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  • Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
  • In this video, MrPokke discusses about the issues when reaching Union Level 60 (UL) in Wuthering Waves. Will rewards improve upon reaching said level? Did the devs finally listened to the feedback or has it gotten worse? Stay tuned to find out.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:33 UL60 is Max Level? (no its not)
    2:03 Weekly Boss Drops
    4:20 Forgery Challenge Drops
    8:16 Tacet Field Drops (No More 1-Costs)
    10:06 UL50 vs UL60 Tacet Field Drops
    17:18 Boss Drops
    19:54 Nuclear Twitter Post
    20:40 Final Thoughts
    22:06 Outro
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Комментарии • 775

  • @nickh4354
    @nickh4354 13 дней назад +552

    DEVS LISTENED!
    DEVS DIDNT LISTENED!
    GAME IS COOKED
    KURO COOKED!
    BAD GAME
    GOOD GAME!
    average week of mr pokke uploads

    • @N07_P4G3
      @N07_P4G3 13 дней назад +26

      I’m exhausted

    • @hipunpun
      @hipunpun 13 дней назад +5

      Also exhausted

    • @Jugement
      @Jugement 13 дней назад +39

      From clickbait to trademark meme lol. I used to find it annoying as well, but not taking it seriously at all and him capitalizing big time on it ended up making it legitimately funny to me. He's going so overboard with the mood swings and sardonic faces now that i cant manage not to crack a smile every time haha

    • @ii-re9re
      @ii-re9re 13 дней назад +2

      Its him memes

    • @nickh4354
      @nickh4354 13 дней назад +3

      @@Jugement it isn't annoying or bothering me to be fair, it is what it is, a funny observation 😄

  • @rioshin8209
    @rioshin8209 13 дней назад +457

    the problem is why the hell tacet field using 60 instead of 40 with that kind of rewards, when the thing is you need to upgrade "every" correct main stat echo to decide if the echo is good or not (which is waste of exp), when in other games you already know the relic/artifact is trash from the get go also can be used as exp material

    • @darko6115
      @darko6115 13 дней назад +4

      No literally my same question

    • @oreo0sama
      @oreo0sama 13 дней назад +83

      True ,as much as I love the game, 60 on tacet just feels outright bad. they should really balance out the drops since we can't feed the junk.

    • @onimusha950
      @onimusha950 13 дней назад +9

      True, tacet fields are basically the caverns of corrosion in hsr and those only cost 40 stamina per run. No idea why they cost 60 in wuthering waves when the rewards are so underwhelming

    • @ParafrostV
      @ParafrostV 13 дней назад +15

      ​@onimusha950 still costs about the same stamina to max stuff. It levels it out with infinite farming and getting many right main stats vs having to wait for the right main stat to drop with the correct stats and then roll into those correct stats. 8 months still using a shit phys orb on Argenti. Used 8 self modeling resin too.

    • @crowing3886
      @crowing3886 13 дней назад +9

      They should be 30 if we being honest, especially since the golds don't even increase.

  • @SAyGOoDByEToOldLIfE
    @SAyGOoDByEToOldLIfE 13 дней назад +64

    They really need to adress the scaling of the droprates of the challnges. It just doesnt feel rewarding to progress in the game like that.

    • @devildante9
      @devildante9 13 дней назад +9

      +50% difficulty, +5% rewards. Yeah, at this rate I'll rather stay at level 40 rather than getting to 60. Remember when in genshin people got exited for getting to the next rank

    • @XenoWars
      @XenoWars 5 дней назад

      ​@@devildante9I just wish you get lije 5 boss drops in Genshin. its insane we still get mostly 2 with a chance of 3 at max rank. Ley Line drops also could be much better, like 10 purples per instead of 4-5. We were excited back in the day, but nowadays we know it's trash. Thats why building characters in HSR is so much better cause you get more rewards with about the sane number required. Ill take a day and a half to max ascend a character over 5 days.

    • @user-rb7hu3km4z
      @user-rb7hu3km4z 10 часов назад

      ​@@devildante9am already at 60 lv but with characters 😂

  • @Lol-Lol0
    @Lol-Lol0 14 дней назад +283

    The most problem i have on wuwa is definitely the reward is lacking. If the stamina cost on the weekly is 30 and tacet is 40 i can get by it. But it's 60!

    • @Hououin818
      @Hououin818 13 дней назад +19

      This problem exists in PGR as well, farming materials is stupidly expensive even if they give some free energy in PGR

    • @Nakirakira
      @Nakirakira 13 дней назад +36

      @@Hououin818never had that problem in PGR though . Just farm the event resource stage and get resources using the event mats .

    • @lasmariasdc2278
      @lasmariasdc2278 13 дней назад +6

      We will have enough events eventually Idk why everyone is so impatient.

