashy Flash has proven he can react Faster than what he can move. In His Battle with Garou and Platinum he was still reacting to them after he had realized they were Faster (at the start of chapter 156 he gets hit by Platinum and Garou goes for a kick that he evades and proceeds to say they were Faster than him). Whatever explanation you wanna say nothing puts Tatsumaki at the speed of the constelation fight. Even if you say that Tatsumaki Is relative to Sonic, in the never Chapters Flashy Is not even Going all out on Sonic and has proven he Is by far Faster (if you consider he looked quite shock on His Battle with Platinum and Garou, because they surpassed him or even in His Battle with Saitama). Nothing suggest he Is impressed with Sonic. If you wanna say Tatsumaki beat Saitama's speed because she lifted the car before Saitama did. I would say It holds no weight as Saitama wasn't even trying, Is like when Flashy Flash evaded the initial attempt of Saitama to try to grab him during their "match". Is not like Psykos "speedblitzed" Flashy when he was using his full power. Based off feats Flashy Is way Faster anyway.
@@mikeym.4724 Except I already explained that Psykos speed blitz Flashy Flash’s reaction speed. & even if Flashy Flash was holding back when Psykos flew by, Flashy Flash would be at least above 50% and not lower because he is planning to fight something stronger than Gale Wind & Hellfire Flame. So if Psykos speed blitz the reaction speed of a above 50% Flashy Flash, then that means Psykos would be as fast or faster than a 100% Flashy Flash. Because Psykos to speed blitz a adove 50% Flashy’s reaction speed doesn’t mean Psykos’s movement speed is only a 60% Flashy’s reaction speed, speed blitzing someone is a big Feat in scaling. Plus Psykos is more likely faster than Platinum S, because Flashy Flash was heavily nerfed before fighting Garou and Platinum S. Since Flashy Flash was already losing so much of his confidence before fighting Garou because he met two god tired characters "Saitama and Blast" and Flashy Flash also lost his sword "Flashy Flash's main weapon". And when Flashy Flash was fighting Awaken Garou & Platinum S, he only got worse. So Awaken Garou & Platinum S was fighting a more nerf Flashy Flash than the one Psykos speed blitz. & If Psykos can nearly match the speed of a 100% Flashy Flash, then Tatsumaki is far far faster than a 100% Flashy Flash.
@@mikeym.4724 Also on @Yacine latest post, I explained my argument better there than I did here with you. Sorry about that, but my argument is on there as well.
No, lifting a car before Saitama did (on a saitama not even trying aint a feat). If we go by that Flashy was able to avade the initial move of Saitama in their "fight". Tatsumaki has never display speed like that of Flashy Flash (fighting 2 above dragons in fractions of a second all over Z city). Even if you wanna say she scales to him in terms of speed for Sonic, Sonic aint as fast, as the new chapters prove. I love Tatsumaki but people love riding on her psychic dildo.
I’m surprised this is even a debate, I mean isn’t it clear tatsumaki could defeat any s class hero below her Edit: I apologise for forgetting about King, it was foolish and disrespectful of me to forget him in such a way😔
@@onizukasensei5321 The webcomic, if I remember correctly, has statements of her keeping her barrier up even while asleep (or was it the manga that said that?), and the webcomic has a statement of her having a passive barrier. The manga also has her keep up her barrier around all of Z-City while unconscious.
@@onizukasensei5321 Yeah, but it might take me a bit. One of the ones I remember off the top of my head is the passive barrier statement in the webcomic, which happens during her fight with the Sperms/Spermatozoa. She keeps her city-wide barrier going while unconscious in the manga during the Jet Psykos-Orochi fight. I'll make sure to send them soon.
the only Cursed Spirit who posses a threat to the monster association is Mahito, no one would be able to kill him since you need to attack the soul, something no one in One Punch Man has been able to do.
Tastumaki is ALWAYS surrounded by an impassable psichic barrier that works even when she is inconscious. Tatsumaki is not bound to be faster than Flash. She has just to create an invisibile barrier around him large enough not to be detected. After she cages him, it's game over.
The attack is slowed down an infinity amount of times within a certain area around his body, like think an invisible barrier of his whole body only the attack approaches then slows down an infinity amount of times so it does not reach him@@entity.x
I feel if 1 character has to have a certain condition like the other having to be unfocused then it kinda means it losses but a 1v1 shud always be known by both parties
its kind of weird to point out that tatsumaki cant be faster than flashy flash because speed is his speciality but hes also somehow more durable than darkshine when durability is his speciality
You all forgot Tatsu can defeat all cadres at the same time. In the Webcomic Tatsu stopped Monster Garou from moving and stated if she was at full health she could have defeated him. Flash 1v1 him and losed horribly..
@@dragonpiece6721 that's just a taunt from Garou, as he likes to do with heroes, it's not a determinative of anything. According to One, full power she could beat Golden S, Garou beat him pre-awakening, Flashy lost to Awakened Garou, Garou said he would have been ugly if his past self fought Flashy. Webcomic doesn't draw a clear winner.
@@arnigeir1597 Well she managed to stop him for awhile being injured so she can definitely keep up with Awakened. And WC Flashy is probably equal to Golden Sperm from his showings.
@@dragonpiece6721 What you just said doesnt make sense. How could flashy be equal to Golden S if he literally just clarified that Golden S lost to pre awakened garou, and Flashy overcame that only to lose to awakened garou??
That giant octopus that flashy flash cut up with little effect when the monster association first attacked, but Tatsumaki twisted it up in a couple seconds.
Yeah, that was probably the greatest 1 to 1 example of the difference between the two. With FF zipping around, Tatsumaki can just pretty much "I win" at any given moment.
