I don't get the Dwarf hate tbh. It's a bit of a meme at this stage. Playing against them is easy, you can just run around them. Playing with Dwarfs is a challenge and really teaches you how to position.
A bit late but i dont like playing against them cause i am a stunty coach (goblins and snotlings) but honestly if i played orcs i wouldnt mind it, i depends what team you are playing
My preference is for both blitzers, both slayers, and just one runner and the rest longbeards, and then to pick up another runner as 12th man to run on defensive drives as a safety to cover the sides. But I don't think that leaves enough to pick up the third reroll at team creation anymore though.
Alas, Farblast is gone (for now)! Dwarves have access to these though: Rumbelow Sheepskin Morg 'n' Thorg Mighty Zug Karla Von Kill Helmut Wulf Grombrindal, the White Dwarf Grim Ironjaw Griff Oberwald Grak & Crumbleberry But I can’t see anyone there worth sacrificing a solid build for though! Not in league anyway 🤔
I think that could totally work if you do a Grindy play style. Or if you get 'on the ball' in a tournament list But I'd rather go one slayer to lower risk
Hey Joda Jedi! If you needed more than 6 then yeah I'm afraid you'd need another box! 💔 OR - buy the Old world Alliance team (you get 3 more Blockers in there), and you can cross the streams!
I thought I heard something about dwarves getting an ability that negates the Guard skill if you place them next to an opponent or is that some kind of new star player?
Hey Ray; that’s an Agility skill called “Defensive” - and it nullifies the Guard skill on all opposing players in the players Tackle Zone in *their* turn! Soo it’s average I think!
I still want to try a Bismark list... 10 Blockers (700K) 1 Blitzer (80K) 1 Deathroller (170K) 1 Reroll (50K) Still leaves you 11 players when the Deathroller gets Sent Off, and while they're *only* linemen, they're the best linemen in the game, with your one, and only, starting reroll being used as a once-per-half Sure Hands for the Blitzer's 3+ to pick up the ball. If it ain't him picking it up, that reroll doesn't get used. Meanwhile, you spend one entire half DwarfCaged in slow motion while the Bismark flattens people, cackling madly as they crumple under it. And when it eventually skills up? Piledriver...
Break tackle got nerfed with loner worsen to 5+ and they *increased* Deathroller price?? The player is literally a meme now. You can't even break tackle into cages. Dirty player +2 is just having a 170k piece sent off.
As much as I love Dwarves, all about that Nordic/Tolkien lore. That said next season I am thinking of taking their evil cousins of the Chaos Dwarfs, could you possibly do a 1000TV starting roster please Ben?
Just had chance to see this and my absolute nemesis to face, especially if nuffle well and truly favours them in every aspect...I play a league where there’s a really salty player that likes his dwarfs and is a nightmare to face against with them, loves his fouls too! Changed his entire life now he’s switched to a Nurgle team!
I really feel that GW could have done something with the Blockers/Longbeards and made them Brawlers. Could have made them more interesting to play with and against. As it stands it's just Generic 1000k
Yeah, we all got very exciting when we saw the Blocker on the OWA list! However - it’s probably useful to keep Dwarves the same... can balance the meta a bit!
@@chibizion I don't mind the mass tackle tbh. It's the mass top tier skill Block that lets AV10+ Thick Skull stay on the pitch. Having Brawler instead of Block would have made Dwarfs are much more entertaining foe to play against. Claw+MB was nerfed Piling On got nerfed Wizards got nerfed Passing became much more predictable (just 1 elf able to reliably pass) What will the Dwarf counter be at low TV? Once upon a time that was Necro probably.,
@@MangoFandangoBB Necro is more a high TV team from the looks of it. I dislike mass tackle mainly because I play stunty and they don't need Dwarves hard countering them, they already have a large stack of disadvantages.
@@chibizion Yeah Dwarfs are a hard counter to stunty, which is why Brawler in lieu of Block would have increased turnover from 1/36 skulls to 1/9 or whatever the new Maths is in calculating the Both Down Brawler RR. Also with Brawler: Both Down could lead to more gaps for stunties since the Longbeard would get up and only move 1 square if not an AV break. Sure it's still a turnover, but it's better than having a MV4 piece reposition to mark another stunty player with ease.