    • @niernightgaming2925
      @niernightgaming2925 13 дней назад +21

      @@Hououin818 lol what ? it will be a problem only if u try to build everything together .Never had a problem with serum

    • @pillowhead4456
      @pillowhead4456 13 дней назад

      @@lasmariasdc2278 The problem is, events is still limited resources, once you're done with it, its gone

  • @staffofhomeless7510
    @staffofhomeless7510 13 дней назад +85

    ✋THIS CHANGES NOTHING✋

  • @mik0z474
    @mik0z474 13 дней назад +36

    farming in wuwa is absolutely horrible, you can do like 4 tacet field but you can barely upgrade 1 max echo

  • @HeIix_
    @HeIix_ 13 дней назад +84

    The only thing that increased is the difficulty but not the rewards 😅

    • @Stormtide
      @Stormtide 13 дней назад +1

      what difficulty? 💀

    • @echo3568
      @echo3568 9 дней назад

      @@Stormtidehave you done the holograms yet

    • @Stormtide
      @Stormtide 8 дней назад

      @@echo3568 yes most of them, they're not that hard lol
      but holograms has nothing to do with union level

    • @echo3568
      @echo3568 8 дней назад +1

      @@Stormtide oh shit you’re right my bad💀

    • @Stormtide
      @Stormtide 8 дней назад +1

      @@echo3568 all good haha

  • @neural8597
    @neural8597 13 дней назад +76

    Its going to be absolutely nuclear if they post a dev post next week saying they are increasing higher level domain rewards

    • @user-rb7hu3km4z
      @user-rb7hu3km4z 10 часов назад

      You people just leveling up too fast. It's JUST 1.1 !!!!!!!!!

  • @guidomista5738
    @guidomista5738 13 дней назад +27

    Jesus Christ how tf did his tacet fields rewards got LESSER than previous UL50. Devs unlistened.

    • @LilRussDawg
      @LilRussDawg 12 дней назад

      devs really plugged their ears and hit us with the "LALALALALALALALALA!"

  • @Erox006
    @Erox006 13 дней назад +14

    the honeymoon ended SO FAST we are rushing towards divorce saga

  • @JoyBoyAlter
    @JoyBoyAlter 13 дней назад +150

    Tuners is by far the worst part. 20 tuners for 60 waveplates is a fucking scam no matter which way you slice it

    • @MrSparkleFart
      @MrSparkleFart 13 дней назад

      The echo exp is a bigger issue on the long run, I have 1000 gold tuners and no exp

    • @Ali-ex6im
      @Ali-ex6im 13 дней назад +24

      Nah the tuners is fine compare to the exp it's pain

    • @Ainlore
      @Ainlore 13 дней назад +8

      If youre lvl 60 you wont need tuner
      At lvl 50 you will get 400 tuner which i dont even use. I have like 1000 gold Tuner with 0 exp

    • @EkkoNii
      @EkkoNii 13 дней назад +6

      ​@@Ainlore Thats because you geared everyone before ue50

    • @Vadikus2424
      @Vadikus2424 13 дней назад +9

      Tuners are so easy to get. What I always lack are the EXPs. I have around 700 tuners rn and 0 EXPs

  • @yashtandon7460
    @yashtandon7460 13 дней назад +45

    So, you are telling me I can tune 5 echos every 4 days?

    • @xlightninghawk6360
      @xlightninghawk6360 13 дней назад +16

      i have nearly 1k tuners, why are yall bitching so hard? i also got bis stats on 4 characters

    • @thornszk
      @thornszk 13 дней назад +3

      If you got enough exp to level them, yes.

    • @GhostyCG
      @GhostyCG 13 дней назад +54

      @@xlightninghawk6360 my man , you either got lucky or stopped building any other echoes , or both , lot of player just get trash echoes and ends up using a godly amount of tuners just to merely get 1 decent set of echoes for a character

    • @tonberry_
      @tonberry_ 13 дней назад +1

      ​@@xlightninghawk6360This dumbass didnt catch the important point

    • @kurostyx9124
      @kurostyx9124 13 дней назад +21

      @@xlightninghawk6360 lol, the issue is xp, not tuners

  • @Violet-0
    @Violet-0 13 дней назад +9

    THIS is literally the one thing that’s keeping WuWa in a bad light. Forget the compensations, forget kuro listening. When majority of the time you’ll be suffering with the INSANELY high costs but little rewards to level up your characters. 💀

    • @user-rb7hu3km4z
      @user-rb7hu3km4z 10 часов назад

      Meantime in greedy Genshin you have less rewards

  • @treasure9342
    @treasure9342 13 дней назад +52

    U know of the "Dev listened" thumbnail face
    But what about the new "devs didnt listen" thumbnail face

    • @foxacin
      @foxacin 13 дней назад +2

      we already got the new "devs didn't listen" face in this video thumbnail

    • @treasure9342
      @treasure9342 13 дней назад +2

      @@foxacin .........ya that's the joke💀

    • @foxacin
      @foxacin 13 дней назад +1

      @@treasure9342 my bad bro😭🙏

  • @Olivian9960
    @Olivian9960 13 дней назад +22

    Can bro form a sentence without saying "insane, this changes everything, holy, nuclear' etc anymore? he started to sound more like an npc lately even though he does most of it intentionally, holy nuclear npc

    • @Kramer8
      @Kramer8 13 дней назад +2

      Ironic comes from NPC saying "Holy Nuclear NPC".

