Sony Xperia 1 VI - This Is A Rant NOT A Review...
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- Over a week in with the Sony Xperia 1 Vi and there's some things I just want to get off my chest. The full review will be coming in future but I'm interested to hear from other Xperia users their thoughts on the changes to this phone.
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Good rant. Sometimes I just don't understand these companies and the moves they make.
Thanks. It's dangerous for a company like Sony as they have few users as it is. I already want to go back to the previous phone lol
There were many vocal reviewers and influencers on the internet who loves to complain about Sony Xperia. At the beginning they complained about the name being too long (which is really not), the screen is narrow, having three camera apps instead of just one etc.... And now, Sony changed everything to fit their taste, but those people those reviewers now can't even bothered to review the mark6 !
Speaking of apps, I really, really like the camera pro app. It makes you want to use the camera and it inspires creation. It was a big reason why I picked up the Xperia 1 ii. The new camera app on the mark iv, of course the features are still there, but it lacks the "flare". As you rightly put it, the camera app is so generic now and just look like any other phone. And when other phones were offering better hardware, it is even a harder sale to pick a Sony over other brand.
Exactly my thoughts. Appreciate the comment.
So good to see an honest review!!! Amazing work! Enough of paid reviews by Sony. I really wanted to buy that phone
Not a review! Lol but thank you. The review itself will come in good time. I like to use phones for at least a few weeks before doing that.
It's very difficult getting info you can trust that's for sure.
@@GroundedTechDid the camera, video, and photography apps on previous versions have monthly or annual subscription?
@th3976 no.
A great piece of video, mate!
Sony seems to be a bit lost in what they really want to do.
On one hand, they want to cater for a broader audience with their smartphones (hence the change of camera app, screen ratio, etc), but on the other hand they aren't able to deliver hardware+software that would justify the price for a common smartphone user.
I think that if you have your niche, and cater for that niche, you don't have to be the best all-rounder to keep your clients.
But once you try to appeal for a "standard user" and drop this one thing that made you special, you'll drown in the sea of other devices doing the same.
"You'll either die as a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain", or something along those lines. 🤷♂
Absolutely. It happens with things like videogames too. They try and make their game "more appealing" by making it easier or increasingly simplistic, but that can turn off the core fan base who wanted a hard as nails and complicated game.
They just never learn.
Had the phone for around a week plus. LOVE THE PHONE. For the camera application, I prefer it this new interface. The Photo pro app still has Alpha camera Function menu so its still great. For the display, I tried hard to squint 4K RUclips video comparison with my Xperia 1V, I can only see a really tiny bit of difference. I really prefer the brighter display especially Sunlight vision under sunny day. Difference in brightness comparison is really there. The 1VI also has Vapour Chamber which helps cool the phone even better, as well as UFS 4.0 compared to UFS 3.1 on the Xperia 1V. SD 8Gen3 is faster. Also love the telemacro which 1V did not have, and the 2X lossless. Its longer optical zoom also outperform the 1V. Longer battery life, better speakers. Better bluetooth through my WF-1000XM5 as well. So all in all, Its one step backward, many steps forward for me. What I preferred was the slimmer body of the 1V produces a better grip, other than that I'm not missing my Xperia 1V one bit.
Thanks for that. Really appreciate the comment.
I feel rather underwhelmed for some reason. Can't put my finger on why. I have to say the 2x crop zoom is excellent.
It's why I'm not rushing into a review. I need to gather my thoughts better.
Thanks Bloodytoad.
excuse me. how do you know for certain xperia 1 IV has ufs 3.1...
it was a big hot topic some while ago
@@JoeGillian0 even the 1v houses UFS 3.1 so what do you think 1IV has chance of using UFS 4.0?
@@GroundedTechhumans just also like to be part of a group so be careful. You might just be getting influenced by others and the media. I'm not doubting the points you made in your video though.
@orangeyellow-me1pz I don't get influenced by the media. No need to when I own the phone myself. And I never try to be part of the group that's for sure. I'd be doing much better these days if I did 😅
I'm still bummed to see the loss of 21:9 screen. That is still a great screen for one-handed use and cinematic video binge.
As for the camera, as much as I love the new longer tele cam, it desperately needs a bigger sensor. Sony used to do it before in the Mk3 Xperia 1/5. Also, I stick with the standalone Pro apps instead of the refreshed stock Camera app for the time being.
