I bought a Mosin Nagant with a hex receiver made in 1934 in like new condition complete with everything and all matching numbers for $89.99, best 90 bucks I ever spent.
Are you aware of the practice known as 'force-matching'? As the millions of rifles were re-worked / refurbished at the arsenals, the process was developed where the numbers on the bolt, butt plate , bayonet (some) and magazine were matched to the number on the barrel shank. You would actually need to remove the receiver from the stock and look at the plant stamp on the underside of the receiver tang to find the year of manufacture of the receiver. It very well could have been produced in 1934 but the date number stamped into the barrel shank designates when the barrel was produced, not necessarily the rest of the components. It would be exceedingly rare to actually find a completely all original Mosin Nagant in working condition.
@SomeMook Yes I am aware, as a collector and an arms dealer I have many high end collector pieces, including an an all match Kar98k bcd model produced in Berlin in 43 with SS stamps.
@@jasonashley4579 An all-matching German weapon is very impressive as the Germans pretty much serialized all of the parts. The closest I have is a 1916 GEW 98 made in Berlin - the only non-matching part is the cleaning rod. It does have an original Trench action cover and muzzle cap so I don't hang my head in shame about the cleaning rod. I also have "all-Matching Numbers" on M91/30 Mosin's rifles but I know that this is essentially meaningless. With refurbishment marks on the stocks and barrel shanks - all the numbers will match by default. My most treasured Mosin rifles are a pair of M39s with consecutive serial numbers and hang tags that the Finns manufactured in 1968 for Officer Marksmanship training. Both have hex receivers made in 1905, one is a Tula, the other Izhevsk.
I also have a 1934 with the hex receiver. Numbers matching. It’s in near pristine condition. Bolt is tight by Mosin Nagant standards and the barrel rifling is perfect. It has none of the reconditioning marks that would be expected if it had been reconditioned. I have several friends with hex receiver Mosins from early 1930’s. I don’t think that it is a correct statement to say none were manufactured after 1930. Russian arms plants tended to phase changes in over time from what I have seen. I’m not an expert by any stretch but I find that statement highly suspect.
I hand load for my Mosin Nagant…. I am amazed beyond comprehension as to why such a crudely made rifle shoots so accurate with my hand loads. 0.6 MOA…. Wtf???? Really? I have built custom rifles in my shop… and had to spend time with load development to get them to do that good. My mosin clunker…. 1st load test.. boom! Throws a 0.6 MOA…. I am irritated but pleasantly so.
The only Mosin that I have is an M44 carbine. It's nice but one of the previous owners chromed/nickel-plated it(yuck 🤢🤮) and removed the rear sight, slapping on a cheap red dot. It was missing the bayonet so I ordered one, along with the necessary mounting hardware and a replacement rear carbine sight for it. I've mounted the bayonet but haven't had a chance to fix the rear sight and shoot it. But all in good time. Thankfully I have a care kit so in the meantime I practice cleaning it and caring for it. Overall an informative and excellent video. 😎👍
I still have eight left from my original collection..3 hex receivers all from the 20's and 30's......5 round walls..they are all in excellent condition..shoot well...very accurate at 100 yds..they hang proudly on my wall..they have been reblued in some cases..accuratized by myself...I bought a sniper model from Big5 in Pismo Beach for 559.00 back in 2008...they had no idea what was hanging on that wall..the original scope numbers were etched in but of course the scope was newer..still..the real deal. I like mil surp..I'm 77, a veteran..I bought my first Mosin Nagant from a marine on Okinawa in 1965..a battlefield pickup for 15.00 dollars..how about that?
I’m fortunate enough to own one of those Remington Mosins. It has both the Romanov eagle Remington stamped on the receiver and the Romanov acceptance eagle the Russian inspectors gave it. So it was accepted into Russian service but never made it to Russian because of the Russian Revolution. It also doesn’t have any US markings on it so it was sold privately before the US government stepped in to save Remington and Westinghouse. The Blue Books gives it a high dollar value and I won’t sell it for anything. As you said, it’s a great piece of history.
Nice episode. I would say not everyone’s rifle was incredibly long in WW1. The British Lee Enfield MkIII rifle and the US Springfield 1903 were considerably shorter than the Mosin or Gewehr 98.
