Superman does have limits early on, but his limits were self imposed. When he finally truly accepted his heritage, which took a long time, he became a god basically.
It really doesn’t matter. Goku doesn’t have any feats that say he can match Clark. Even if you want to call him a “god” it doesn’t matter, because even the “gods” of Dragon Ball like Zeno can’t match Superman.
Tex The Slayer I would have been fine if it were another version, because there are forms of Superman who would wipe the floor with Goku, but that outfit is New 52. That Superman isn't that powerful.
To be honest... the VASTLY understated how powerful superman is, he has punched through universes , realities, flown beyond the source wall , moved realities. he is basically god in a meat shell .
100% agree. I think goku has a better chance vs justice league cartoon superman. But comic feats for sups is just too much for the db universe. Silver age and pre crisis were broken.
Droopy Aura New 52 Superman has limits to his power. For instance, his solar flare is good for one shot, If he misses, Superman loses all his powers and becomes human. Goku dodges and could KO Superman.
So Batman beats Superman, who is said to have no limits? The ending was bullshit, but I knew Superman would win. Plus, they lied on Goku's part saying he was the savior of the Universe. That was a fanmade voice over.
Goku Fans:That was a pretty solid battle I like Goku but i agree with the outcome Goku Fanboys:That was a crappy battle.Goku should have one B.S DBZtards: WTH goku could like 1 shot superman superman cant even do anything goku is lik way more pwerful
superman one million have thousands of times the powers of superman, is an over-buffed version of superman, and tons of people who can beat superman for sure (like Galactus, the celestials, rune king thor or phoenix,) would be wrecked in a single punch of superman one million, i think you are not fully aware of how stupid are your "examples" (except the obvious ones like TOAA or living tribunal) www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/superman-prime-one-millions-power-levels-747026/
When they say that superman has no limits they mean that his power doesn't have a specific level and that he is always getting stonger and he is always finding new feets such as the solar flare
+Abdul ahmed Actually it was determined through him being able to do things like, lift a book of infinite pages, which means it is infinitely heavy. And yet he lifted it, meaning his power is equal to or greater than infinite. Or that he flew 25 light-years in 10 minutes.
Greatpaladin N7 If superman can get beat by doomsday and batman(a human) I'm pretty sure a character like Goku would have superman down on the ground. (Just my opinion dude)
Goku: A man with one specific story. Superman: A man with God knows how many different adaptations of his story. I'm going with one story on this. Goku wins. He also wins for the single fact that he has limits and can be beaten. Relatable. Supes has no limits, which is just stupid and boring.
Smasho8000 I'm waiting for this kind of answer for a long time. Superman has been written by a LOT of writers, has many versions and has been running in publication since its debut. Toriyama ends DBZ at Buu Saga or if you want to go by the series itself, it ends at GT, after that there aren't any official continuation of it. There's hasn't been any progress for Goku since then until the recent BoG movie, compared to Superman. If wanna have a fair fight, we go with the year, Goku's stats VS Superman's stats during the year where DBZ or DBGT ends.
zwann_mustapah You're a little misinformed here. The official continuation of Goku is still going, with Dragon Ball Super, while GT was a non-canon spin off.
am I...the only one who still thinks goku can win? I mean, elder kai said beerus could easily destroy the entire unvierse if he wanted to and we know goku is 70% as strong as beerusso...yea. plus goku punched through king kai's planet which was calculated to be denser than a white dwarf star. Punching through it would require an energy equal to 1 million supernovas. Goku has that in just a punch. Superman barely survived a blast of puny 50 supernovas. And goku has instant transmission which has no speed, it's just instant. Supes cant beat that. And again, beerus scales 14 billion light years in 26 minutes. at 70% of that, it means goku should be able to cover a little less than 10 billion light years in 26 minutes. Supes in his greatest feat could only travel 150 light years in that timespan... I honestly dont see how superman can win. He had major feats but they forgot to mention that the most OP superman spent 15000 years inside the sun to get that strong. He cant get to that level over a battle, not to mention his solar powers would severely deplete while fighting on that level and goku could just beat him in endurance. I want superman to win, I tried, I looked into it but I see at least 8 possibilities how goku can win and a 1 very very faint possibility superman could (if goku fights him after he spent 15000 in the sun, which is highly unlikely to happen, but even then it would be a very equal fight that could go either way). Superman has a limit to his power, he has limitless POTENTIAL. If the muscles in the human body could make all its muscles lift upwards, the human body has the potential to lift nearly 2 tons....you dont see me bench-pressing cars, do you? Supes has limitless potential but the height of his strength still heavily depends on sunlight. he has limited reserves. that's why he loses from time to time
blazejecar Well, I see where you're coming from, but your misconceived. It is never stated he could obliterate a universe in one shot, they said that about Kid Buu, yet he was only shown being able to systematically destroy the universe over time going planet to planet. King Kai's planet is also magically enhanced, so use of physics is moot. Instant Transmission being instant isn't that big of a deal. He has to focus on a certain area to perform it and lacks fighting capabilities while in instant transmission. Also you contradicted yourself by saying "It is instant" then saying being able to traverse 10 billion light years in 26 minutes. Instant.... is instant.
blazejecar Superman's endurance is crazy above Goku's, and so is strength and travel speed. Goku's energy projection is simply not the equivalence of multiple supernovae (read above statement). Superman Prime One million should not be used because he can basically erase Goku from his universe.... so don't even bring that in, it's a completely different form. Superman's supply of sun radiation has never shown to run out over time. He can fight for hours in the vacuum of space. Such as him taking on Sodam Yat (Ion).
Greer Jones dragonball super, episode 3. Elder kai specifically states beerus can destroy the universe...as for the planet thing, freeza with 3/4 of his body missing and power completely down survived namek exploding. infant broly survived planet vegeta blowing up...and other occasions show that this king kai planet thing is not too farfetched. as for speed, one is instant transmission which has been used in fighting before. if we stay at beerus, he even uses it against him at a part of the fight. The example with the universe travel is an example of speed WITHOUT instant transmission, not with it. Beerus and whis travel from their world to king kai's planet as fast as they can. By toriyama's sketches of the universes, there's around 1 universe worth of distance, so around 14 billion light years. if you want another example, in the daizhenshuu they calculated his speed from namek. There he scales half the planet in a tiny fraction of a second to fight frieza. It was calculated his speed was around 2 million miles/second! Given power growth from then to FnF, + ssj multipliers and you get at least a few hundred quadrillion miles per hour, which is a few thousand times faster than the fastest superman. And you can find this all on the daizenshuu, the official dragonball source
I have to say my favorite thing in this whole 'debate' is when DBZ fans try to low-ball Superman...even thought that's NOT what Goku would want in a fight. A guy that has let planet-destroyers fully power up for a good fight, and destroyed a piece of Kryptonite in the first fight as well as offer Clark a Senzù Bean afterwards, and his fans want to WEAKEN his opponent in order to claim a victory...
just think of goku losing this way I don't think goku would want to fight super man any ways they both are the protectors of earth and both can do a lot of the same things
Goes to show you how a lot of fans of a particular character don't ever truly understand the mindset of their favorite character, though I partly blame this on Funimation and Ocean's early runs
+kaihedgie Superman is strong, of course Goku wants to fight him. They both probably wouldn't fight to the death though. Like seriously they wouldn't unless they killed like each other's wives or something.
+immanuel rendon Even if they are fighting fairly for YEARS NONSTOP. Goku would eventually tire out While Superman will not. Superman has fought an army of planet destroying demons for thousands of years while bereft of Sunlight. So no Superman doesn't tire out.
+immanuel rendon You're right, it wouldn't be to the death. But, the thing is, that channel is called Death Battle, wich means the characters fight with everything they got.
@@angelfall4164 it was in a tweet from their official Twitter account, they said they all prefer Goku and wanted to make him win, but they had to base the fight on the stats and facts to try to be unbiased.
I'm a Goku fan, and I knew this was going to happen. It had that written all over it. My problem is, he just strolled through the Kamehameha like he was walking through the park. That Kamehameha would have easily been able to destroy this planet, at least make his clothes become ripped. I mean he was fine, it looked like he was walking into on of those big fans that blow so hard that everything goes back. I guess I would be classified as having insanity, as I want this to keep happening, but with a different result
Ikr it's so stupid so I can punch him and do damage but if I use my KAMEHAMEHA it doesn't even leave any pain or scratch they definitely made this look as though I'm weak i could've easily insta transmission every punch and kick or punch him in the back but no they made me look like I wanted to be beat up this fights not OVER!!! 😾
mafiajoe619 it's that right there holding back that honestly makes him sound like a dickweed the reason I hate Superman is because someone to do something to him that doesn't really affect him and he has this face of like. really why are you trying and that's why I don't like him it makes him seem like a cocky douche
JoeytheJoeyX3 Look, it comes down to pure power, which Superman has in spades. The reason I don't enjoy Superman is because he's so OP. It's kind of boring watching something try and go up against him just because I know he's so massively powerful. I know the outcome. Superman wins. It's just what he does.
Emiliano Martin Dominguez Frese To be fair, I'm actually a huge DBZ fan myself, I just also know how ridiculously overpowered DC has made Superman over the years. Honestly, I dislike Superman because he's so overpowered. It kind of makes it boring; there's almost nothing he can't do. I think a cooler fight would be Goku AND Vegeta fighting Superman as a team. They'd have a pretty decent chance then =) .
Fairy Tail Podcast superman didn't kill goku he use is heat vision to fuck up his brain so he couldn't fight anymore because goku said he would never stop that why he didn't let him fall at the end
Fairy Tail Podcast its also not in Goku's character to just accept Superman being invincible. Has goku ever really given up? there was that ONE time with Beerus where he admited, but even after he still trained. Just like he trained iwth Whiz
DBZ fans are so quick to say ScrewAttack made Superman win. He was going to win regardless. And to make matters worst DBZ fans asked for this rematch and they even proved again why he lost a second time. Even if they did a third rematch and I'm sure they will the outcome will never change.
sublimek No, we won't ask Screwattack for a rematch, cause they are obviously biased, heck they didn't even bother to hide it in this video. They should just keep their grubby little fingers away from anime and be done with it.
sublimek They clearly showed Superman having *INFINITE POWER*. Do you know what that means? Goku could train non-stop for a billion years and he would still be shit-stomped. And they praised Goku as a character while they criticized Superman for being overpowered as hell and how he breaks reality. They were only biased in your head. And before you say anything, I was rooting for Goku. Sure, the "walking through the Kamehameha" was maybe a bit too much, but if Superman does have *INFINITE POWER*, then that is a reasonable outcome. And where did that idea of Screwattack being biased against anime come from? Vegeta won against Shadow, when the power of Super Saiyans and the Chaos Emeralds are difficult to compare, where was the bias against anime? Guts won against Nightmare and he was the freaking underdog, where was the bias against anime? Goku lost, get over it. I'm sad too, but not gonna let this rule my life. If you can't handle having the people you root for losing, why do you bother watching a show where there is a good possibility that person dies?
Emmanuel Gonzalez No Goku could already take on Superman. Goku fought a Universe Buster, and the creators say Goku (when he first fought him) was at 70% of his power. Superman < Universe Buster so Superman < Goku.
Superman was able to walk through Goku's Kamehameha because he could have been vibrating his molecules, like the Flash does. This allows him to phase through attacks and solid objects, many people forget about this ability for some reason. Look up "Molecular Oscillation" for more information on this ability. Also, people are misunderstanding what ScrewAttack was, saying, when they said: "limitless potential", I think that they were referring to the fact that Superman can just keep absorbing yellow solar radiation thus, unlimited in the sense of increasing his power.
Screw Attack wasn't going for Superman beats goku. THEY WENT AND DISRESPECT A BIG PART OF SOMEONE"S CHILDHOOD But its okay when Batman Beats Superman cause that make sense a normal human can fight superman. with that logic Mr. Satan > Superman
***** then how about this since superman new 52 is not superman prime 1 million he not gathered godly power from the source so shouldnt gokus godki kamehameha hurt him he doesnt even have resistance to godly powers at this point but screw attack never did any research to types of abilities also why do they fight where superman can get unlimited amount of energy. FOS. but Goku can never fight like in King Kai's planet or elder kai's planet. or at least use sensu beans he was never allowed to regain energy in any fights but supes have unlimited amount since the sun is always available how is that a fair straight fight?
***** Apprently because they use that excuse, they makes them DBZ fanboys right? Sure... Superman wasn't even at fullpower. Batman had help from Robin and Green Arrow in addition to use Kryptonite. I like Batman and Goku more than Superman, but he would beat them both in a straight up fight.
Hopefully we as DBZ fans and ScrewAttack can move on from this. There are so many other characters worthy of a death battle where it's an actual debate.
