STRONGEST DPS in Wuthering Waves | Jinhsi CN Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @mordsven
    @mordsven 3 месяца назад +111

    Given that jinhsi has jue's power, the damage is reasonable lmao...

    • @GameOn-sz4do
      @GameOn-sz4do 3 месяца назад +9

      ikr, if she's equal or gets out damaged by upcoming relatively normal characters anytime soon like changli I'll be very disappointed

    • @Derael
      @Derael 3 месяца назад +5

      I mean, you can kick Jue's ass with any 4* solo, so that's not a very high bar.

    • @luckywizard_
      @luckywizard_ 3 месяца назад +12

      I agree, Jinshi being the archon equivalent in this game justifies her powercreeping other characters.
      If Changli and other future characters powercreep characters the same way Jinshi did to Jiyan in every aspect then I think it'll become a huge problem.

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 3 месяца назад

      Jinhsi should be thanking rover, the dragon is his/her pet, and Jue saved her life

    • @TacticalDimples
      @TacticalDimples 3 месяца назад +2

      @@DeraelJue is holding back…

  • @chaosgamer7348
    @chaosgamer7348 3 месяца назад +107

    Hearing E1 E2 E3 is f’n me up as a HSR player 😂😂😂

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 3 месяца назад +6

      oh lol, its all same thing, doesn't bother me if he calls it C1 and up, E and up, S and up
      oh you meant her skill rotation, meh most free to play don't get copies in HSR so meh

    • @YungNah-t8f
      @YungNah-t8f 3 месяца назад +7

      @@kyotheman69 meh take brother your brain must have very poor connections if you didn’t immediately think about Eidolons when he was saying E1 E2 E3 and E4 meh smooth brain meh

  • @yashaswin_005
    @yashaswin_005 3 месяца назад +120

    Jinshi soo busted its crazy

    • @lukeaquino7141
      @lukeaquino7141 3 месяца назад +37

      Yeah man, I busted so much.

    • @RenakoAmaori
      @RenakoAmaori 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@lukeaquino7141🤨📸

    • @ucngominh3621
      @ucngominh3621 3 месяца назад +4

      "the powercreep is crazy" there fixed it for you

    • @ktstorms5285
      @ktstorms5285 3 месяца назад +11

      @@ucngominh3621 no? it doesnt make the other characters weak + you can easily clear everything with havoc rover. One shot with the best char = powercreep

    • @angelduarte4202
      @angelduarte4202 3 месяца назад +2

      @@ktstorms5285yeah lol I mean lore wise she’s in the game she’s kinda meant to be busted

  • @muggalul
    @muggalul 3 месяца назад +21

    i think people are forgetting that jinhsi i the equivalent to an archon so id imagine she'd be pretty strong

  • @Kurokawa_Mitsuki
    @Kurokawa_Mitsuki 3 месяца назад +11

    For players who don't know or confused as a HSR player, the copies in WuWa are actually called "Resonance Chain" like Pokke said in the video (was "Sequence" before). As for the weapon it's just Rank like it's implied in the weapon description.
    So we could actually translate it this way:
    RC0, RC1, RC2, RC3, RC4, RC5, RC6 or Resonance Chain 1, etc.
    R1, R2, R3, R4, R5 or Rank 1, etc.
    RC0R0 is 1 copy and no signature weapon (and you know the rest)
    You can also just go C0R0 like Genshin if you want. R0R0 is kinda awkward but can be also used.
    Edit: Changed because of a helpfull comment saying it was changed by the devs to avoid confusion.
    You can use E0S0 if you're already acquainted to HSR's way of interpretation.

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw 3 месяца назад +1

      They already return to using Resonance Chain in the description. I remember it being Sequence before this. I checked a Waveband after pulling for Jinshi. So yeah, even Kuro translators are indecisive between Resonance Chain or Sequence.

    • @Kurokawa_Mitsuki
      @Kurokawa_Mitsuki 3 месяца назад

      @@justjuniorjaw I see. Might need to change my comment. Thanks for the heads up. I didn't know they changed it.

  • @kevingraham4736
    @kevingraham4736 3 месяца назад +11

    s6 wasnt a nerf. they moved it to the base kit to make S0 viable. s6 jinhsi does roughly the same damage now as it did before the change. also mortefi sucks for her. just use Yuanwu or Yinlin. use Mortefi in a different team

    • @manofthepeople2165
      @manofthepeople2165 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, if u have Jiyan, Mort is married to Jiyan.
      Mort can work at S4, but any less is not worth running with Jinhsi.
      Yuanwu is the best F2P option and the easiest team to play. Yinlin in theory has a higher ceiling but requires more strict rotations.

    • @IndividuumNot
      @IndividuumNot 2 месяца назад

      @@manofthepeople2165 agreed. mortefi doesnt suck for him. for example ive got s6 mortefi and yinlin is married to my calcharo team. so iam running jinhsi with mortefi and its good enough to full clear tower. i could also do it with yuanwu, sure, but i prefer the rotation with mortefi.

  • @zinogrex
    @zinogrex 3 месяца назад +49

    I'm sure Kuro will release a 5 star support tailored for Jiyan to sell to people who pulled him. Jiyan is also really strong in AoE content.
    However, what matters most is Jhinsi' animation power creep. Lil general got nothing on a real dragon.

    • @AqilaRarasati-yq9lx
      @AqilaRarasati-yq9lx 3 месяца назад

      Mortefi powercreep incoming 😂

    • @Exilitate
      @Exilitate 3 месяца назад +5

      Just like another coord support for Jinhsi that doesn't suck ?

    • @Tiasung
      @Tiasung 3 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, Jinhsi's animations are insane.

