Hyvää Suomi. I am Albanian, and spent some of my childhood in Finland (a lot of people in the Balkans moved there after the wars), and I have nothing but good things to say about Finnish people and society. Although they can be a bit cold, and drink much more than I typically do.
I have been waiting for this... Aimo Lahti was our Browning. A story tells that he got a written permission from Marshal Mannerheim to drink while working. Have to check that out...
Having lived in Finland for a couple of years, and having an interest in Finnish firearms, I always wanted to get a Lahti pistol. Years ago I ran across a dealer at a gun show who had one. I recognized it immediately from it's distinctive shape. It was an original wartime VKT pistol. Just my luck, this was one of those times I was low on cash, and couldn't get it. The same dealer also had an early 1944 marked wartime German P-38, still in it's original holster, undoubtedly brought back to the U.S. back a returning U.S. soldier; another pistol I had been looking for. So not having the money available to buy both these guns was a double whammy of disappointment, and I've never seen another Lahti, or a good wartime P-38 ever again. It may be for the best. Although I had read about Lahti pistol and of their breakdown if fired with hot ammo, I hadn't stopped to check that particular pistol for cracks. It really would have been disappointing to have bought it, gotten it home, and then find a crack in the frame or barrel. Sometime later, when the holster for the swedish gun came on the market, I bought one. It was in good condition, and came with the two extra magazines. I thought I could use these if I ever found another Lahti, since the one I'd seen came with neither holster or spare magazines. Speaking of which, I didn't see this covered for certain in the video, but I am wondering if anyone has definitive knowledge of whether or not swedish magazines will fit and function in the Finnish Lahti.
I dont understand why that was a thing with Finnish weapons, the same thing occured with the first Jatimatic, submachine guns too. "Lets make a pistol... why the hell this shoots full auto!"
I had a Swedish L-35. It quickly developed a crack in the frame where the locking block engaged the barrel extention (under the rear sight), I didn't know about the under powered ammo, but it also looked like a design mistake, in that the recesses had sharp internal corners rather than rounded. This was in 1953.
9:00 This is what Apple does these days. "It's slightly different, and it won't fit. So you'll have to buy our new accessories instead of using the old ones."
Which is why, right from the start years ago I never considered Apple for purchase. They verged on beautiful design but their greed put me right off permanently. Great design, evil company.
@@deltavee2 They've gotten better! Jk their still lobbying to ban repairing iphones and intentionally making parts not work (even from another iphone using part ID voodoo), and then the places licensed to fix the iphone always make it more expensive than actually buying a new one. Same as how Dell pushes tech recycling so people can't just get a older pc for basic tasks.
The hump on the slide was intended to contain a coupling stabilizer, a spring-loaded plunger. The slide assist spring was under the barrel in front part of the frame. Those parts were dropped after the 0-series. The 1. series still had the spaces milled.
By the way, in Swedish service the m/40 was affectionally known as the “Kamrat 40”, translating to “Comrade 40”, at least by us at my artillery regiment, but also by some coastal artillery men I knew
Just saw you on vice news. Your interview was pretty interesting and it was cool to hear your take on all this after watching your videos for so long. I think your videos are great and very educational. Keep up the good work.
@@ForgottenWeapons oh what Vice? VICE??? I would not be surprised if they tried to make you look out as a lover of mass shootings since they are vice and you are associated with guns! But great video keep up the good job!
@@AveragePootis vice is the only of few news people that actually go into wars and shooting, only people I could really find covering the fighting in ukraine and what not.
I'm a sucker for anything Finnish, so thanks very much Ian! I've heard a lot about this gun but never got to see it as in depth as you went. Keep up the amazing content, RUclips be damned!
I owned one of these for a few days... bought it from a company in Quebec online and when it arrived I noticed the slide looked odd. Took it to my gunsmith and he proceeded to show me that there was a hairline crack in the slide running along almost its whole length and ended up splitting the feed-ramp in half. Totally unsafe to fire and not able to be repaired. Thankfully the company/shop gave me a full refund when I returned it. Sadly I haven't seen one since.... they're certainly rare to find in Canada.
Great video! You commented on the quite impressive weight of the gun. In Sweden a common nickname for the gun was "Jarnspisen" which means "The Iron Stove". I guess partly because of the weight, and partly because Husqvarna also manufactured iron stoves. Maybe they still do. They used to make pretty much everything, chain saws, hot dog vending machines, motorcycles, guns, you name it. I know they still make chain saws!
The background reminds me of when I was at my Cousins house in Montreal, back in the 70's ... i was 12 years old and my parents sent me on the train, to stay withy them for a few weeks ... (They and they were rich "city kids" and I lived on a farm in a swamp, in Northern Ontario) They had a fireplace JUST like this, in their living room, (notice it's never been used) Of course growing up on the farm I awake smartly at 6:00 am (sorry i slept in) ... it was a bit chilly (you guessed it) and there was some Birch Logs beside the Fireplace ... I could;t find an axe, but there was a fancy clever in the knife drawer ... :) Well fortunately it was a REAL fireplace ... BUT one of my cousins still called the fire department! :) Legend has it they actually USED the fireplace occasionally after that! :)
The wartime FDF 9mm service load packed a punch.. 124gr @ 1300fps.. Actually the rumour says that particular load was one of the reasons why alloy frame FN service pistols of late decades were quickly shot out of tolerance for using that SMG-ammo meant for Suomi KP-31..
Mordecai Eagle - FN BDAs are just fine, the bad rep comes from the fact that the guns have been misused by tens of thousands of hands during the last almost 30 years of service and they haven't been properly overhauled at any point. I should know, two of our overseas service pistols (FNs) had worn firing pins, and another few had dead hammer springs. Nothing we could do to fix them out there, so we just hung on to our RKs. Can't even imagine how worn all the barrels were.
This was great. True about the structural weakens when using hot ammunition. I used the m/40 occasionally when I did my military service, and since I was also issued with a m/45 SMG, I fired it using the same m/39B 9mm cartridges we loaded in our Carl Gustavs, but that cartridge really was to hot for the pistol.
Well that was interesting, not least because it disproves the claims in two 'authoritative' reference books I've got which both say: 1. The Lahti is very reliable and well-sealed to keep out dirt (no mention of breakages with hot loads), 2. The Lahti is very difficult to disassemble and you shouldn't attempt it without a full tool kit I wonder whether a lot of these reference books just copy each other, i.e. one guy said "Lahtis are hard to dismantle" back in the '60s and everybody's just copied it since without actually checking it by looking at an actual gun? There's certainly evidence of this phenomenon in aircraft reference books...