Zero Regen I was at the Live showing of this fight, and the DBZ fans too the loss quite well. We knew there a strong possibility that Goku would lose again, but we had hope. However when Superman won, the DC fans just had to rub our noses in the loss.
+Jesus of Earth so I'm stupid for having an opinion? if so than that would make you equally as stupid, would it not? I only restated facts you would know a quote if you weren't a mouth breathing beard neck with a conceptual idea of cross religionary concepts I mean come on can't you decide whether Jesus does exist and is in heaven or , wait, are you calling yourself a Messiah
Marteen Villamor Right he never died neither was his body ever physically destroyed cannon wise. He was just in a healing coma and most likely didnt know how to remove his mental blocks to his true power.
You can't deny though, Goku's death in this was kinda sad. Superman gave him a quick, painless death and obviously respected him, but had to stop him to avoid damage. In an official crossover, you know for a damn fact that the Z fighters would be accepted into the Justice League and Goku and Superman would be VERY close allies. Though I think Goku would get along better with Shazam cause they both have child-like mentalities.
Indy The Great I agree, Superman basically taught Goku a lesson on how trivial fighting can be when you think about things that are better suited to do with your time, and sometimes it's not all about proving your the best fighter in the world/universe. Even though he sounded kind of arrogant because of how they wrote the script.
Tyrone Magnus I'm here to clear up your confusion, The Hulk Does Have unlimited Strength but his strength only increases do to the amount of rage he has at that time. But Superman is constantly gaining strength no matter what because as you know he is constantly gaining power from the suns heat rays. In conclusion superman constantly has that strength where the hulk only has it for momentary time frames.
The way Supermans powers work literally keep his power from being unlimited , the level of his power depends on how much solar energy he has stored in his body .
Kiran Balraj Screwattack pretty much said there won't be a another rematch. That was the whole deal with King Kai's speech to Goku: since Superman has no limits, Goku cannot overcome them. However, I would certainly like to see a more balanced fight, like Goku Vs. The Hulk (or an out-of-this-world fight, like Unicron Vs. Galactus).
Show some god damn respect. It was never about who is the strongest. But rather what the stood for. Goku is a dreamer. A man always pushing himself to new heights. Superman is the all powerful. He is the man with all the power who is always worrying about using his powers to do the right thing. I really don't like the fact that people would insult either of them. Stop the bullshit.
They said that they're both at their maximum potential, and at his max Supes is known as Superman Prime 1,000,000 an omniscient being who has the power to be everywhere at once and open dimensional rifts with his mind, as well as will things in and out of existence. That's why he has no limits at max potential.
Boze Phanlo What a load of crap.Those writers are idiots. You can't just take a thing from the universe and then add all kinds of divine attributes to it. It doesn't work like that. Superman is such an impossible character.
Charles Jiles You seem not to understand my point. I didn't mention Goku because he's not as bad as Superman is, but Goku too has some really illogical aspects to his character. Yes, I like Goku more than I do Superman, but I'm not commenting here on who I think would win a fight (I think Superman would probably win to be honest). My comment was about Superman being an absurd, impossible character. What he is and what is attributed to him in terms of powers and skills is contradictory; more so than any other fictional character I know of.
Charles Jiles Well, ok, people know it's absurd and all, but I don't think most people really understand why though. You said Superman is omnipotent, omnipresent, I see omniscient being mentioned, and these words have meaning that can not be applied to a character like Superman. They just take divine attributes and throw them on a character that can never have those attributes. But the same can be said about Goku when calling him a "god". It somehow annoys me. Words have meanings, and the meanings of those words get thrown out the window when applied to any other than (here it comes) God. Anthropomorphism is rejected by sound reasoning, as this is exactly what Superman (and Goku to a lesser degree) represent: he's an impossible (an incorrect) concept of God basically. That's what it comes down to.
My problem here is that Flying a million times the speed of light and fighting at the speed of light are different. Goku has been fighting at speeds higher than Mach 1 speeds since Dragon Ball when he was just a boy and going by estimates can fight at thousands of times the speed of light. Now Superman may be able to fly faster but there can be no question that Goku can fight faster. And I am not just pulling this out of nowhere, I do remember reading somewhere that even Wonder Woman fought Superman he asked how she done something so quickly in a fight.
Ah I found it. Wonder Woman and Superman were sparring. Wonder Woman said I am faster than you. Superman said No you're not cant you see how fast I can fly. Superman then went to Batman about it and Batman said this. "Is Usain Bolt faster than Bruce Lee because he can run faster in a straight line"
And Superman fans still just cant get IT right. If Goku is travelling to another dimension or across the entire Universe (Fukkatsu no F) then yes he has to concentrate. That is the sample they used in the original DBZ when he was travelling to Supreme Kai's planet. That is not only in another dimension but also on the far side of that dimension. He has no issue using it in a fight.... such as the one with Beerus. He also has a Ki shield that would stop him, well you know GETTING LOBOTOMISED. And I believe they used 2 different Superman's here. I think they were both New 52 and pre New 52 or something like that. But they were 2 completely different Superman characters but they rolled them into one just to try and show how OP he was.
***** The issue is that with as fast as he flies he has to be able to physical move his body as quick. If not he'd just hit everything in his path but he never does. So in order to fly that fast he must be able to react and dodge just as fast. Speed isn't the issue here though its endurance, Superman, in New 52, was bench pressing the earth 5 days straight and wasn't even tired. This means out of the sun Supes lasted five days with a planet on his back, nothing Goku has done matches this in fact he wears himself out many times
Jon Porter That isnt necessarily true. The same could be said of being able to run as fast as a Bugatti Veyron, just being able to run at those speeds doesn't mean all of your other techniques would be able to be used at that same speed. Batman himself said this quote "Is Usain Bolt faster than Bruce Lee because he can run faster in a straight line" And being able to Bench Press earth, fine ok. But I will keep using Bruce Lee here, do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger would be able to beat Bruce Lee just because he can bench press more than him. Again no. Having the strength is great but as shown with ASSJ that strength is useless if you can't even land a punch. The point is Goku has been training for fighting his entire life and has been training his reactions etc. Superman as far as I know has never trained in such a way.
exactly so fighting in the sky would only give goku a disadvantage really doesn't make a difference whether they fight on the ground or air as long as that Sun is around.
I posted this the moment screwattack showed a preview to the fight: "There is no way they will ever let Goku win this battle. In the preview, it shows Ben standing there with this super annoyed look on his face and he says 'it'll finally be over for good after this one'. Chad says something like 'will it, though?' and Ben (annoyed) says 'YES.' and walks away like he's too good for this shit." In Ben's mind, because of what research he's done, there is no other POSSIBLE outcome to this fight. He believes Superman has absolutely no limit (when he very clearly does, and even in the New 52 comics he has shown his very clear limitations when fighting) and can never lose. Superman has simply been around for too long. In his 50+ years of comics, we have been shown very specific feats of power from him. He held up the Earth for three days straight with no access to sunlight, he took a blast that was X amount of supernovas in force, etc. Goku does not have these same specific feats. We have to figure out his power through power scaling, by comparing Goku to the people we know he's stronger than or equal to. Example: how long it took Superman to destroy an Earth-sized planet, compared to how fast we've seen Golden Frieza do it, or Beerus do it. Beerus simply tapped his fingernail against a table and destroyed a planet. He was also so fast, he outran the explosion and subsequent destruction of the planet, appearing far away in the solar system almost instantly. Until Akira Toriyama starts giving us exact numbers for how strong Goku is, how durable, how fast, etc. Screwattack will NEVER let Goku defeat Superman. This is why we need more than one GOOD company that does battles like this. We need a second opinion. We need someone who isn't so stubborn. I knew from the moment I saw how Ben was acting in the preview that Superman would win.
Chad Small Yo not even beerus was out of there when the explosion sparked. Don't forget whis' speed who is faster than beerus. We can never get the answers to this because akira toriyama doesn't give us numbers on how fast a person is. All we get are power levels, and power levels are indeed bullshit.
drakon master Power levels have never been bullshit. Just because they don't measure up other's power levels with scouters anymore in the series , doesn't means they aren't strong. Calculating SSJGSSJ Goku's power level won't make him more or less strong. He will be as strong as he is even without any power level measuring. It's just that it was being a pain in the ass for Toriyama to keep a track for everyone in the series after Freeza saga. Cell and Buu would have been just as strong as they were meant to be even if you had their power levels measured up. Nothing more. Nothing less.
drakon master If power levels were bullshit from the start , then everyone's whose power levels were measured till the Freeza saga , Like Goku's Vegeta's Gohan's Piccolo's , their powers and strength would be fake too right ?
Apparently, Superman can extend his limits to whatever he chooses. One second he's being smacked around by Lex Luthor, the next, he one shots him. That doesn't excuse this bullshit, but still.
superman places psychological limits on his own strength and releases them when necessary, its so he can live a "normal" life as a human, like if he doesnt restrain himself, he will kill someone if he hugs them or something lol
It's all about how prepped he is for the battle like the first match goku is obviously faster than super man so when super man absorbs radiation and just flew off from the fight to get to the sun goku is a brilliant analyzer and fighter he would've realized the sun power super man and would've stopped his ass dead in his tracks
Jack of All Vamps wtf they didn't go and do research u can tell bc they didn't go over the power of super Goku's new farm there just always make dbz fighters loose in this shit super man is probably stronger but they didn't go over guku's new pawer wtf and the fighting was good but still they just threw goku under the bus fuck!!!
Judah Israel ok onw vagetawon his fight and lastly this was a remach so they dont need to explain the same shitagainexcept mention the new stuff witch ssg andssgss is just power bost
The Video isn't real you know that right? The entire thing is done verbally and with evidence, a winner is decided, they then make the video and just make it interesting for people before explaining how they got their conclusions...
Kid Coheed Yeah. A lot of people think the actual DEATH BATTLE factors into the result. It doesn't. It's just made to be entertaining. As a SM fan more than a Goku fan, I can see why they're mad. It was a bit insulting to have superman stroll casually through Goku's full power Kamehameha and vaporize his brain, but, the result is still correct.
Seth Lunsford the actual death battles aren't meant to provide any information or vantage point over who would win. they are 100% for entertainment. but also, superman holds back in every fight. he doesn't go around 1 hitting everything, that is justice lord superman's demeanor. superman doesn't like killing, and he will do everything in his power to try to debilitate an opponent before he resorts to killing them. he tests his opponent's limits to see what they can handle first because he knows he could snap something's spine if he isn't careful enough. if superman and goku fought, superman would eventually understand goku's power. he would destroy the planet if he kept fighting. goku wasn't lying when he said he'd never stop. it was only then that superman would have understood that goku needed to be put down.
Tyrone actually touched on a very good point that I always bring up: Goku is a martial arts MASTER. He is a VASTLY superior technical fighter to Superman. Superman is very much more about brute power. I also don't believe Superman could simply walk through Goku's kamehameha like that; it was a powerful image and statement of Superman's power, but that single kamehameha wave could destroy entire planets. It would at least scuff Superman's pants, like come on. All of that aside, I do agree that Superman would whoop Goku's ass. I just don't think it would be THAT one-sided
+HollidayRespawn Well... I think I remember somewhere that the aura protecting superman, covers him AND his suit :/ But yeah it was meant to be a statement, and it was a strong one at that.
Stop being a fool, Death battle gave an example of superman surviving 50 supernovae in that very video. Do you realize how insignificant a planet destroying attack is compared to 50 fricking supernovae??? Btw goku has never demonstrated a kamehameha that could destroy planets. Let me put it this way, 50 supernovae can destroy an earth like planet 22222 billion times over!
HollidayRespawn When you are vastly faster than someone. Fighting skills mean next to nothing. Superman is also a trained martial artist trained in Kryptonian martial arts. He was also trained by both wonderwoman and batman. I didn't miss the point of your comment. You claimed that kamehameha should have hurt superman. But I have proved with evidence that it wouldn't leave a scratch.
Zoom Hunter The point of my comment was not that the kamehameha should have hurt Superman. Try again lol. And as to Superman's fighting style, I'll go off of what I've seen for years instead of what we are told that he never actually utilizes
of course he can goku took it down a notch so earth won't get harmed again if u watchd da cell saga u already saw wat happened wen vegeta used da final flash
It's pretty damn logical with Superman being able to walk through Goku's Kamehameha wave. The Kamehameha wave is made of electricity, which in other words is plasma. The sun is made mostly of plasma. You get the point? Superman lives from the energy of the sun. Being attacked by a wave from the sun is literally nothing to him, it only would make him stronger if anything. Goku did not know this and as such, it ended up as his downfall in the end. Although then again, there was no real chances for him to beat Superman. Goku can't read Superman's mind due to his Torquasm-Vo skills, to fight against people trying to control or READ his mind. He could not instant transmission him anywhere in this state. Especially not a red sun, since it would be his weakness. And in the end, Goku always preferred a fair fight. He never wants help from others to beat up tough opponents. It just would not be like him to instant transmission Superman near a red sun or to a piece of Kryptonite. If you go to Game Theorists page, search for the video about it. You'll see what I mean with the Kamehameha wave theory.