Dude i get that tatsumaki always win but flashy flash was one of the last to fall from the cosmic radiation, and platinum S is stronger than golden s wich killed in a second ugly fhurer (idk how to pronounce it) the same guy that knocked out tatsumaki, a weakened tatsumaki sure but flashy flash also didnt have his sword, just the fact that he could go toe a toe with 2 dragon level threads with no sword is a awesome feat
Tatsumaki were more impressed with the DC of PsOrochi blast than speed of attack. It cut part of the f ing planet. And tatsu’s defence could easily block that blast, so her defence at least planetary level, she can easily do barriers that can shrink and not give FF space. Actually, the only chance for FF is to kill her with max speed before she realise he wants to kill her. Other way, she negs in every way.
Cutting off a continent = Planet+?? So I guess a block of C-4 can blow up the Moon too. I bet every time I cut off a bit of the ground I'm actually Multi Continental. Your logic is completely sound and understandable.
Well, I can see Psycho-Orochi obliterating Armored Boros at the very least, althrough she would be pretty much blitzed by his Released form, I can see her using x300 Gravity if that helps in anything
@@higorss platinum can't break his shields, but, tatsumaki tires to maintain them and prevent them from breaking. If she can't catch him sooner or later Tatsumaki will run out of energy to maintain her shields unless she can catch him but because of Platinum's speed it is difficult but not impossible. That's why I have doubts about this fight.
People overwank light speed in anime vs battles. They don't understand that in anime light speed is only marginally faster than the speed of sound, which is only marginally faster than a really fast person. Tatsumaki easily keeps up with Sonic, who the latest chapters have shown to be slower, but comparable, to flashy flash. I have the same chance at beating Tatsumaki that FF has, namely none.
Sonic was never depicted to be as Fast as Flashy for that matter. The newer Chapters portray Sonic as a weaker version of Flashy Flash. Flashy Is not going all out like he did with Garou and Platinum.
@@mikeym.4724 Doesn't matter, point is that they're comparable enough that Sonic actually has stuff to do. The "he's not going all out" stuff is more baseless wanking. I am sure he's not giving his 100%, but that doesn't mean we should act like he's actually a thousand times as strong and we should just ignore this fight. Freaking Metal Bat was fast enough to be relative to freaking Garou at some point. "NaAh, GaRoU WaS MucH FaSteR!". Yeah, like twice as fast, not the 10.000 times as fast that he should have been. Speeds mean absolutely NOTHING in manga.
Flash couldn't take down Sonic even after using his full power against him just last chapter. Tatsumaki literally flicked a finger at Sonic and he was done a few chapters ago. This is a no-brainer.
Is not like he was trying with Sonic. We've seen the full extend of his power on the Garou/Platinum fight, it isnt like Sonic is currently on Par with him.
@@A.D.G-jr4jobro he literally said "I never thought I'd have to use my ultimate technique against you" how is that "not even trying?" It's his ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE. And then Sonic emerged barely scratched and Flash said with disbelief "He defended against Flashy Kicks?!". I do concede that Sonic was presented as the weaker one after that point against the ninjas, but he is still clearly in Flash's ballpark, that feat is a clear confirmation of that. And, once again, Tatsumaki beat Sonic by flicking her finger, and while being fully occupied with Saitama. The difference is so obvious, this matchup is embarassing to even consider.
@@mitromney Only thing I agree with is that Sonic is relative to Flashy Flash to a great extent, but saying that Tatsumaki could deal with either Sonic or Flashy Flash with ease is just absurd, we haven't seen Tatsumaki really operate at lightspeed levels and has been seen having trouble with fast opponents, Sonic suddenly appearing out of no where and being dismissed quickly after was clearly supposed to be comedic, not to mention that Sonic had absolutely no trouble dodging his own shuriken that Tatsumaki threw back (Presumably at lightspeeds since Sonic threw him and since Sonic is relative to FF which is FTLS) just to immediately 'lose' because of dome dog's dookie shouldn't be taken seriously. Mostly since it was purely comical and the fact that Tastumaki had nothing to do with the dog's dookie making Sonic slip.
Great Content As Usual Yacine, but I Still Don't Believe That FF is More Durable Than Darkshine, Cuz One Garou Absolutely Bullied Darkshine, Two, He Got Absolutely Scared By Golden S Before Golden S Punched Him.
Spiral Garou (a far weaker version than even the sleeping Monster Form) Was already bypassing the durability of Darkshine by making internal damage. Flashy Scales way above Spiral Garou. Golden Sperm was far stronger and More powerful than Darkshine (even compared to the Monsters he fought). Golden low diffed Vomitted Fuhrer Ugly, while Darkshine was evenly matched with Vomitted Fuhrer Ugly (Vomitted Fuhrer Ugly clashed a double super alloy bazooka with Darkshine). Platinum is far More powerful than Golden Sperm. Platinum was confident on killing King, while Golden was afraid. Even Atomic Samurai states Platinum had a More powerful aura. Flashy Flash was able to shake Platinum with His barehands with the Flash Fist (It didn't make almost any damage, but still). Flashy Flash performed better against stronger versions of the Monsters Garou fought. Flashy would even destroy Darkshine without a sword. Now you could say Darkshine has a More durable skin as he Is able to withstand Sharp objects, while Flashy Flash was cut a little with steel wires. This Is True but the moment something can bypass the skin of Darkshine it's over for him. Flashy Flash Is able to endure a lot More blunt brute force, this why he Is More durable.
Also Flashy Flash in the manga Is way More powerful and stronger than what he was on the webcomic. On top of being Faster for His contelation fight, Flashy Is lot More durable. In the webcomic Flashy Flash was instantly Taken down the moment Garou hit him with a kick. In the manga he was able to endure a lot of hits on screen from Platinum and he was able to Tank an early version of the God Calamity Slayer fist of Garou in Chapter 155. So yeah Flashy Flash was buffed in the manga and Darkshine wasn't.
Spiral garou was matching darkshines blows and cld make him cough up blood Flashy can take harder blunt force attacks but darkshines durability is better in the sense he can take piercing damage too and he's more sturdy Flashy was tanking blows from monster garou who's far stronger than spiral garou and even one of his special dragon slayer combination attacks THen ofc from platinum sperm who called flashy the pinnacle of what superhumans can do in physical stats Plus ofc he's stronger than golden sperm who even against a confident darkshine shld be at least a bit stronger
you didnt mention that tatsumaki was able to outspeed saitama very briefly when we caught the car that was about to be hit by debris of course its just one feat but i think flash isnt so fast that he can just blitz her i dont think its possible i think she can keep up even if he is faster in movement
Sorry for the mistake of saying Tatsumaki is Faster than FF , Please join the discord server discord.gg/6nPGvkuQvA
But that wasn't a mistake...
