How To Get Your Narcissist to Therapy ("Granny Fanny Cris" Method)
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2023
- Narcissists attend therapy if: 1. It caters to their grandiosity; 2. It fits well with the shared fantasy; and 3. They have hit rock bottom. The therapist must amplify the narcissist's pathologies in order to get rid of them.
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I'll rather walk away than try to get the narcissist to do anything. My mental health well-being is important to me.
Its the right way
What if your narcissist IS a therapist!!!
Absolutely destructive process… for me.
LEFT. NO CONTACT. Now the work of slowly healing from this mind bending nightmare.
When you have an adult child draining your funds, he is "your narcissist " and you want him to get help and get a life. But they don't want help, they want to be a victim and blame shift. Its mommy and daddy's fault so they have to pay till they die...
I’d much rather to have a dog than a pet narcissist 😂😂. They surely can be adorable 🥰, but dogs are faithful creatures. Narcissists… not so much 😉. You are hilarious, doc. Cheers from Brasil !!!
Hi Sam. Thanks for a great presentation as always. If the narcissist can survive the death of their false self, is it possible for them to trust reality and become born again as their authentic self? If they no longer fear reality, can they learn to enjoy it?
Thank you for the humor. I enjoyed watching this.
Thank you!
Love it :) 😀 😃 🙂 🙃
🙋🏻♀️ Dr. Vaknin,
Narcissist are said to see people as extensions of themselves. I understand that this means that other only serve to fulfill their needs. In a sense they still have an umbilical cord attached.
I think I ran into a narcissist. He wanted to have because he thought I was pretty. When I started to reveal myself he started to become more abusive and controlling. If I never said anything he was mostly calm but still following me everywhere.
How would I be considered supply to a narcissist if I just ignored him. I ignored my stalker even when he said hi in the hallways. Why was he still following me? How was I still narcissist supply?
You were a challenge
What's the point of all this hard work if theraphy won't do any good, for the narc won't self reflect nor hold his end of the rope
There is no hard work that would require honesty and that's not going to
Hello Sam. Thank you for your incisive and elucidative explanations. I appreciate how you inject this depressing subject with humor; it makes the information much more digestible. You could have been a stand-up comedian. I have 3 questions:
1. Would neuro feedback and EMDR be effective, non-threatening therapies for narcissists to start with? Would they not experience a lowering of intense emotion/ anxiety/ emptiness?
2. Is there data of spiritual faith impacting the narcissist?
3. Do you believe that there are different levels or gradations of narcissism, or once a person has 5 of the 9 traits, he or she is ´in the club’ even if their narcissism may not be as obvious as that of others?
Thank you.
I have one answer: search my channel.
would be great to have straightforward answers, what I'd say for 2 is you could look at research ie google scholar and go by number of citations and look at main studies' data perhaps. for 3. what I know is that there is a spectrum of narc traits, but having the actual disorder is different. and having it, it would still have prevalent types and those expressed depending on other factors. professor has videos on covert, overt etc. I came across.
I tried once what you are suggesting but when it came to book the appointment he didn’t accept it 😢
thoughts. I like the humour. clever content. I would worry about the reality of competency of therapists out there compared to this level A WHOOOOOOOOOLE LOT. not to discourage but I've had lower expectations crushed for situations I would consider simpler than NPD. and, so, it would be an acting and performance theatrical challenge or task. I do wonder really, what percentage of the population would have NPD. not traits, but the disorder. could we ever know?
My x narc sought therapy on his own I think for depression. That therapist indulged his fantasy. According to my x narc that therapist and my x decided that couples therapy may be in order as it might have been me and my anger issues that were the problem. The therapist we got referred to - after seeing us for about a year confronted my x and told him he was on the narcissistic spectrum. My x thought he was her equal and that the point of this therapy was for he and the therapist to fix me. He discarded me during that therapy. That same therapist agreed to see me individually after the discard. She told me he needed a lot of work and was happy for me that he was gone. She said she knew his therapist that h saw individually before couples therapy and told me she wouldn’t confront him. Yet she would and did. Was that for my benefit only? I don’t understand why our couples therapist confronted him and made sure he did not see the therapy as her and him against me. But what was the point of that? They don’t get better with confrontation.
Man what drama! Narcissist are wasting everyone’s time.
The next time you see your x narc, say that straight into his stupid idiotic face. “You are a time waster” . He wastes your time, the therapists basically everyone that interacts with him.
She saved you
It was a great thing actually. He was called out by a professional, now he’s out of your hair and you have a therapist who has seen what you’re up against. I’m sorry you went though all of that
Prof Vaknin, do you think that a reverse-challenge such as "you are not brave enough to go to therapy" could work? In your view, it is likely that the narcisist perceives it only as a criticism or could it drive the narcisist to show how wrong I am and how brave he is? thanks
@samvaknin
Search the channel for “reverse”.
Neurologically what is a Narcissist?
There are no rigorous studies to answer your question.
that's what I was thinking lol❤❤
Mine suggested I made the appointment no no I said you're the one with the problem you need to start acknowledging
Waste of time should just manipulate lie and gaslight the therapist after all there's nothing wrong with her she's the victim how dear you suggest she needs