Screw Attack: > Implies you can kill a god > Implies stronger than Whis > Implies Goku fights at a slower speed than light (which after faster than light is instantaneous, oh yeah Goku can do that) > Implies Goku didn't defeat an opponet without limitations > Implies Superman is a better hero than Goku (fights in cities, kills thousands of people, destroyes earth) > Implies Superman is a jerk, walks in the dbz universe, steals the Dragon balls, to revive the earth (Selfish much) > Kills goku without mercy (who isn't evil) > Thinks they know stuff about Goku's possibly becoming a God. > Mentions "Titan," but one of them ends up, dying. Titan < God? > Forgets that Superman is very inconsistent. He's 50+ years older than Goku by the books. Dc fans: "SUCK IT KIDS" DBZ fans: "Whis can just kill Superman in his weakesr form, because time lord" Me = Super Saiyan God (Edit) Butthurt
Brandon Thach wrong in so many ways you are as master yoda would say. dbz gods can be killed as whis implies at the end of battle of gods. whis is only 50 percent stronger then beerus as whis is a 15 beerus is a 10 so yes superman could kill whis seeing as he has fought stronger people. goku is only faster than light instentanously when he uses instant transmisson but goku needs to concentrate to use it and superman being 1 millions times the speed of light goku won't have enough time to use it. they imply that goku the better hero at the end of the video but you probably skipped that part because your mad. also in deathbattle they basically share a universe it belongs to no one side. he revives the earth and saves everyone that is totally selfish saving mankind. goku was trying to kill superman with that kamehamaha wave you would have killed goku to it's called self defence. they kn oiw enough about the god form to say that goku would loose. he almost died to a lazer beam weaker then zarbon and can't even beat beerus. weak god form. dbz gods are not like other gods. dbz gods can be killed by regular people. example beerus getting injured by vegeta and frieza hurting goku. so it maes sense to bring up a titan. superman is very consistent that's why he has reboots to keep things in order. even iof goku had 50 pus manga's superman will alwaysn win. dbz fanboy goku will win and i have no proof to back it. also whis can only go back in time for 3 minutes stop lying dbz fanboy. dc fan brings up feats to back up there claim or any other fanbase besides dbz. .
Superman cannot beat Whis whom is constantly shown using magic. Akira Toriyama should just end this shit and come out and say God Ki is magic based. Magic can't be sensed just like how Majin Buu couldn't be sensed right after being released from the cocoon.
Soliden1000 He probably can actually, because before Black Adam fought Shazam he fought Superman a lot and Black Adams attacks are literally solely magic attacks and Superman was perfectly fine in the sense that he could keep up and hold his own.
On the speed part.. dupes is a snail compared to goku.. goku actually fights at light speed. Supes flies really fast to a destination. Instant transmission is just goku thinking of a place he wants to be. Why would u think it would be impossible for goku to think himself into different places during a battle? Dupes is no match at all when it comes to speed. Goku has extended thoughts while surpassing light speed in battles. Can supes think that fast? I think not.. very biased outcome in this battle
David D Supes was able to punch the flash and seeming as how the punch would have to keep up with flash and the flash moves faster than light i think it's safe to say that supes can fight faster than the speed of light
DBGaming regardless he is strong not a martial artist. said noting about him winning. just weird all the kids like where he got it from. does it come natural? like mike tyson fighting like bruce lee like wth. he is strong ok but please he isn't a martial artist.
Alain Gervais That's a bit of a misconception. Superman actually is familiar with martial arts; he's used both Kryptonian Martial arts and has picked up some stuff from Wonder Woman and Batman.
I'm going to say one thing. When Goku God (Not SS Blue) fought Beerus, they were told that if their fight were to continue, they would destroy the universe. Now Goku SS Blue is at least 10 times stronger than SS God (Which is now his base form power level) So this means that if Goku were to fight full strength as SS Blue, He could easily take out superman who can't even destroy a galaxy. Another thing, Goku can take out people that use 4th dimension attacks like hit and he wasn't even using Kio Ken when they last fought. So I'm going to say this once...Superman wouldn't even be a challenge for the new Base Form Goku after his battle with Hit.
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I know most, if not all, of superman's feats. I can say with 100% certainty, the only superman Goku cannot beat, is Post-Crisis. For every other superman, Goku will have to go a pure max of SSJ3.
@@yeetsmcgee5446 absolutely every superman is an expert in torquasm rao and torquasm vao, this is an important information because these martial arts allow superman to tap into the power of different iterations of himself from different universe's and continuities
Deathbattle...they used the same Equations they made up from the first Goku vs. Superman. Their solutions were wrong, Goku is way faster and stronger than they say he is. As well, Superman...they messed up a bit on him as well. Deathbattle should've waited a while so we know how strong SSG and SSGSS is, we don't have a exact multiplier or estimate for the two transformations. They just pulled SSG and SSGSS strength out of their ass, wait until Dragon Ball Super shows the true strength of the transformations. Not being butthurt, just saying they messed up on the deathbattle...again. Though, we all knew Superman was going to win anyways since he's a Mary-Sue.
Actually I think goku and superman both have no limits but I think the difference is goku works hard for his power while supes just has it and brings it out when needed.
Donald Da Boss By Screwattack's logic, Batman must be able to beat Goku as well right? oh wait....Spiderman killed Batman! yet Batman beat Superman lol This shit is just like Strider Hiryu beating Ryu Hayabusa despite the fact people know Hayabusa is immortal lol
He's not actually human due to his dragon lineage, and the start of Ninja Gaiden 2004 he was cut in half at the start of the game only to end up revived 3 weeks later lol
Well if they did goku vs new 52 superman goku would win easy because that superman (the new superman) is still learning how to use his powers he can't even fly right now.
TurtleOver Lord Poor compared to today's standards. Superman came out during a time in America where people needed to believe in something and aspire to greatness. If the "good"characters of today had came out during that time in comic books, they likely wouldn't have done as well. Today's writers just keep the core of Superman's character with modern day plot elements. He is the most known comic book character in history. Comic books exist in popularity because of him.
Shady Doorags No Superman during his early years (First comics), he was better written, he wasn't so Op and there was better story development. Over the years a bunch of different writers made Superman so powerful it was ridiculous.
TurtleOver Lord Superman was always written to be more powerful than everyone else and an upstanding guy. Back then, it was just being super strong. Today, because of how DC works, its having ALL the powers.
Shady Doorags You should read Alan Moore's piece on why super heroes are a fucking cancer to modern fiction.
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people who say superman has limits are just mad and dont want to accept the fact that superman is better at almost everything goku does i like dragonball z but lets be honest superman is to OP for even the saitama a new superhero that everyone says is unbetable facts.
actually the creator of DBZ said that sayins have no limits. they keep getting stronger every battle and they brake every stage possible and they create new ones so i think Goku should have won
goku has been written by the original creator all these years and superman isnt. so if you talk about the originally superman creator then he is no match.
+DinamicCrusher's ThunderStrikes I read all the comics of DC till now along with Marvel, and there are so many stronger characters and faster, it's not like I'm going to say one by one but he is nowhere near limitless, he is fifth dimensional, however that doesn't make him limitless..... he even says it himself.....
+Lane Alder go to DC readers, and I read all the comics and still reading, and screwattck is just biased, go to comics amino, and go to DC statements, so you can believe.....
Youngster Joey wrong it just makes the multiverse exist.... new 52 is still OUR superman in OUR universe. the other supermen were from different universes... they are NOT the same supermen....
I feel if a hero or villian has no limits then what is the point of them fighting, i like goku more than superman, for me he is a more developed character than superman. This fight ruined screwattack for me i feel they could have ended it better than the cheap way they did it and if they don't like anime they should just stick to other genres, don't get me wrong i thought superman would win just not so easily.
Malcolm Neill the superman that screwattack had in the video is just playing with goku because he is apparently in his limitless god self. Superman is not weak in his universe he can beat everyone in it just like goku can in his but goku got limits put on him were as superman had no limits. There was no battle here just screwattack put to two fingers up to anyone who wanted to see a true fight not a joke like what we all got.
dbzsongoku1 goku can beat everyone in his universe it doesn't matter how strong whiss and his master are because he will eventually surpass them and beat them.
vizarack Another ignorant person...well for your information, Boomstick *hates* Superman, and they both love DBZ. But it's not even an opinion anymore: Superman wins.
I have no idea why people are saying goku would win. Doesn't matter how many saiyans goku gets if superman is practically invincible. I do think goku is a better developed character but it's time to face the facts people.
+Steven Fly I know your probably joking, but author statements can't be equated to canonical feats. Plus he wouldn't get off a single punch on either of these two, they would killed him in a nanosecond at dozens of times the speed of light.
why not ? basically the authors decide the potential of a character, if we are gonna put superman vs goku and make it win, becouse of unfairness, than my imaginary character is stronger than superman, there u go :)
Superman is known for manny thing but one of most popular is he always hold back always even when world will be destroyed he dont show us his true power.
I'm tired of trolls using the "Batman can beat Superman" argument. Do you not realize that Batman has kryptonite, given by Superman himself by the way, in case Superman ever went evil? There is no way anyone can beat Superman unless they are magical in power, or they use kryptonite. That is why Lex Luthor has a ton of Kryptonite in his posession. That is why Batman uses it in Batman vs. Superman. That is why Metallo can beat Superman (He has a kryptonite core) Goku fights enemies at their max potential, while he is at his max as well. Using kryptonite and instant transmission to teleport to a random area in space is cowardly. That is not what Goku is about. Besides, even if Goku were to use Instant transmission, Superman has the capability to travel over x1 million the speed of FUCKING LIGHT! He has super hearing that could hear Goku over the span of half of the galaxy! This is a fight! Goku would not run away EVER! Forgot to add that Wonder Woman and even Zatanna can beat Superman. (They are magical in power.) There are a ton of DC characters that can stand up to Superman bcause they are magical in power (Dr. Fate and Raven other ones.) or they use kryptonite, which brings Superman down to human level.
Here's the thing. Superman is a wall. Naturally, you want to break that wall. When you do though, there is another wall behind it, and another, and another, and another. There is an infinite number of walls behind walls. You will be breaking infinite walls for eternity. It doesn't matter how strong Goku gets, Superman can match him, and become even stronger than that. Actually, that is what the entire Dragonball series is about. Climbing walls. Superman has only lost when: He didn't understand his powers completely, kryptonite, fighting a supernatural opponent, or fighting someone with a supernatural or kryptonite device. Goku cannot keep his most powerful form forever. Eventually, Goku will run out of energy, as is the case with many fights in the Dragonball universe. (Majin Buu for example. They had to actually use the Dragonballs to restore Goku's energy to use the Spirit Bomb on Buu to defeat him.) Superman does not run out of energy at all. He can keep his same strength forever. That is why he is called Superman, and that is why he wins this fight. Batman knows it, and the entire JLA knows that Superman cannot be beat unless you have his only weaknesses.
Dastan Yes we know that superman will probably always beat goku. Goku can get all strong as he wants, he won't ever reach Superman Prime's power and abilities. But Discard Goku vs Superman, I only meant that superman can be defeated by more things than only being weakened by kriptonite. Like there is also the red sun that weakens him and if he stumbles across a more powerfull opponent than him.
That's supermans speed flying in a straight line watch Quammanslands video on it he goes more in depth but here's the summary superman is quick on his linear speed but fighting speed he is slower than Wonder Woman and goku completely dominates him in fighting speed and can catch him with instant transmission on linear movements
My other comment came out wrong, I meant to say that Superman has *No limits !!!* Superman is the First ever superhero the base character that started it all, Nobody can surpass him Because the writers will not allow it and rightfully soo. ....Hulk has limits there is a guy on RUclips where he gets so Mad that he passes out !! The same would happen to the hulk, You *can Not* stay mad forever it's impossible !!! .......Superman can absorb limitless amounts of sunlight.... He has absorb enough sunlight to destroy the planet. Superman is like a giant sponge that soak up all sunlight.