    • @MRJonFOXY
      @MRJonFOXY 16 часов назад

      I felt the same and unsubbed. It's weird that when he went full time RUclipsr his content got worse lol he has gotten lazy with his videos puts no effort just clickbaits and I realized he doesn't even know what he's talking about just pulls up a cn chart and points to it. Beginning of hsr he seemed like he actually cared lol

  • @blanc1720
    @blanc1720 13 дней назад +105

    holy nuclear toxic positivity thinking these rewards are good. Wuwa community turning into genshin where anything kuro does it either fine or a bug. come on guys

    • @sir_rybow8342
      @sir_rybow8342 13 дней назад +26

      But but they give out alot of rewards so it's okay!.. right? Lmao

    • @Vadikus2424
      @Vadikus2424 13 дней назад +48

      It's so frustrating when all they can say is that "yEa BUt gENShiT ReWADrs ARE WoRse ThaN thIs ThO". Like, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONE WHO KEEPS COMPARING YOUR GAME TO GENSHIN AND DO YOU ALL NOT WANT YOUR GAME TO BE EVEN BETTER???

    • @marcuskane1040
      @marcuskane1040 13 дней назад +31

      Kuro's meatriders are already much worse. Absolutely delusional

    • @altra1616
      @altra1616 13 дней назад +43

      @@marcuskane1040but I noticed whoever says " kudos meat riders are much worse" are 99% Genshin meat riders😅

    • @Vadikus2424
      @Vadikus2424 13 дней назад +23

      @@marcuskane1040 the mindset of Kuro fans even before WuWa came out is that "Games by Hoyo and the fans = Bad. Niche gacha games and fans = Good". PGR global chat is so full of those people

  • @marcusshane
    @marcusshane 13 дней назад +80

    They really need to either add a increase in drops amount per rank or lower the cost of running these things because 60 is just jarring.
    Weeklys costing half for first 3 times each week would help. I really believe everything else does not need to cost more than 40... This is disappointing man...

    • @ninetyninenights6226
      @ninetyninenights6226 13 дней назад +11

      Weeklys are a 3x a week only thing LOL

    • @pandan__
      @pandan__ 13 дней назад +2

      @@ninetyninenights6226they meant that they should reduce the stamina cost of tacet fields by half for the first three runs each week as a suggestion to make it a bit more tolerable.

    • @sainyam7123
      @sainyam7123 13 дней назад +2

      @@pandan__ You can only get rewards from weekly bosses three times

    • @pandan__
      @pandan__ 13 дней назад

      @@sainyam7123 yeah you are right, I read his original comment incorrectly. I was on the shitter when I skimmed their message and wrote that comment lol.

    • @Qopa
      @Qopa 13 дней назад +3

      welcome to PGR. it's even worse in that game.
      Plus, it's completely normal for kurodevs to give you scarce resources when you have to farm for weapon exp, character exp, character skill, rng with memory set resonance in PGR, farming memory/echo set resources to upgrade, upgrading/getting dups, etc.
      They're literally copying this weekly boss idea from GI/HSR and made it worst somehow lmaooo.

  • @4Deuroz
    @4Deuroz 13 дней назад +12

    Love the new meme that will pop out of this "DEV DIDN'T LISTEN"

    • @user-rb7hu3km4z
      @user-rb7hu3km4z 10 часов назад

      Devs don't care about you rambling kid

  • @banefury
    @banefury 13 дней назад +9

    if they didnt expect people to go to ul60 so early. then why is it there?
    compensation~~~

  • @amirridzuannnnn
    @amirridzuannnnn 13 дней назад +4

    I wish all players, including the metas and casuals, please write this problem in your next survey. It is so ridiculous. We have 240 stamina but only few runs can be done in single log in everyday.

    • @user-rb7hu3km4z
      @user-rb7hu3km4z 10 часов назад

      In other gacha games things are way worse

  • @leemohammed7775
    @leemohammed7775 13 дней назад +5

    i wonder if SOL3 Phase 8 affects Bell-Borne, since its Overworld instead of like a Weekly Boss Domain, where you can pick only up to Level 90

    • @TheTripleJski
      @TheTripleJski 6 дней назад

      interesting thought, now I share this curiosity

  • @LongXue
    @LongXue 6 дней назад +1

    Why is seeing Pokke's face in every video kinda refreshing recently... well what I mean by that is I haven't seen him since 2 months ago just because.

  • @kingskiller2900
    @kingskiller2900 13 дней назад +10

    13:40 he left faster than most of dad's 💀

  • @watashiwasmartphonega6601
    @watashiwasmartphonega6601 13 дней назад +3

    Did you guys also see the devs reduced the spawns of the mobs around the world so you can't perma echo farm as much per day anymore. For example the ones at the entrance of the Feilan Wind Monkey 4* echo. No longer spawns 4x 3 star monkeys. This is only one of many. They didn't even say anything. The devs are so cringe now

    • @guizarxxi
      @guizarxxi 11 дней назад +1

      They got rid of it because the mobs were too close to the checkpoint when you spawned it

  • @redfoxakame
    @redfoxakame 13 дней назад +3

    "It's the same phoe toe."
    Truly a *NEUTRAL* moment. 🤣

  • @johncmcham
    @johncmcham 13 дней назад +14

    the possibility of 0 purple drops at UL40 already felt bad, no guaranteed gold by UL60 is insane

    • @Antidepressiva1980
      @Antidepressiva1980 13 дней назад +5

      Ikr, yesterday i had a run of 6 forgery fields. union lvl47 and i got 1 time out of the 6 runs 1 purple drop. 5 times out of 6 i only got blue and green . Feels right, yeah.