"Plagiarize! Let no one else's work evade your eyes! Remember why the good Lord _made_ your eyes so don't shade your eyes but plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize! Only be sure always to call it please 'research'." - Tom Lehrer, "Lobachevsky" (1960)
I'll not speak to the issues with running hot loads through - my Swedish M40 has a replacement barrel extension - But I can certainly attest that it will function very nicely at -30 (F or C, they're 'bout the same) temperatures. Frost and snow certainly aren't issues. The only issues I've had are failures to feed with soft-nose (not jacketed) ammunition, and some really, really light reloads. - the high grip angle really demands a jacketed bullet - the round kind of porpoises in. It's certainly a dream to field strip it - like a SIG P220.
Paul Scarlata wrote an excellent article on Lahti pistols, which was published in "Military Surplus 2014." Regarding the M/40 he states, "Type IV pistols had receivers made from high-quality steel by Carl Gustaf in the 1960s and were stronger than the earlier production. They also lacked 'Husqvarna' markings." Mention is also made of the 1955 adoption of a 9mm cartridge (sk ptr 39B), which featured a 106-grain bullet at 1,375 fps. When problems with cracked receivers developed from the use of this ammo, guns were recalled and rebuilt with Type IV Carl Gustaf receivers. A very interesting series of pistols.
Think of it as a Luger with all the unnecessary complication taken out. If you're OK with the weight, it's a very good shooter, and you can count on it to work.
After the war, people would accidentaly shoot the 9mm rounds ment for KP-31 with the L-35 and have them destroyed. There were two types of ammunition, one for the pistols and one for the smg. Ammo ment for pistols were loaded with lower charge and had a green label on front the box and the smg ammo box's had red label, that had much stronger powder charge (about 30-35% stronger than the ammo ment for pistols). You could shoot the pistol ammo with the KP-31, there were stoppages and malfunctions due to the lower load of the ammo.
Oliko se niin että KP-patruunassa oli myös punainen lakkatiiviste hylsyn suulla..? Jos näin niin niitähän sitä räiskittiin FN:n DA'llakin että pölisi.. :D Ainakin ne patruuna-askit mitä availtiin 'Firmassa' -96 oli vuoskymmeniä wanhoja pahviaskeja, vuosilukua en muista.. D166-luodilla ladatut 7,62x53R-patruunat oli ainakin jostain 60-luvulta sen muistan varmasti kun tarkka-ampujana olin.. :D
Kyllä on. Kummallakin patruunalla on/oli oma lakkatiiviste. Lahden alkuperästä patruunaa tuskin enää mistään löydät, mutta KP:n omaa vanhaa sodan ajan latausta löytyy vielä sieltä täältä.
Kaikkee sitä muistaakin.. :D Jooh ne on tulisia pikku napsuja ne.. Pistoolilla ampuessa näyttää hienoa suuliekkiä ja hylsykin lähtee kuin hauki makuulta.. :D
@@Hubert_Cumberdale_ At least in Sweden the the m/39 had black lacquer between the bullet/case and primer while the m/39b had red lacquer so you could easily tell which is which.
Honestly why are machining marks disliked so much by most people? i think they give the guns a really well-made look, no one ever bubba´d the gun up with a polishing wheel (breaking the sharp edges).
TheAngler2210 Because it's a big part of the "finish" in "fit and finish." It's not necessary to polish the exterior of the gun, but most people think the metal surface looks nicer, and like the smooth feel of polished metal. I don't mind machine marks myself, function is what matters. My VZ 58 has them and I love the gun. I also love the high polish blue on the sides of my 1911, though.
Cheap and fast production doesnt necessarily mean poor quality, but efficiency. And to everyone: I ofcourse only meant outer surfaces and surfaces that dont work against anything. You dont want machining marks on your feed ramp, bolt raceways, slide rails etc. Im well aware.
Ian, I had a Jane's book on pistols that specifically said about the L-35, "Warning, do not attempt to disassemble without guidance & a full toolkit!". Why would they have that warning given how simple & easy the disassembly is & why might they have got the idea that it was difficult?
I’ve only seen and fired one sample. I think it was made in Sweden and marked Husqvarna. It felt very much like a Luger and was a pleasure to use. It was my friends carry pistol during the Korean War.
I suppose the problem is inherent with designs having a combination of a relatively light bolt and heavy barrel+extension. It's difficult to get the bolt to have enough kinetic energy to cycle the gun. It's much less of a problem with a light barrel and heavy bolt/slide, like in 1911 or HP35. History shows that the latter design was the better path to follow.
The neighbour of my childhood home had one of these back in the day though I can't remember the model number. I only got to fondle it and not shoot, bah. They said 6 years is too young. Coincidentally he kept it atop his brick fireplace in a strongbox.
In my youth I had one of the swedish ones which was marked p40. It had a thin ring trigger guard I was told it was a police issue. It had a bad habit of splitting brass on ejection. Scared me bad enough I sold the pistol. I probably put overpowered ammo in it. But other than that it was highly accurate and a joy to shoot. It fit my hand incredibly comfortably but so does a Luger. At the same time I had to mark one Ruger which 46 years later I still have and shoot it all I'm. I love anything with that grip angle.
Kind of odd that they couldn't get ahold of pistol ammunition. My father used to shoot the m/45b competitively, and they always used military pistol ammo, much more weakly loaded.
@@TzunSu Practices have changed the m/39B can go through pistol body armor so there was a big scare about it. The military in Sweden used to hand out ammo to shooting clubs in the past because it was good for marksmanship in the population.
@@borjesvensson8661 Oh no, they chose them specifically for the lower recoil. When you're shooting at targets, you don't need much energy, and especially shooting full auto the difference is big. I think if they got whatever was lying around it would be much more likely they would have gotten the (much more common, in military use) B round. I *think* it was the 9mm sk ptr m/39 they were specifically looking for. My dad competed in national finals, so was very picky about things like this :P Welded the barrel for example, for better accuracy. Means you have to toss the gun when the barrel is finished, but they were basically free from surplus by the time my dad was shooting.
I have no source, but I think these are still in ceremonial use to this day. I did my service in Kainuu brigade, and during certain ceremonies the officers had these holstered.
He was not a formal engineer at all, he only had a short army gunsmith education. He was essentially self-thought. The Americans tried to buy him to come over to the US in the 1930s, but State of Finland responded to this by making sure his designs got realized domestically and that Lahti was paid pretty well. Later in life Lahti's problems mounted: his abrasive character, perhaps an inferiority complex stemming from his poor formal education, his lack of will to cooperate, and his increasing drinking problem.
The main reason for slide failures was the heavy use of hot loaded submachine gun ammo during and after WW II. The accelerator axis pin created a weak spot on early slides, some slides show "stretch marks" on the sides of the coupling hump, softer material.