I officially hate screw attack for that shit. That was just..wow utter bullshit I'm not a diehard dbz fan but I smell utter bullshit from that. I mean something like a Kamehameha wave that someone as weak as ROSHI can destroy the MOON with? Now just think about the power difference there. Goku could easily whipe out the whole solar system with a Kamehameha if you think about it power wise and super man just WALKED through it? His CLOTHS WEREN'T EVEN FUCKING DAMAGED. I'm just fucking pissed at this bullshit right here but goku will get more powerful so just wait
Dinzel Walker-Smith I agree, and I think that goku could have destroyed more than a galaxy with that wave. A FULLY powered kamehameha at ssj god ss would kill (or if not) gravely damage normal superman. I don't think superman could do that and walk trough it. The only way for superman do walk trough that is if he's Superman Prime
Screw attack piss me off so much. Superman had more trouble fighting regular super sayain goku then both his god forms this bullshit. Even if superman and goku are even in strength it's no way superman can keep up with goku's fighting and movement's overall fuck screw attack we gonna bring some noise too yall doorstep
Brandon Phillips You do realize they are never to do another Superman vs Goku right? They are moving on to different death battles and are laying this one to rest.
Brandon Phillips What is the deal with you people? i swear to god it's like you are so single minded in your way of thinking that relevant things go over your head. 1. THE FIGHTS ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT. The way they are choreographed, what happens during them, everything about it is for entertainment. That's why Goku used every skill he had developed during the first battle, even the power pole that people so adamantly questioned. Fact of the matter is, The Dragon throw, Dragon fist, power pole are useless in the fight, they are all too weak to do anything. They were added for completeness of portrayal purposes too. Same reason with Superman's Freeze breath, which is a technique too weak to bother Goku anyways. 2. SINCE THE FIGHT CHOREOGRAPHY IS IRRELEVANT, your statement loses all credibility. How Superman was CHOREOGRAPHED to appear in the last battle is less relevant to the outcome than how much butter these character like on their toast. A straight up comparison of feats shows that Superman has survived power beyond anything Goku has ever done, taking hits that Goku has never taken, dished out hits and feats of strength and speed that make Dragonball look like a group of Miss Daisys. Seriously, what is so hard to grasp that Goku cannot do a quarter of the things Superman has done. Like I just don't get it. Why can't people be objective about shit? I love anime and manga more than comics by a mile. Comics are just too inaccessible to me. But I don't let my love of anything influence objective discussions. Goku loses to Supes. 9/10. The only time Goku wins is against the very weakest of the weakest versions of Supes, such as in his first run when his feats were lifting cars, and moving faster than bullets, and maybe even the DCAU version, even though that version i have heard has a light speed feat so who knows. Anyways, just look at the evidence
THE_Hyperbeam Goku can't surpass that limit because there isn't a limit to surpass. That's like saying if Goku went up against someone who could lift infinity pounds, Goku would surpass that and lift more than infinity which isn't possible.
GameNexus And let's not forget that if Goku did somehow overcome that limit, then he would have reached his goal and would lose the meaning of what he stands for: Overcoming odds. Since he is at the top then he would have nothing to do.
doomsday doesn't get stronger or weaker he stays the same and they said that his powers are unlimited doesn't that mean when he was fighting doomsday he was going all out so he does have limits
not even that, Batman has a contingency plan against the whole justice league, exploiting their weaknesses, wonder woman's determination to keep fighting, flashes speed, superman's need to help the innocent, green lanterns guilt to rob him of his willpower, Martian Manhunter's weakness to fire.
I agree, the fights should be evenly matched (otherwise what's the point of even arguing which is which). But this IS a rematch, the first they've done, and the first fight was very very long. I'm sure it was just so they could put out there and have more time to tell the fans why.
Superman does have limits early on, but his limits were self imposed. When he finally truly accepted his heritage, which took a long time, he became a god basically.
It really doesn’t matter. Goku doesn’t have any feats that say he can match Clark. Even if you want to call him a “god” it doesn’t matter, because even the “gods” of Dragon Ball like Zeno can’t match Superman.
Combining three versions of Superman was cheap as hell.
Tex The Slayer I saw New 52's suit. Their explanation for why Superman won used multiple versions of Superman.
sadsadsa asadasd someone who knows his shit! They said they didn't use multiple versions, but stuff they discussed pulled from other versions.
Tex The Slayer I would have been fine if it were another version, because there are forms of Superman who would wipe the floor with Goku, but that outfit is New 52. That Superman isn't that powerful.
Kryptonian Saiyan doesnt matter. superman was never meant to be beatable to begin with.
Andreas Stiben New 52, but only under one condition could it happen.
To be honest... the VASTLY understated how powerful superman is, he has punched through universes , realities, flown beyond the source wall , moved realities. he is basically god in a meat shell .
100% agree. I think goku has a better chance vs justice league cartoon superman. But comic feats for sups is just too much for the db universe. Silver age and pre crisis were broken.
HAHAHA. I could imagine you slowly taking off your Goku shirt and putting on a Superman shirt soon after that battle ended.
Lol
Goku's my favourite but there's no way he'll ever beat Superman.
Goku is my favorite and there's no way he'll beat goku really. But you can call on screwattack to screw things up.
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Droopy Aura New 52 Superman has limits to his power. For instance, his solar flare is good for one shot, If he misses, Superman loses all his powers and becomes human. Goku dodges and could KO Superman.
So Batman beats Superman, who is said to have no limits? The ending was bullshit, but I knew Superman would win.
Plus, they lied on Goku's part saying he was the savior of the Universe. That was a fanmade voice over.
VastoKingLorde that wasn't fan made. it was the original Funimation dub. Funimation and Ocean changed a lot of the dialogue from the manga.
Goku Fans:That was a pretty solid battle I like Goku but i agree with the outcome
Goku Fanboys:That was a crappy battle.Goku should have one B.S
DBZtards: WTH goku could like 1 shot superman superman cant even do anything goku is lik way more pwerful
Kingshanethelad This is so true.
Kingshanethelad jajajajajajaja so true, as a goku fan, i agree
Kingshanethelad I think Goku should have put up more of a fight, I understand why he lost but so easily is kind of sad.
Ibrahim Khurram Goku will never surpass Superman Prime.
superman one million have thousands of times the powers of superman, is an over-buffed version of superman, and tons of people who can beat superman for sure (like Galactus, the celestials, rune king thor or phoenix,) would be wrecked in a single punch of superman one million, i think you are not fully aware of how stupid are your "examples"
(except the obvious ones like TOAA or living tribunal)
www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/superman-prime-one-millions-power-levels-747026/
When they say that superman has no limits they mean that his power doesn't have a specific level and that he is always getting stonger and he is always finding new feets such as the solar flare
+Abdul ahmed Actually it was determined through him being able to do things like, lift a book of infinite pages, which means it is infinitely heavy. And yet he lifted it, meaning his power is equal to or greater than infinite.
Or that he flew 25 light-years in 10 minutes.
"supermsn having no limits" bullshit
Brandon Coleman nice argument dude. Many valuable points were made >_>
Goku has no limits, either though, as stated by King Kai himself. He stated that the longer Saiyans fight, the stronger they become.
Greatpaladin N7 If superman can get beat by doomsday and batman(a human) I'm pretty sure a character like Goku would have superman down on the ground. (Just my opinion dude)
the crazy part is that they released this at a DBZ anniversary event; people were walking out of the theater in angry droves
Goku: A man with one specific story.
Superman: A man with God knows how many different adaptations of his story.
I'm going with one story on this. Goku wins. He also wins for the single fact that he has limits and can be beaten. Relatable. Supes has no limits, which is just stupid and boring.
Smasho8000 Not to mention totally unrealistic. And they cover that shit up by saying Supes can bend the laws of reality!! LMFAO!!!!
Sriram Prasath You can't really argue realism in fiction.
Smasho8000 I'm waiting for this kind of answer for a long time. Superman has been written by a LOT of writers, has many versions and has been running in publication since its debut. Toriyama ends DBZ at Buu Saga or if you want to go by the series itself, it ends at GT, after that there aren't any official continuation of it. There's hasn't been any progress for Goku since then until the recent BoG movie, compared to Superman. If wanna have a fair fight, we go with the year, Goku's stats VS Superman's stats during the year where DBZ or DBGT ends.
zwann_mustapah You're a little misinformed here. The official continuation of Goku is still going, with Dragon Ball Super, while GT was a non-canon spin off.
Well, that's true. But that's kinda too recent though since its still just ep3.
am I...the only one who still thinks goku can win? I mean, elder kai said beerus could easily destroy the entire unvierse if he wanted to and we know goku is 70% as strong as beerusso...yea. plus goku punched through king kai's planet which was calculated to be denser than a white dwarf star. Punching through it would require an energy equal to 1 million supernovas. Goku has that in just a punch. Superman barely survived a blast of puny 50 supernovas. And goku has instant transmission which has no speed, it's just instant. Supes cant beat that. And again, beerus scales 14 billion light years in 26 minutes. at 70% of that, it means goku should be able to cover a little less than 10 billion light years in 26 minutes. Supes in his greatest feat could only travel 150 light years in that timespan...
I honestly dont see how superman can win. He had major feats but they forgot to mention that the most OP superman spent 15000 years inside the sun to get that strong. He cant get to that level over a battle, not to mention his solar powers would severely deplete while fighting on that level and goku could just beat him in endurance. I want superman to win, I tried, I looked into it but I see at least 8 possibilities how goku can win and a 1 very very faint possibility superman could (if goku fights him after he spent 15000 in the sun, which is highly unlikely to happen, but even then it would be a very equal fight that could go either way). Superman has a limit to his power, he has limitless POTENTIAL. If the muscles in the human body could make all its muscles lift upwards, the human body has the potential to lift nearly 2 tons....you dont see me bench-pressing cars, do you? Supes has limitless potential but the height of his strength still heavily depends on sunlight. he has limited reserves. that's why he loses from time to time
blazejecar Thank you! A person with common sense!
blazejecar Well, I see where you're coming from, but your misconceived. It is never stated he could obliterate a universe in one shot, they said that about Kid Buu, yet he was only shown being able to systematically destroy the universe over time going planet to planet. King Kai's planet is also magically enhanced, so use of physics is moot. Instant Transmission being instant isn't that big of a deal. He has to focus on a certain area to perform it and lacks fighting capabilities while in instant transmission. Also you contradicted yourself by saying "It is instant" then saying being able to traverse 10 billion light years in 26 minutes. Instant.... is instant.
blazejecar Superman's endurance is crazy above Goku's, and so is strength and travel speed. Goku's energy projection is simply not the equivalence of multiple supernovae (read above statement). Superman Prime One million should not be used because he can basically erase Goku from his universe.... so don't even bring that in, it's a completely different form. Superman's supply of sun radiation has never shown to run out over time. He can fight for hours in the vacuum of space. Such as him taking on Sodam Yat (Ion).
Greer Jones dragonball super, episode 3. Elder kai specifically states beerus can destroy the universe...as for the planet thing, freeza with 3/4 of his body missing and power completely down survived namek exploding. infant broly survived planet vegeta blowing up...and other occasions show that this king kai planet thing is not too farfetched. as for speed, one is instant transmission which has been used in fighting before. if we stay at beerus, he even uses it against him at a part of the fight. The example with the universe travel is an example of speed WITHOUT instant transmission, not with it. Beerus and whis travel from their world to king kai's planet as fast as they can. By toriyama's sketches of the universes, there's around 1 universe worth of distance, so around 14 billion light years. if you want another example, in the daizhenshuu they calculated his speed from namek. There he scales half the planet in a tiny fraction of a second to fight frieza. It was calculated his speed was around 2 million miles/second! Given power growth from then to FnF, + ssj multipliers and you get at least a few hundred quadrillion miles per hour, which is a few thousand times faster than the fastest superman. And you can find this all on the daizenshuu, the official dragonball source
Goku is a better Martial Artists. Superman's power though is just broken. Goku is a better character though.
I have to say my favorite thing in this whole 'debate' is when DBZ fans try to low-ball Superman...even thought that's NOT what Goku would want in a fight. A guy that has let planet-destroyers fully power up for a good fight, and destroyed a piece of Kryptonite in the first fight as well as offer Clark a Senzù Bean afterwards, and his fans want to WEAKEN his opponent in order to claim a victory...
just think of goku losing this way I don't think goku would want to fight super man any ways they both are the protectors of earth and both can do a lot of the same things
Goes to show you how a lot of fans of a particular character don't ever truly understand the mindset of their favorite character, though I partly blame this on Funimation and Ocean's early runs
+kaihedgie Superman is strong, of course Goku wants to fight him. They both probably wouldn't fight to the death though. Like seriously they wouldn't unless they killed like each other's wives or something.
+immanuel rendon
Even if they are fighting fairly for YEARS NONSTOP. Goku would eventually tire out While Superman will not.