    • @Tiasung
      @Tiasung 13 дней назад +4

      I mean what do you expect. Echo exp is not an issue but people complain about it so it gets buffed. Trace leveling mats is an issue and people dont complain about it so it doesnt get buffed. This is why good feedback matters.

    • @user-rb7hu3km4z
      @user-rb7hu3km4z 10 часов назад

      Don't level up don't level up

  • @ragee8807
    @ragee8807 13 дней назад +3

    This made me think twice on spending my condensed wave plates. Im planning on burning them rn to build characters, it might be good to wait for changes.

  • @brutallyhonestpikachu8250
    @brutallyhonestpikachu8250 13 дней назад +5

    Let's hope Devs Listen!

  • @utsubyo
    @utsubyo 13 дней назад +8

    And i still dont think echo exp is an issue, you can get two echoes to max every 3 days (not including exp from events/endgame/exploration), try getting two relics to max in 3 days in HSR, goodluck with that, you cant with the exp that you get in those 3 days, it feels like there's more exp because you get garbage 90% of the time and you maybe get one relic that's even worth considering every week, id rather have consistent progress that we have in WuWa instead of having tons of exp waiting and having to pray day after day for something to level up

  • @knefehaj1056
    @knefehaj1056 13 дней назад +5

    Oh damn we have a "devs ddnt listen" face now

  • @MiAGamerz404
    @MiAGamerz404 13 дней назад +4

    as the saying goes, nothing can kill a game except for the dev themselves.

  • @JohnStamR
    @JohnStamR 13 дней назад +7

    I admit I was a coper of expecting too much for how early on we were. MrPokke was right, now that I have been working on echos and see the rewards for higher levels, holy shit I was wrong af... I still do not have max echos on anyone other than Rover because +10 or +15 sub farming drains everything so fast, purely exp I have not ran out of tuners yet (also have not converted tuners since I think that came out in 1.1?). Its actually insane the previous max roll does not become the next level's minimum roll at least...

    • @kuratse205
      @kuratse205 13 дней назад

      Since when did you start? I have 3 (almost 4) really top tier +25 echo sets with high cv and perfect main stats. And I only farmed overworld mobs like 2-3 weeks max, and then no longer do.

    • @TSH425
      @TSH425 13 дней назад

      ​@@kuratse205it's a luck thing I started playing the game at launch and my echoes are absolute shit... UL 48 f2p almost no refreshes at all grinding out the world daily and my shit is absolute garbage...

    • @kuratse205
      @kuratse205 13 дней назад

      @@TSH425 So what was your strategy when obtaining and raising echoes?
      The best way to raise echoes is to only raise correct main stat echoes to +10/+15 depending on the roll. Then if it does not gain a crit roll, discard and retry with another echo. Specifically for 3costs however, you want to raise up to +15/+20 minimum. I spent ~2-3 weeks farming overworld for 3cost echoes (full clear 3 different types of 3costs per day), but most of my echoes came from TFs.
      I have a 261cv, 230cv, and a full (main and substat) ER rejuv set.
      All you need is just to get double crit. It's not that hard.

    • @TSH425
      @TSH425 13 дней назад

      @@kuratse205 yes good strategy but it ONLY WORKS IF U GET THE CORRECT MAIN STAT TO BEGIN WITH😭that's the problem if ur unlucky as shit u can spend a week farming just for flautits(me that's me💀) and get not 1 good main stat to lvl up then after getting a good main stat the substats end up being absolutely ass the only set that I have down is wind and electro since my mains were those elements (2 ok electro sets and 1 amazing wind set) my healer set is absolute ass since i haven't gotten a single gold energy regen main stat... I quite literally cant build it even if I try so atp I just use whatever I have

    • @kuratse205
      @kuratse205 13 дней назад

      @@TSH425 TFs give like 1-3 on element and on set 3cost every 2 days though. At UL50 data21 the drop rate is pretty alright

  • @advendra6078
    @advendra6078 13 дней назад

    This is actually fun to watch. An entertaining video outside, and serious inside.

  • @penguins0301
    @penguins0301 13 дней назад

    I'm here hearing online professional opinions on this information. You guys are so awesome

  • @oussamatouati5067
    @oussamatouati5067 13 дней назад +6

    yea the need to increase the rates its absolutly diabolical

  • @DisappointedJynxzi
    @DisappointedJynxzi 13 дней назад +9

    I hate that you cant use Duplicate echoes to level up your main echo, and if they dont want to reduce the waveplate consumption for Tacet fields and Forgery challenge, they should at least reduce the time needed to fill all the waveplates. Also, if they dont really want to reduce anything, at least increase the rewards for the things that was mentioned

  • @heartabduction
    @heartabduction 4 дня назад

    That mischievous smile while typing in the beginning😂

  • @tonberry_
    @tonberry_ 13 дней назад +5

    I love wuwa sm but these development material waveplate requirement and the rewards they gave are absolute trash

  • @steffan5156
    @steffan5156 13 дней назад +7

    They really should atleast 1.5-2x the reward for any waveplates activities with the current cost. Its really ass.