Outstanding!
Bro why are you using Gear 5th in Wano, the REAL Gear 5th feats are in Egghead where there multiple times where Luffy creates objects out of nothing, so that supports the Reality Manipulation. And Gear 5th has even better FTL feats now.
Luffy still loses I believe but I want you to be more accurate when scaling what Gear 5th can actually do.
bro tatsumaki is the only bratty anime character i would respect, because she is one of those handful who can actually back up the trashy attitude.
I used to not like her until they showed her backstory , she is an amazing character
She isn't genuinely a di*k either. She has soft spot, tough to reach but it is there. And her relationship with her sister is pretty much the best way to see her character. She is alone all the time because people are scared of her, and her good intentioned but overprotective approach towards Fubuki just drives her away even more.
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Man stop the bullcrap her character meant to be a bi#*&h cliche.
But turn out to be a good tsundere annoying but fun.
.... Never glorify anything about tatsumaki. Nothing about her cute at all. ( The dog will cutely growls until it bites the f out of u )
@@YacineScales yeah, still not the biggest fan of her, but its nice to see her real human touch at times
What the fu*k is you problem ? Character analysis to complicated for you kid ? Should I spoon feed it to you ?@@OPM07
I have no idea how this is a debate.
But then again, people debate Superman Vs Batman asif Bruce had a chance.
So I shouldn't be surprised.
Flashy despite his speed
Is never breaking her psychic barrier (who could withstand the continental slice).
Was this ever a question?
Yes
It's a question because the debate comes from whether she can put up her psychic barrier up on time at the start
Cos if its fully bloodlusted and flashy goes for a flashy slash instantly then that's arguably a problem
Not saying he wins but there clearly was a debate for a reason
She can even come with the same speed with sonic. Idk if it is her max speed when tatsumaki fought saitama.
@@jacquesmonreal2930 but this is sonic before he gets quite a buff
At that point flashy is so much faster
Sonic at this point is on base gale and hellfires level pretty much
@@onizukasensei5321
She always has her barrier up.
She has her barrier up 24/7 (like gojo lol)
@@onizukasensei5321
This should be obvious from the start. If Tatsumaki knows FF is there from the beginning, there should be no way he can hurt her at all. His only option would be to assassinate her outside of a duel scenario when she's not aware of him. But once she knows she's in a fight, Flashy better run and run fast or he's a dead man.
when did this even become a debate ?
Among the S class i think only Blast can beat Tatsumaki
Only Blast and King are capable to defeat her
ZombieMan too, he would just outlive her 😂
@@hastyhd5040no she can just send him to space
@@hastyhd5040if they WERE to fight, knowing they had to 1v1, she'd find him eventually ...
@@hastyhd5040 tatsumaki can make a little orb of Zombie Man. He would technically be still alive tho
Im curious where you search to say that FF vs Tatsumaki or other vs are "highly debated" you said it because Reddit,RUclips, Twitter or discord ? Because i never seen FF vs Tats as a one of the most debated vs tbh
Broooo!!! I'm soo happy you took note of the "God intervening in Tats fight" post I made in one of your video.
So concerning if it's true or not can be decided (easily to me) from what she did AFTER coughed up blood.
Like I said before, she performed way more crazy feats after reaching said "limit" so I can say that's not her limit and it's higher than that.
NB: it's also clear she's was stressed out for a long period of time due to certain circumstances (I mean, we could have seen better feats if she fought psychorochi from the start 1v1 with no hinderances).
Also, thanks to Tats vs Saitamas fight, we can see what happens when she exerts herself within a smaller time frame. No blood coughing, no head bleeding (although this happened in the webcomic). She passed out completely (even though that would be VERY BAD if that where to happen in an actual fight).
So anyways, just as you have said, unless we get a straight answer from murata, it's gonna be just my thoughts (and some others)
I've got a suggestion for next video and that is "Why Boros vs the S-Class (except blast) isn't close"
pretty sure he did this
@@bigfella23729 no he hasn't
Boros annihilates everyone including Tatsumaki as they have no feats to hold a candle to Boros's power and speed although Flashy Flash could outspeed Boros maybe and maybe Tatsumaki can create a powerful enough barrier to block his attacks.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki The S class does include Blast tbh
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiBlast would stomp Boros, but without him, Boros should win.
bro ur bloopers makes your videos 1 million% more fun to watch ur vids XDDD
Yessss man W matchup, you should do Webcomic Sonic vs some of these characters since he's damn near above dragon at this point
Thank you Hundred , Sonic in the webcomics managed to hit Flashy Flash , which was retconned in the Manga , the webcomics are very weird powerscaling wise , Darkshine also scales higher in the webcomics compared to the Manga , that's why i don't include the webcomics in my videos , but started thinking i should
@@YacineScalesu shld read the latest chapter he got a pretty large upgrade due to the demon blades
@@onizukasensei5321there's new chapters being introduced in the webcomic??
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki yh bro I think there's been like 3 recently
These are my two favorite OPM characters
Good video, now do Mob vs Tatsumaki.
Oh shit that would be intense
I have some "why _ vs _ isn't close" suggestions for the future, as follows..
Mike Wazowski Vs. Manako
Kengan Fighters Vs. B Class Heroes (without Fubuki)
Mosquito Girl Vs. Armored Gorilla
Wakatsuki Takeshi Vs. Tanktop Tiger
Fuhrer Ugly Vs. Big Billy (Powerpuff Girls)
Spiral Garou Vs. Golden Sperm
Tiger/Demon Level Monster's Vs. Spider-Man's Rouges Gallery
Deep Sea King Vs. Rhino Wrestler
Hanma Family Vs. Tank Topper Army
Pickle (Baki) Vs. Gums
Spawn Vs. God (One Punch Man)
Yacine pls do Flashy Flash (with no sword) vs Darkshine lol
As i don't know an april fools joke or something lol
Even with his sword it doesn't matter. Dude break just by stuck in the rubble.