I want to keep an Xperia for video work so I may end up getting an Xperia 5 V.
Excellent points raised, I was seriously considering getting 1 VI after believing the hype about battery life and tele macro, but this video dissuaded me from doing so. Just not worth it at this price. Thanks for saving me money.
No problem. I think once it comes down a few hundred it would be worth it. The battery is truly excellent.
They could have at least gone to 1440p, come on...
Yeah that would have been ideal. It's perfectly fine though. It sips battery so I think that's why they went that route.
Nice video Dan, happy to see you here
Thanks man. I've been slacking the past month.
I got mine, 1 Mark VI over a week ago and I m still experimenting. About the yet missing app... can't we download it anyway from the app store? about JPG... if you don't shoot multiple , you can use jpg AND / OR RAW... in PRO mode, of course. I think a simple software update con easily solve this.
Unfortunately not. They purposely removed it. I sideloaded the APK and they just didn't work correctly. It's a shame.
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A friend of mine did it for me.
@@GroundedTech I see, if you or anyone you know need a logo, let me know! I can craft logo that not just for form but there is meaning in it too, form and function equally important for me! :-D
The issue going down from 4k to 1080p isn't the resolution itself it's the pixel density. Even though the 1 III(the last Sony phone I had) was mostly at 1080p things looked more crisp than on a quad HD panel even. Plus you can size the text to fit even more of it on the screen
Yes I believe I mentioned that aspect. The screen is ok. It just isn't as good for looking at your 4K content etc.
i would welcome 1080p except for the fact that the downgrade is not reflected in the price
@_lisan_al_gaib indeed. It isn't a super high quality 1080p screen from what I can tell but it's extremely energy efficient.
Even more important than pixel density is pixel spacing. A 1080 screen can appear very sharp and indistinguishable from 4K at that size and distance. People are judging it by sticking their noses into it, but no one uses a phone like that.
I'd prefer a longer battery life than bragging rights.
@lukastemberger I'm definitely not sticking my nose into it lol I'm no pixel peeper.
It's fine for general use. It's more about the content you record and playback etc.
Wasn't the camera flash made like that on purpose?
I have no idea. But if it was I'm not sure why 🤔
I really want to try an Xperia but hearing your review it seems like I need to wait a year or two for them to figure things out both camera hardware wise and camera software wise.
Great video Dan, I'd be very disappointed had I gotten this phone for its telephoto.
In a world where Vivo, Xiaomi and Oppo exist and offer such great camera hardware, it's a shame to see Sony charging more for less
I'm hopeful next year will be that device. Software is more preferential I guess but it was so good before.
The camera hardware just needs to get better.
We love a good rant from our Dan!
Yeah you do.
How would you compare the Sony Xperia 1 V to the 1 Vi? It is frustrating that Sony made this phone to appeal to a wider variety of consumers, and they don't offer it in the states. How does that make sense.
I don't understand their reasoning for dropping the US and I believe China.
I think the V has the nicer feeling to it with the aspect ratio and the 120fps all the time. It just feels smoother. Otherwise the 1 VI is the better phone hands down apart from the camera software.
Sony's idea of "getting back in the game" is giving up on what made Xperia unique. Just my thoughts on camera app is that sony should have combined the video pro + cinema pro for video and kept the photography pro and given the basic and auto modes better Ai for low light and specially detail recovery for that tiny zoom sensor .the camera on the 1 vi just seems half backed also on a side note where's slow motion? at least not even 240fps the old Xperia 1 2019 has 1080p@960fps but the new ones have only 120fps. It's like they take 2 steps front and 3 steps back
On the 120fps side it's native and in 4K which gives you the ability to do whatever you want with it in the edit. Would be nice to have some extra options though that's true.
I agree with everything else you said. I don't think they have a clear vision of what they're doing anymore.
@@GroundedTech yh the slow motion thing is pretty small but that zoom quality doesn't really seem excusable for a phone that price
@keshanwaidyanayake2056 yeah the zoom quality is the thing I feel really let down with. I didn't want extended range we just needed a larger sensor.
Improved production quality but there's a constant hissing sound.
Overall great review (or rant lol).
Sad to know that they removed the Pro apps.
Lol thanks. Yeah I don't know why there's a hissing sound when the camera app is open. Think it was there on the 1 V as well. Weird.