  • @renyoudie
    @renyoudie 13 дней назад +3

    Tacet fields stay being the biggest scam in the game. Cant believe those things cost 60 stamina. The only time they felt decent to do was during the 2x event

  • @LittleMonarch-nh8zx
    @LittleMonarch-nh8zx 13 дней назад +2

    I don't really mind about the tacet field, just hope they increase the reward or other echoes can be used for upgrade. But the forgery is my real issue as it just drop 1 purple in UL 50, they should increase it because it's kind of a headache

  • @yogandi8922
    @yogandi8922 13 дней назад +4

    so in conclusion i'm not missing out at ul 46, truly wuwa devs are goated

    • @LilRussDawg
      @LilRussDawg 12 дней назад +1

      after you get the 5 star weapon box there is no point of higher UL even data bank 21 got reworked back to SOL lvl 5

  • @gordonfoo2416
    @gordonfoo2416 13 дней назад +35

    this is actually disappointing, they even promised us will increase the rewards of Echo EXP from 1.0 Dev's notes. Then they just simply Gaslight us and say mistranslate.

    • @willburning6955
      @willburning6955 13 дней назад +2

      Let's be honest...if you obtain more using waveplates or more throught the events if you don't buy more waveplates It Is the same... additionally for Who don't do tacit fields as me because they are a scam we are very Happy about this mistranslation's true meaning

    • @mrp6k490
      @mrp6k490 13 дней назад +16

      That was actually a translation error (hah.) afaik.. They meant increase special events and not just a straight up increase.

    • @Gheniel_
      @Gheniel_ 13 дней назад +11

      It was said "increase echo materials for events" in chinese. So it wasn't about tacet fields. In english it was "increase yield of echo materials", it wasn't specified how.

    • @gordonfoo2416
      @gordonfoo2416 13 дней назад +1

      @@mrp6k490 sad, genuinely

  • @royalgames6090
    @royalgames6090 13 дней назад +4

    tbh they really really really need to make tacit fields cozt 40 stamina instead of 60 cuz 60 is just too much
    everything else is fine
    Normal bosses are fine
    weekly bosses are fine to i my opinion cuz you only need 6 to maxx out a character i believe which is 120 stamina which is really cheap compared to other games
    for the talent materials it's really hard to tell cuz getting a purple one in genshin is really hard at the highest levelmain while here you're getting 2 here which is nive as well and it's not even the highest level yet so i think it's fine
    tacit fields tho really need to give 30 at least or be changed to 40 stamina instead of 60 cuz that's insanity high

  • @968Yamii
    @968Yamii 13 дней назад +3

    if this keeps going.. as much as i love wuwa i believe i would say that kuro mightve missing revenue and playerbase in the near future.. yes theyve been generous with the "reward" for pulls but other than that we have too many issue with the game, and tacet field just a bits of it.

  • @kuratse205
    @kuratse205 13 дней назад +2

    As a non-refresher, I have pretty decent echoes. 261cv and 17ER on a 43311 fusion/fusion on fusion set, and a 230cv 43311 havoc/havoc on havoc set. So a high roll and a mid roll set within only 40 days since launch. I'd say that it is a pretty good rate of grind. MrPokke just doesnt touch grass. Compared to my time in genshin and HSR, the grind is far better but it wants me to actually play the game and go around the world to farm echoes for 1-2h for a total of two weeks when I want perfect sets.
    I'm currently having a bigger issue of a lack of 1costs more than 3costs or 4costs due to not farming overworld anymore. Traces take far more waveplates but its a finite grind, so its completely fine.

  • @datboi5778
    @datboi5778 13 дней назад +5

    THIS CHANGES NOTHING!

  • @jayN_21
    @jayN_21 13 дней назад +3

    Okay expecting some new emails coming from devs

  • @Kyle81290
    @Kyle81290 13 дней назад +1

    Where are the people that kept saying "it will get better at higher level"?

  • @HehehexDD
    @HehehexDD 13 дней назад +7

    game is going to die simply from the huge power creep. it's only the 3rd limited and the character is already busted beyond belief compared to the rest of the 5 star roster.

    • @Larikalful
      @Larikalful 13 дней назад +2

      Yeah, thats what i'm afraid of. I pulled for Jinhsi because i wanted spectro dps... but now i kinda regret it. Turns out that she's so busted that i kill most enemies before even finishing her rotation. Hell, my Encore had dedicated echo set, 5 star standard weapon, leveled up talents and still can't even compare.
      I wish that i could glimpse year into future to see if it gets to ToF levels of powercreep. Because right now it certainly seems so.

    • @asahii8409
      @asahii8409 8 дней назад

      Stop crying and go fight holograms since you kill everything so easily I’m tired of people making excuses if your killing shit so easily go fight a lvl 90 hologram but I bet none of you even have the skill to complete it.

    • @HehehexDD
      @HehehexDD 8 дней назад

      @@asahii8409 you don't need skill when you two shot the boss. 🤣

    • @ekantaaditya4388
      @ekantaaditya4388 7 дней назад

      @@HehehexDD you absolutely don't two shot any hologram or ToA bosses even at the same level

    • @HehehexDD
      @HehehexDD 6 дней назад

      @@ekantaaditya4388 ever heard of an exaggeration? I swear yall gacha gamers are unable to catch social ques.