    • @ExpressoPie
      @ExpressoPie 3 месяца назад +5

      @@Exilitateand a healer/buffer that isn’t Spectro 😭

    • @mikelshuo9071
      @mikelshuo9071 3 месяца назад

      If you guys are STILL waiting for Jinshi to get both a buffer that isn't spectro and a coordinated attacker with resonance skill deepen, I guarantee you there's already gonna be another limited banner DPS that outclasses her by a mile so this discussion is meaningless.

  • @jerrychen3428
    @jerrychen3428 3 месяца назад +62

    1 data point does not make a trend - at least not yet. If every subsequent character is around 10% better than the previous, that would absolutely spiral out of control very quickly. That said, a few more things to consider:
    1. As has mentioned, the comparison assumes Yinlin vs Mortefi as the subdps. This can work both ways - while Yinlin does do more damage than Mortefi, her outro also doesn't benefit Jinhsi nearly as much. If we used Mortefi for both characters, the damage gap would close. That said, a future character that works better with Jinhsi can also push her over the edge.
    2. Jiyan is just way too unga bunga compared to literally anyone else in the game. I would argue that being that braindead in execution should come with some DPS penalties over other DPS.
    3. While Jinhsi does have decent AoE capabilities, it also is still not quite matching to Jiyan's unparalleled grouping. Again, in my opinion this utility should come at a penalty to Jiyan's maximum theoretical DPS
    4. At the end of the day, there's so much more that goes into the output for this game than just character sheet DPS. That 10% damage can easily be made up for by bad/good Echo Substat rolls, a missed parry, extended rotation due to not enough energy on supports, etc. Unless the game is requiring you to min-max your DPS to meet the DPS checks, I don't think a 10% damage delta, especially considering the other points above, is a big deal.

    • @Accountthatexists
      @Accountthatexists 3 месяца назад +11

      nice indepth comment instead "ur wrong becuz"

    • @raweltz
      @raweltz 3 месяца назад +1

      holy essay

    • @templeknights
      @templeknights 3 месяца назад +5

      Jinyan simps trying to justify him so hard right now it's crazy

    • @forcodingg1287
      @forcodingg1287 3 месяца назад +14

      Tbf, Jiyan already got his own support who work perfectly with Him. Jinhsi does not has that one Yet like what you said, if we got somebody like Taoqi but does coord atk Jinhsi celling will be Higher. So imo, compared Yinlin and mortefi is pretty fair as long as they have same investment for example if yinlin have stringmaster give mortefi s6 and the standard 5 star weapon. And compared Jinhsi+mortefi vs jiyan+mortefi is not really that fair to me
      Secondly, Even know Jiyan have the grouping ability. Jinhsi has one ability that i personally really underrated in West community. for context CN community really see this value so i will copy what they said : "When fighting a boss, Jinhsi mechanics are better than Jiyan. The more the boss likes to run around and fly around, the more obvious this experience gap will be"
      Basically the point is that A lot of Jinhsi dmg coming from that Nuke Skill and Liberation. Unlike Jiyan who is linear dmg so when boss run when he is in that Ult window a lot of dmg will be wasted, Also Jinhsi fly is really good in some scenario like that Monkey boss if you know
      With that being said, i agree with your point on that Data and Calcs is not everything in this Game.
      The one thing that we can agree, Jinhsi 100% powecreep jiyan animation Lol

    • @Mugetsu192
      @Mugetsu192 3 месяца назад

      ​@@forcodingg1287doesnt mean he wont get a better support in the future..

  • @pauljoseph3081
    @pauljoseph3081 3 месяца назад +17

    I'm not worried about power creeping that much, you can still beat the game with standard 5* characters.
    To me, it's more on play style and aesthetics. That's why I'm pulling for Changli 💦

  • @QWERTY-_-WASD
    @QWERTY-_-WASD 3 месяца назад +497

    Fun fact: clicking or tapping this comment twice will like it

    • @aowawa
      @aowawa 3 месяца назад +15

      thats actually really cool i had no idea

    • @charless7797
      @charless7797 3 месяца назад +36

      And clicking it 3 times will open the replies section

    • @Kevin-rv8br
      @Kevin-rv8br 3 месяца назад +9

      Holy shit
      Like genuinly

    • @penguins0301
      @penguins0301 3 месяца назад +3

      Tap one for reply, tap twice for like

    • @Ikaretayaroudaze
      @Ikaretayaroudaze 3 месяца назад +4

      How bout i double tap the like button

  • @Gration_
    @Gration_ 3 месяца назад +5

    People really trying to hype up AoE content when:
    1.) Endgame tower isn't AoE at all and "AoE content" at this point is just overworld farming pretty much.
    2.) Jinhsi does pretty decent grouping herself in situations like this, as every dragon groups, just like Jiyan.
    3.) Mobs would literally have to spawn in the 4 corners of a map for this to be an actual problem, not semi grouped as they usually do.
    This is one of the stupidest points to try and bring up, honestly. She's killing all of these mobs with one of her AoEs and coordinated attacks flying around, anyway.

    • @4rchim
      @4rchim 3 месяца назад

      I mean if they're not range they'll eventually form that semi group even if they're spread. Her AoE is okay it's just not overly huge, like brainded huge xD

  • @GameOn-sz4do
    @GameOn-sz4do 3 месяца назад +21

    broo jinhsi is the freaking sentinel's resonator, she's supposed to be really strong and she has the sentinel's power, if she didn't out damage even upcoming characters I'd be very disappointed

    • @tidus9942
      @tidus9942 3 месяца назад +6

      I hope she just stays a step above others. I really like pulling lore wise strong characters. I do like how we are already told though that the Rover is the sentinels master. Its funney because the MC is actually really good in this game. Do not see me needing to get the Havoc power creep when they come.