@@engin3786
Average Darkshine fan on copium
Even platinum stated Flashy Flash was weaker without his sword. Plus Platinum thought Flashy was the strongest a human could get.
Golden said Darkshine was far too weak lmao.
Also Darkshine has a bruise on His cheek after Golden Sperm One punched him, while Flashy looks good after the beatdown he took from Platinum
Flashy Flash unarmed >>>> Fraudshine with confidence.
@@mikeym.4724 "B-but Platinum S is weaker th-than Golden S, he is just speedy, no no strength" 😭
@@entity.x
Where does It even say that?
Platinum was said to be the prefect 54 Trillion merge, and was confident on killing King. Golden didn't want to fight King alone.
Plus Atomic Samurai states he's got a More powerful aura.
Having Big muscles in the series doesn't even mean you are stronger when characters like Garou, Genos, Metal Bat, Saitama have greater super strength than all Brawlers.
@@mikeym.4724 Buddy, I was joking. I ain't reading all that & I was simply imitating some of Darkshine's fans that think Platinum S is weaker than Golden S.
Your video are awesome mate, nice comparisons, and very good research on each of them.
Nice video! It would be cool to see a fight with Drabonball characters
8th attempt of spamming requests for Genos vs Schwi(NGNL)
I’m seriously starting to wanna curse now…
U made a mistake by saying "tatsumaki is faster than ff" i really thought u were saying a bs for a sec there 😂
Obviously ff is faster
He is but not alote since taumaki tanked a light speed attack from psychos
@@orochieditzzlmao
How are u going to prove that's light speed
@@orochieditzz"tank"
Ok and its about speed
All she did was aim dodge them mainly
Tho ig once she got her full concentration she did react to it straight on
But still
That's not light speed not even relativistic arguable
FF should be mftl, first
Second, u can dodge light speed attack without being light speed yourself. One of the greatest mistakes of all "power scalers", jjk, dbz, bnha and even ds fans love to use this as prove. It doesn't scale her nowhere except "she's fast lol"
Third, those beams aren't prooved being ls
@@orochieditzz
Tatsumaki was flying saitama around the whole continent at ftl I'm pretty sure I've seen vids about the calculations
This is basically a draw if he decides to evade her. Her movements can’t really keep up with his max speed, but his attacks will never get through her psychic shield. If she does land a telekinetic attack though, he just dies on the spot, but I think if she doesn’t know at all where he is (because of his speed), she won’t be able to restrain him with her powers (since I imagine this require having knowledge of their physical location so you can focus on it). Still though, Tatsumaki has the advantage since she has a possible win but he doesn’t, unless you allow him to ambush her at close range while her barrier is down/at low power (like an assassination situation).
She can just launch an omnidirectional attack. If FF retreats, it's Tatsumaki's win anyway.
Flashy flash isn't fast enough for that, he is only marginally faster than Sonic, who wasn't fast enough to do anything to Tatsumaki.
@@DutchDread LMAO reread the manga he is WAY faster than Sonic. It’s not even close. He blitzed two dragon level ninjas at once in their monster states, despite both of them already being faster than Sonic in their weaker human forms.
@@DutchDread Damn.... Crazy that you say that. Flashy is brutally faster than Sonic, and the one time Sonic was compared to Tatsumaki, he didnt even get his power spike yet.
Who's stronger between Flashy Flash (with his blade) and Platinum S?
I think flashy flash can't defeat platinum sperm even with sword and even garou he maybe compete them with speed but he can't damage them plat s and garou are more durable than darkshine
Platinum Is overall More powerful, but Flashy Flash could land a fatal blow if Platinum doesn't use His Full power from the start. (If we consider he said Flashy was More powerful with His sword enough to hurt them).
The only reason Flashy Flash in my opinion doesn't get outmatched Is because of his techniques, experience and attack potency with the sword.
Platinum Is overall More powerful physically:
-More Durability
-Stronger
-Faster
-And with a More powerful Aura.
While Flashy Flash has
-Better techniques
-Skill
-Attack potency (with His sword)
-IQ and experience
-(Agility maybe)
Overall Platinum Is More powerful but Flashy doesn't get as outclassed as he does with Monster Garou (who on top of being physically superior to Platinum Also has God-like techniques and regeneration).
Think of Flashy Flash like a really powerful Dragon and Platinum like a weak Above Dragon.
Flashy might have the edge due to the AP amp, but bloodlusted Platinum should speed blitz
I so much love the bloopers 😂❤
Funfact: tatsumaki’s pose in the thumbnail was inspired by “awakening of psyche” art.