They have markings on the barrel shank that say remington and a few other differences! There's some cool videos and pics online where you can see them if you look up Remington Mosin Nagants!
I was walking through the woods with some friends of mine in early 1969 when a young man decided to shoot me in the head. And some of his friends tried to kill all my friends. Fortunately the young man missed me and I traded him 20 rounds of 5.56 ammo for the ugliest Mosin you ever saw. I tagged it and sent to the rear till my all expenses paid camping trip was up. When I got back to the states I took it to the range in Garland, Texas. I put up a sheet of newspaper at 25 yards and fired at it. I didn't hit it and I couldn't get the fired case out. The young man I got had the same problem. The chamber was deeply pitted and the bore looked like a sewer pipe. I still have in my gun safe but I have put a Russian take off barrel. It still shoots left.
I had a severe extraction problem too. The problem was that the ancient cosmoline that had been sitting in the chamber for decades would melt during firing and then congeal again and basically cement the case into the chamber. When I got it, I did plenty of conventional cleaning with solvent and patches and brush, but the problem persisted. Ultimately we took it all apart and left the barrel in an ultrasonic cleaner for around a week. Never had that problem again.
Good morning Greg, it's always a great day when you post a new video. I always try to avoid bad areas. I say a prayer that 🙏 no situation will arise where I must draw or use my weapon. Greg have you ever considered air gun Co2 bb or guns that are replicas of real guns. I have some that are replicas like a glock 19 gen3, a PPK/S and a 1911. They fit in the same holsters as their powder burning versions. Also full size copies in 22lr. I'm bringing this up because, I learned about a gun powder shortage, which bring empty shelves and steep prices. Whilst they won't have the recoil of the regular defensive carry guns we can still practice drawing and trigger control.
BTW, the US Model 1916 was issued to United States Marine Expeditionary Force which occupied Arkhangelsk during the Civil War. SIG also manufactured Mosin Nagants. Any SA marked Mosin Nagants were used by Finland. Chinese T53s are Russian M44s made on Soviet machinery given to China, where some later T53s had upgraded triggers and receivers. The early T53s are even stamped in Cyrillic with Russian roll marks, not Chinese. The bolt handle works as a third locking lug. Mosin ball ammo and .30-06 ball have identical performance. Because of the rotating bolt head and conical breach, headspace is improved leading to better accuracy. So much so that during WWII until 1943 Russian sniper rifles were more accurate than Mauser 98s according to the NAZIs themselves. As a round 7.62x54r is between .30-06 and .308 in power yet operating within the pressure curve of the 7.92x57 Mauser (56000 PSI). In the Ukraine the most common encountered Mosins are M91/30 PU sniper rifles mostly used by Donbass militia while the Ukrainian NAZIs have actually modernized the Mosin with a chassis and a heavy barrel using modern optics. As a sniper rifle the Mosin in the kruk chassis is as accurate as an American M40 or M24 in 7.62N. Despite the split bridge receiver, the Mosin actually offers better accuracy potential than the Mauser system due to the rotating bolt head and conical breech contributing to better headspace and accuracy.
I don’t want to be mean but you made the Mosin Nagant 91/30 the most boring thing in only 4 minutes. Come to life already! They are Russian milsurps that mostly all came in excellent condition and dirt cheap!
I bought a Mosin Nagant with a hex receiver made in 1934 in like new condition complete with everything and all matching numbers for $89.99, best 90 bucks I ever spent.
Are you aware of the practice known as 'force-matching'? As the millions of rifles were re-worked / refurbished at the arsenals, the process was developed where the numbers on the bolt, butt plate , bayonet (some) and magazine were matched to the number on the barrel shank. You would actually need to remove the receiver from the stock and look at the plant stamp on the underside of the receiver tang to find the year of manufacture of the receiver. It very well could have been produced in 1934 but the date number stamped into the barrel shank designates when the barrel was produced, not necessarily the rest of the components. It would be exceedingly rare to actually find a completely all original Mosin Nagant in working condition.
@SomeMook Yes I am aware, as a collector and an arms dealer I have many high end collector pieces, including an an all match Kar98k bcd model produced in Berlin in 43 with SS stamps.