Another reason I kick myself, back in the 80's you could get the Swedish guns for a song, but I just figured they were a knock off of the Luger and passed on them. I have owned both the bolt gun and the semi-auto rifles from Sweden at one time or another, both were of the highest quality.
Ian. I wish to thank you for this particular review (and for correcting me at Varusteleka's Grand Opening that you indeed had already made a review about it). P.S: Thank you for signing my .30 cal. ammo box!
For anyone who's curious, the Lahti has a really great mod version in Fallout 4, including on Xbox. It includes quite period accurate sights, and a few different stock variants. It can also be finished - per section - in many combinations. The mod author really put a lot of effort in. I think the mod description mentions "forgotten weapons", albeit in lower case, so I strongly assume they watched this video for additional research.
Identical internally? I've heard Swedish M40 doesn't have bolt accelerator, which makes slider is more sturdy, but might also make gun less reliable with weaker ammo ir when dirty.
i do not know if you know him, but "The Mighty Jingles" mentioned Forgotten Weapons and Inrange TV in his 'Mingles with Jingles' episode today! Maybe that brings over some new subscribers for you guys! :D
At about minute 13 you accidentally said l39 instead of l35. Otherwise, awesome video: I always love looking at early automatic pistols, or at least relatively early in this case.
Got a bit curious when you said the Swedes sold the Husqvarna to Norway and Denmark, but a quick Google search of the Norwegian police troops in Sweden during WWII came up with pictures of Police troops with local militia men at Falstad POW camp in 1945 were one of the officers is clearly wearing a holstered Husqvarna.
When I was a kid, I read about troops smuggling "lahti-pistols" back from the front. I always thought they meant "pistols for butchering", Finland still being very much an agrarian society, and "lahti" meaning butchering. (Also means "bay"...) It took surprisingly long for it to click, oh, Lahti-pistols...
I wonder if the reason for the low production numbers for Lahti pistols was due to the wartime conditions in Finland. Finland had an incredibly high percentage of it's population serving in the military or directly supporting it. Before the war, Finland was a predominantly agrarian based economy, with limited industry. Once the war started, there probably wasn't a lot of extra resources, skilled craftsmen, and time to spend on making pistols, when there were so many other priorities. At one point, the Finnish army had to demobilize part of it's forces, so men could go home to work their farms and such. Finland was greatly dependent on shipments of grain and military supplies to keep it's economy going. I know the Finnish army captured large numbers of weapons from the Soviets during the Winter War(1939-40) and then turned around and used them against the Soviets in the Continuation War(1941-44). Perhaps there were enough captured pistols to go around for the limited number of people who needed or wanted one, that production of the Lahti was never considered a priority. Most troops would rather have a rifle or SMG for better firepower and effectiveness.
Since you're left-handed and I'm left-handed as well I would love to see a video on the times and weapons that gave you the worst trouble and that you actually liked as being a left-hander
you mentioned the weakness in the Finnish model requiring relatively mild loads. I have a very unique Huskvarna Lahti pistol which as it was one of several that were never assembled and were apparently found in the hardness testing lab unassembled. A friend recently purchased several of these and assembled them. The serial numbers had to be hand stamped on the frames and not all the markings were completed as these test weapons never went through the assembly process. I would hate to fire it with commercial ammunition with hotter loads and have a barrel weakend. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Sweden had already selected the Walter P38 as it's service pistol m/39 but then the war broke out and only limited numbers got into service as all of Walter's production where directed towards German needs. The plan was for Walter to have delivered 3000 guns in the first two years after witch Swedish license production would have gotten underway.
I think Norway also had some of these, as you can buy the blued magazines from surplus shops here, for around $9 each. Might be imported from Sweden, as surplus, though
Norway and Denmark secretly trained police forces in Sweden at the end of the war to step in as the German Army capitulated. Those forces were equipped with Swedish standard m40 Husqvarna Pistols (license built L35). Sweden also exported aprox 500 unmarked Husqvarna m40 pistols to the Norwegian resistance, Hjemmefronten. Those 500 Pistols were sold by the company Skandiastål AB, that actually was run by C-byrån (C-office) that was the Swedish secret intelligence during the war.
Would the Lahti stocks fit on a Luger? I mean, if the adapters on the Lathi are ever so slightly bigger, then they should maybe rattle a bit on a Luger, but otherwise fit - or so I think. Does anyone have an idea?
Latest assault rifle, RK 95 TP, does have "SAKO" marking on it's receiver. The grip is mostly covered with plastic with grip-enhancing pattern. FDF uses FN, Glock and Walthers as sidearms. FN replaced L-35, so no Finnish designed sidearms were developed after L-35. Not sure about other domestic weapons like TKiv 85 or 2000. Never paid that much attention to markings, even when handling them.
Valmet and VKT is kinda similiar thing, as it is state owned facilty and became the same. Valmet stands for "Valtion, metallitehtaat" (state metall factories) and VKT for "Valtion Kivääri Tehtaat" (state rifle factories)., VLT (state aircraft factory), etc There were also other businesses that went the same way, some live like Valmet tractors, nowadays branded Valtra and under Agco int.
Cool! I have one of these that's half early commercial L-35 (frame and bolt, still matching, interestingly the serial number is very slightly _less_ than 6800) and half Swedish m/40 (barrel and upper). I'm guessing somebody blew up the original upper at some point and a Swedish one was easier to get hold of to replace it. Seems to work fine, although based on behavior I've seen in Swedes and Finns online, its hybrid nature presumably means it hates its own guts and spends a lot of time sniping at itself on social media. :)
I have always regretted not buying one of those when the Swedish ones hit the market at a cheep price back in the late 70's Shotgun News was full of adds for them, but I always had something better to do with my gun money back then. Now the money is gone but the desire remains, thus is the story of my life I guess.
Hey Ian ! I used to watch your channel all the time then I forgot about it . There is a reason to it because RUclips want to make channels like yours invisibie... I was just watching a video of The Mighty Jingles and he was talking about you. I am sorry you lost monitization. Good luck on your journey.
Considering the Finn's mindset of 'The Soviets are our biggest threat so lets use weapons that use their ammo', I find it a bit surprising they didn't use a copy of the TT-33 as their service pistol.
The development of domestic versions was started way before the TT-33 and there was a good supply of other pistols as well so there was no real need to copy a Soviet pistol. Also, pistols were not used that much either way, so the ammunition supply for them was not a real problem. Actually, having a 9x19 Luger pistol made much more sense since most of the ammo in that caliber was distributed to be used with the SMGs, so all the pistols could be supplied from the same stock. Finns did use captured Soviet pistols, but usually they were (and mostly still are) "off the books" and were used by their actual captors. Thus, without any official record, they would not be supplied by the armed forces.