Who would win in a deathbattle in you're opinion
Comics magneto vs manga tatsumaki
Nuclear bomb vs coughing baby
Flashy's first L on this channel. Rip 3-0 win streak for my boy 😭 🙏
5:11 Nah that cut was foul LMAO
I'm sorry but before even watching this video u can't compare tatsumaki to flashyflash. Tatsumaki slams and its not close
After watching yeah it isn't close. The only way i see flashy winning is if he were to attack her while she is offguard
Man I love the bloopers
I like to think Psychorochi is above all the Cadres including Platinum S who is proven to be better than flashy flash although we can make the argument that Platinum S actually has a chance to stand up against her for at least a little...I believe Psychorochi has got way more going for her in her arsenal than Platinum S does and the fact that Tatsumaki proved that she was better once she could focus speaks volumes about her capabilities...Now let's make the argument that Flashy flash has got the capability to kill her before she can activate her psychic powers...I don't believe that Tatsumaki hasn't thought of such a thing happening by...lets say a fast monster attacking her..I believe that she could very well have a permament barrier covering her at all times to eliminate such possibilities or she stays on watch for that with other ways such as making replicas of her body with Debris just like we saw her do in her fight with Psychorochi...and we yet don't know how she would react to an actual opponent who is fast....I don't remember her fighting anybody other than sonic who has commendable speed...I think the chance of her instincts being absolutely inferior to such people though is not that high
It actually is close if we take the multiplier from Black S to Platinum S literally. Their AP would both be in the multi Continental ranges with Tats having the massive advantage in range and versatility and Flash having the massive advantage in speed
The issue is, Tats can easily destroy Flash’s sword (which is less durable than his body), but Flash is so fast that Tats can never hit him, even with AOE based attacks since from his perspective Tats would be stopped in time
And as Hellfire and Gale implied, it’s possible to blitz psychics. So it’s whether you believe Flash’s speed and close enough AP can blitz and one shot before the barriers go up or get through Tats’ barriers since he can probably hit her shield thousands of times before her brain even processes he’s fighting her
Tatsumaki is still faster than buffed sonic. So the speed difference isn't as much as you think. Flashy flash cannot possibly destroy the barriers, so all tatsumaki needs to do is cover 100sq miles in a barrier and compress it, thus trapping and crushing flashy flash
FF has barely a speed advantage.
idk, don't think a single person ever said that flashy has a chance against Tatsumaki
There are a lot on Reddit I’m afraid
i mean ... if he were to ''sneak'' attack he'd 1 tap ... if she sees him tho it's gg
@@Depressed_until_dead he literally can't sneak attack her
@@Depressed_until_dead isn't her barrier automatic
@@Billy_Herrington1969give him the inverted spear of heaven
It’s a shame that most people dismiss opm in verse scaling due to its namesake, how op saitama is and the perception of it being only a gag manga despite the fact that it genuinely has so of the best and most consistent while simultaneously contested power scaling of any manga
just perfect
I know you only do opm videos but id love to see a Levi Ackerman vs the founding titan (with all titans ability)
that'd be a short video
is Bofoi vs Tatsumaki close?
Tatsumaki is flipping over an entire city while Flashy Flash is having a hard time pulling out his sword from the wall.
@@ahero3445That's good point actually, he got a weak sword. If it can't handle the stress of getting pulled out of the wall, then it won't be able to breakthrough Tatsumaki's barrier without breaking first.
Hi
what anime is 7:59 from ?
Kekkai Sensen
Quick correction: Platinum S didn't actually one shot Darkshine, but because it was his first time actually being hurt from a attack, he had a mental breakdown, though he could've still fought for a while (i might be wrong tho)
Finally someone wit common sense
Another thing
Tatsumaki > platinum s
Tatsumaki >monster garou form 1
Facts
true
I would argue she's also above Perfected Fist Garou/Garo.
(And Boros. All of his forms. But that's just me).
@@infernousgaming1393 she is lol
@@Baki.7411
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that!
I want you to make rover vs mihawk
Like my cmt if you agree with me
Post WC upgrades Flashy folds her.
Could you tell me about post WC upgrades and how he beats her?
FF is getting railed
Here is a VERY strange way for tats to kill flashy flash, basically. When she gets a hold of him, she, hm, How can I say this in a non sus way... Twist his thingy until it comes out, then fire at at max speed straight in his head, destroying his head
Tatsumaki gyatt oiled up strapped on a bed
Flashy Flash is not above Darkshine in durability. As I remember, Darkshine wasn't really hurt from Golden S attacks. He was more mentally scarred than anything.
He wouldn't be mentally scarred if he wasn't hurt.
Flashy Flash wins, if the fight starts in a surprise, he can simply kill Tatsumaki with his speed without her being able to react
but if he misses his first and surprise strike, he will have a hard time
First of all no she can easily react if flashy tries to sneak on her
Secondly " hard time"??? If it becomes a head on fight , tats one shots flashy flash lol
Bros stupid
@@babyblue1443 you are lying
She has a passive barrier, so he can't blitz her anyway.
@@farmerwithshotgun2728 Once he gets close it's over for him, she'll literally stop him in place a kill him in a number of ways.
Literally nothing he can do. In the webcomic Tatsumaki can still have her barriers on even when knocked unconscious, FF couldn't even sneak attack or blitz her.
Tatsumaki vs Hashirama?
Tatsumaki multi continental (lowballed)
Hasirama country level (highballed)
Hashirama win mid diff
@@Baki.7411hashirama being country isn't highballed tf
I agree he wld lose tho unless he lands a deity gate but I don't even think that's enough
Wait what this is a debate??
Tatsumaki's speed is pretty high because Psyhos actually speed blitz Flashy Flash.
When Psyhos flew past Flashy Flash and Saitama, Flashy Flash couldn't even recognize what flew by while Saitama actually saw that it was a woman who flew by.
So if Psyhos can speed blitz Flashy Flash, then Tatsumaki's speed is far greater.
Flashy Flash wasn't doing anything when Psyhos showed up. Flashy Flash was just riding on mine cart and talking to Saitama, he wouldn't be caught off guard doing that because he is in a monster association base, so he would keep his guard up.
So if Psyhos can speed blitz Flashy Flash then in her Psyrochi form, she can easily react Flashy Flash, Platinum S, and Awaken Monster Garou. This means it would be easy for Tatsumaki to keep up with Flashy Flash’s speed.
Plus, Genos was able to measure Awaken Monster Garou's power level, but Genos wasn't able to measure Psyrochi's power level saying it is unreadable or limitless. Meaning Psyrochi is far stronger than
Awaken Monster Garou and Flashy Flash.
Flashy never uses His 100% at all times.
Had he'd been using his full power he would've killed the Octopus and Hellfire and Gale from the get go.
Tatsumaki just doesn't have speed feats to put her in the level of Flashy Flash.
Flashy Flash performed even a better feat by seeing the 0 Punch of Saitama on Cosmic Garou. No other Hero could see that, other than maybe Genos (but he wasn't affected by the radiation, like Flashy Flash was).
@@mikeym.4724 except reaction speed is separate from movement speed.