@@jasonashley4579 An all-matching German weapon is very impressive as the Germans pretty much serialized all of the parts. The closest I have is a 1916 GEW 98 made in Berlin - the only non-matching part is the cleaning rod. It does have an original Trench action cover and muzzle cap so I don't hang my head in shame about the cleaning rod. I also have "all-Matching Numbers" on M91/30 Mosin's rifles but I know that this is essentially meaningless. With refurbishment marks on the stocks and barrel shanks - all the numbers will match by default. My most treasured Mosin rifles are a pair of M39s with consecutive serial numbers and hang tags that the Finns manufactured in 1968 for Officer Marksmanship training. Both have hex receivers made in 1905, one is a Tula, the other Izhevsk.
I also have a 1934 with the hex receiver. Numbers matching. It’s in near pristine condition. Bolt is tight by Mosin Nagant standards and the barrel rifling is perfect. It has none of the reconditioning marks that would be expected if it had been reconditioned. I have several friends with hex receiver Mosins from early 1930’s. I don’t think that it is a correct statement to say none were manufactured after 1930. Russian arms plants tended to phase changes in over time from what I have seen. I’m not an expert by any stretch but I find that statement highly suspect.
I hand load for my Mosin Nagant…. I am amazed beyond comprehension as to why such a crudely made rifle shoots so accurate with my hand loads.
0.6 MOA…. Wtf???? Really? I have built custom rifles in my shop… and had to spend time with load development to get them to do that good. My mosin clunker…. 1st load test.. boom! Throws a 0.6 MOA…. I am irritated but pleasantly so.
The Mosin was born and came of age in an era when infantry weapons were about accuracy, not volume of fire.
The only Mosin that I have is an M44 carbine. It's nice but one of the previous owners chromed/nickel-plated it(yuck 🤢🤮) and removed the rear sight, slapping on a cheap red dot. It was missing the bayonet so I ordered one, along with the necessary mounting hardware and a replacement rear carbine sight for it. I've mounted the bayonet but haven't had a chance to fix the rear sight and shoot it. But all in good time. Thankfully I have a care kit so in the meantime I practice cleaning it and caring for it. Overall an informative and excellent video. 😎👍
Shoot my m44 about once a month yes we do still shoot in the UK for now😊😊😊
Love my all original circa 1893 Garbage Rod. Incredibly accurate.
mine's like a tree limb with a gun sticking out of it
I still have eight left from my original collection..3 hex receivers all from the 20's and 30's......5 round walls..they are all in excellent condition..shoot well...very accurate at 100 yds..they hang proudly on my wall..they have been reblued in some cases..accuratized by myself...I bought a sniper model from Big5 in Pismo Beach for 559.00 back in 2008...they had no idea what was hanging on that wall..the original scope numbers were etched in but of course the scope was newer..still..the real deal. I like mil surp..I'm 77, a veteran..I bought my first Mosin Nagant from a marine on Okinawa in 1965..a battlefield pickup for 15.00 dollars..how about that?
I’m fortunate enough to own one of those Remington Mosins. It has both the Romanov eagle Remington stamped on the receiver and the Romanov acceptance eagle the Russian inspectors gave it. So it was accepted into Russian service but never made it to Russian because of the Russian Revolution. It also doesn’t have any US markings on it so it was sold privately before the US government stepped in to save Remington and Westinghouse. The Blue Books gives it a high dollar value and I won’t sell it for anything. As you said, it’s a great piece of history.
James reeves TFB TV has done a hilarious video of a Bubba Mosin in 500 S and W magnum. Imagine if that was standard calibre for the rifle 😳😂
Saw the vid!... I'd take one!😅
@@lukasstrne3780 so would I 😃
True 👍
I like the look of the laminated wood.😮👍
The Mosin Nagant rifle borrowed somehow from the 1874 M80 Gras rifle from France.
I read once that some us troops were issued American mosins and hated them
Nice episode. I would say not everyone’s rifle was incredibly long in WW1. The British Lee Enfield MkIII rifle and the US Springfield 1903 were considerably shorter than the Mosin or Gewehr 98.
I have 1934 Tula 91/30 and a 1943 91/59 both beautiful will never part
Does anyone know what the brass circle with the number 80 screwed into the side of the stock means on a mosin
Have an 1891 Mosin made in 1899.