    • @GameOn-sz4do
      @GameOn-sz4do 3 месяца назад

      @@tidus9942 yeh i hope not, well atleast we know that rover isn't yet as powerful as he's supposed to be, he'll need to get his memories and power back, also i think jué implied that rover is the one who gave him his time power

  • @aidilhakimi8425
    @aidilhakimi8425 3 месяца назад +3

    Jinhsi RC are very relatable to her title as a magistrate and jue's power LOL how funny

  • @emperman
    @emperman 3 месяца назад +4

    Also Jinhsi air basics have grouping potential (kinda like jiyan ulti but much less effective) and her skill 1 and 3 can be used for positioning.

  • @someonesomewhere8658
    @someonesomewhere8658 3 месяца назад +12

    Didn't think I'd be breaking 100k damage at lv 70. Thank you Jinhsi my queen

    • @ludicolo1106
      @ludicolo1106 3 месяца назад +6

      While my jiyan lv 70 can deal 50k damage + 8k dmg each hit in ulti form.
      Upgrade skill lv. 1 , RC 1 , R1 jiyan.
      The damage gap isnt that much its only 10% , around 10k dmg higher than jiyan damage
      90k vs 100k damage , with their respective pros and cons in both unit

    • @tactician3023
      @tactician3023 3 месяца назад +8

      @@ludicolo1106bro my guys so buthurt he had to go out of his way to flex his jiyans numbers

    • @esou.
      @esou. 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@ludicolo1106 this honestly sounds like cope

    • @Radiant450
      @Radiant450 3 месяца назад

      Man I cannot help but physically cringe whenever I read “my queen” whether ironically or unironically. I just imagine the biggest redditor being behind that 💀

    • @tactician3023
      @tactician3023 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Radiant450 do you realise what game your playing ?

  • @dennisvogel5982
    @dennisvogel5982 3 месяца назад +2

    in generel jinshi has a more complex playstyle than other dps and i think that warrants a little bit more damage. Also her best playstyle forces you tu use specific supports that deal coordinated attacks - at the moment its just a thing that these are usually very strong by themself so you do not hurt your teamcomp as much, but there might be some crazy sub dps or healer in the future you have to leave out just to buff you jinshi. Also lorewise she is probably the most powerfull character we have seen so far, so that would have also been bad if she was not good. I think the best thing that she does is that she is the first real skill damage char, and the intro/outro cheating can be really strong in the future

  • @jocelreloncillo8093
    @jocelreloncillo8093 3 месяца назад +3

    nice vid explaining the kit and all. staying strong for mommy changli 💓🔥

  • @RinrinFran
    @RinrinFran 3 месяца назад +34

    The first archon in WuWa!!!

    • @think1965
      @think1965 3 месяца назад +8

      More like a emanator since she isnt particularly god just the chosen one of a sentinel

    • @0omatthewo0
      @0omatthewo0 3 месяца назад +11

      @@think1965 no actually more like Archon. all archon take power from the primodial dragon and put it in gnosis

    • @bacon_208
      @bacon_208 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@think1965
      Genshin's archons are chosen by Celestia and are closer to seats of power, not really god-like in the traditional sense. If we're talking scaling, every HSR emanator we've seen are insurmountably more powerful than any archon in Genshin (Acheron being a high-end example who is most likely dwarf-star/star level). That being said, emanators aren't a representation of power unlike Wuwa and Genshin
      so no, Archons would be the better comparison

    • @ashrafhakim379
      @ashrafhakim379 3 месяца назад

      ​@@think1965jue = sovereign dragon
      Magistrate = archon

    • @XeosYT
      @XeosYT 3 месяца назад

      @@ashrafhakim379 so what is our mc then? oops can't spoil the milk lol

  • @steffie3148
    @steffie3148 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for the Guide! My goal is collect all the magistrates/Sentinel’s Resonators

  • @kingcopium9143
    @kingcopium9143 3 месяца назад +33

    We got folks talking about HSR powercreep when Wuwa powercreeping in its 2nd patch. We going the PGR route with this one🗣

    • @朱俊曉-z8t
      @朱俊曉-z8t 3 месяца назад +7

      the animation powercreep is INSANE. there isn't actually dmg powercreep though with jiyan still being a close 2nd best dps

    • @mikelshuo9071
      @mikelshuo9071 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@user-we3sc6uv4g the spreadsheet showing a 10% dps difference at s0 is fake news too. Why is the mortefi at s0 when you can easily s6 him to make up and surpass the dps difference of yinlin? makes no sense.

    • @mikewilson3346
      @mikewilson3346 3 месяца назад +12

      @@mikelshuo9071 also lets be real right, 4* mortefi vs 5* yinlin, I think people would be more upset if the 5* was doing less damage than the 4* team. Also, Jinhsi is basically the Archon of Jinzhou (China) and we know what happened when the Archon of Lingyue (China) was weak in Genshin.

    • @mikelshuo9071
      @mikelshuo9071 3 месяца назад +2

      ​​​@@mikewilson3346it's very clear she does more damage with more sequences over jiyan but at s0? come on. 10% dps diff when if you literally math it out it's because of c0 mortefi vs yinlin and c6 mortefi clears this difference. also also, this sheet does not even say what weapons they are using. this better not be yinlin with sig and mortefi has 4*. Another thing this sheet fails to show is how much jinshi is critting. if she low rolls crits she easily loses 10% dps. where are the substats and screenshots? every time I see toa clears between these two the difference is the same, and that is my experience as well raising both to max with sigs. so there's something wrong. it's just a Mickey mouse spreadsheet.