Superman has fought an army of planet destroying demons for thousands of years while bereft of Sunlight.
So no Superman doesn't tire out.
+immanuel rendon
You're right, it wouldn't be to the death.
But, the thing is, that channel is called Death Battle, wich means the characters fight with everything they got.
I actually really like the explanation at the end
If your are fans of dragon ball z, I don't care if you don't admit it, we all tried to bring our ki out to learn to fly
Proud to admit. Did it with my brother too
lmfao
We kept saying
"BRUH I THINK I SAW A SPARK"
Never did but I did want to turn super saiyan
Well guys, there is only one man who is limitless and truly can't be beaten....
AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!!!
**Cue Cena's entrance music**
F44B3 if i could, i would give you a high five xD
F44B3 Except Superman isn't actually limitless. Darkseid whoops his ass all the time, pre ~and~ post crisis. :P
Sean Hurley darkseid has no limit, he is a god as well and wants to kill superman because superman is one of a handful of beings who can kill him
Pauleen .Finlay If both of them have no limits than one cannot defeat the other it would be a complete stalemate.
darkseid has used more of is potential
The tears of dbz fans let me drink them XD
It was a good way for Goku to go😁👍🏼
I gotta say I think the fight from the first one was waaay better
Evil Ken
you're evil
Evil Ken I have enough table salt to distribute around the Death Star.
POPP Moreno hahahahahaha 😂😂
Death Battle are not biased. They have stated that they hate Superman and like Goku. So quit complaining!
When and where was this stated? Looks like they are fanboys to me
@@angelfall4164 it was in a tweet from their official Twitter account, they said they all prefer Goku and wanted to make him win, but they had to base the fight on the stats and facts to try to be unbiased.
@@angelfall4164 lmao from an outsiders perspective because I'm not really a huge fan of either you sound like the fanboy
@rishabh singh sure little dude.. sure.. goku will win..
@Nabeel Khan goku more popular than superman??
I'm a Goku fan, and I knew this was going to happen. It had that written all over it. My problem is, he just strolled through the Kamehameha like he was walking through the park. That Kamehameha would have easily been able to destroy this planet, at least make his clothes become ripped. I mean he was fine, it looked like he was walking into on of those big fans that blow so hard that everything goes back. I guess I would be classified as having insanity, as I want this to keep happening, but with a different result
***** bro I'm a dbz fan too but I hate to say it superman is the definition of op
Ikr it's so stupid so I can punch him and do damage but if I use my KAMEHAMEHA it doesn't even leave any pain or scratch they definitely made this look as though I'm weak i could've easily insta transmission every punch and kick or punch him in the back but no they made me look like I wanted to be beat up this fights not OVER!!! 😾
I mean when in regular god form it blew him back
Check out Roaring Thunder Pursuit it's a better outlook on characters and less biased
mafiajoe619 it's that right there holding back that honestly makes him sound like a dickweed the reason I hate Superman is because someone to do something to him that doesn't really affect him and he has this face of like. really why are you trying and that's why I don't like him it makes him seem like a cocky douche
Wow, you're a lot more calmer than most people who react to these types of videos from Death Battle.
But Goku something something god something something power level nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!
- Dragon Ball fans
JoeytheJoeyX3
Look, it comes down to pure power, which Superman has in spades. The reason I don't enjoy Superman is because he's so OP. It's kind of boring watching something try and go up against him just because I know he's so massively powerful.
I know the outcome. Superman wins. It's just what he does.
JoeytheJoeyX3 You are making fun of dbz fans about the transformations, when superman "reborn" a lot of times and never lose a battle.
JoeytheJoeyX3 you know what i say.
Sonic wins!
EVERYONE
Emiliano Martin Dominguez Frese To be fair, I'm actually a huge DBZ fan myself, I just also know how ridiculously overpowered DC has made Superman over the years. Honestly, I dislike Superman because he's so overpowered. It kind of makes it boring; there's almost nothing he can't do.
I think a cooler fight would be Goku AND Vegeta fighting Superman as a team. They'd have a pretty decent chance then =) .
+JoeytheJoeyX3 I Agree
13:34 I had the same reaction. I was routing for Superman the whole time, but I didn't think he'd do something like that.
It's not even the fact that Goku lost, it's the fact that Superman murdered him, that bothers me. He just doesn't DO that. It's not in his character.
Just let superman be,it wouldn't be fair if I used the kryptonite,am too good for it.
So let him enjoy his cheap victory! :)
Fairy Tail Podcast superman didn't kill goku he use is heat vision to fuck up his brain so he couldn't fight anymore because goku said he would never stop that why he didn't let him fall at the end
Fairy Tail Podcast its called fucking death battle for a reason fucking idiot
Fairy Tail Podcast Well if he kept goku alive he would just come back and they would end up destroying the planet again
Fairy Tail Podcast its also not in Goku's character to just accept Superman being invincible. Has goku ever really given up? there was that ONE time with Beerus where he admited, but even after he still trained. Just like he trained iwth Whiz
SuperMan = Using Cheat Codes In A Game
Goku = A Person Who Completed A Game 100% With No Cheats
Yash Dutt besides revive cheat 12-thousand freaking times
Yash Dutt
Super man=Guy who uses invincibility cheats
Goku=guy who uses infinite lives cheats
No he is just a god tier character vs some skrub
Pretty much
Yash Dutt true
“No I will never back down from a fight”
Goku to cell “I give up”
John D doesn’t matter the reason, still gave up 🖕
@@alfayomega17 toxic but ok
"Dragonball Z fans are angry right now!" true dat
hey where did you get that shirt! That's pretty cool!
donatellothegraet HOT TOPIC
Tyrone Magnus React to SSJ 9000 Dragon ball Z Parodys!! React to Battle of Gods parody Parts 1 to 3
They are really epic
donatellothegraet Also if you go to anime/manga/comic conventions they have loads of them too
donatellothegraet My friend got one at Hot Topic
donatellothegraet why dont they team up and guard earth from the evil of the 6th dimmension
"ScrewAttack, do you know what you've just done???" 🤣😂👏🏻👊🏻
DBZ fans are so quick to say ScrewAttack made Superman win. He was going to win regardless. And to make matters worst DBZ fans asked for this rematch and they even proved again why he lost a second time.
Even if they did a third rematch and I'm sure they will the outcome will never change.
sublimek No, we won't ask Screwattack for a rematch, cause they are obviously biased, heck they didn't even bother to hide it in this video. They should just keep their grubby little fingers away from anime and be done with it.
sublimek They clearly showed Superman having *INFINITE POWER*. Do you know what that means? Goku could train non-stop for a billion years and he would still be shit-stomped. And they praised Goku as a character while they criticized Superman for being overpowered as hell and how he breaks reality. They were only biased in your head. And before you say anything, I was rooting for Goku. Sure, the "walking through the Kamehameha" was maybe a bit too much, but if Superman does have *INFINITE POWER*, then that is a reasonable outcome. And where did that idea of Screwattack being biased against anime come from? Vegeta won against Shadow, when the power of Super Saiyans and the Chaos Emeralds are difficult to compare, where was the bias against anime? Guts won against Nightmare and he was the freaking underdog, where was the bias against anime? Goku lost, get over it. I'm sad too, but not gonna let this rule my life. If you can't handle having the people you root for losing, why do you bother watching a show where there is a good possibility that person dies?
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gcircle Mathematically. As Goku's time training approaches infinity, he can be on par with Superman.
Emmanuel Gonzalez No Goku could already take on Superman. Goku fought a Universe Buster, and the creators say Goku (when he first fought him) was at 70% of his power. Superman < Universe Buster so Superman < Goku.
Superman was able to walk through Goku's Kamehameha because he could have been vibrating his molecules, like the Flash does. This allows him to phase through attacks and solid objects, many people forget about this ability for some reason. Look up "Molecular Oscillation" for more information on this ability.
Also, people are misunderstanding what ScrewAttack was, saying, when they said: "limitless potential", I think that they were referring to the fact that Superman can just keep absorbing yellow solar radiation thus, unlimited in the sense of increasing his power.
Tyron vs superman?
superman may be limitless , but tyrone is the black viking , and superman is no match for the black viking
Ermiland Don't even get me started on Cunyraypoonktinney
Ermiland SSGSS3 Tyrone Magnus vs Superman (Ryan Right).
Tyrone! Magnus is half Kryptonian and Asgardian!! LOL HA HA HA!!
Ermiland Would tyrone weakness be women or purple kryptonite..........YOU DECIDE!!!!!!
really screw attack? Superman just walked straight through that kamehameha..fuck screw attack
You seem to forget that one version of superman withstood a black hole and was capable of destroying the universe!
Immortal Nexon the fight it self is just for visuls its not to be taken seriusly i mean look up dealiest worriors ((i might of miss spellend that
Immortal Nexon Pretty sure Superman went Intangible. Think I remember him doing it pre new 52.
powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Intangibility
Ash Ketchum shut up dude he not that strong
Same
Screw Attack wasn't going for Superman beats goku.
THEY WENT AND DISRESPECT A BIG PART OF SOMEONE"S CHILDHOOD
But its okay when Batman Beats Superman cause that make sense a normal human can fight superman. with that logic Mr. Satan > Superman
Thesinistereyes1 I feel they respected both characters, and they went out of their way to show how great a character he was.
Batman was using kryptonite :v
That comic wasn't canon dude, was written by a Batman fanboy and in that comic, Superman was holding back and Batman had help and kryptonite
***** then how about this since superman new 52 is not superman prime 1 million he not gathered godly power from the source so shouldnt gokus godki kamehameha hurt him he doesnt even have resistance to godly powers at this point but screw attack never did any research to types of abilities also why do they fight where superman can get unlimited amount of energy. FOS. but Goku can never fight like in King Kai's planet or elder kai's planet. or at least use sensu beans he was never allowed to regain energy in any fights but supes have unlimited amount since the sun is always available how is that a fair straight fight?
***** Apprently because they use that excuse, they makes them DBZ fanboys right? Sure... Superman wasn't even at fullpower. Batman had help from Robin and Green Arrow in addition to use Kryptonite. I like Batman and Goku more than Superman, but he would beat them both in a straight up fight.
well he is superman as long as he in yellow sun he is unstoppable while goku energy would runout lol this ending makes sense
he more powerful if he around a blue sun actually
+abner hall lol eather way no way goku stands a chance
+Robert Hoff yes in reality goku will run out of power while superman take a very long time aslong he doesnt amped his heat vision.
I cant dont believe goku could do that he would hurt many people from different universes.Coie anti monitor is a guy that will do that but goku nah.
Raa16 Superman powers doesnt stops look up superman prime one million or kingdom come superman.the older he gets the more powerful he gets.
Hopefully we as DBZ fans and ScrewAttack can move on from this. There are so many other characters worthy of a death battle where it's an actual debate.
Zero Regen honestly they should just ban characters like superman from death battle. wheres the fun if he literaly cant possibly be defeated?
Zero Regen Yes i would rather see more interesting fights if this kind of bs is going to be produced with goku vs superman. Flash death battle!!!
Andreas Stiben only Kirby Deadpool and Chuck Norris can defeat Superman
And bruce lee
Zero Regen I was at the Live showing of this fight, and the DBZ fans too the loss quite well. We knew there a strong possibility that Goku would lose again, but we had hope. However when Superman won, the DC fans just had to rub our noses in the loss.
superman the first superhero ever created is the blueprint for all superheroes without superman there wouldn't even be a goku.
Agreed. Not many people seem to understand that, or they just overlooked that fact
+Kai of Earth Right because EVERY HERO AFTER SUPERMAN WAS CLEARLY BASED ON HIM. Goku is completely different from Superman.
Bungle Wiltshire yes he was a blueprint or in short terms a mathematical equation to build a superhero.
that's a lie superman was made in the U.S.A. and has no link to goku as said in the video goku was based off journey to the west
+Jesus of Earth so I'm stupid for having an opinion? if so than that would make you equally as stupid, would it not?
I only restated facts you would know a quote if you weren't a mouth breathing beard neck with a conceptual idea of cross religionary concepts
I mean come on can't you decide whether Jesus does exist and is in heaven or , wait, are you calling yourself a Messiah
If superman was limitless HE WOULDNT HAVE FUCKING DIED IN THE FIRST PLACE WOULD HE???
Correct! Just see superman superstar
Seriously... Superman didn't die he just got beaten up, and he was just learning all his powers at that time.
Marteen Villamor Right he never died neither was his body ever physically destroyed cannon wise. He was just in a healing coma and most likely didnt know how to remove his mental blocks to his true power.
nathan warren Superman never died bruh
nathan warren Doomsday is stronger than kryponians so of course it's possible for him to beat superman to death. Goku has no such strength.