How can you identify a US made Remmington?
They have markings on the barrel shank that say remington and a few other differences! There's some cool videos and pics online where you can see them if you look up Remington Mosin Nagants!
Finnish capture M91 rifles from the Winter War of 1939 are identified by the letters SA on the left side of the receiver.
I was walking through the woods with some friends of mine in early 1969 when a young man decided to shoot me in the head. And some of his friends tried to kill all my friends. Fortunately the young man missed me and I traded him 20 rounds of 5.56 ammo for the ugliest Mosin you ever saw. I tagged it and sent to the rear till my all expenses paid camping trip was up. When I got back to the states I took it to the range in Garland, Texas. I put up a sheet of newspaper at 25 yards and fired at it. I didn't hit it and I couldn't get the fired case out. The young man I got had the same problem. The chamber was deeply pitted and the bore looked like a sewer pipe. I still have in my gun safe but I have put a Russian take off barrel. It still shoots left.
I had a severe extraction problem too. The problem was that the ancient cosmoline that had been sitting in the chamber for decades would melt during firing and then congeal again and basically cement the case into the chamber.
When I got it, I did plenty of conventional cleaning with solvent and patches and brush, but the problem persisted. Ultimately we took it all apart and left the barrel in an ultrasonic cleaner for around a week. Never had that problem again.
The Finns had the best variation!...M39!
Model 28-30 have better barrels...
@@kerryddepew674 I prefer the 28-30 as well. M28 with SIG barrel is also accurate.
Good morning Greg, it's always a great day when you post a new video. I always try to avoid bad areas. I say a prayer that 🙏 no situation will arise where I must draw or use my weapon.
Greg have you ever considered air gun Co2 bb or guns that are replicas of real guns. I have some that are replicas like a glock 19 gen3, a PPK/S and a 1911. They fit in the same holsters as their powder burning versions. Also full size copies in 22lr. I'm bringing this up because, I learned about a gun powder shortage, which bring empty shelves and steep prices. Whilst they won't have the recoil of the regular defensive carry guns we can still practice drawing and trigger control.
A lot of cuts for an "uncut".
Mosin nagant great rifles I love mine
BTW, the US Model 1916 was issued to United States Marine Expeditionary Force which occupied Arkhangelsk during the Civil War.
SIG also manufactured Mosin Nagants.
Any SA marked Mosin Nagants were used by Finland.
Chinese T53s are Russian M44s made on Soviet machinery given to China, where some later T53s had upgraded triggers and receivers. The early T53s are even stamped in Cyrillic with Russian roll marks, not Chinese.
The bolt handle works as a third locking lug. Mosin ball ammo and .30-06 ball have identical performance. Because of the rotating bolt head and conical breach, headspace is improved leading to better accuracy. So much so that during WWII until 1943 Russian sniper rifles were more accurate than Mauser 98s according to the NAZIs themselves. As a round 7.62x54r is between .30-06 and .308 in power yet operating within the pressure curve of the 7.92x57 Mauser (56000 PSI).
In the Ukraine the most common encountered Mosins are M91/30 PU sniper rifles mostly used by Donbass militia while the Ukrainian NAZIs have actually modernized the Mosin with a chassis and a heavy barrel using modern optics. As a sniper rifle the Mosin in the kruk chassis is as accurate as an American M40 or M24 in 7.62N.
Despite the split bridge receiver, the Mosin actually offers better accuracy potential than the Mauser system due to the rotating bolt head and conical breech contributing to better headspace and accuracy.
Nobody likes a know -it-all.
Sig made barrels for the Mosin, which can most often be found on Finnish civil guard rifles.
@JoshRockolla
No, during WWI there were SIG manufactured Mosins.
@@wizardofahhhs759
Enjoy your bliss.
Saw them carried by VC while in Vietnam (173rd ABN BDE LRRP)
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Cuba’s have those rifles in service with their Commie militia. They are in great conditions.
I don’t want to be mean but you made the Mosin Nagant 91/30 the most boring thing in only 4 minutes. Come to life already! They are Russian milsurps that mostly all came in excellent condition and dirt cheap!
Great episode, so much for it being just another cheap Russian gun.