    • @AliceLycoris
      @AliceLycoris 3 месяца назад

      @@mikewilson3346 I'm pretty sure the actual country is Huonglong, Jinzhou is just a province or a state

  • @SignOne
    @SignOne 3 месяца назад +11

    yuanwu with the healing set and verina with the ER set is completely busted for jinshi. just crazy outro spam and insane synergy team. the only problem in the overworld is that you need to build your yuanwu to deal with spectro immune mobs

    • @Gration_
      @Gration_ 3 месяца назад

      If Yuan is healing and shielding you, you'd do better to slide in Mortefi over Verina then. you want different elements doing coordinated attacks, and Verina won't give as much as either of them. All 3 of these characters have some of the shortest on field times as well,

    • @ozmcsween
      @ozmcsween 3 месяца назад +1

      You definitely want mortefi/s4 baizhi/ or taoqi over verina for sure, unfortunately verina stacks up incandescence very slowly due to the shared elements

    • @SignOne
      @SignOne 3 месяца назад

      @@ozmcsween idk, the team is crazy. Did the hardest tower lvl 100 boss comfortably 3 stars. I kinda doubt you can make it much better. The rotations are almost too fast as you can't use echoes every time

    • @phoenixlau
      @phoenixlau 3 месяца назад

      Are you running double turtle shield, or is Verina on uh... Heron, I guess?

    • @SignOne
      @SignOne 3 месяца назад

      @@phoenixlau yes energy set on verina. Always swap from her back to jinshi. Jinshi - verina - yuanwu - verina - jinshi - loop

  • @justjuniorjaw
    @justjuniorjaw 3 месяца назад +2

    Everyone worrying too much about powercreep when Havoc MC exists. They're not as strong in this ToA thanks to the Havoc resistance, but once it changes it's never over for Rover.

  • @ejun251
    @ejun251 3 месяца назад +3

    The best part about Jinhsi is that her current best teams don't fit her well at all with Yinlin buffing Lib dmg and Electro deepen and Verina being the same element. Even if she's a DPS, I don't think she's going to be completely powercrept in quite a while.
    Regarding the wheelchair general, I'm fine with his theoretical DPS being lower since he pulls everything together and is completely face roll to play. I'd be more worried if a character comes out that does exactly what he does but better.

    • @WI-FI_GOD
      @WI-FI_GOD 3 месяца назад +1

      Ok so that confirms the next character I’m pulling for is her ideal support who ever that may be

    • @Tam-lv1mp
      @Tam-lv1mp 3 месяца назад

      jinhsi dmg aside, the pure amount of dps that yinlin provides over mortefi more than makes up for her lack of outro buff. yinlin ALONE can do half as much dmg as Jiyan. so even if jinhsi so much as matches jiyans dmg, the jinhsi yinlin pair will run laps around a jiyan team with s0 mortefi

  • @emperman
    @emperman 3 месяца назад +2

    Idc abt dmg power creep. What i wanna know is how you power creep those animations. Killing a boss with her skill 4 as it goes slow mo is the coolest thing in gacha imo

  • @paulpreserves8310
    @paulpreserves8310 3 месяца назад +1

    i think this is a special case because jinhsi represents Loong which is very important figure in chinese culture; so they made her strong enough on releade amd will release a busted support that actually buffs her (i will be coping on yuanwu healer set + taoqi tambourist er set for now)

  • @ami426-z5q
    @ami426-z5q 3 месяца назад +2

    actually yuanwu and mortefi stacks faster than yinlin

  • @happinintendo
    @happinintendo 3 месяца назад +1

    Got her and her weapon last night! Now to start leveling

  • @MostafaEsk-sb5bo
    @MostafaEsk-sb5bo 3 месяца назад +2

    Intro is something else

  • @restinginn9906
    @restinginn9906 3 месяца назад +1

    God I love this character

  • @1wk407
    @1wk407 3 месяца назад

    As of today I don't think we can say if powercreep is an issue or not. This is the 2nd limited main dps unit so we are still setting the bar for how a main DPS should perform in the first place, and you can't draw any definitive conclusions based on 2 data points. We'll just need to wait and see how the next few limited main DPSes perform.
    Considering that Jiyan has the utility of strong crowd control in his kit and the fact that those charts put Jiyan at a disadvantage (due to Yinlin being so much stronger than Mortefi in damage), I don't think the gap between them is that substantial.
    (before anyone accuses me of Jiyan bias I skipped him for Jinhsi, lol.)

  • @Crowjaw
    @Crowjaw 3 месяца назад

    The thing about jinhsi s2 its that you can literally use any character with her. You dont need off field damage you could enter with any other character do an 8 sec rotation leaving her for last and when she gets in shes nuke ready anyways.

  • @Luiisss
    @Luiisss 3 месяца назад +10

    if were getting powercreep early in this game whats more are we getting on later versions of the game. god have mercy!

    • @WanderingPoro_217
      @WanderingPoro_217 3 месяца назад +7

      I doubt they'd make a character like Jinhsi every patch, she's a Magistrate. She's the closest to an Archon we have since it seems Sentinels are unplayable characters, but who knows.

    • @forcodingg1287
      @forcodingg1287 3 месяца назад +3

      Chill bro, There no big sample size yet. Its a big chances Kuro make Jinhsi that strong because of Her lore. And this game little bit different than HSR for example, This game will punish you for Brute force the Content for example cronwless has 80% of havoc res. So you basically need to fight enemy with right element. This could be a lot worse in future, if they decide to drop boss who have 2 element res

    • @Luiisss
      @Luiisss 3 месяца назад +1

      @@WanderingPoro_217 archons like venti got powercreep by kazuha. And so many dps got powercreep on pgr too. And also like neuvilette on genshin powercreep all dps on genshin. So I think your capping

    • @Luiisss
      @Luiisss 3 месяца назад

      @@forcodingg1287 by the time we get on 2.0 or 3.0 you'll see. This is a gatcha game so powercreep is unavoidable.