In fact, Flashy Flash reaction speed would be higher than his movement speed just so he can fight in those light speed movements.
The fact that Flashy Flash couldn't even recognize what flew by, while Saitama actually saw it was a woman who flew by means Flashy Flash got speed blitz by Psykos.
Even if Psykos can speed blitz Flashy Flash by accident, Flashy Flash’s reaction speed wouldn’t be at 50% it would be much higher.
& if Psykos can speed blitz that, then Tatsumaki can easily speed blitz a full power Flashy Flash.
Plus, Flashy Flash wasn’t even at full power against Platinum S & Awaken Garou. Flashy Flash was heavily nerf before fighting Platinum S & Awaken Garou, because Flashy Flash was already losing so much of his confidence after meeting two god tier characters "Saitama & Blast" and losing his sword "Flashy Flash's main weapon".
Flashy Flash was nerfed so badly that Platinum S easily noticed that Flashy Flash was already weakened. And Flashy Flash was only getting worse fighting Platinum S & Awaken Garou.
So Psykos’s speed would be closer to a full power Flashy Flash than both Platinum S & Awaken Garou speed because those two were fighting a more heavily nerf Flashy Flash than the one Psykos speed blitz.
@@ethanaguilera7522
For starters Flashy Flash has proven he can react Faster than what he can move.
In His Battle with Garou and Platinum he was still reacting to them after he had realized they were Faster (at the start of chapter 156 he gets hit by Platinum and Garou goes for a kick that he evades and proceeds to say they were Faster than him).
Whatever explanation you wanna say nothing puts Tatsumaki at the speed of the constelation fight.
Even if you say that Tatsumaki Is relative to Sonic, in the never Chapters Flashy Is not even Going all out on Sonic and has proven he Is by far Faster (if you consider he looked quite shock on His Battle with Platinum and Garou, because they surpassed him or even in His Battle with Saitama).
Nothing suggest he Is impressed with Sonic.
If you wanna say Tatsumaki beat Saitama's speed because she lifted the car before Saitama did. I would say It holds no weight as Saitama wasn't even trying, Is like when Flashy Flash evaded the initial attempt of Saitama to try to grab him during their "match".
Is not like Psykos "speedblitzed" Flashy when he was using his full power.
Based off feats Flashy Is way Faster anyway.
@@mikeym.4724
Except I already explained that Psykos speed blitz Flashy Flash’s reaction speed.
& even if Flashy Flash was holding back when Psykos flew by, Flashy Flash would be at least above 50% and not lower because he is planning to fight something stronger than Gale Wind & Hellfire Flame.
So if Psykos speed blitz the reaction speed of a above 50% Flashy Flash, then that means Psykos would be as fast or faster than a 100% Flashy Flash.
Because Psykos to speed blitz a adove 50% Flashy’s reaction speed doesn’t mean Psykos’s movement speed is only a 60% Flashy’s reaction speed, speed blitzing someone is a big Feat in scaling.
Plus Psykos is more likely faster than Platinum S, because Flashy Flash was heavily nerfed before fighting Garou and Platinum S.
Since Flashy Flash was already losing so much of his confidence before fighting Garou because he met two god tired characters "Saitama and Blast" and Flashy Flash also lost his sword "Flashy Flash's main weapon".
And when Flashy Flash was fighting Awaken Garou & Platinum S, he only got worse. So Awaken Garou & Platinum S was fighting a more nerf Flashy Flash than the one Psykos speed blitz.
& If Psykos can nearly match the speed of a 100% Flashy Flash, then Tatsumaki is far far faster than a 100% Flashy Flash.
@@mikeym.4724
Also on @Yacine latest post, I explained my argument better there than I did here with you.
Sorry about that, but my argument is on there as well.
Ppl forget that tatsumaki literally has a better speed feat than flashy 😂
No, lifting a car before Saitama did (on a saitama not even trying aint a feat).
If we go by that Flashy was able to avade the initial move of Saitama in their "fight". Tatsumaki has never display speed like that of Flashy Flash (fighting 2 above dragons in fractions of a second all over Z city).
Even if you wanna say she scales to him in terms of speed for Sonic, Sonic aint as fast, as the new chapters prove.
I love Tatsumaki but people love riding on her psychic dildo.
The waifu wars must start.
i love flashy I think hes way stronger than Bang but Tatsumaki is a bad matchup for him he gets violated.
I’m surprised this is even a debate, I mean isn’t it clear tatsumaki could defeat any s class hero below her
Edit: I apologise for forgetting about King, it was foolish and disrespectful of me to forget him in such a way😔
King's stand would like to say what's up?
You’re literally forgetting about king smh
It's a debate because of speed
Quite obvious tbh
Flashy can kill her instantly although this is only really a fight if Tatsumaki can't get her barrier up.
@@CerealExperimentsMizukiher barrier is always on even when she sleeps
doesnt she have auto protect like gojo
She has just yacine try to give flashy a chance wich he never had
@@orochieditzzshe doesn't what proves she does?
@@onizukasensei5321
The webcomic, if I remember correctly, has statements of her keeping her barrier up even while asleep (or was it the manga that said that?), and the webcomic has a statement of her having a passive barrier.
The manga also has her keep up her barrier around all of Z-City while unconscious.
@@infernousgaming1393 can u pls give me the chapters for that
@@onizukasensei5321
Yeah, but it might take me a bit.
One of the ones I remember off the top of my head is the passive barrier statement in the webcomic, which happens during her fight with the Sperms/Spermatozoa.
She keeps her city-wide barrier going while unconscious in the manga during the Jet Psykos-Orochi fight.
I'll make sure to send them soon.
I pretty much agree, I'll give flashy a 10% win chance, it could only get higher if his forbidden move multiplies his AP somehow.
It does multiply it, he becomes a living sword
This is very one sided
Suggestion topic:
Monster cardre vs special grade curse
why u tryna speedblitz all of jjk bruh theres no need
the only Cursed Spirit who posses a threat to the monster association is Mahito, no one would be able to kill him since you need to attack the soul, something no one in One Punch Man has been able to do.