  • @PrinceMarthX
    @PrinceMarthX 13 дней назад +16

    Repost
    It takes 2413 greens to fully max a character. (67 gold, 55 purple, 28 blue and 25 green)
    A UL60 run usually gives between 39-48 greens in value (depending whether you get 2 purples or not). Let's say 43 is the average.
    That's 57 runs to max a character. 2280 waveplates. 9.5 days.
    This is without lucky gold drops. Every gold that drops saves you 26 waveplates.
    46 boss drops needed. Let's say 4.5 is the average. 11 runs. 660 waveplates. 2.7 days.
    To level a character to 90, get all their skills to 10 with all nodes unlocked, it's around 12 days of farming.
    It takes 1477 greens to fully max a character in Star Rail. (139 purple, 69 blue and 18 green)
    On the average 60 trailblaze power (6x run) gives 24 greens in value.
    That's 62 6x runs to max a character. 3720 trailblaze power. 15.5 days
    This is without factoring in lucky purple drops. Every purple that drops saves you 23 trailblaze power.
    65 boss drops needed. 5 per run with no rng. 13 runs. 390 trailblaze power. 1.6 days.
    To level a character to 80, get all their skills to 10 with all nodes unlocked, it's around 17 days of farming.
    Realistically, you could shave off a day or so off this because purples do drop more frequently than wuwa's gold. A little over 10 purples saves you 24 hours of trailblaze power.
    Wuwa feels worse because of the gold material (which doesn't exist in HSR) but it's actually faster. Which is surprising. So the speed of which you can develop your characters isn't a problem. Unless you think it's a problem in HSR too.
    People are too hyper focused on the purple and missing gold drops and don't realize the blues make up 50% or more of your total materials. A UL60 drop of: 1 purple, 8 blue and 6 green. That's 39 greens and Blues make up 61% of the total with 24. 39 greens is actually the exact same value as 4 purples and 3 greens. If you saw 4 purples drop, you'd be ecstatic. Well.. that's what you're getting. You just don't realize it.

    • @darkgrundi9543
      @darkgrundi9543 13 дней назад +6

      UPVOTE THIS SHIT SO EVERYONE SEES IT.

    • @devildante9
      @devildante9 13 дней назад +1

      You didn't include the shell/credit costs in your calculation. You should also include how much XP/money you get from dailies, or from completing an XP/relic run.
      Also you can auto trash equipment every easily in HSR to get more XP, I don't remember if you can do that in WuWa. We should consider all these factors before concluding which one allows you to level up characters faster.

    • @Kramer8
      @Kramer8 13 дней назад +1

      ​​@@devildante9 Isn't shell cost is very cheap rn?
      That's just players managing issue.

    • @andysabur4966
      @andysabur4966 13 дней назад +3

      "wuwa feels worse..but faster"
      I kinda noticed this during the very early of wuwa. started playing gacha this year, hsr then this. Started hsr on 2.1, loved the story, didnt care for equipment till world 4 (i dont remember any gold relics in world 3 and only a few in world 4) then tb lvl 50(?) went and farm a bit of caverns just for my dps. meanwhile i was getting gold echoes by week 4 of wuwa (plus the event rewards with choosing which element bonus) and now enough decent gold echoes for 3 units and i can 12/30 ToA. HSR MoC im currently on 15/36 and PF 6/12
      seems like wuwa's problem is the feel. they gave us access to endgame absurdly fast then grinding it out is only kinda better so we complain about the bad feels.

    • @kuratse205
      @kuratse205 13 дней назад

      based. Wuwa is just really really fast. You explore fast, you get echoes fast, you level characters fast. Then you find out that you have nothing more you can do, unlike the slow repetitive grind of HSR where you just auto and ignore for months.

  • @nieczshe
    @nieczshe 13 дней назад +1

    lots of mats are coming from events and point shops, wuwa is going for heavy fomo economy

  • @dantae9537
    @dantae9537 13 дней назад +7

    Guys iam ul 52 and got golden ball in the forgery challenge ill probably never get 1 again anytime soon 😂

    • @AqilaRarasati-yq9lx
      @AqilaRarasati-yq9lx 13 дней назад +1

      After that don't pull for a long time 😂

    • @afrapereira1933
      @afrapereira1933 13 дней назад

      I get golden actually pretty often 😅 I don’t know how they didn’t got any damn…

    • @darkgrundi9543
      @darkgrundi9543 13 дней назад

      i actually got 1 golden drop 2 times on UL 40, did not see one yet on 50 tho.

  • @yogandi8922
    @yogandi8922 13 дней назад +1

    new meme thumbnail just dropped

  • @sirinkaslana6237
    @sirinkaslana6237 8 дней назад

    YOOOOOO U HIT 100KKK LIKE THATS SO SO COOL

  • @marcuskane1040
    @marcuskane1040 13 дней назад +8

    Don't worry, they will "listen again" after beyond terrible earnings of next banner 🤣🤣💀

  • @Toasty_10
    @Toasty_10 13 дней назад +4

    Free pulls incoming guysssss

  • @k.h6635
    @k.h6635 13 дней назад +9

    "Devs listen" goes coping hard at this point

  • @CzDelta92
    @CzDelta92 13 дней назад +3

    genshin has 1 more world level but you are already getitng max rewards from domains and same in hsr so this system is the same, thats the cap for domain rewards only the world gets harder, kinda crazy that it doesnt improve over the last tier doe, waste of time fighting harder bosses.