    • @forcodingg1287
      @forcodingg1287 3 месяца назад +7

      @@Luiisss So you changing the point now?
      Im never say Powercreep will never happen in this type of game. Im Say that Your claim of "Powercreep this early" is little bit Reaching Because like i said No big enough sample size, The game literally in 1.1 Even 1.2 beta not even started yet

  • @jameslemons7304
    @jameslemons7304 3 месяца назад

    Not needing the first 4 basics by using her Intro skill to get to E2 immediately is so amazing.
    Also, Yuanwu is busted as a off field support for her, especially in Tower. He needs 1 to 2 seconds of field time. And everthing he does is Coordinated attacks :) and it's really easy to get him to R6 as try to get other banner characters.

    • @Yoinkqiqi
      @Yoinkqiqi 3 месяца назад

      indeed he just comes puts pillar and go shooooooo

  • @nickarooroo6397
    @nickarooroo6397 3 месяца назад +1

    So she’s essentially an Archon equivalent for this game?

  • @danusorn8655
    @danusorn8655 3 месяца назад +1

    Brother always speeds up the way he talks after 2 minutes hahahaha

  • @ardhianshoffan
    @ardhianshoffan 3 месяца назад +3

    its annoy me everytime jinhsi intro or calcharo intro, the camera suddenly go zoom in, hopefully get fix soon

    • @MrFruits_
      @MrFruits_ 3 месяца назад +1

      turn on camera reset in the settings, it might help

    • @ardhianshoffan
      @ardhianshoffan 3 месяца назад

      @@MrFruits_ thankyouu i try it, it help a little bit but idk why sometimes it back zoom in after intro with jinhsi or calcharo, but it really help sometimes on battle

  • @bryanjason7202
    @bryanjason7202 3 месяца назад

    Somebody give this man a spacebar 😂 tyvm mr Pokke, can’t wait for Changli

    • @gstakku5192
      @gstakku5192 3 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hq1082
    @hq1082 3 месяца назад

    I've been using her with Yuanwu and i get stellor glamour stacks so quickly half the bar is filled by the end of Yuanwus rotation and is filled completely by the time I use enough combos to activate her skill. Taoqi is another great damage boosting option she also gives you additional shields.

  • @kyotheman69
    @kyotheman69 3 месяца назад

    15:31 it more impacts your stats later math wise it makes difference more when going towards lvl 90 that Attack% will be better

  • @kazuhah1743
    @kazuhah1743 3 месяца назад

    stronger on spreadsheet, but not when a boss is trying to kill you

  • @semsigratajs9505
    @semsigratajs9505 3 месяца назад

    i believe v1.1 second banner will be stronger due to marketing strategies that seem to be implemented. Also there will be Taoqi

  • @Shyrkyr
    @Shyrkyr 3 месяца назад

    Mistake about her S5. It doesn't add 120% to her ult, it multiple her ult persantage by 2.2

  • @rexevan6714
    @rexevan6714 2 месяца назад

    I thought Jinhsi + signature has so much DMG%, she might just use 44111 echo setup

  • @nawawii3750
    @nawawii3750 3 месяца назад

    Fun Fact: Yangyang multiplier with S5 is higher than both Rover and Jinhsi

  • @valkyrieregalia
    @valkyrieregalia 3 месяца назад

    I don't think it's powercreep because Jinshi isn't as good at consistently being able to group up groups. I think she only really has one attack that groups up as opposed to her comparison which just gets a full rotation that can sweep up adds with ease. So, her doing more DPS seems justified.

  • @carismo9502
    @carismo9502 3 месяца назад

    HER GRACE
    I welcome thee home

  • @DBZeni
    @DBZeni 3 месяца назад

    I think the power creep is fine lore wise Jinhsi has an actual deity. Changli should be closer to Jiyan. Also PRydwens numbers are a bit different. jinhsi is about 15% stronger than Jiyan at s0 and 8% at s6

  • @cheekynandos5888
    @cheekynandos5888 3 месяца назад

    Tbh powercreep doesn’t really matter imo unless they make the bosses impossible unless you have the new featured unit

  • @Hououin818
    @Hououin818 3 месяца назад +1

    Honestly, if she's this powerful then either they're gonna powercreep tf out of her in the future or she's so strong that future dps lost their pull value.

  • @Z3LDASRO
    @Z3LDASRO 3 месяца назад

    They should make it to where if Jinhsi is in the sky floating she cannot! Get hit while she’s in the air that would be OP

  • @DiamondCityLights
    @DiamondCityLights 3 месяца назад

    I don’t think the powecreep will be a big issue, jinhsi is just a special case because of how strong she really is in lore.

  • @SylveonShihoin
    @SylveonShihoin 3 месяца назад

    The s2 calculation is incorrect
    It more than 10.86

  • @SenMid
    @SenMid 3 месяца назад +1

    hi Past SenMid
    I see you in chat mhm

  • @JohnStamR
    @JohnStamR 3 месяца назад

    I am not complaining, I committed to getting Jinhsi when I saw her in the story. But of all the things they nerf, they nerfed her r6 lol.
    As for power creep, obviously this is insane. Will have to wait and see, but not a good start to be that much stronger in a single patch and only the second patch of the game.

  • @revengeofshadow9353
    @revengeofshadow9353 3 месяца назад

    Bro why do people not use the first skill before starting the combo it is literally free multipliers and comes up in 2 seconds lol.

  • @kingerniemenor8128
    @kingerniemenor8128 3 месяца назад

    Jinhsi deals 6digit damage like it is normal damage 😂

  • @BoP
    @BoP 3 месяца назад

    Could we get some insights into tower of adversity team load outs and strategy? We usually need to run 3 teams of 3. Most players now have decided on 3 DPS and now need to start making teams for that.
    How do we go about managing sub-dps and sustain units? What should be the load out for the earlier stages up to the hazard tower itself? Verina is best in slot everywhere but you only have 1 Verina so how do we manage that?