Is he can sit in the sun for 15 years he can walk through a blast
You can't deny though, Goku's death in this was kinda sad. Superman gave him a quick, painless death and obviously respected him, but had to stop him to avoid damage.
In an official crossover, you know for a damn fact that the Z fighters would be accepted into the Justice League and Goku and Superman would be VERY close allies. Though I think Goku would get along better with Shazam cause they both have child-like mentalities.
Lauri Hyvärinen I think Piccolo is a better "sit in the shadows and frown all day" partner
Lauri Hyvärinen LOOOOOL! IM DEAD AND SO TRUE
Indy The Great can this happen i want it to happen
Indy The Great I agree, Superman basically taught Goku a lesson on how trivial fighting can be when you think about things that are better suited to do with your time, and sometimes it's not all about proving your the best fighter in the world/universe. Even though he sounded kind of arrogant because of how they wrote the script.
Indy The Great I laughed tbh. Superman was nice enough to catch him before he splat on the ground.
Super man does have limits..... Freaking infinity is his limit
Tyrone Magnus I'm here to clear up your confusion, The Hulk Does Have unlimited Strength but his strength only increases do to the amount of rage he has at that time.
But Superman is constantly gaining strength no matter what because as you know he is constantly gaining power from the suns heat rays. In conclusion superman constantly has that strength where the hulk only has it for momentary time frames.
The way Supermans powers work literally keep his power from being unlimited , the level of his power depends on how much solar energy he has stored in his body .
Funniest shit ever, goku got his ass wooped again. Cant wait for the rerematch when he gets fucking orange or pink hair
Kiran Balraj Yes pink hair Goku is scary strong
This dude a power ranger
Goku will have white w\ grayish hair that represent wisdom
Kiran Balraj Screwattack pretty much said there won't be a another rematch. That was the whole deal with King Kai's speech to Goku: since Superman has no limits, Goku cannot overcome them. However, I would certainly like to see a more balanced fight, like Goku Vs. The Hulk (or an out-of-this-world fight, like Unicron Vs. Galactus).
Show some god damn respect. It was never about who is the strongest. But rather what the stood for. Goku is a dreamer. A man always pushing himself to new heights. Superman is the all powerful. He is the man with all the power who is always worrying about using his powers to do the right thing. I really don't like the fact that people would insult either of them. Stop the bullshit.
They said that they're both at their maximum potential, and at his max Supes is known as Superman Prime 1,000,000 an omniscient being who has the power to be everywhere at once and open dimensional rifts with his mind, as well as will things in and out of existence. That's why he has no limits at max potential.
Charles Jiles anything written in the multiverse is canon. That is why multiverse was created
Omniscient and omnipotent aren't the same thing
Boze Phanlo What a load of crap.Those writers are idiots. You can't just take a thing from the universe and then add all kinds of divine attributes to it. It doesn't work like that. Superman is such an impossible character.
Charles Jiles You seem not to understand my point. I didn't mention Goku because he's not as bad as Superman is, but Goku too has some really illogical aspects to his character. Yes, I like Goku more than I do Superman, but I'm not commenting here on who I think would win a fight (I think Superman would probably win to be honest). My comment was about Superman being an absurd, impossible character. What he is and what is attributed to him in terms of powers and skills is contradictory; more so than any other fictional character I know of.
Charles Jiles Well, ok, people know it's absurd and all, but I don't think most people really understand why though. You said Superman is omnipotent, omnipresent, I see omniscient being mentioned, and these words have meaning that can not be applied to a character like Superman. They just take divine attributes and throw them on a character that can never have those attributes. But the same can be said about Goku when calling him a "god". It somehow annoys me. Words have meanings, and the meanings of those words get thrown out the window when applied to any other than (here it comes) God. Anthropomorphism is rejected by sound reasoning, as this is exactly what Superman (and Goku to a lesser degree) represent: he's an impossible (an incorrect) concept of God basically. That's what it comes down to.
My problem here is that Flying a million times the speed of light and fighting at the speed of light are different. Goku has been fighting at speeds higher than Mach 1 speeds since Dragon Ball when he was just a boy and going by estimates can fight at thousands of times the speed of light. Now Superman may be able to fly faster but there can be no question that Goku can fight faster. And I am not just pulling this out of nowhere, I do remember reading somewhere that even Wonder Woman fought Superman he asked how she done something so quickly in a fight.
Ah I found it. Wonder Woman and Superman were sparring.
Wonder Woman said I am faster than you.
Superman said No you're not cant you see how fast I can fly.
Superman then went to Batman about it and Batman said this. "Is Usain Bolt faster than Bruce Lee because he can run faster in a straight line"
And Superman fans still just cant get IT right. If Goku is travelling to another dimension or across the entire Universe (Fukkatsu no F) then yes he has to concentrate. That is the sample they used in the original DBZ when he was travelling to Supreme Kai's planet. That is not only in another dimension but also on the far side of that dimension. He has no issue using it in a fight.... such as the one with Beerus. He also has a Ki shield that would stop him, well you know GETTING LOBOTOMISED. And I believe they used 2 different Superman's here. I think they were both New 52 and pre New 52 or something like that. But they were 2 completely different Superman characters but they rolled them into one just to try and show how OP he was.
***** The issue is that with as fast as he flies he has to be able to physical move his body as quick. If not he'd just hit everything in his path but he never does. So in order to fly that fast he must be able to react and dodge just as fast. Speed isn't the issue here though its endurance, Superman, in New 52, was bench pressing the earth 5 days straight and wasn't even tired. This means out of the sun Supes lasted five days with a planet on his back, nothing Goku has done matches this in fact he wears himself out many times
Jon Porter That isnt necessarily true. The same could be said of being able to run as fast as a Bugatti Veyron, just being able to run at those speeds doesn't mean all of your other techniques would be able to be used at that same speed. Batman himself said this quote "Is Usain Bolt faster than Bruce Lee because he can run faster in a straight line" And being able to Bench Press earth, fine ok. But I will keep using Bruce Lee here, do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger would be able to beat Bruce Lee just because he can bench press more than him. Again no. Having the strength is great but as shown with ASSJ that strength is useless if you can't even land a punch. The point is Goku has been training for fighting his entire life and has been training his reactions etc. Superman as far as I know has never trained in such a way.
*****
Superman has mastered a few forms of martial arts taught to him by batman, and believe it or not knows to chi forms as well
anyone realized that superman powers greatly increases in the sun whereas goku would burn to death in it.
What?
+Rabe Wyatt are you Wyatt Webb because it's me Wyatt I'm Adam
Freddy Krueger VS Superman would be a much better fight.
exactly so fighting in the sky would only give goku a disadvantage really doesn't make a difference whether they fight on the ground or air as long as that Sun is around.
Samurai Pizza CAT nah
I posted this the moment screwattack showed a preview to the fight: "There is no way they will ever let Goku win this battle. In the preview, it shows Ben standing there with this super annoyed look on his face and he says 'it'll finally be over for good after this one'. Chad says something like 'will it, though?' and Ben (annoyed) says 'YES.' and walks away like he's too good for this shit."
In Ben's mind, because of what research he's done, there is no other POSSIBLE outcome to this fight. He believes Superman has absolutely no limit (when he very clearly does, and even in the New 52 comics he has shown his very clear limitations when fighting) and can never lose.
Superman has simply been around for too long. In his 50+ years of comics, we have been shown very specific feats of power from him. He held up the Earth for three days straight with no access to sunlight, he took a blast that was X amount of supernovas in force, etc.
Goku does not have these same specific feats. We have to figure out his power through power scaling, by comparing Goku to the people we know he's stronger than or equal to. Example: how long it took Superman to destroy an Earth-sized planet, compared to how fast we've seen Golden Frieza do it, or Beerus do it. Beerus simply tapped his fingernail against a table and destroyed a planet. He was also so fast, he outran the explosion and subsequent destruction of the planet, appearing far away in the solar system almost instantly.
Until Akira Toriyama starts giving us exact numbers for how strong Goku is, how durable, how fast, etc. Screwattack will NEVER let Goku defeat Superman.
This is why we need more than one GOOD company that does battles like this. We need a second opinion. We need someone who isn't so stubborn. I knew from the moment I saw how Ben was acting in the preview that Superman would win.
Chad Small Yo not even beerus was out of there when the explosion sparked. Don't forget whis' speed who is faster than beerus. We can never get the answers to this because akira toriyama doesn't give us numbers on how fast a person is. All we get are power levels, and power levels are indeed bullshit.
drakon master Power levels have never been bullshit. Just because they don't measure up other's power levels with scouters anymore in the series , doesn't means they aren't strong. Calculating SSJGSSJ Goku's power level won't make him more or less strong. He will be as strong as he is even without any power level measuring. It's just that it was being a pain in the ass for Toriyama to keep a track for everyone in the series after Freeza saga. Cell and Buu would have been just as strong as they were meant to be even if you had their power levels measured up. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Superman doesn't have a power level either. Does that mean his power is also bullshit?
***** They are cuz if power levels weren't bullshit there would be no way goku would be able to beat broly even with everyones energy.
drakon master If power levels were bullshit from the start , then everyone's whose power levels were measured till the Freeza saga , Like Goku's Vegeta's Gohan's Piccolo's , their powers and strength would be fake too right ?
What I don't understand is Goku was tossing around Superman in ssg from but when he used has kamwhameha in ssgss from superman was not even affected
Apparently, Superman can extend his limits to whatever he chooses. One second he's being smacked around by Lex Luthor, the next, he one shots him. That doesn't excuse this bullshit, but still.
***** Kamehameha isn't the Spirit Bomb dude. -_____-
Cristian Rivera The fight is just something nice to show the viewers, it's not representative of what would actually happen.
superman places psychological limits on his own strength and releases them when necessary, its so he can live a "normal" life as a human, like if he doesnt restrain himself, he will kill someone if he hugs them or something lol
Cristian Rivera Its called intangibility. On Supes case he was vibrating their molecules into a new quantum frequency.
Super mans limits are literally whatever he wants...if he goes no holds barred he's untouchable...the only thing that limits him is him
Noel Crenshaw You mean Supermans limits are whatever the writer wants them to be..
endless013 Lol.. Superman is really powerful but not omnipotent not even nigh..
It's all about how prepped he is for the battle like the first match goku is obviously faster than super man so when super man absorbs radiation and just flew off from the fight to get to the sun goku is a brilliant analyzer and fighter he would've realized the sun power super man and would've stopped his ass dead in his tracks
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Superman does hold back in his fights but just imagine if he actually went full power!
Here is the story of Superman vs Goku. SUPERMAN HAS NO LIMITS, GOKU DOES. SUPERMAN WINS, THE END!
Gabriel Torres .Goku may have limits, but he can break those limits. Gorky will always be stronger than Superman.
Gabriel Torres you have it flipped flopped
Superman No Sold That Kahamehameha Wave Like He Was Broly Or For My WWE Fans John Cena.
Radius Jordan broly would of eat shit and plus the fight cinimatic is just for entertainment perposes
Jack of All Vamps wtf they didn't go and do research u can tell bc they didn't go over the power of super Goku's new farm there just always make dbz fighters loose in this shit super man is probably stronger but they didn't go over guku's new pawer wtf and the fighting was good but still they just threw goku under the bus fuck!!!
Judah Israel ok onw vagetawon his fight and lastly this was a remach so they dont need to explain the same shitagainexcept mention the new stuff witch ssg andssgss is just power bost
Radius Jordan #LOLSupermanwins
One does not simply WALK THROUGH A KAMEHAMEHA BLAST...
To be fair, Superman walks through lots of stuff in the cartoons and comics. ....I am not a Superman fan.
Jiren did
Superman is God tho xD
Unless he is superman
The Meme Keep Superman is not a good but Superman dc one million is
Superman could just one shot SSB Goku,but they made a longer fight just to avoid annoying the Dragon Ball fans even more!!!
"A nice guy" could also be a pun in english.
Freeza.
"An ice guy".
goku cant win, because superman is the most OP character ever.
Yea basically
cute~ saitama
RUclips MAN in comics nowadays supes can see peoples souls. How does that make sense?
He's meant to be the greatest superhero of all time, it only makes sense he's this strong.
Super man prime is highly over rsted
The first Kamehameha made him go flying the second at a power that seemed greater than the first did nothing that just doesn't make sense
The Video isn't real you know that right? The entire thing is done verbally and with evidence, a winner is decided, they then make the video and just make it interesting for people before explaining how they got their conclusions...
Kid Coheed Yeah. A lot of people think the actual DEATH BATTLE factors into the result. It doesn't. It's just made to be entertaining. As a SM fan more than a Goku fan, I can see why they're mad. It was a bit insulting to have superman stroll casually through Goku's full power Kamehameha and vaporize his brain, but, the result is still correct.