  • @_an1s_
    @_an1s_ 10 дней назад +1

    Hot take :
    Echo domains and and echo system in general are great they need no change
    Ppl who are complaining want to buil 20 characters in 1 patch that's it
    Probably 60 fule per domain is bwd but you already get alot of echos while mintpicking + illusive relam and events has free echos
    F2p here with 62/250 cdmg calcharo s0r0
    67/280 s0r1 jiyan and my supporters are built well
    Lucky? No i just farmed alot and managed my stuff better than people and i still have 17 fule refresh saved

  • @chinnerchilla
    @chinnerchilla 13 дней назад

    When I used 20 cubes and got like 100 purple xp and 40mish golds, I was shocked at how fast they drained I maybe lvld up like 2-3 echos it sucks.

  • @oog_y
    @oog_y 13 дней назад +1

    Bro look like Tooru in the thumbnail😂😂

  • @XenoWars
    @XenoWars 5 дней назад

    Could also be that maybe Tacet Fields stop at UL 50. They just start immediately without a difficulty right?

  • @reidenar
    @reidenar 13 дней назад +2

    I mean in all this why even tuners are a thing? It just complicates things. Also they could give us 2 rows prerolled at least. Whats funny they took all the systems from genshin/hsr and only one they changed was echos which is the main point of contemption.

  • @allanamaya540
    @allanamaya540 13 дней назад

    Me here with 68 solvents waiting for union level 60 or max to use them to get the most benefit out them, might just use them now 😅

  • @TheZanzou
    @TheZanzou 13 дней назад +1

    Yeah, back at union level 30s this is not what I was hoping for with the growth rate of materials over world tiers.

  • @user-vl3pr4yx9j
    @user-vl3pr4yx9j 13 дней назад +1

    “Tacet field drops increase.” They said. Where are the “wait till higher union level 🤓☝️” gang at?

  • @paubalid7897
    @paubalid7897 3 дня назад

    kuro: we now got your money so we no longer need to listen. we on top now and we're the cool kids so we call the shots now.

  • @itsmeminz274
    @itsmeminz274 13 дней назад +3

    Everything is ok for me but only thing i want is echo exp coz. Jinshi came home but I can't able to play her coz i dont have good echo set most of the time def def% and HP and all exp gone in a minute.😅

  • @Bakagii
    @Bakagii 13 дней назад

    I feel like dropping 10 exp mats is pretty fair considering it takes a lot of those to raise an echo. On top of not being able to feed echoes to level up other echoes

  • @TheSpeedygonzalaz
    @TheSpeedygonzalaz 13 дней назад

    I got a gold trace 2 runs in a row at UL 40 after patch 1.1 launched. I thought devs listened but turns out I used all my rng on those 2 runs

  • @matthewpranataa
    @matthewpranataa 13 дней назад +1

    its ok we just need to wait for their zzz damage control

  • @lifelessgamingmy
    @lifelessgamingmy 13 дней назад +1

    Wait, even echoes of war give 3 right?

  • @vladys001
    @vladys001 13 дней назад

    I just hit UL50, so will be waiting for the rewards improvement in the future

    • @user-rb7hu3km4z
      @user-rb7hu3km4z 10 часов назад

      And I don't and planning take things slow

  • @virtuethom7258
    @virtuethom7258 13 дней назад +2

    The forge reward already quite lacking tbh.. barely do any tacet cz it cost 60... I can barely hold for forge stuff..

  • @darkadia6520
    @darkadia6520 13 дней назад +1

    So wouldn't it be more efficient to lower the phase level then if the rewards stay the same?

    • @Larikalful
      @Larikalful 13 дней назад

      Not really, unless you're struggling with killing monsters

  • @Atsushi-pc9et
    @Atsushi-pc9et 13 дней назад +3

    I’m a casual, but like, what.

  • @mactavish5500
    @mactavish5500 13 дней назад +2

    Saying that fob is lying in unfair tho, he just repeat what the game said, no?

  • @VinceGoesEV
    @VinceGoesEV 13 дней назад

    I first i was like augh only purple drop from forgery then i just remember if u get guaranted gold then u need only like 240 energy to max out an entire character skill tree since u dont need that many to max them at least as far as i can see

  • @O1CTV
    @O1CTV 13 дней назад +1

    genuinely diabolical

  • @shynan252
    @shynan252 13 дней назад +5

    Tuners to energy cost is possibly the wackiest payoff ever, they need to fix that at UL60 too tf

  • @godfathergaming_1
    @godfathergaming_1 7 дней назад +1

    they messed up now they gonna give compensation😂

  • @louisarnebQP
    @louisarnebQP 13 дней назад +1

    i don't know guys are you all complaining about tuners, I'm playing since launch and i never had a problem with their amount, still have around 1000 of them. I fully built only 5 characters to hae 25lvl each echo and its still enough for me and i wouldn't say my luck with tuning was outstanding, just okayish. The exp potions are the worst part, no? 60stamina for 3 gold ones is a joke

  • @ScriptumChannel
    @ScriptumChannel 13 дней назад +1

    This is basically empty game, you understand it after 40 level, when you have max Echo, you can farm best Echos and actually it is literally no changes till the 100 level except minor changes. And they try to make this path to 100 level even longer because they understand that it is empty and hope you to stay before 100 level as longer as they can.