    • @tidus9942
      @tidus9942 3 месяца назад

      well the middle tower is going to be the hardest and most likely want max level to complete but You want coordinated attacks for Jinhsi. So Verena, Yinlin, Yuwu, Mortefi, and others. You could use Havec MC as another main DPS with like of Danjin and a healer. Third team could be Jiaxin with whoever.

  • @matthewchristopher1313
    @matthewchristopher1313 3 месяца назад

    oot, but smth about the way he talks is satisfying

  • @tidus9942
    @tidus9942 3 месяца назад

    what I like abotu her is she will not hog all the screen time. For example when Verena gets power creeped I would like someone I keep on the field for more than 1 second lol especially if they are fun to play as. She also will make her future Sub DPSes really fun to play. She feels so good with Yinlin already.

  • @justjuniorjaw
    @justjuniorjaw 3 месяца назад

    I alone am the honored one. With this treasure I summon : Jue!

  • @4rchim
    @4rchim 3 месяца назад

    Seem her flying mechanic make her miss a lot for some reason. Or it's just me with flying skill issue lmao. (tho it doesn't really matter cuz that's not the big portion of the dmg anyway they all gettin destroy anyway) Miss them Seele glorious days.

  • @MurderMan11
    @MurderMan11 3 месяца назад

    Can we use Jinshi with Taoqi since Taoqi's outro buff works well with her?

  • @duckyo4045
    @duckyo4045 3 месяца назад

    Jinshi is dps (damage per screenshot)

  • @kingerniemenor8128
    @kingerniemenor8128 3 месяца назад

    Jiyan will have his after a 5star support came for him. I don't have jiyan because I want Yinlin more and jinhsi plays great with yinlin

  • @pinkavyek
    @pinkavyek 2 месяца назад

    bro has the world's most scuffed mic

  • @T8-TR
    @T8-TR 3 месяца назад

    Hopefully Jinshi is a one-off (because of her absolute Chad status in the lore) rather than the pace we're gonna creep units. I know Jiyan has comfort and a 5 star weapon vs unit, but it's still a bit rough for ONE patch later.

  • @PrinceMarthX
    @PrinceMarthX 3 месяца назад

    I think it's fine Jinhsi is stronger. Jiyan is better at parries and grouping up enemies. Jinhsi doesn't have a good way to group up enemies. I'd say she's more of a sidegrade rather than upgrade. She excels in single target but isn't as good with groups of enemies. You sacrifice utility for more damage. Sidegrades aren't powercreep.

  • @rifkiiqbal1164
    @rifkiiqbal1164 3 месяца назад

    I wonder why E2 value is not high enough. E2 literally omega boost pepe damage. In some CN or other streamer, said like you can get 50 stack so easy without E2. But for me as E2 jinshi player. Being able to do big pepe damage without thinking is abolutely crazy.

    • @GerriFuryman
      @GerriFuryman 3 месяца назад

      Because it’s 1 time thing. You will never have 50stack for free again, only 1 time in whole battle.

  • @Ryuoinsomnia
    @Ryuoinsomnia 3 месяца назад +1

    WTF why he didn't mention yuanwu? Prdwen literally said yuanwu is the best for jinhsi

    • @tidus9942
      @tidus9942 3 месяца назад +1

      best if you do not have Yinlin. I do need to gear him though since in tower my Yinlin is going with Calcharo.

  • @random.internet.person
    @random.internet.person 3 месяца назад

    What is a coordinated attack this game is killing me with the name of the skills can't we use the words ultimate, skill, stuff like this it's just crazy I don't understand anything about characters skills in this game I just get lost with the walls of text

    • @wuffletobu
      @wuffletobu 3 месяца назад

      attacks from off field, like yinlins lightning bolts or yuanwus pillar

  • @mdodry
    @mdodry 3 месяца назад

    bro had a stroke at 5:40

  • @brendonprophette8890
    @brendonprophette8890 3 месяца назад

    Is she Jinhsi because she is the strongest or is she the strongest because she is Jinhsi

  • @tactician3023
    @tactician3023 3 месяца назад

    It’s wild how people are comparing jiyan and jinhsi saying “she is only 10 percent better “ when yinlin and verina aren’t even ideal for her where mortefi is basically made to be a jiyan support lmao

  • @HeshO-yi3hh
    @HeshO-yi3hh 3 месяца назад

    Ten ten is punching the air rn 😂

  • @saiwaqa2573
    @saiwaqa2573 3 месяца назад

    you're not only sacrificing healing without verina, you sacrifice her outro damage amplification. Why would you sacrifice that for heavy attack deepen outro? Sounds dumb af.
    Also while Jinshi has yinlin, (even though yuanwu is better lol) she doesn't have a perfect support like mortefi is for jiyan.

  • @mercurexi
    @mercurexi 3 месяца назад

    No mention about Taoqi ? Weird, I thought the "theorycrafters" had put her as the best teammate ? lol Color me surprised that Taoqi, with her SUPER SLOW concerto generation is not even mentioned !

    • @GerriFuryman
      @GerriFuryman 3 месяца назад

      Taoqi is only for 1 hit, then you will suffer. People used her for 1shot at s6. IWTL hit for 1mill with her and verina.

  • @rubic7447
    @rubic7447 3 месяца назад

    2:20 When you cast your skill but it missed.