Seth Lunsford the actual death battles aren't meant to provide any information or vantage point over who would win. they are 100% for entertainment. but also, superman holds back in every fight. he doesn't go around 1 hitting everything, that is justice lord superman's demeanor. superman doesn't like killing, and he will do everything in his power to try to debilitate an opponent before he resorts to killing them. he tests his opponent's limits to see what they can handle first because he knows he could snap something's spine if he isn't careful enough. if superman and goku fought, superman would eventually understand goku's power. he would destroy the planet if he kept fighting. goku wasn't lying when he said he'd never stop. it was only then that superman would have understood that goku needed to be put down.
+MoistedRenegade well there not entertaining very well
I'm pretty sure it was just to give the finger to stubborn DBZ fanboys
You did not believe in Superman ? :( ....
Remember INFINITY before type anything.... 😂✌
Superman is better in every way.
Is that why they had to rewrite him dozens of times?
Tyrone actually touched on a very good point that I always bring up: Goku is a martial arts MASTER. He is a VASTLY superior technical fighter to Superman. Superman is very much more about brute power.
I also don't believe Superman could simply walk through Goku's kamehameha like that; it was a powerful image and statement of Superman's power, but that single kamehameha wave could destroy entire planets. It would at least scuff Superman's pants, like come on.
All of that aside, I do agree that Superman would whoop Goku's ass. I just don't think it would be THAT one-sided
+HollidayRespawn Well... I think I remember somewhere that the aura protecting superman, covers him AND his suit :/ But yeah it was meant to be a statement, and it was a strong one at that.
Stop being a fool, Death battle gave an example of superman surviving 50 supernovae in that very video. Do you realize how insignificant a planet destroying attack is compared to 50 fricking supernovae??? Btw goku has never demonstrated a kamehameha that could destroy planets. Let me put it this way, 50 supernovae can destroy an earth like planet 22222 billion times over!
HollidayRespawn When you are vastly faster than someone. Fighting skills mean next to nothing. Superman is also a trained martial artist trained in Kryptonian martial arts. He was also trained by both wonderwoman and batman. I didn't miss the point of your comment. You claimed that kamehameha should have hurt superman. But I have proved with evidence that it wouldn't leave a scratch.
Zoom Hunter
The point of my comment was not that the kamehameha should have hurt Superman. Try again lol.
And as to Superman's fighting style, I'll go off of what I've seen for years instead of what we are told that he never actually utilizes
of course he can goku took it down a notch so earth won't get harmed again if u watchd da cell saga u already saw wat happened wen vegeta used da final flash
Goku could NEVER defeat superman because the only weakness superman has "Kryptonite" Goku would never exploit.
Larry Czelusniak goku could beat him without krptonite.
@@Godoftheinternet. depends on which version
@@Axtreq it really doesn't. Goku beat superman in general.
It's pretty damn logical with Superman being able to walk through Goku's Kamehameha wave.
The Kamehameha wave is made of electricity, which in other words is plasma. The sun is made mostly of plasma.
You get the point?
Superman lives from the energy of the sun. Being attacked by a wave from the sun is literally nothing to him, it only would make him stronger if anything. Goku did not know this and as such, it ended up as his downfall in the end.
Although then again, there was no real chances for him to beat Superman. Goku can't read Superman's mind due to his Torquasm-Vo skills, to fight against people trying to control or READ his mind. He could not instant transmission him anywhere in this state. Especially not a red sun, since it would be his weakness.
And in the end, Goku always preferred a fair fight. He never wants help from others to beat up tough opponents. It just would not be like him to instant transmission Superman near a red sun or to a piece of Kryptonite.
If you go to Game Theorists page, search for the video about it. You'll see what I mean with the Kamehameha wave theory.
Screw Attack:
> Implies you can kill a god
> Implies stronger than Whis
> Implies Goku fights at a slower speed than light (which after faster than light is instantaneous, oh yeah Goku can do that)
> Implies Goku didn't defeat an opponet without limitations
> Implies Superman is a better hero than Goku (fights in cities, kills thousands of people, destroyes earth)
> Implies Superman is a jerk, walks in the dbz universe, steals the Dragon balls, to revive the earth (Selfish much)
> Kills goku without mercy (who isn't evil)
> Thinks they know stuff about Goku's possibly becoming a God.
> Mentions "Titan," but one of them ends up, dying. Titan < God?
> Forgets that Superman is very inconsistent. He's 50+ years older than Goku by the books.
Dc fans:
"SUCK IT KIDS"
DBZ fans:
"Whis can just kill Superman in his weakesr form, because time lord"
Me = Super Saiyan God (Edit) Butthurt
Brandon Thach wrong in so many ways you are as master yoda would say.
dbz gods can be killed as whis implies at the end of battle of gods.
whis is only 50 percent stronger then beerus as whis is a 15 beerus is a 10 so yes superman could kill whis seeing as he has fought stronger people.
goku is only faster than light instentanously when he uses instant transmisson but goku needs to concentrate to use it and superman being 1 millions times the speed of light goku won't have enough time to use it.
they imply that goku the better hero at the end of the video but you probably skipped that part because your mad.
also in deathbattle they basically share a universe it belongs to no one side. he revives the earth and saves everyone that is totally selfish saving mankind.
goku was trying to kill superman with that kamehamaha wave you would have killed goku to it's called self defence.
they kn oiw enough about the god form to say that goku would loose. he almost died to a lazer beam weaker then zarbon and can't even beat beerus. weak god form.
dbz gods are not like other gods. dbz gods can be killed by regular people. example beerus getting injured by vegeta and frieza hurting goku. so it maes sense to bring up a titan.
superman is very consistent that's why he has reboots to keep things in order. even iof goku had 50 pus manga's superman will alwaysn win.
dbz fanboy goku will win and i have no proof to back it. also whis can only go back in time for 3 minutes stop lying dbz fanboy.
dc fan brings up feats to back up there claim or any other fanbase besides dbz.
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Superman cannot beat Whis whom is constantly shown using magic. Akira Toriyama should just end this shit and come out and say God Ki is magic based. Magic can't be sensed just like how Majin Buu couldn't be sensed right after being released from the cocoon.
Soliden1000 He probably can actually, because before Black Adam fought Shazam he fought Superman a lot and Black Adams attacks are literally solely magic attacks and Superman was perfectly fine in the sense that he could keep up and hold his own.
On the speed part.. dupes is a snail compared to goku.. goku actually fights at light speed. Supes flies really fast to a destination. Instant transmission is just goku thinking of a place he wants to be. Why would u think it would be impossible for goku to think himself into different places during a battle? Dupes is no match at all when it comes to speed. Goku has extended thoughts while surpassing light speed in battles. Can supes think that fast? I think not.. very biased outcome in this battle
David D Supes was able to punch the flash and seeming as how the punch would have to keep up with flash and the flash moves faster than light i think it's safe to say that supes can fight faster than the speed of light
superman shouldn't be kicking like a martial artist. he isn't. he is just strong like hell.
He lifted something of infinite weight get over it goku lost
Please read the stats before talking, supes knows multiple martial arts, sound op? That's superman
DBGaming regardless he is strong not a martial artist. said noting about him winning. just weird all the kids like where he got it from. does it come natural? like mike tyson fighting like bruce lee like wth. he is strong ok but please he isn't a martial artist.
techniquerules i honestly don't care. superman would likely win. but lets not have superman throwing kicks like jackie chan. that he is not
Alain Gervais That's a bit of a misconception. Superman actually is familiar with martial arts; he's used both Kryptonian Martial arts and has picked up some stuff from Wonder Woman and Batman.
maybe goku can't win but superman can't walk through a kamehameha wave.
they are raging and I'm loving it
They mixed the powers of multiple versions of superman, that was the only part i found gay
New 52 superman is super nerfed, but they fixed it by crossinf versions :/ i mean 52 superman can bleed now lol
How is it gay
Most of the superman versions have the same powers
I hated watching super man watch into a ssgss Kamehameha like it was just water.... And that Goku was out to not care about the world.
***** Absolutely 110% wrong.
I'm going to say one thing. When Goku God (Not SS Blue) fought Beerus, they were told that if their fight were to continue, they would destroy the universe. Now Goku SS Blue is at least 10 times stronger than SS God (Which is now his base form power level) So this means that if Goku were to fight full strength as SS Blue, He could easily take out superman who can't even destroy a galaxy. Another thing, Goku can take out people that use 4th dimension attacks like hit and he wasn't even using Kio Ken when they last fought. So I'm going to say this once...Superman wouldn't even be a challenge for the new Base Form Goku after his battle with Hit.
DabGod superman lifted the book of infinite pages and broke the boundaries of infinity www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&hl=en-gb&biw=1024&bih=666&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=bDtNWtH9EuXAgAaE4bqgDA&q=superman+breaks+the+boundaries+of+infinity&oq=superman+breaks+the+boundaries+of+infinity&gs_l=mobile-gws-img.3...21728225.21741694.0.21742019.46.37.1.8.8.0.244.4365.0j26j3.30.0....0...1c.1.64.mobile-gws-img..7.24.2701.0..0j0i67k1j0i24k1j30i10k1.144.qw9mpiSpAss#imgrc=Dh5l6Fl98AbDjM:
I'm going to say one thing too, read up on supermans achievements and feats of strength because you're making yourself look like a fool.
I know most, if not all, of superman's feats. I can say with 100% certainty, the only superman Goku cannot beat, is Post-Crisis. For every other superman, Goku will have to go a pure max of SSJ3.
Neon Galaxy Entertainment no the book isn't infinite it's just every single book ever written
@@yeetsmcgee5446 absolutely every superman is an expert in torquasm rao and torquasm vao, this is an important information because these martial arts allow superman to tap into the power of different iterations of himself from different universe's and continuities
Anybody else notice the fact that earlier during this fight, Supes got knocked back and somehow at 13:10 he just walks through it.
Deathbattle...they used the same Equations they made up from the first Goku vs. Superman. Their solutions were wrong, Goku is way faster and stronger than they say he is. As well, Superman...they messed up a bit on him as well. Deathbattle should've waited a while so we know how strong SSG and SSGSS is, we don't have a exact multiplier or estimate for the two transformations. They just pulled SSG and SSGSS strength out of their ass, wait until Dragon Ball Super shows the true strength of the transformations. Not being butthurt, just saying they messed up on the deathbattle...again. Though, we all knew Superman was going to win anyways since he's a Mary-Sue.
Blazingnyancat i agree but you know limit vs no limits
Actually I think goku and superman both have no limits but I think the difference is goku works hard for his power while supes just has it and brings it out when needed.
Blazingnyancat You can times 1 by 25 and then times that number by 25 as many times as you want but it will never become Infinity.Simple fact.
Noah Sera is new 52 supes capable of casually blowing up a planet with his fingernail like beerus who goku exchanged fists with
Banzai Spirit except can get stronger if he goes into the sun
must.......... get........... that............. shirt!!!
Melku44 lol
what i dont get is that batman beat superman but goku cant yeah right total sense good job skrewattack
Donald Da Boss By Screwattack's logic, Batman must be able to beat Goku as well right? oh wait....Spiderman killed Batman! yet Batman beat Superman lol
This shit is just like Strider Hiryu beating Ryu Hayabusa despite the fact people know Hayabusa is immortal lol
ryu is immortal im pretty sure he is human but yeah im not familiar with capcom
He's not actually human due to his dragon lineage, and the start of Ninja Gaiden 2004 he was cut in half at the start of the game only to end up revived 3 weeks later lol
what ryu are youtalking about im confused
Ryu Hayabusa (dead or alive & ninja gaiden) just type his name into youtube and you'll know.
So in how many punches superman can destroy a universe?
So Superman is a limitless Op BS... man talk about poor writing.
Well if they did goku vs new 52 superman goku would win easy because that superman (the new superman) is still learning how to use his powers he can't even fly right now.
TurtleOver Lord Poor compared to today's standards. Superman came out during a time in America where people needed to believe in something and aspire to greatness. If the "good"characters of today had came out during that time in comic books, they likely wouldn't have done as well. Today's writers just keep the core of Superman's character with modern day plot elements. He is the most known comic book character in history. Comic books exist in popularity because of him.
Shady Doorags No Superman during his early years (First comics), he was better written, he wasn't so Op and there was better story development. Over the years a bunch of different writers made Superman so powerful it was ridiculous.
TurtleOver Lord Superman was always written to be more powerful than everyone else and an upstanding guy. Back then, it was just being super strong. Today, because of how DC works, its having ALL the powers.