Build quality just as good as last year tbh.
I think a big part of it is being so undershelmed, knowing the device sony are capable of putting out there (like you say for the money). Its a nice phone and does everthing well but doesn't excite me much sadly.
Yeah I agree. I really liked the 1 V. This phone just needed to build on that but instead they made unnecessary changes whilst not changing the things that actually needed changing.
sony does need an external western company to make their software more user friendly. + keep the seperate pro apps. but to be expected with a new app tbh, they will improve in time.
Just seems like a weird step back with the software. We'll see how things are once the Android 15 camera update arrives.
@@GroundedTech yes true. Even though the cameras have always been a bit worse than the competition when it comes to quality.(Most of the time ) I would still choose sony just because headphone jack, sd card, magnificent splitscreen options( side sense) . Enough reason to choose sony over other brands. Im okee with a bit less camera quality.
@namelesssnitchy yeah they have in many respects but they made good use of it. The Exmor T sensor is very good. Putting one of those in the telephoto would have been excellent.
Really? Had you tested if you save more money by using phone flashlight and not ceiling light if you do it most of the time, technically it should be right but is it comfortable and do you live with anyone to able to do this as you like?
Lol that's interesting. I live with my wife and she's terrible for leaving lights on 😅
@@GroundedTech hahaha I see
Great video, in put off buying this device so far. I really like the old camera apps and so moving away from that is really disappointing with regards to the screen, I haven’t seen it yet from what I’ve heard. There isn’t a major difference and it’s a good quality panel, I’m loving all of the compliments around the battery life. I’m still debating whether to take the plunge.
Thanks. What are you running currently? It would have been nice if we had the option to use the alternative layout like being able to switch between.
I’m on the iPhone 15 pro at the minute. Always been a loyal Sony fan since I was a kid. The iPhone works as a solid reliable all rounder for me but I’m tempted to switch. Also I agree, who at sony is making some of these decisions, it really is baffling why they got rid of the pro camera apps.
@ASilver526 I had the 15 Pro for a few months and really liked it tbh. Hoping to get one again at some point.
I've been trying to understand Sony for over a decade with the Xperia phones they do one good thing and take two steps back but,charge top prices,ive the 1 iv, and i was going to upgrade to the 6 but i will definitely not be upgrading to the 6 at this price point.
The 1 IV is solid other than the overheating issues once you push it. The 1 VI would probably be a decent upgrade from that but the VII will definitely be the one to go for once the price drops a touch.
I use a Mac and prefer iOS, but Xperia 1 VI when in ood light and you make it in low light, the inage quakity looks natural, plus it has the 2X macro, I like to explore the macro world and i like to take adtistic pictures but in macro world there is not much variation to do unique artistic photo, if i want to explore the small world i can just google it isn't it, should i just get the iohone 16 / 16 Pro or still get Xperia 1 VI, i will lose airdrop tho its not essential, but there is garageband i can play with on ios, not sure yet
It's a very different experience and tbh unless you intend to make use of the different features the iPhone 16 Pro should be the better all-round choice.
@@GroundedTech i see, but do you know well about latest iOS, can I set a custom lut or tone or the picture to be more realistic and each time I open the camera app, it will take at that custom tone, if not then if I have to set the realistic tone each time then it will be time consuming and not ideal
You'll get a more natural look from the Sony. iPhone would be a case of shooting in RAW and editing to get that look.
@@GroundedTech I see, hmmm, I haven't got the money for one yet tho, can't even afford a hard drive right now, if you know some freelance works, let me know!
@NetvoTV I don't I'm afraid but hope you find some soon. Good luck! 🤞🏻
My LG G3 from 2014 had 1440p on a smaller screen. Why 1080p on a crazy expensive flagship from 2024
The panels are much better quality now tbf but yeah I still wanted minimum 1440p.
I agree, it feels at the moment more mainstream, and indeed, the periscope needed an improvement
They're determined to kill Xperia off it seems 😅
Agreed, keep the 3 apps, and have this as a 4th one
i have the 4th app on my Xperia 1 V, seems to work well as well despite i cannnot launch it with the power / shutter buttons
@JoeGillian0 yeah the annoying thing is the three apps from last year don't work on the 1 VI. I installed Videography Pro and the UI didn't fit properly.