The Deathroller build is horrible. There's no way I'd every start a league with that build. I've never been a fan of the Deathroller period, but when I do buy one it's usually after I've got 13-14 players at the earliest.
I love dorfs! Anyone who says they're boring has probably had someone squashed by the deathroller 1 slayer build is the way to go. 1 runner build is an option early on too, blitzers can carry don't forget
I don't get the Dwarf hate tbh. It's a bit of a meme at this stage.
Playing against them is easy, you can just run around them.
Playing with Dwarfs is a challenge and really teaches you how to position.
A bit late but i dont like playing against them cause i am a stunty coach (goblins and snotlings) but honestly if i played orcs i wouldnt mind it, i depends what team you are playing
Just came in to check if Dwarf Starting Rosters still cost you friends.
Friends come and go, stay true to your Oath & honour. Dwarf stubbornness, dwarf heart ❤️
Looking forward to a potential vid on the OWA team. Will hopefully be playing in a table top tournament in March and I'm considering using them!
My preference is for both blitzers, both slayers, and just one runner and the rest longbeards, and then to pick up another runner as 12th man to run on defensive drives as a safety to cover the sides. But I don't think that leaves enough to pick up the third reroll at team creation anymore though.
It’s such a tricky build! And with loner - you either use less, or more Rerolls depending on your style 😅
Wise move, flimsy runner, AV 8 and no Block. Good plan 👍
I always start with a Deathroller.
It's fun. And with 2+ Dirty Player? That's juicy on a player that will get sent off anyway. FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL!
It isn't 2+ Dirty player unfortunately, it's +2 big difference. :(
No mention of a dwarf star player build, is there any point with dwarves?? And whats the point of barrick farblast anyway? Punting?
Alas, Farblast is gone (for now)! Dwarves have access to these though:
Rumbelow Sheepskin
Morg 'n' Thorg
Mighty Zug
Karla Von Kill
Helmut Wulf
Grombrindal, the White Dwarf
Grim Ironjaw
Griff Oberwald
Grak & Crumbleberry
But I can’t see anyone there worth sacrificing a solid build for though! Not in league anyway 🤔
@@BoneheadPodcast Dwarves could do with a Bomber star player theres no point in taking any of them lot with the TV bloat it'll cause.
What about a solo Runner roster?
I think that could totally work if you do a Grindy play style.
Or if you get 'on the ball' in a tournament list
But I'd rather go one slayer to lower risk
Solo Slayer build for me and Deathroller if I ever get enough inducements lol
I'd still be tempted by a Wizard at that point haha! Or Skrull!
@@BoneheadPodcast Dwarfs don't trust magic, gotta keep it real...we do like chainsaws though! 😜
It’s not magic... it’s a cannon ball 😉 💣
@@BoneheadPodcast wizards with cannon balls pfft! Any news if Boomer will be retired in BB2020?
@@BoneheadPodcast Dwarfs don't trust magic, you should know that! lol. Trust in the runes
Can you do Chaos Renegades Next! Thanks love your stuff!
Thanks Nik! Renegades are only a few days away 😁👍
Death roller is my favorite model in the game. I like 1 death roller 1 runner 10 blockers and 1 RR build to start with
If I want to play more than the 6 blockers in the starter set do I have to buy the set twice or is there any smaller set?
Hey Joda Jedi! If you needed more than 6 then yeah I'm afraid you'd need another box! 💔
OR - buy the Old world Alliance team (you get 3 more Blockers in there), and you can cross the streams!
Thank you
I thought I heard something about dwarves getting an ability that negates the Guard skill if you place them next to an opponent or is that some kind of new star player?
Hey Ray; that’s an Agility skill called “Defensive” - and it nullifies the Guard skill on all opposing players in the players Tackle Zone in *their* turn!
Soo it’s average I think!
I still want to try a Bismark list...