Shady Doorags You should read Alan Moore's piece on why super heroes are a fucking cancer to modern fiction.
people who say superman has limits are just mad and dont want to accept the fact that superman is better at almost everything goku does i like dragonball z but lets be honest superman is to OP for even the saitama a new superhero that everyone says is unbetable facts.
actually the creator of DBZ said that sayins have no limits. they keep getting stronger every battle and they brake every stage possible and they create new ones so i think Goku should have won
And they said that in the show!
Man Tyrone. With the turtle hermit shirt, that wooden bead necklace(wish I knew what it was called), and those arms.....where's that anime Bandai?
Superman personality = a rock. And Goku personality rocks. Superman strength = to krillin.
ههههههههههههههههههههههههههههه butthurt dbz fanboy
goku has been written by the original creator all these years and superman isnt. so if you talk about the originally superman creator then he is no match.
I want to see Superman vs Goku Black now. That or Hit.
yea me to
Right 😂
goku black would actually come close to beating superman
what about superman vs zamatsu after all zamatsu is imortal!
Gage Borchert wait zamatsu is immortal
That doesn't matter who is more powerful . I give my vote to superman because he is more intelligent.
And superman is most intelligent being in earth
I have checked the list of superheroes that are most intelligent and in this list there is superman . And at no place there is Goku
Screwattack here are wrong, they say superman has no limits but he has, they seem to not read dc comics enough........
Dude superman doesn't have limits, his strength and speed is like limitless, he only has weakness (kryptonite).
In the episode, they said the characters were fighting at their maximum potential, Superman doesnt have a maximum potential.
+DinamicCrusher's ThunderStrikes
I read all the comics of DC till now along with Marvel, and there are so many stronger characters and faster, it's not like I'm going to say one by one but he is nowhere near limitless, he is fifth dimensional, however that doesn't make him limitless..... he even says it himself.....
+ZeezGaming
look at my reply to DinamicCrusher...
+Lane Alder go to DC readers, and I read all the comics and still reading, and screwattck is just biased, go to comics amino, and go to DC statements, so you can believe.....
i couldn't agree more with Tyrone about screwattack
as soon as they kept using non canon superman i knew the ending... plus they didn't even add any feats from BOG or FNF... oh well.
Every thing in the dc continuity is Canon because of the convergence story arc
Youngster Joey
wrong it just makes the multiverse exist.... new 52 is still OUR superman in OUR universe. the other supermen were from different universes... they are NOT the same supermen....
JTB Pred Exactly. If they stayed true to 52 superman he would have lossed.
***** they never said they were just using new 52, they were just using the clothes
Youngster Joey Yeah I didn't say they did i said if.
Christ, now Ultra Instinct is going to rekindle this.
I feel if a hero or villian has no limits then what is the point of them fighting, i like goku more than superman, for me he is a more developed character than superman. This fight ruined screwattack for me i feel they could have ended it better than the cheap way they did it and if they don't like anime they should just stick to other genres, don't get me wrong i thought superman would win just not so easily.
vizarack Superman is weaksauce when compared to charcters above him. While he has no limits it takes time for him to get stronger.
Malcolm Neill the superman that screwattack had in the video is just playing with goku because he is apparently in his limitless god self. Superman is not weak in his universe he can beat everyone in it just like goku can in his but goku got limits put on him were as superman had no limits. There was no battle here just screwattack put to two fingers up to anyone who wanted to see a true fight not a joke like what we all got.
dbzsongoku1 goku can beat everyone in his universe it doesn't matter how strong whiss and his master are because he will eventually surpass them and beat them.
dbzsongoku1 whis' master? Whis doesn't have a master
vizarack Another ignorant person...well for your information, Boomstick *hates* Superman, and they both love DBZ.
But it's not even an opinion anymore: Superman wins.
I have no idea why people are saying goku would win. Doesn't matter how many saiyans goku gets if superman is practically invincible. I do think goku is a better developed character but it's time to face the facts people.
Yeah, Goku may well be a better character, but Superman is more powerful.
+Man Of Steel ik that
People like what they think..., and they think GOKU IS AWESOME!!!!!!
This battle isn't even fair!
SUPERMAN IS DUMP!!!!! Like if you agree 🤔🤔🤔🤔
im a fan of both equal way, some times i root for superman, sometimes i root for goku, but seriously i would say that technically goku should win...
+Steven Fly oh and btw, Saitama beat boths :D
+Steven Fly Saitama has never shown anything even relatively on par with the level either of these two are at casually.
but the author said he can 1punch half universe :D
+Steven Fly I know your probably joking, but author statements can't be equated to canonical feats.
Plus he wouldn't get off a single punch on either of these two, they would killed him in a nanosecond at dozens of times the speed of light.
why not ? basically the authors decide the potential of a character, if we are gonna put superman vs goku and make it win, becouse of unfairness, than my imaginary character is stronger than superman, there u go :)
Superman is known for manny thing but one of most popular is he always hold back always even when world will be destroyed he dont show us his true power.
I'm tired of trolls using the "Batman can beat Superman" argument. Do you not realize that Batman has kryptonite, given by Superman himself by the way, in case Superman ever went evil? There is no way anyone can beat Superman unless they are magical in power, or they use kryptonite. That is why Lex Luthor has a ton of Kryptonite in his posession. That is why Batman uses it in Batman vs. Superman. That is why Metallo can beat Superman (He has a kryptonite core) Goku fights enemies at their max potential, while he is at his max as well. Using kryptonite and instant transmission to teleport to a random area in space is cowardly. That is not what Goku is about. Besides, even if Goku were to use Instant transmission, Superman has the capability to travel over x1 million the speed of FUCKING LIGHT! He has super hearing that could hear Goku over the span of half of the galaxy! This is a fight! Goku would not run away EVER! Forgot to add that Wonder Woman and even Zatanna can beat Superman. (They are magical in power.) There are a ton of DC characters that can stand up to Superman bcause they are magical in power (Dr. Fate and Raven other ones.) or they use kryptonite, which brings Superman down to human level.
Dastan Goku ignores about what can deafeat superman and there are more ways to beat superman
Here's the thing. Superman is a wall. Naturally, you want to break that wall. When you do though, there is another wall behind it, and another, and another, and another. There is an infinite number of walls behind walls. You will be breaking infinite walls for eternity. It doesn't matter how strong Goku gets, Superman can match him, and become even stronger than that. Actually, that is what the entire Dragonball series is about. Climbing walls. Superman has only lost when: He didn't understand his powers completely, kryptonite, fighting a supernatural opponent, or fighting someone with a supernatural or kryptonite device. Goku cannot keep his most powerful form forever. Eventually, Goku will run out of energy, as is the case with many fights in the Dragonball universe. (Majin Buu for example. They had to actually use the Dragonballs to restore Goku's energy to use the Spirit Bomb on Buu to defeat him.) Superman does not run out of energy at all. He can keep his same strength forever. That is why he is called Superman, and that is why he wins this fight. Batman knows it, and the entire JLA knows that Superman cannot be beat unless you have his only weaknesses.
Dastan Yes we know that superman will probably always beat goku. Goku can get all strong as he wants, he won't ever reach Superman Prime's power and abilities. But Discard Goku vs Superman, I only meant that superman can be defeated by more things than only being weakened by kriptonite. Like there is also the red sun that weakens him and if he stumbles across a more powerfull opponent than him.
That's supermans speed flying in a straight line watch Quammanslands video on it he goes more in depth but here's the summary superman is quick on his linear speed but fighting speed he is slower than Wonder Woman and goku completely dominates him in fighting speed and can catch him with instant transmission on linear movements
My other comment came out wrong, I meant to say that Superman has *No limits !!!* Superman is the First ever superhero the base character that started it all, Nobody can surpass him Because the writers will not allow it and rightfully soo.
....Hulk has limits there is a guy on RUclips where he gets so Mad that he passes out !! The same would happen to the hulk, You *can Not* stay mad forever it's impossible !!!
.......Superman can absorb limitless amounts of sunlight.... He has absorb enough sunlight to destroy the planet. Superman is like a giant sponge that soak up all sunlight.
I officially hate screw attack for that shit. That was just..wow utter bullshit I'm not a diehard dbz fan but I smell utter bullshit from that. I mean something like a Kamehameha wave that someone as weak as ROSHI can destroy the MOON with? Now just think about the power difference there. Goku could easily whipe out the whole solar system with a Kamehameha if you think about it power wise and super man just WALKED through it? His CLOTHS WEREN'T EVEN FUCKING DAMAGED. I'm just fucking pissed at this bullshit right here but goku will get more powerful so just wait
Dinzel Walker-Smith I agree, and I think that goku could have destroyed more than a galaxy with that wave.
A FULLY powered kamehameha at ssj god ss would kill (or if not) gravely damage normal superman. I don't think superman could do that and walk trough it. The only way for superman do walk trough that is if he's Superman Prime
What is the song that plays when Goku goes Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan? Also what does SGC stand for?
Screw attack piss me off so much. Superman had more trouble fighting regular super sayain goku then both his god forms this bullshit. Even if superman and goku are even in strength it's no way superman can keep up with goku's fighting and movement's overall fuck screw attack we gonna bring some noise too yall doorstep
I feel you 😭
Brandon Phillips You do realize they are never to do another Superman vs Goku right? They are moving on to different death battles and are laying this one to rest.
Brandon Phillips What is the deal with you people? i swear to god it's like you are so single minded in your way of thinking that relevant things go over your head.
1. THE FIGHTS ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT. The way they are choreographed, what happens during them, everything about it is for entertainment. That's why Goku used every skill he had developed during the first battle, even the power pole that people so adamantly questioned. Fact of the matter is,
The Dragon throw, Dragon fist, power pole are useless in the fight, they are all too weak to do anything. They were added for completeness of portrayal purposes too.
Same reason with Superman's Freeze breath, which is a technique too weak to bother Goku anyways.
2. SINCE THE FIGHT CHOREOGRAPHY IS IRRELEVANT, your statement loses all credibility. How Superman was CHOREOGRAPHED to appear in the last battle is less relevant to the outcome than how much butter these character like on their toast. A straight up comparison of feats shows that Superman has survived power beyond anything Goku has ever done, taking hits that Goku has never taken, dished out hits and feats of strength and speed that make Dragonball look like a group of Miss Daisys. Seriously, what is so hard to grasp that Goku cannot do a quarter of the things Superman has done. Like I just don't get it.
Why can't people be objective about shit? I love anime and manga more than comics by a mile. Comics are just too inaccessible to me. But I don't let my love of anything influence objective discussions. Goku loses to Supes. 9/10. The only time Goku wins is against the very weakest of the weakest versions of Supes, such as in his first run when his feats were lifting cars, and moving faster than bullets, and maybe even the DCAU version, even though that version i have heard has a light speed feat so who knows.
Anyways, just look at the evidence
If goku was men to break limits and superman has no limits so to me I would think goku would even surpass that limit
THE_Hyperbeam Goku can't surpass that limit because there isn't a limit to surpass. That's like saying if Goku went up against someone who could lift infinity pounds, Goku would surpass that and lift more than infinity which isn't possible.
THE_Hyperbeam that is stupid... like... a lot
GameNexus And let's not forget that if Goku did somehow overcome that limit, then he would have reached his goal and would lose the meaning of what he stands for: Overcoming odds. Since he is at the top then he would have nothing to do.
eat
GameNexus Frieza many many years ago: "MY POWER IS LIMITLESS" some minutes later: "AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! RIP"
obviously he is not limitless if doomsday killed him
We don't talk about that dreadful movie
+Shy Wolf It happened in the comics too. Though I agree batman v superman was terrible
doomsday doesn't get stronger or weaker he stays the same and they said that his powers are unlimited doesn't that mean when he was fighting doomsday he was going all out so he does have limits
+Crimson Ichor
That's not how it works
20:00
Watch that section, and come back.
Superman did not use his full power, he was holding back.
If Superman beats Goku, then how th freak can Batman beat Superman.
They even said Supermans power is limitless, sigh.
+Kewl bro Cause plot
BECAUSE HE"S BATMANNNN!!!!
Because HE"S BATMANNNN!!!!
not even that, Batman has a contingency plan against the whole justice league, exploiting their weaknesses, wonder woman's determination to keep fighting, flashes speed, superman's need to help the innocent, green lanterns guilt to rob him of his willpower, Martian Manhunter's weakness to fire.
superman got killed by batman ups spoiler sorry everyone
+Ivonne Miranda I watched the movie superman got killed by doomsday not batman.
watch the very ending before getting mad and clicking off you will understand why superman won
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I agree, the fights should be evenly matched (otherwise what's the point of even arguing which is which). But this IS a rematch, the first they've done, and the first fight was very very long. I'm sure it was just so they could put out there and have more time to tell the fans why.