And the KP-31 could put one heck of a lot of that hot-loaded 9mm downrange. No exaggeration to suggest the KP-31 is the main reason Finland still exists.
I have a different looking stock for the lahti and I tried putting it on a buddy's m40 and it wouldn't go all the way on without some fitting BTW we didn't get it one all the way we didn't want to force it but it appears to be made for it 100% but just don't know enough about them
It's often said that Finnish Lahtis are better fit and finished than Swedish pistols, but other than the very early Finnish L-35s, there is evidence of simplifying cost-cutting, inside and out, and the two guns appear very similar.
The mystical "Browning revolver"? Probably engraved with passages from Bardo Thödol, haha! Well, since we're talking about it, would it have been an FN M1900 or 1903? Because history tells that he showed the Dalai Lama the quick reloading of a seven cartridges browning revolver. Or maybe it was a Swedish Nagant M1887 and not a Browning at all. It is also credible and it would follow this reloading story. Or just a translation error.
@@gardenerofthemisguided2496 I've also seen reference to it in a paper about the history of Finland's police armaments. Apparently the people who wrote about the stuff in the 1920's thought revolver was synonym for pistol so FN 1900 got called Browning revolver.
@@coolsenjoyer You see that a lot in detective fiction of the period as well, especially British detective novels (and European ones in UK-made English translations). Often the context will leave no doubt that an automatic is being discussed; sometimes the phrase "automatic revolver" even gets used, and it's obvious they're not talking about a Webley-Fosbery. :)
So its one in the morning and I'm watching this video. I run upstairs and get my Swedish model 40 and take it apart to look for cracks. I had heard they could crack, and really didn't know where, not sure how the Swedish serial numbers ran, but mine is a D series s/n, so I suspect it is a later manufacture.I didn't get the 10x out but with a bright light, I do not see anything. I could not find a dedicated video on the Swedish models, if you did, please post a reply, I searched and looked and didn't find any.
In no way a criticism but knowing how much Ian likes correctly pronouncing foreign words... The H in Lahti isn't silent. It is sounds exactly like H in Hulk or Honey. LA-kh-tee.
Was the accelerator thicker/more robust on the swedish model, I only glimpsed it in the video, but it looked more like a halfmoon than a crescent, so to speak.
A friend of mine bought one of these at a discount, years ago, because the gun store owner thought this was a cheap copy of a Luger. He said he went back later and the guy just looked daggers at him, so he left. True story....
Hi. Another exellent video! When judging finishing quality of these guns had to keep mind that Finns were under fire shortage for everything Over million Russian soldiers fighting on our borders. Population in Finland was about 4 million people and it was miracle that we we kept our border closed. Finns get help mostly only from germany because we were war towards allied country.
Came here from the fallout 4 mod on the nexus. Could you actually make this full auto? You said there was issues, I'm surprised how that fluke wasn't looked further into for later developing one with full auto capabilities if it was possible. An extended mag, better sights, maybe a different length barrel and that stock would make for a neat package. I could see it used as a pdw for tank crews or engineers on the field during the second world war.
Three years later, and I'm here from the Fallout 4 mod as well, but on Xbox. I'm sure I watched it years ago, but it was nice to see this after trying it out in the game. The modder really put a lot of effort into it and its features. I don't think the mod Lahti locks on empty, which is a shame, but I assume it's an issue with altering the default animation. Oh, and I'm half Finnish, so it's nice to use a Finnish firearm in F4, and that it's such a good implementation.
Ian: Today we're taking a look on a gun made in Finla..
Finns: You have summoned us
You. Dont. Want. To. Summon. Us. We drink your booze, and steal your guns.
@@persesaurus true
@@persesaurus * glances at m/39 mosin* I don’t think anyone has a problem with fins taking guns and making them much better lol
You have suomenned us
Hyvää Suomi. I am Albanian, and spent some of my childhood in Finland (a lot of people in the Balkans moved there after the wars), and I have nothing but good things to say about Finnish people and society. Although they can be a bit cold, and drink much more than I typically do.
I have been waiting for this... Aimo Lahti was our Browning. A story tells that he got a written permission from Marshal Mannerheim to drink while working. Have to check that out...
aopfin he did pretty well for the situation he and the country were in
Yes, Browning had the unfair advantage of living in a country NOT worried about Soviet invasion.
Devin Stromgren and the country having adequate industry
explains why the gun got banned in sweden after exploding in a soldiers hands
no that was just the Finns having the brotherly love and pulling a prank on the poor swede.
Having lived in Finland for a couple of years, and having an interest in Finnish firearms, I always wanted to get a Lahti pistol. Years ago I ran across a dealer at a gun show who had one. I recognized it immediately from it's distinctive shape. It was an original wartime VKT pistol. Just my luck, this was one of those times I was low on cash, and couldn't get it. The same dealer also had an early 1944 marked wartime German P-38, still in it's original holster, undoubtedly brought back to the U.S. back a returning U.S. soldier; another pistol I had been looking for. So not having the money available to buy both these guns was a double whammy of disappointment, and I've never seen another Lahti, or a good wartime P-38 ever again.
It may be for the best. Although I had read about Lahti pistol and of their breakdown if fired with hot ammo, I hadn't stopped to check that particular pistol for cracks. It really would have been disappointing to have bought it, gotten it home, and then find a crack in the frame or barrel.
Sometime later, when the holster for the swedish gun came on the market, I bought one. It was in good condition, and came with the two extra magazines. I thought I could use these if I ever found another Lahti, since the one I'd seen came with neither holster or spare magazines.
Speaking of which, I didn't see this covered for certain in the video, but I am wondering if anyone has definitive knowledge of whether or not swedish magazines will fit and function in the Finnish Lahti.
Full auto problem? That sounds like a premium feature...
i forgot to pray during the cleansing of the city
You have to unlock it by killing three tanks in a streak.
I dont understand why that was a thing with Finnish weapons, the same thing occured with the first Jatimatic, submachine guns too. "Lets make a pistol... why the hell this shoots full auto!"
They also got rid of the shoulder stock on the commercial gun. Two bad design decisions right there... ;)
Open bolt system. :)
I had a Swedish L-35. It quickly developed a crack in the frame where the locking block engaged the barrel extention (under the rear sight), I didn't know about the under powered ammo, but it also looked like a design mistake, in that the recesses had sharp internal corners rather than rounded. This was in 1953.
9:00 This is what Apple does these days. "It's slightly different, and it won't fit. So you'll have to buy our new accessories instead of using the old ones."
Teemu Hotari Seems a bit unlike the Finns to do that. You'd think that the Finns of all people would appreciate such interchangeability.
ProudToBeNoob As a Finn myself, I know. Apple and its unpractical products were the first thing to have in mind. And of course it was a joke.