  • @WI-FI_GOD
    @WI-FI_GOD 3 месяца назад

    If shes the equivalent of a archon and jue is the equivalent of a sovereign dragon
    And sovereign dragon said rover is their master and probably the master of all the other sentinels
    No matter what power creep happens rover will remain the at the pinnacle 😎

  • @rakumairu
    @rakumairu 3 месяца назад

    Is 44111 also viable for e0s0 (Jiyan’s sig weap)?
    Still doesn’t have two good cost 3

  • @DilushaPramudith
    @DilushaPramudith 3 месяца назад +2

    everyone is saying powercreep etc in a pve gacha game lmao , yes in a way ofc her story and looking at who she is , she gotta deal insane damage she is personal resonator selected by jue and
    just from my view i will not summon for jinhsi because i personaly dont enjoy her playing in mind and when i played her trial but ohh i like her damage xd but i also will not expect to get characters that powerful as this in future too as i looking at jinhsi from being a personal jue resonator ( a archon character like in genshin impact ) but in the way longer run there will be even more powerful characters or easy play easy dmg characters will come in terms of story wise settings, this game represents good match with its story to its characters damage and abilities , i like it and im pulling for changli ;p cuz i like her

  • @OutboundFlight87
    @OutboundFlight87 3 месяца назад

    At this point gamers just pull dragon themed characters to have a good time

  • @Ollaa
    @Ollaa 3 месяца назад

    So does her E2 work while swapping or only 1 per battle?

  • @bumbar9776
    @bumbar9776 3 месяца назад

    poent of fast talcking is your gopro out of batery ?

  • @HSRMOC
    @HSRMOC 3 месяца назад

    Calcs are dumb. Yinlin be making up 50% of the teams dmg by herself. We already know how much dmg yinlin can do with her weapon. Doesn’t matter that yinlin doesn’t have an outro buff when she is dealing as much dmg as a main dps would.

  • @Lumiere192
    @Lumiere192 3 месяца назад +2

    27:51 only 10% better but has two 5 stars so imo they are equal lol

    • @BelanTatakae
      @BelanTatakae 3 месяца назад

      eh tbf if you look at the dmg jinhsi is doing only you can see that she is doing way more dmg than jiyan although unparalled in terms of confortability, jinhsi is just better in terms of dmg and especially dps(she does like twice the dps jiyan is doing, which makes sense cause she is a nuke character)

    • @Lumiere192
      @Lumiere192 3 месяца назад +1

      Dude no look at their personal damage and not their damage with supports
      Jinhsi : 37717
      Jiyan: 36213
      They are almost the exact same she is not some crazy busted dps and jiyan is a lot more comfortable to play for people they are equal

    • @BelanTatakae
      @BelanTatakae 3 месяца назад

      @@Lumiere192 thats what i said tho??

    • @Lumiere192
      @Lumiere192 3 месяца назад

      @@BelanTatakae “you can see that she is doing way more smh than jiyan” is what you said when she lo the literally is doing 2% more (1.3k) more damage that is not way more damage ?

    • @BelanTatakae
      @BelanTatakae 3 месяца назад

      @@Lumiere192 its dps so the actual difference is much higher than you think(around 16% dpr difference)

  • @Lumiere192
    @Lumiere192 3 месяца назад +1

    Mid will get powercrept changli on top

    • @nachalnik5738
      @nachalnik5738 3 месяца назад +1

      Not even close, lol

    • @Lumiere192
      @Lumiere192 3 месяца назад +1

      @@nachalnik5738 she’s as strong as jiyan so

    • @ZiziDxv
      @ZiziDxv 3 месяца назад +1

      even changli has a weaker level than jiyan as dps💀​@@Lumiere192

    • @Lumiere192
      @Lumiere192 3 месяца назад

      @@ZiziDxv she’s a sub dps u dumby! I’m saying she’ll have more longevity and will be relevant for longer as a fusion damage booster for future units, jinhsi is just a dps that gets powercrept

    • @MaineOneV1
      @MaineOneV1 3 месяца назад +2

      she doesn't even have bis supports yet. its gonna be awhile for that to happen.

  • @paulthepoly
    @paulthepoly 3 месяца назад +2

    so is she a must pull?

    • @rioshin8209
      @rioshin8209 3 месяца назад

      must pull if you lack of dps character and also if you can get her sign, jinhsi without sign is incomplete but still strong

    • @paulthepoly
      @paulthepoly 3 месяца назад

      @@rioshin8209 If one has acquired all possible 5 stars in the game prior of jinhsi, would one be correct to say that jinhsi is a skip or in other words. Unnecessary?

    • @rioshin8209
      @rioshin8209 3 месяца назад

      ​@@paulthepoly if you have yinlin i recommend pull jinhsi, if you can clear everything with what you have then unnecessary

    • @leoredreo726
      @leoredreo726 3 месяца назад

      ​@@paulthepolypull if you like the character is the best advise I can give. If you're going for meta, then pull her since she is the best dps rn and potentially will be better when the best in slot support come.

    • @paulthepoly
      @paulthepoly 3 месяца назад

      @@leoredreo726 but won't there likely be a better dps in the future?

  • @luv.fluffychan
    @luv.fluffychan 3 месяца назад

    i cant get used to him trying to act cool on camera 😭

  • @aliffekal213
    @aliffekal213 3 месяца назад

    What happen if you stack point attribute with 2 coordinators and each coordinators has different echo attribute?...does it stack?🤔

  • @Accountthatexists
    @Accountthatexists 3 месяца назад +15

    Rest in peice jiyan, RIP bozo

    • @judielgabrielmanalo5031
      @judielgabrielmanalo5031 3 месяца назад +8

      Our general😵

    • @Accountthatexists
      @Accountthatexists 3 месяца назад +10

      @@judielgabrielmanalo5031 oh no it's a "our general" situation all over again💀

    • @CarterVanek-uv3ow
      @CarterVanek-uv3ow 3 месяца назад +5

      Watch out "R/JiyanMains" will be at ur doorstep

    • @navneetremanand8281
      @navneetremanand8281 3 месяца назад

      Jiyan rhymes with Jingyuan. Mercy to our general.