  • @absolutelyabsolute4671
    @absolutelyabsolute4671 13 дней назад +1

    Reducing the waveplate cost by 20 will make the game better, trust me.

  • @analoque2412
    @analoque2412 13 дней назад +7

    This game has good early-game content and (maybe) endgame, but Kuro really forget that players spend most of their time in the midgame and they make it frustratingly bad.

  • @misterPr0x1ma18
    @misterPr0x1ma18 6 дней назад

    Would be nice if they increase the tacet rewards a bit and add 3pcs crystal solvent as part of completing dailies along with the 2000 xp.

  • @Kaoz007full
    @Kaoz007full 13 дней назад

    Since the beginning of the game I've been saying about the stamina cost is simply too high

  • @Dzukari
    @Dzukari 13 дней назад

    6:08 I feel a storm brewing.

  • @user-dx6tm9xg5n
    @user-dx6tm9xg5n 8 дней назад

    Either they give us the promised Waveplate Storage system or drop the energy requirements to a minimum, like 40 for TFs and 30 for Forge and Simulations. Also increase the rewards and make the yellow drops more frequent in UL50.

  • @Ray_joy
    @Ray_joy 13 дней назад +2

    Thanks for the video, I will never reach level 60, the drops are like dog shit

  • @meh2572
    @meh2572 13 дней назад +1

    Every characters only need few so not an issue to me enough to make me quit

  • @Ssecave
    @Ssecave 13 дней назад

    yeahhh I'm gonna stay with lvl 80 (sol lvl 6 ?, the one where 80 is the max). Less grindy for new characters and not as hard. Tacet fields should cost 30, so you can do 4x of them with 120 then do 1 boss and 2 forgery if you wait a bit during the day. Would be a good balance to do stuff in general.

  • @darika3672
    @darika3672 8 дней назад

    As much as i want to spend for future characters, why will i pull a new character when i am not finished with my Jiyuan, Jinshi, Yinlin and other characters?
    Can't imagine to pull Scar and start from scratch leveling him up to match my current strong characters.

  • @Berserk...-_-
    @Berserk...-_- 13 дней назад

    Не стоит забывать про ивенты в патче на ресурсы, поэтому сложно сказать, присутствует ли тут баланс. Мне кажется было бы слишком жирно требовать, что бы мы могли собрать персонажа за несколько дней фарма. В том же ХСР мы фармим целый месяц + -, что бы с нуля одеть персонажа до максимума. Стоит посчитать ресурсы и выявить сколько потребуется дней, что бы возвысить персонажа до 90 лвл, возвысить оружие до 90 лвл и навыки до 10 лвл, добавить фарм эхо, но при этом нужно учитывать ивенты на ресурсы примерно. Это сложно, но возможно не все так плохо как кажется😅 Так же не стоит забывать, что у нас еще только старт игры и поэтому с течением времени будет больше ресурсов, больше ивентов, лучше награды. На сколько я помню в ХСР на старте игры было очень тяжело развиваться тоже)) В добавок ко всему, в дальнейшем у нас будут копиться ресурсы и мы уже не будем замечать какую-то нехватку.

  • @pitwandesu2459
    @pitwandesu2459 13 дней назад

    Need the daily 3/3 double drop as permanent feature

  • @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
    @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor 13 дней назад +1

    After maxing my characters I will still be in no rush to farm echoes. Especially when I can roll 5 BASIC FLAT STATS overall.
    Why can I hit two of the same flat stats from the main stat.
    4 step RNG: 50/50 getting the correct echo drop. 50/50 correct element. 1/10 correct main stats.
    1/10 correct substat. Then we have to get the mats...

    • @kuratse205
      @kuratse205 13 дней назад

      It's not that hard, just wait until you get the right main stat (only 4costs take actual time to get), then roll to +15 and toss if bad. Remember, crit rolls are FAR more valuable than any other substat. Double crit rolls are worth infinitely more than anything else you could get.

    • @TSH425
      @TSH425 13 дней назад

      ​@@kuratse205what do u mean 4* are the easiest to get since u can infinitely farm them and their main stats are less than 3*, 3* are the problem because the rng on them is absolutely terrible, have a shit ton of main stats, shit ton of sub stats u can legit go an entire day without getting 1 usuable 3* (based on the main stat alone) but atleast with 4* u will always end the day with atleast 1 good peace(based on main stat alone)

    • @kuratse205
      @kuratse205 13 дней назад

      @@TSH425 TFs at high world level only drops 3costs and Echo selectors are abundant. You dont need as high crit rolls for 3costs than you need for 4costs and 1costs, and you'd roll 3costs to +20 regardless unlike 1 and 4costs that you discard after +10

  • @sarpant
    @sarpant 5 дней назад

    guys i got a gold one from the level 70 instance yesterday btw

    • @sarpant
      @sarpant 5 дней назад

      this prolly because gold is possible in most just rate increases higher up,i was lucky

  • @Bigman85534
    @Bigman85534 13 дней назад

    Let’s hope they change

  • @Daniel-ik6wi
    @Daniel-ik6wi 13 дней назад

    I want whatever serra is having