Especially in a way where they can use others' parts and others can't use theirs, like the mortars. Or so I've heard.
Which is why, right from the start years ago I never considered Apple for purchase. They verged on beautiful design but their greed put me right off permanently. Great design, evil company.
@@deltavee2 They've gotten better! Jk their still lobbying to ban repairing iphones and intentionally making parts not work (even from another iphone using part ID voodoo), and then the places licensed to fix the iphone always make it more expensive than actually buying a new one. Same as how Dell pushes tech recycling so people can't just get a older pc for basic tasks.
The hump on the slide was intended to contain a coupling stabilizer, a spring-loaded plunger. The slide assist spring was under the barrel in front part of the frame. Those parts were dropped after the 0-series. The 1. series still had the spaces milled.
Always interesting to see these kinda collections presented. Comparing variants and their associated history makes for great content.
By the way, in Swedish service the m/40 was affectionally known as the “Kamrat 40”, translating to “Comrade 40”, at least by us at my artillery regiment, but also by some coastal artillery men I knew
Just saw you on vice news. Your interview was pretty interesting and it was cool to hear your take on all this after watching your videos for so long. I think your videos are great and very educational. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
@@ForgottenWeapons oh what Vice? VICE??? I would not be surprised if they tried to make you look out as a lover of mass shootings since they are vice and you are associated with guns! But great video keep up the good job!
@@AveragePootis vice is the only of few news people that actually go into wars and shooting, only people I could really find covering the fighting in ukraine and what not.
Clicked the like button the second I opened the video. Cant go wrong with Ian and Lahti. One of my favourite handguns, very pleasant to shoot!
Looks like a luger crossed with a nambu. A lugbu
john m A nambger
Nager.
With just a hint of broom handle Mauser thrown in.
@@marvindebot3264 i dont remember writing this comment
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I'm a sucker for anything Finnish, so thanks very much Ian! I've heard a lot about this gun but never got to see it as in depth as you went. Keep up the amazing content, RUclips be damned!
Another Finnish firearm in Forgotten Weapons! Keep them coming, Ian. :D
I owned one of these for a few days... bought it from a company in Quebec online and when it arrived I noticed the slide looked odd.
Took it to my gunsmith and he proceeded to show me that there was a hairline crack in the slide running along almost its whole length and ended up splitting the feed-ramp in half. Totally unsafe to fire and not able to be repaired.
Thankfully the company/shop gave me a full refund when I returned it.
Sadly I haven't seen one since.... they're certainly rare to find in Canada.
Thanks so much for doing this video. I’ve wanted one of these for quite a long time
Great video! You commented on the quite impressive weight of the gun. In Sweden a common nickname for the gun was "Jarnspisen" which means "The Iron Stove". I guess partly because of the weight, and partly because Husqvarna also manufactured iron stoves. Maybe they still do. They used to make pretty much everything, chain saws, hot dog vending machines, motorcycles, guns, you name it. I know they still make chain saws!
One of my favorite military pistols. Love the video, very informative!
The background reminds me of when I was at my Cousins house in Montreal, back in the 70's ... i was 12 years old and my parents sent me on the train, to stay withy them for a few weeks ... (They and they were rich "city kids" and I lived on a farm in a swamp, in Northern Ontario)
They had a fireplace JUST like this, in their living room, (notice it's never been used)
Of course growing up on the farm I awake smartly at 6:00 am (sorry i slept in) ... it was a bit chilly (you guessed it) and there was some Birch Logs beside the Fireplace ... I could;t find an axe, but there was a fancy clever in the knife drawer ... :)
Well fortunately it was a REAL fireplace ... BUT one of my cousins still called the fire department! :)
Legend has it they actually USED the fireplace occasionally after that! :)
The wartime FDF 9mm service load packed a punch.. 124gr @ 1300fps.. Actually the rumour says that particular load was one of the reasons why alloy frame FN service pistols of late decades were quickly shot out of tolerance for using that SMG-ammo meant for Suomi KP-31..
StPaul76 Those Fn BDAs were horrible pistols, it would have been more accurate to just throw the damn thing at the target.
Mordecai Eagle - FN BDAs are just fine, the bad rep comes from the fact that the guns have been misused by tens of thousands of hands during the last almost 30 years of service and they haven't been properly overhauled at any point.
I should know, two of our overseas service pistols (FNs) had worn firing pins, and another few had dead hammer springs. Nothing we could do to fix them out there, so we just hung on to our RKs.
Can't even imagine how worn all the barrels were.
This was great. True about the structural weakens when using hot ammunition. I used the m/40 occasionally when I did my military service, and since I was also issued with a m/45 SMG, I fired it using the same m/39B 9mm cartridges we loaded in our Carl Gustavs, but that cartridge really was to hot for the pistol.
While it was not a Finnish variant (rather, a Swedish one) I had issues with the extractor misbehaving, when using hot ammo.
This is a great example of what I love most about Forgotten Weapons. Ian it just was great. Thank you.
Well that was interesting, not least because it disproves the claims in two 'authoritative' reference books I've got which both say:
1. The Lahti is very reliable and well-sealed to keep out dirt (no mention of breakages with hot loads),
2. The Lahti is very difficult to disassemble and you shouldn't attempt it without a full tool kit
I wonder whether a lot of these reference books just copy each other, i.e. one guy said "Lahtis are hard to dismantle" back in the '60s and everybody's just copied it since without actually checking it by looking at an actual gun? There's certainly evidence of this phenomenon in aircraft reference books...
"Plagiarize! Let no one else's work evade your eyes! Remember why the good Lord _made_ your eyes so don't shade your eyes but plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize! Only be sure always to call it please 'research'."
- Tom Lehrer, "Lobachevsky" (1960)
I'll not speak to the issues with running hot loads through - my Swedish M40 has a replacement barrel extension -
But I can certainly attest that it will function very nicely at -30 (F or C, they're 'bout the same) temperatures.
Frost and snow certainly aren't issues.
The only issues I've had are failures to feed with soft-nose (not jacketed) ammunition, and some really, really light reloads. - the high grip angle really demands a jacketed bullet - the round kind of porpoises in.
It's certainly a dream to field strip it - like a SIG P220.
YO That Tom Lehrer reference. Good stuff!
Paul Scarlata wrote an excellent article on Lahti pistols, which was published in "Military Surplus 2014." Regarding the M/40 he states, "Type IV pistols had receivers made from high-quality steel by Carl Gustaf in the 1960s and were stronger than the earlier production. They also lacked 'Husqvarna' markings." Mention is also made of the 1955 adoption of a 9mm cartridge (sk ptr 39B), which featured a 106-grain bullet at 1,375 fps. When problems with cracked receivers developed from the use of this ammo, guns were recalled and rebuilt with Type IV Carl Gustaf receivers. A very interesting series of pistols.