    • @judielgabrielmanalo5031
      @judielgabrielmanalo5031 3 месяца назад

      @@Accountthatexists what’s funny is that i heard jiyan will not get buffed with supports anytime soon compared to jy who gets buffed every patch 💀

  • @araara5956
    @araara5956 3 месяца назад

    The first herrscher of 1.0. Not a gen 2 *cough" some cc out there

  • @chinnerchilla
    @chinnerchilla 3 месяца назад +1

    Bro who cares about power creep just play the game and pull for characters you want to pull for. it’s bound to happen but it doesn’t mean older units won’t be able to clear the content. this is a single player game they have to make sure any well built character can clear whatever they add.

  • @1-hritayandebnath807
    @1-hritayandebnath807 3 месяца назад +1

    People who skipped yinlin because of jinhsi whereas you could have pulled both... are you guys winning?

    • @umani9983
      @umani9983 3 месяца назад +3

      Yinlin is only the temporary best sub dps for her becuase of her coordinated attack, her other buffs doesn't benefit Jinxi much. It would be better to wait for dedicated spectral support.

    • @keneunaegbu851
      @keneunaegbu851 3 месяца назад

      Yes I am, because I'm also getting Changli and her weapon too 😂

    • @azeemsiddiqui4764
      @azeemsiddiqui4764 3 месяца назад +1

      If I rolled Yinlin I would not have gotten Jinhsi, who is my favorite char rn, so yes, I am winning.

    • @1-hritayandebnath807
      @1-hritayandebnath807 3 месяца назад

      @@umani9983 doesn't benefit? Brother the highest multiplier of Jinhsi's kit is her Liberation... and what does Yin Lin buff again? I would allow you to answer that question... we don't alway meed Bis supports there's no abundance of Astrites to pull Bis when there's a good enough support available

    • @1-hritayandebnath807
      @1-hritayandebnath807 3 месяца назад

      @@keneunaegbu851 standard banner weapon is enough...

  • @reigncyan2427
    @reigncyan2427 3 месяца назад

    Nice.. so i can finally use 3 cost spectro echo with att%

  • @nopputhihk848
    @nopputhihk848 3 месяца назад

    I fail to get her today, will still try but i hope changli kit get change a bit so it's not as clunky, i want her.

    • @thornszk
      @thornszk 3 месяца назад

      Does Changli have animation delays like Yinlin?

    • @ludicolo1106
      @ludicolo1106 3 месяца назад

      ​@@thornszk chang li can animation cancel / skill cancel.

  • @randomoofkingstuff2174
    @randomoofkingstuff2174 3 месяца назад

    lol there are peeps, whom one shooting hologram 6 with jianzhi arleady .

  • @RinrinFran
    @RinrinFran 3 месяца назад

    Nahhh Spectro Rover + Jinhsi led to my L60 Jinhsi do 100k+ damage on Difficulty 6 Crownless.

  • @higgitaj
    @higgitaj 3 месяца назад

    So neither Prydwen nor CN community rundown brings it up, so can someone explain why my cook is bad?
    RC6 SpectRover does Spectro RES shred, so running mono-Spectro with Verina seems like a decent comp (the amplify given by other sub-dps aren't well-used by Jinhsi so only the moonlit clouds set + heron are the useful buffs)
    Maybe the lack of coordinated attacks from SpectRover are why she isn't considered? But maybe with Jinhsi's RC2 for auto-filling the bar we don't need coordinated attackers anymore

    • @saiwaqa2573
      @saiwaqa2573 3 месяца назад +1

      the s2 only works once in end game content. After that initial blast from her skill, she is going to lack the team mates she needs to get those stacks up to 50 fast enough to use her skill again. That appears to be the main issue here.

    • @higgitaj
      @higgitaj 3 месяца назад

      @@saiwaqa2573 is there a mistranslation on the s2? "this can only be triggered one time every 4s" doesn't seem like a once-per-battle boon

    • @saiwaqa2573
      @saiwaqa2573 3 месяца назад +1

      @@higgitaj Its only when jinhsi is not in any battle. This can be determined by: Not using stamina when on flat ground. So it works in the overworld allowing you to nuke everything without any build-up time and time again... But in TOA, holograms etc... It only works for the first skill. You will need to build up her forte all over again after that skill.

    • @higgitaj
      @higgitaj 3 месяца назад

      @@saiwaqa2573 thanks! I interpreted "out of combat" as just off field and thought that s2 was way more OP than it actually is

    • @saiwaqa2573
      @saiwaqa2573 3 месяца назад +1

      @@higgitaj no worries man tbf Kuro and translations are not a good mix haha

  • @kgutz9450
    @kgutz9450 3 месяца назад

    yuanwu makes my jinhsi charge faster hes like a fast charging cable

  • @Miku-Izayoi
    @Miku-Izayoi 3 месяца назад

    Aww, my massive skill issue is gonna get in the way then, since I don't feel comfy playing without a healer. I guess I'll just wait for the next best dps xd

    • @tunagucer6962
      @tunagucer6962 3 месяца назад +2

      Just play her with verina. She is so good with yinlin/mortefi + Verina

    • @tunagucer6962
      @tunagucer6962 3 месяца назад

      Just play her with verina. She is so good with yinlin/mortefi + Verina

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw 3 месяца назад

      Verina is ok. Yuanwu is fine. Even Baizhi is fine. All of them can stack Jinshi, while providing sustain.
      Once you practice her post E2 combo with Grapple, you can dodge quite a few attacks in the air while doing your next AAAAEE combo. Also, you can animation cancel to dodge some attack.

    • @Miku-Izayoi
      @Miku-Izayoi 3 месяца назад

      @@tunagucer6962 I do think she's good with Verina since her ult does have some sort of coordinated attack but if they're saying she's at her best in a team that doesn't use any healers, won't that mean I'm not gonna be using her to her full potential and lose out on her performance? ( ͒ ́ඉ .̫ ඉ ̀ ͒)

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Miku-IzayoiA better way to put it is that Jinshi's potential isn't maximized today in 1.1, similar to how Seele or Jing Yuan's potential wasn't maximized in 1.0 HSR.