10 Blockers (700K)
1 Blitzer (80K)
1 Deathroller (170K)
1 Reroll (50K)
Still leaves you 11 players when the Deathroller gets Sent Off, and while they're *only* linemen, they're the best linemen in the game, with your one, and only, starting reroll being used as a once-per-half Sure Hands for the Blitzer's 3+ to pick up the ball. If it ain't him picking it up, that reroll doesn't get used.
Meanwhile, you spend one entire half DwarfCaged in slow motion while the Bismark flattens people, cackling madly as they crumple under it.
And when it eventually skills up? Piledriver...
I use 1 Slayer, 1 Runner, 2 Blitzers, 7 Blockers and 3 rerolls when I start a dwarf team and it works pretty well
10 Blockers, 1 Runner, 3 re-rolls. Super low TV for so much pain.
So remind me, Slayers can pick up/catch the ball but they can't pass. If so I'm still quite happy...for a dwarf!!!
Haha yep - no passing, but they're still 4+ to pick up!
Break tackle got nerfed with loner worsen to 5+ and they *increased* Deathroller price??
The player is literally a meme now. You can't even break tackle into cages. Dirty player +2 is just having a 170k piece sent off.
Yes! It's probably the stupidest change in BB2020! This could've been the chance to make it at least a consideration!
As much as I love Dwarves, all about that Nordic/Tolkien lore. That said next season I am thinking of taking their evil cousins of the Chaos Dwarfs, could you possibly do a 1000TV starting roster please Ben?
Hey Dam, we still don't have the rosters for the Forgotten Teams for BB2020 yet! But a soon as we do - you'll get them ASAP!
Chaos filth pfft!
I would say necromantic but I want highlight reels not speculation rosters.
Just had chance to see this and my absolute nemesis to face, especially if nuffle well and truly favours them in every aspect...I play a league where there’s a really salty player that likes his dwarfs and is a nightmare to face against with them, loves his fouls too! Changed his entire life now he’s switched to a Nurgle team!
I think I like 9 Blockers, 2 Runners, 4 rerolls
Damn expensive at the start of a league but because no team comes with as many skills as you , once you get rolling they are ridiculous
It would be much cooler when you show the new team rosters first
I really feel that GW could have done something with the Blockers/Longbeards and made them Brawlers. Could have made them more interesting to play with and against.
As it stands it's just Generic 1000k
Yeah, we all got very exciting when we saw the Blocker on the OWA list! However - it’s probably useful to keep Dwarves the same... can balance the meta a bit!
Honestly I would have liked to see the Linemen change. Block/Tackle is too accessible and unfun to play against.
@@chibizion I don't mind the mass tackle tbh. It's the mass top tier skill Block that lets AV10+ Thick Skull stay on the pitch.
Having Brawler instead of Block would have made Dwarfs are much more entertaining foe to play against.
Claw+MB was nerfed
Piling On got nerfed
Wizards got nerfed
Passing became much more predictable (just 1 elf able to reliably pass)
What will the Dwarf counter be at low TV? Once upon a time that was Necro probably.,
@@MangoFandangoBB Necro is more a high TV team from the looks of it.
I dislike mass tackle mainly because I play stunty and they don't need Dwarves hard countering them, they already have a large stack of disadvantages.
@@chibizion Yeah Dwarfs are a hard counter to stunty, which is why Brawler in lieu of Block would have increased turnover from 1/36 skulls to 1/9 or whatever the new Maths is in calculating the Both Down Brawler RR.
Also with Brawler: Both Down could lead to more gaps for stunties since the Longbeard would get up and only move 1 square if not an AV break. Sure it's still a turnover, but it's better than having a MV4 piece reposition to mark another stunty player with ease.
The Deathroller build is horrible. There's no way I'd every start a league with that build. I've never been a fan of the Deathroller period, but when I do buy one it's usually after I've got 13-14 players at the earliest.
David... It really is a terrible list! But we had to include it for completion's sake, and I bet you someone takes it haha!
The deathroller is basically the "I don't really care if I win, I just want to watch the world burn" player...
I love dorfs! Anyone who says they're boring has probably had someone squashed by the deathroller
1 slayer build is the way to go.
1 runner build is an option early on too, blitzers can carry don't forget