Word of the day Finish. These Finnish guns have a nice finish, no pun intended.
Whoever's house that is they certainly have an eclectic and complete collection of series' of guns.
Kiitos Mestari.
When I saw them on the table, I was excited to see so many lugers in one place...
Think of it as a Luger with all the unnecessary complication taken out.
If you're OK with the weight, it's a very good shooter, and you can count on it to work.
After the war, people would accidentaly shoot the 9mm rounds ment for KP-31 with the L-35 and have them destroyed.
There were two types of ammunition, one for the pistols and one for the smg. Ammo ment for pistols were loaded with lower charge and had a green label on front the box and the smg ammo box's had red label, that had much stronger powder charge (about 30-35% stronger than the ammo ment for pistols).
You could shoot the pistol ammo with the KP-31, there were stoppages and malfunctions due to the lower load of the ammo.
Oliko se niin että KP-patruunassa oli myös punainen lakkatiiviste hylsyn suulla..? Jos näin niin niitähän sitä räiskittiin FN:n DA'llakin että pölisi.. :D Ainakin ne patruuna-askit mitä availtiin 'Firmassa' -96 oli vuoskymmeniä wanhoja pahviaskeja, vuosilukua en muista.. D166-luodilla ladatut 7,62x53R-patruunat oli ainakin jostain 60-luvulta sen muistan varmasti kun tarkka-ampujana olin.. :D
Kyllä on. Kummallakin patruunalla on/oli oma lakkatiiviste. Lahden alkuperästä patruunaa tuskin enää mistään löydät, mutta KP:n omaa vanhaa sodan ajan latausta löytyy vielä sieltä täältä.
Kaikkee sitä muistaakin.. :D Jooh ne on tulisia pikku napsuja ne.. Pistoolilla ampuessa näyttää hienoa suuliekkiä ja hylsykin lähtee kuin hauki makuulta.. :D
Same thing happened in sweden
@@Hubert_Cumberdale_ At least in Sweden the the m/39 had black lacquer between the bullet/case and primer while the m/39b had red lacquer so you could easily tell which is which.
I have hefted a Lahti L-35 before--These pistols really are Heavy.
Amen.
Honestly why are machining marks disliked so much by most people? i think they give the guns a really well-made look, no one ever bubba´d the gun up with a polishing wheel (breaking the sharp edges).
TheAngler2210 Because it's a big part of the "finish" in "fit and finish." It's not necessary to polish the exterior of the gun, but most people think the metal surface looks nicer, and like the smooth feel of polished metal. I don't mind machine marks myself, function is what matters. My VZ 58 has them and I love the gun. I also love the high polish blue on the sides of my 1911, though.
Why military pistol should be beautiful. If it doesent run, crome it.
TheAngler2210 Its a sign of components being chewed out with heavy feeds. Poor finish. Cheap.
Paul Passat: It doesent matter in exterior especially in war time productions. Critical and moving(sliding) parts are different.
Cheap and fast production doesnt necessarily mean poor quality, but efficiency. And to everyone: I ofcourse only meant outer surfaces and surfaces that dont work against anything. You dont want machining marks on your feed ramp, bolt raceways, slide rails etc. Im well aware.
Thanks, I ran across a Husqvarna this weekend in Grahamstown South Africa
Yep..If the Luger doesn't work, take a Lahti, it's "cheaper"..
Russian soldier asking another about his captured pistol: "Lahti?" "Da!" :P
Ian, I had a Jane's book on pistols that specifically said about the L-35, "Warning, do not attempt to disassemble without guidance & a full toolkit!". Why would they have that warning given how simple & easy the disassembly is & why might they have got the idea that it was difficult?
I’ve only seen and fired one sample. I think it was made in Sweden and marked Husqvarna. It felt very much like a Luger and was a pleasure to use. It was my friends carry pistol during the Korean War.
I could feel all the sisu coming out of this video. Very cool and good.
If I remember correctly the accelerator was to help with operation in cold weather where ammo supposedly would generate lower slide velocities.
I suppose the problem is inherent with designs having a combination of a relatively light bolt and heavy barrel+extension. It's difficult to get the bolt to have enough kinetic energy to cycle the gun. It's much less of a problem with a light barrel and heavy bolt/slide, like in 1911 or HP35. History shows that the latter design was the better path to follow.
The neighbour of my childhood home had one of these back in the day though I can't remember the model number. I only got to fondle it and not shoot, bah. They said 6 years is too young. Coincidentally he kept it atop his brick fireplace in a strongbox.
Thanks so much for doing this video! I have always wanted to know more about these pistols.
In my youth I had one of the swedish ones which was marked p40. It had a thin ring trigger guard I was told it was a police issue. It had a bad habit of splitting brass on ejection. Scared me bad enough I sold the pistol. I probably put overpowered ammo in it. But other than that it was highly accurate and a joy to shoot. It fit my hand incredibly comfortably but so does a Luger. At the same time I had to mark one Ruger which 46 years later I still have and shoot it all I'm. I love anything with that grip angle.
Yay, I've been waiting for this one. Thanks Ian!
The Swedish army used these until the 1980's when the rear of the guns started fracturing due to the Swedish army using m/39B as it's standard ammo.
For a short period after that we started using the mle1903 again.
Kind of odd that they couldn't get ahold of pistol ammunition. My father used to shoot the m/45b competitively, and they always used military pistol ammo, much more weakly loaded.
@@TzunSu Practices have changed the m/39B can go through pistol body armor so there was a big scare about it.
The military in Sweden used to hand out ammo to shooting clubs in the past because it was good for marksmanship in the population.
@@TzunSuprobably just cause of.
Hey i need 9mm ammo. Okay here you have a bunch
@@borjesvensson8661 Oh no, they chose them specifically for the lower recoil. When you're shooting at targets, you don't need much energy, and especially shooting full auto the difference is big.
I think if they got whatever was lying around it would be much more likely they would have gotten the (much more common, in military use) B round. I *think* it was the 9mm sk ptr m/39 they were specifically looking for.
My dad competed in national finals, so was very picky about things like this :P Welded the barrel for example, for better accuracy. Means you have to toss the gun when the barrel is finished, but they were basically free from surplus by the time my dad was shooting.
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I have no source, but I think these are still in ceremonial use to this day. I did my service in Kainuu brigade, and during certain ceremonies the officers had these holstered.
We finnish really like your channel! GJ
Aimo Lahti was clearly a great engineer, to design and a produce a functional hand gun with so few iterations is impressive.
He was not a formal engineer at all, he only had a short army gunsmith education. He was essentially self-thought. The Americans tried to buy him to come over to the US in the 1930s, but State of Finland responded to this by making sure his designs got realized domestically and that Lahti was paid pretty well.