Mahito solos even in jjk verse if you can't hit the soul you can't damage him
@@RedLights9000-f3lbut he wouldn't be able to damage any of the monsters so it's at best a stalemate.
THEY WOULDNT BE ABLE TO SEE HIM AND HE DIRECTLY DAMAGES THE SOUL NO DURABILTY IS GONNA SAVE YOU@@CerealExperimentsMizuki
Tastumaki is ALWAYS surrounded by an impassable psichic barrier that works even when she is inconscious.
Tatsumaki is not bound to be faster than Flash. She has just to create an invisibile barrier around him large enough not to be detected. After she cages him, it's game over.
Infinity 🥶
@@noparuthirankate7895 What?
@@entity.xJujutsu Kaisen reference. Infinity is an OP ability from Gojo where no attacks could reach him almost as if there is a barrier
@@parkourandfreerunning4214 oh.
The attack is slowed down an infinity amount of times within a certain area around his body, like think an invisible barrier of his whole body only the attack approaches then slows down an infinity amount of times so it does not reach him@@entity.x
I feel if 1 character has to have a certain condition like the other having to be unfocused then it kinda means it losses but a 1v1 shud always be known by both parties
Love em both
flashy couldn't speed blitz her
Soo.. I did what you said and flashy kicked the subscribe button... Just destroyed my phone.
I didn't think this guy would be from Algeria
Boros vs sage centipede and evil ocean water and psycho orochi?
why amai mask vs metal bat isnt close
Also... This matchup is a classic Pokémon case of psychic type vs fighting types😂😂😂 (im soooo sorry for this comparison).
Can you do Tatsumaki vs Platinum Sperm, basically an upgraded version of Flashy Flash. Would be interested to see your take on that match up.
its kind of weird to point out that tatsumaki cant be faster than flashy flash because speed is his speciality but hes also somehow more durable than darkshine when durability is his speciality
Silly vid ngl
Flashy flash and metal bat solos mommy, wdym
You all forgot Tatsu can defeat all cadres at the same time. In the Webcomic Tatsu stopped Monster Garou from moving and stated if she was at full health she could have defeated him. Flash 1v1 him and losed horribly..
I don't think that's a good argument, she says that to everyone, including Saitama.
@@arnigeir1597 Yeah but Garou says "too bad you arent" and she may actually pull it off.
@@dragonpiece6721 that's just a taunt from Garou, as he likes to do with heroes, it's not a determinative of anything.
According to One, full power she could beat Golden S,
Garou beat him pre-awakening,
Flashy lost to Awakened Garou,
Garou said he would have been ugly if his past self fought Flashy.
Webcomic doesn't draw a clear winner.
@@arnigeir1597 Well she managed to stop him for awhile being injured so she can definitely keep up with Awakened. And WC Flashy is probably equal to Golden Sperm from his showings.
@@dragonpiece6721 What you just said doesnt make sense. How could flashy be equal to Golden S if he literally just clarified that Golden S lost to pre awakened garou, and Flashy overcame that only to lose to awakened garou??
Bro you gotta do half monster Garou vs Po from Kung fu Panda
That giant octopus that flashy flash cut up with little effect when the monster association first attacked, but Tatsumaki twisted it up in a couple seconds.
Yeah, that was probably the greatest 1 to 1 example of the difference between the two. With FF zipping around, Tatsumaki can just pretty much "I win" at any given moment.
Honestly, I'm confused about it. Like why couldn't he just slice through it? In the MA arc, he literally cut gigantic monsters
Dude i get that tatsumaki always win but flashy flash was one of the last to fall from the cosmic radiation, and platinum S is stronger than golden s wich killed in a second ugly fhurer (idk how to pronounce it) the same guy that knocked out tatsumaki, a weakened tatsumaki sure but flashy flash also didnt have his sword, just the fact that he could go toe a toe with 2 dragon level threads with no sword is a awesome feat
defence wise tatsumaki is the strognest, also she could literally fly into space and then twist flashy's neck out of his reach, its not fair.
What's the anime at 13:20? I saw that clip a while ago and I've been looking for it ever since.
I think it's Kekkai Sensen (Blood Blockade Battlefront), 10/10 anime IMO
Pls do Human garou vs toji
Is Platinum S the OPM version of DBZ Cell?
In ego yes
Tatsumaki were more impressed with the DC of PsOrochi blast than speed of attack. It cut part of the f ing planet. And tatsu’s defence could easily block that blast, so her defence at least planetary level, she can easily do barriers that can shrink and not give FF space. Actually, the only chance for FF is to kill her with max speed before she realise he wants to kill her. Other way, she negs in every way.
Cutting off a continent = Planet+??
So I guess a block of C-4 can blow up the Moon too. I bet every time I cut off a bit of the ground I'm actually Multi Continental.
Your logic is completely sound and understandable.
You should make a video about why Boros vs Psykorochi isn't close
Even though this isn't a close matchup l still want to see it
Well, I can see Psycho-Orochi obliterating Armored Boros at the very least, althrough she would be pretty much blitzed by his Released form, I can see her using x300 Gravity if that helps in anything
@@jx8903murata has done so well with his scaling and logic yet still thinks that 300x gravity is a lot??
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki "It is what it is", althrough I think x300 Gravity is pretty useful to inmovilize opponents or gravity crush
It's close tbh. Psykorochi is pretty much an upgrade from Orochi, he who can pull up large amount of magma from the Earth's core.
Yacine, tatsumaki vs platinum sperm. Power vs speed, who win? I need this video.
Without overrating sperm
Tatsumaki wins
My money is on Tatsumaki, I don't think Platinum S has the strength to break her shields
@@higorss platinum can't break his shields, but, tatsumaki tires to maintain them and prevent them from breaking. If she can't catch him sooner or later Tatsumaki will run out of energy to maintain her shields unless she can catch him but because of Platinum's speed it is difficult but not impossible. That's why I have doubts about this fight.