A 1.5k screen (yes it's the minimum today, and above all, Samsung was criticized for years for its S+ which were "just FHD"), 4 years minimum of Android update (but the smartphone must be released in February at the latest, not 2-3 months before the new Android version and especially the new Snapdragon) because there, it's no longer even 3 years of updating but 2 years in real life, a 1" main sensor, better video stabilization, keeping its niche features (Pro Camera) by adding mainstream features ( good auto camera like on iPhones, Galaxy and other smartphones), a "really" good telescopic zoom, and above all a price of $1000- $1100 max, there, Sony will be able to get back into the game.
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I actually think the mistake is Sony trying to "get back into the game". It's not possible for them at this stage.
@GroundedTech Quite the contrary, I even think it's the right time for Sony to come back, but not by wanting to impose its vision on consumers.
The points I mentioned are the real criticisms made by real consumers (I am the owner of a store selling smartphones and the like), beyond a certain price point, customers want a certain minimum quality of hardware, software and above all software monitoring.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I see where you're coming from I just don't think it's possible for them.
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Dont get me wrong sony will be coming again with mega new phone with 4k apple have been doing but sony deliver better
I hope so.
@@GroundedTech I have been researching and looking forward people never noticed the GHz screen display on Apple phone 😂 they delivering so low but putting down only high GHz on the Apple selling high rate GHz on pro Mx only but people never put light on the side have you ever checked how strong is the signal Sony is deliverubg it it helping me a lot in my office work in very basic work the Bluetooth and wife connection apple have been delivering so low coverage on Apple WiFi as well no one now's they just run for the brand but Sony is doing everything to keep things minimal simple classic on tech I hope people should know manual thing is knowledge we need to know learn everything automatic is not 🚫 what we learn simple logic
This is the only phone I know that really replaces a point and shoot camera. The others are either so big that one can not hold them comfortably for shooting, have a screen too dim to shoot in the summer sun, have too short battery life to use them for a whole day of gps and shooting (which is normal use case on a trip) or have AF only usable for static objects.
I don't know what you are drinking.
Lots of phones can replace a point and shoot camera. Every other phone at this price point has better camera hardware. Other phones also have very good AF.
Nothing you said there is true. Stay off the whiskey.
@@GroundedTech It's about the combo. If a smartphone is so large that I can't put it in the same pocket _instead_ of my normal phone and use it onehandedly just like my normal phone , then I am better off with a dedicated point-and-shoot. The same goes if I can't use it for the whole day of a city sightseeing because the battery is empty after 5 hours of gps+ camera usage. Then I have no gps and no camera at the end of the day. Why should I buy a phone as expensive as a rx100 if I can't see anything in the sunlight, or if I can only use it for a couple of hours as a camera because battery? It defies the purpose, then it's better to just take your basic iPhone and bring a dedicated point and shoot with you. With those other "flagships", if I shoot all day, at the end of the day the battery is empty and I have neither a phone nor a camera. Yeah powerbank, now I have a phone that I can't put in my pocket, which I have to hold with both hands while shooting and a powerbank in my pocket. I'm still better off with a more basic phone and a dedicated p&s.
And also, tracking AF can never be good enough. Even with Sony you'll miss shots.
I am extremely sure that the sales of those camera flagships would skyrocket if they would have normal size and more durable batteries, just like Sony delivered this time. Creator or not, everybody would like to have a better camera on his phone, but the size and the battery life due to screen sizes and resolutions are just too prohibitive.
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I just don't know how that relates to what I said about the 1 VI and why you're implying I must be drunk.
The 1 V is an easier phone to use in that respect due to the aspect ratio. The one saving grace of the 1 VI is that battery life.
I'd like more phones to go the Xperia route in form factor too but it's fair to say in terms of software and processing those other phones do some things better than Xperia. The price of this needed to be lower. A better telephoto sensor I would have been happy enough.
The camera app is onley for you the 99% of users don't care about that look at the seales in the past it is beather this way
I don't think it has had any effect on sales. But all of the Xperia users I know aren't happy with the change. Some are even sticking with the V.
So I guess you buy phones just for a screen)
If Sony wont tell there is no more 4K most of you would never notice.
Stop it.
I said the screen is fine. Did you even listen?
If I bought a phone for the screen I'd be buying a Samsung.
I'll stick with my xperia 1V..
I'd like to do the same. Maybe even get a 5 V.
people will always find something to complain about
We should just be happy with everything shouldn't we.