Later in life Lahti's problems mounted: his abrasive character, perhaps an inferiority complex stemming from his poor formal education, his lack of will to cooperate, and his increasing drinking problem.
The main reason for slide failures was the heavy use of hot loaded submachine gun ammo during and after WW II. The accelerator axis pin created a weak spot on early slides, some slides show "stretch marks" on the sides of the coupling hump, softer material.
Another reason I kick myself, back in the 80's you could get the Swedish guns for a song, but I just figured they were a knock off of the Luger and passed on them. I have owned both the bolt gun and the semi-auto rifles from Sweden at one time or another, both were of the highest quality.
Very good episode.
Thanks for sharing this.
Best regards from Sweden.
The most beautiful display of pistols.
Ian. I wish to thank you for this particular review (and for correcting me at Varusteleka's Grand Opening that you indeed had already made a review about it).
P.S: Thank you for signing my .30 cal. ammo box!
For anyone who's curious, the Lahti has a really great mod version in Fallout 4, including on Xbox. It includes quite period accurate sights, and a few different stock variants.
It can also be finished - per section - in many combinations. The mod author really put a lot of effort in. I think the mod description mentions "forgotten weapons", albeit in lower case, so I strongly assume they watched this video for additional research.
Love watching your history lessons!!!
Identical internally? I've heard Swedish M40 doesn't have bolt accelerator, which makes slider is more sturdy, but might also make gun less reliable with weaker ammo ir when dirty.
Thank you, excellent video.
i do not know if you know him, but "The Mighty Jingles" mentioned Forgotten Weapons and Inrange TV in his 'Mingles with Jingles' episode today! Maybe that brings over some new subscribers for you guys! :D
I have been waiting for years!
Depending on which series of a Swedish Lahti you have- you may have the stepped front sight and the smooth barrel(without the lug)
At about minute 13 you accidentally said l39 instead of l35. Otherwise, awesome video: I always love looking at early automatic pistols, or at least relatively early in this case.
Hyvä ja tarkka , pari kertaa ampunu 👌
Got a bit curious when you said the Swedes sold the Husqvarna to Norway and Denmark, but a quick Google search of the Norwegian police troops in Sweden during WWII came up with pictures of Police troops with local militia men at Falstad POW camp in 1945 were one of the officers is clearly wearing a holstered Husqvarna.
Beautiful gun
Thanks Ian
When I was a kid, I read about troops smuggling "lahti-pistols" back from the front. I always thought they meant "pistols for butchering", Finland still being very much an agrarian society, and "lahti" meaning butchering. (Also means "bay"...) It took surprisingly long for it to click, oh, Lahti-pistols...
Yeah our guys pocketed a lot of pistols, many of them were taken from the enemy.
>Lahtaus
>Lahti
Learn the difference.
I wonder if the reason for the low production numbers for Lahti pistols was due to the wartime conditions in Finland. Finland had an incredibly high percentage of it's population serving in the military or directly supporting it. Before the war, Finland was a predominantly agrarian based economy, with limited industry. Once the war started, there probably wasn't a lot of extra resources, skilled craftsmen, and time to spend on making pistols, when there were so many other priorities. At one point, the Finnish army had to demobilize part of it's forces, so men could go home to work their farms and such. Finland was greatly dependent on shipments of grain and military supplies to keep it's economy going.
I know the Finnish army captured large numbers of weapons from the Soviets during the Winter War(1939-40) and then turned around and used them against the Soviets in the Continuation War(1941-44). Perhaps there were enough captured pistols to go around for the limited number of people who needed or wanted one, that production of the Lahti was never considered a priority. Most troops would rather have a rifle or SMG for better firepower and effectiveness.
Since you're left-handed and I'm left-handed as well I would love to see a video on the times and weapons that gave you the worst trouble and that you actually liked as being a left-hander
More parallelepipedic than trapezoidal around 5:48 :)
you mentioned the weakness in the Finnish model requiring relatively mild loads. I have a very unique Huskvarna Lahti pistol which as it was one of several that were never assembled and were apparently found in the hardness testing lab unassembled. A friend recently purchased several of these and assembled them. The serial numbers had to be hand stamped on the frames and not all the markings were completed as these test weapons never went through the assembly process. I would hate to fire it with commercial ammunition with hotter loads and have a barrel weakend. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Sweden had already selected the Walter P38 as it's service pistol m/39 but then the war broke out and only limited numbers got into service as all of Walter's production where directed towards German needs.
The plan was for Walter to have delivered 3000 guns in the first two years after witch Swedish license production would have gotten underway.
I think Norway also had some of these, as you can buy the blued magazines from surplus shops here, for around $9 each. Might be imported from Sweden, as surplus, though
Norway and Denmark secretly trained police forces in Sweden at the end of the war to step in as the German Army capitulated. Those forces were equipped with Swedish standard m40 Husqvarna Pistols (license built L35). Sweden also exported aprox 500 unmarked Husqvarna m40 pistols to the Norwegian resistance, Hjemmefronten. Those 500 Pistols were sold by the company Skandiastål AB, that actually was run by C-byrån (C-office) that was the Swedish secret intelligence during the war.
Would the Lahti stocks fit on a Luger? I mean, if the adapters on the Lathi are ever so slightly bigger, then they should maybe rattle a bit on a Luger, but otherwise fit - or so I think. Does anyone have an idea?
Do the latest finnish gun have Valmet or VKT written on their grip?
VKT is defunct and Valmet isn't making weapons anymore. And as far as I know Sako is only finnish company to manufacture weapons.
You mean the Valmet on this video? Well this one 16:35 seems to have Valmet on top but grips say VKT.
Thanks JoroJugga, this is indeed what I meant!
Latest assault rifle, RK 95 TP, does have "SAKO" marking on it's receiver. The grip is mostly covered with plastic with grip-enhancing pattern.
FDF uses FN, Glock and Walthers as sidearms. FN replaced L-35, so no Finnish designed sidearms were developed after L-35.
Not sure about other domestic weapons like TKiv 85 or 2000. Never paid that much attention to markings, even when handling them.
Valmet and VKT is kinda similiar thing, as it is state owned facilty and became the same. Valmet stands for "Valtion, metallitehtaat" (state metall factories) and VKT for "Valtion Kivääri Tehtaat" (state rifle factories)., VLT (state aircraft factory), etc
There were also other businesses that went the same way, some live like Valmet tractors, nowadays branded Valtra and under Agco int.
Cool! I have one of these that's half early commercial L-35 (frame and bolt, still matching, interestingly the serial number is very slightly _less_ than 6800) and half Swedish m/40 (barrel and upper). I'm guessing somebody blew up the original upper at some point and a Swedish one was easier to get hold of to replace it. Seems to work fine, although based on behavior I've seen in Swedes and Finns online, its hybrid nature presumably means it hates its own guts and spends a lot of time sniping at itself on social media. :)
Torilla on jo melko lämmintä.