It's literally the same as this matchup bruh
Flashy flash win por sus estadisticas altas lo unico en que no le gana a tatsumaki es en destruccio
People overwank light speed in anime vs battles. They don't understand that in anime light speed is only marginally faster than the speed of sound, which is only marginally faster than a really fast person.
Tatsumaki easily keeps up with Sonic, who the latest chapters have shown to be slower, but comparable, to flashy flash.
I have the same chance at beating Tatsumaki that FF has, namely none.
Sound travel at roughly 343m/second while speed of light travel at 300.000.000m/second
That isn't marginally, its different whole level
@@wtfdude1830 Well mangaka rarely even understand this.
Sonic was never depicted to be as Fast as Flashy for that matter.
The newer Chapters portray Sonic as a weaker version of Flashy Flash. Flashy Is not going all out like he did with Garou and Platinum.
@@wtfdude1830 Good job confirming that you can't read.
@@mikeym.4724 Doesn't matter, point is that they're comparable enough that Sonic actually has stuff to do. The "he's not going all out" stuff is more baseless wanking. I am sure he's not giving his 100%, but that doesn't mean we should act like he's actually a thousand times as strong and we should just ignore this fight.
Freaking Metal Bat was fast enough to be relative to freaking Garou at some point. "NaAh, GaRoU WaS MucH FaSteR!". Yeah, like twice as fast, not the 10.000 times as fast that he should have been. Speeds mean absolutely NOTHING in manga.
Flash couldn't take down Sonic even after using his full power against him just last chapter. Tatsumaki literally flicked a finger at Sonic and he was done a few chapters ago. This is a no-brainer.
Is not like he was trying with Sonic. We've seen the full extend of his power on the Garou/Platinum fight, it isnt like Sonic is currently on Par with him.
@@A.D.G-jr4jobro he literally said "I never thought I'd have to use my ultimate technique against you" how is that "not even trying?" It's his ULTIMATE TECHNIQUE. And then Sonic emerged barely scratched and Flash said with disbelief "He defended against Flashy Kicks?!". I do concede that Sonic was presented as the weaker one after that point against the ninjas, but he is still clearly in Flash's ballpark, that feat is a clear confirmation of that. And, once again, Tatsumaki beat Sonic by flicking her finger, and while being fully occupied with Saitama. The difference is so obvious, this matchup is embarassing to even consider.
@@mitromney Only thing I agree with is that Sonic is relative to Flashy Flash to a great extent, but saying that Tatsumaki could deal with either Sonic or Flashy Flash with ease is just absurd, we haven't seen Tatsumaki really operate at lightspeed levels and has been seen having trouble with fast opponents, Sonic suddenly appearing out of no where and being dismissed quickly after was clearly supposed to be comedic, not to mention that Sonic had absolutely no trouble dodging his own shuriken that Tatsumaki threw back (Presumably at lightspeeds since Sonic threw him and since Sonic is relative to FF which is FTLS) just to immediately 'lose' because of dome dog's dookie shouldn't be taken seriously.
Mostly since it was purely comical and the fact that Tastumaki had nothing to do with the dog's dookie making Sonic slip.
Great Content As Usual Yacine, but I Still Don't Believe That FF is More Durable Than Darkshine, Cuz One Garou Absolutely Bullied Darkshine, Two, He Got Absolutely Scared By Golden S Before Golden S Punched Him.
Spiral Garou (a far weaker version than even the sleeping Monster Form)
Was already bypassing the durability of Darkshine by making internal damage.
Flashy Scales way above Spiral Garou.
Golden Sperm was far stronger and More powerful than Darkshine (even compared to the Monsters he fought).
Golden low diffed Vomitted Fuhrer Ugly, while Darkshine was evenly matched with Vomitted Fuhrer Ugly (Vomitted Fuhrer Ugly clashed a double super alloy bazooka with Darkshine).
Platinum is far More powerful than Golden Sperm. Platinum was confident on killing King, while Golden was afraid. Even Atomic Samurai states Platinum had a More powerful aura.
Flashy Flash was able to shake Platinum with His barehands with the Flash Fist (It didn't make almost any damage, but still).
Flashy Flash performed better against stronger versions of the Monsters Garou fought.
Flashy would even destroy Darkshine without a sword.
Now you could say Darkshine has a More durable skin as he Is able to withstand Sharp objects, while Flashy Flash was cut a little with steel wires. This Is True but the moment something can bypass the skin of Darkshine it's over for him.
Flashy Flash Is able to endure a lot More blunt brute force, this why he Is More durable.
Also Flashy Flash in the manga Is way More powerful and stronger than what he was on the webcomic.
On top of being Faster for His contelation fight, Flashy Is lot More durable.
In the webcomic Flashy Flash was instantly Taken down the moment Garou hit him with a kick.
In the manga he was able to endure a lot of hits on screen from Platinum and he was able to Tank an early version of the God Calamity Slayer fist of Garou in Chapter 155.
So yeah Flashy Flash was buffed in the manga and Darkshine wasn't.
Spiral garou was matching darkshines blows and cld make him cough up blood
Flashy can take harder blunt force attacks but darkshines durability is better in the sense he can take piercing damage too and he's more sturdy
Flashy was tanking blows from monster garou who's far stronger than spiral garou and even one of his special dragon slayer combination attacks
THen ofc from platinum sperm who called flashy the pinnacle of what superhumans can do in physical stats
Plus ofc he's stronger than golden sperm who even against a confident darkshine shld be at least a bit stronger
@@mikeym.4724I'd consider Darkshine to be more of a buffet than Flashy Flash but everyone is into different things.
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki
I meant to say buffed* lmao
The spell checker screwed me with that one.
you didnt mention that tatsumaki was able to outspeed saitama very briefly when we caught the car that was about to be hit by debris of course its just one feat but i think flash isnt so fast that he can just blitz her i dont think its possible i think she can keep up even if he is faster in movement
Yeah but Orochi > psycho orochi
No
When Orochi himself says that Psykos-Orochi is stronger (and, if I remember correctly, that was even before God buffed them), this is incorrect.
Gojo vs Yami