Tuon simaa
Mie voin tuoda tippaleivät.
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Tori mainittu suomessa tavataan
never have i been happier than hearing more about Finland making weapons
I have always regretted not buying one of those when the Swedish ones hit the market at a cheep price back in the late 70's Shotgun News was full of adds for them, but I always had something better to do with my gun money back then. Now the money is gone but the desire remains, thus is the story of my life I guess.
Turners in Salinas has a lahti with holster and accessories.
I wonder if they would function with the accelerator removed? Perhaps that way you could use typical commercial ammo in them?
Hey Ian ! I used to watch your channel all the time then I forgot about it . There is a reason to it because RUclips want to make channels like yours invisibie...
I was just watching a video of The Mighty Jingles and he was talking about you. I am sorry you lost monitization. Good luck on your journey.
Considering the Finn's mindset of 'The Soviets are our biggest threat so lets use weapons that use their ammo', I find it a bit surprising they didn't use a copy of the TT-33 as their service pistol.
The development of domestic versions was started way before the TT-33 and there was a good supply of other pistols as well so there was no real need to copy a Soviet pistol.
Also, pistols were not used that much either way, so the ammunition supply for them was not a real problem. Actually, having a 9x19 Luger pistol made much more sense since most of the ammo in that caliber was distributed to be used with the SMGs, so all the pistols could be supplied from the same stock.
Finns did use captured Soviet pistols, but usually they were (and mostly still are) "off the books" and were used by their actual captors. Thus, without any official record, they would not be supplied by the armed forces.
And the KP-31 could put one heck of a lot of that hot-loaded 9mm downrange. No exaggeration to suggest the KP-31 is the main reason Finland still exists.
Wonder what a collaboration video between Forgotten Weapons or In Range and Beyond the Press channel or Hydraulic Press channel would like.
It would look like a Finnish metal festival. ruclips.net/video/-aaCUGvmpAw/видео.html
I'd be curious to learn if the Swedish versions had the same issues with regard to cracks developing from using hotter loads.
They actually had more issues because of the lower quality steel.
I have a different looking stock for the lahti and I tried putting it on a buddy's m40 and it wouldn't go all the way on without some fitting BTW we didn't get it one all the way we didn't want to force it but it appears to be made for it 100% but just don't know enough about them
It's often said that Finnish Lahtis are better fit and finished than Swedish pistols, but other than the very early Finnish L-35s, there is evidence of simplifying cost-cutting, inside and out, and the two guns appear very similar.
21:16 I wouldn't be BANGING AROUND THE SET while Ian is sitting behind that pile of pistols. Might be some 9x19 ammo rolling around his pockets.
The disassembly is very practical for a Jet Li maneuver. Fun fact: It was the Finns who taught the Shaolin monks so don't annoy them!!
Mannerheim actually teached the 13th Dalai-lama to shoot a pistol which I find interesting
The mystical "Browning revolver"? Probably engraved with passages from Bardo Thödol, haha!
Well, since we're talking about it, would it have been an FN M1900 or 1903? Because history tells that he showed the Dalai Lama the quick reloading of a seven cartridges browning revolver.
Or maybe it was a Swedish Nagant M1887 and not a Browning at all. It is also credible and it would follow this reloading story. Or just a translation error.
Where does that anecdote come from?
@@gardenerofthemisguided2496 I've also seen reference to it in a paper about the history of Finland's police armaments. Apparently the people who wrote about the stuff in the 1920's thought revolver was synonym for pistol so FN 1900 got called Browning revolver.
@@coolsenjoyer You see that a lot in detective fiction of the period as well, especially British detective novels (and European ones in UK-made English translations). Often the context will leave no doubt that an automatic is being discussed; sometimes the phrase "automatic revolver" even gets used, and it's obvious they're not talking about a Webley-Fosbery. :)
Have you made an episode on the FN Browning M1900? They're not rare or forgotten, but Eugen Schauman used one, linking it to Finland's history.
No, not yet.
I have a Husqvarna that I am going to take out in the near future. Thanks for the video.
That operating system is genius
great info
I remember when these were a fairly common item at gun shows and regret never purchasing one.
So its one in the morning and I'm watching this video. I run upstairs and get my Swedish model 40 and take it apart to look for cracks. I had heard they could crack, and really didn't know where, not sure how the Swedish serial numbers ran, but mine is a D series s/n, so I suspect it is a later manufacture.I didn't get the 10x out but with a bright light, I do not see anything. I could not find a dedicated video on the Swedish models, if you did, please post a reply, I searched and looked and didn't find any.
In no way a criticism but knowing how much Ian likes correctly pronouncing foreign words... The H in Lahti isn't silent. It is sounds exactly like H in Hulk or Honey. LA-kh-tee.
Was the accelerator thicker/more robust on the swedish model, I only glimpsed it in the video, but it looked more like a halfmoon than a crescent, so to speak.
The accelerator lever itself was not the problem, but the axle hole that weakens the barrel extension.
A friend of mine bought one of these at a discount, years ago, because the gun store owner thought this was a cheap copy of a Luger. He said he went back later and the guy just looked daggers at him, so he left. True story....
Hi. Another exellent video! When judging finishing quality of these guns had to keep mind that Finns were under fire shortage for everything Over million Russian soldiers fighting on our borders. Population in Finland was about 4 million people and it was miracle that we we kept our border closed. Finns get help mostly only from germany because we were war towards allied country.
Thanks for doing the video...I don't know why or if it's a difference but the Luger artillery stock fits my Husqvarna but the Luger Navy doesn't.
Why does that locking lug remind me of Tron Recognizer?
Came here from the fallout 4 mod on the nexus.
Could you actually make this full auto? You said there was issues, I'm surprised how that fluke wasn't looked further into for later developing one with full auto capabilities if it was possible. An extended mag, better sights, maybe a different length barrel and that stock would make for a neat package. I could see it used as a pdw for tank crews or engineers on the field during the second world war.
Three years later, and I'm here from the Fallout 4 mod as well, but on Xbox. I'm sure I watched it years ago, but it was nice to see this after trying it out in the game. The modder really put a lot of effort into it and its features.
I don't think the mod Lahti locks on empty, which is a shame, but I assume it's an issue with altering the default animation.
Oh, and I'm half Finnish, so it's nice to use a Finnish firearm in F4, and that it's such a good implementation.
Make a video on the Bergmann MG15 NA (I know there are still bits)
If you pulled the accelerator out of the pistol, would that mitigate the potential frame cracking with hotter ammo?
Yes!