Lectric XP Battery Replacement and Comparison Test
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2021
- I purchased a replacement battery for the LECTRIC XP off Ali Express in order to upgrade the mileage I get. The biggest replacement available is a 14ah batetry compared to the current 10.4 in my 1.0 XP. For this test i did a 5 mile course. The results were I had 52.6 voltage left on the 10.4ah after five miles, after 5 miles on the 14ah the voltage was only at 53.1. It seems the new battery is definitely bigger than the original.
www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
Definitely be interest in longer range to see the difference. Thanks for showing this!
Chris ~ In PAS mode 3 on my field data on a flat road course, I got 28 miles with my stock 10.4 Ah battery and 32 miles with my AliExpress 14 Ah battery. Based on the results of those ranges and using the 10.4 Ah battery as a benchmark, the 14 Ah battery equated to 11.9 Ah. I did not use any human power while collecting this data. I just pedaled enough to cause the pedal assist to kick in and never took the bike out of first gear.
Interesting I have about 25% of the first charge left, (30 miles so far) going to see how many more miles I can get in pas 2/3
@@seanwan30 ~ no, likely weigh had very little to do with the different results. I weigh less than 20 lbs more than Chris. Speed is likely the difference. I've collected hundreds of miles of data related to the 48 volt e-bike's ranges. Here are a couple examples using the simple distance formula [amp hour / amps x speed = distance. Example #1 ~ using a 10.4 Ah battery @ 10 mph the range will be approx. 34 miles ~ @ 15 mph the range will be approx. 29 miles ~ @ 20 mph the range will be approx. 24 miles ~ @ 25 mph the range will be approx. 14 miles ~~ Example #2 ~ using a 14 Ah battery @ 10 mph the range will be approx. 47 miles ~ @ 15 mph the range will be approx. 38 miles ~ @ 20 mph the range will be approx. 31 miles ~ @ 25 mph the range will be approx. 18 miles ~ This is based on controlled conditions: flat paved road with no head or tail winds. Here's a link one of the videos that I made on this subject : ruclips.net/video/J7FumU79pxc/видео.html 👍
it's hard to do a fair capacity test riding, there's too many variables. best to use a battery testing system like the cba-iv. my AliExpress battery was a little exaggerated, but still a good value for the money if it lasts. if you need 20 ah I'd suggest buying a 30 ah. look at the volume of the battery compared to known good battery capacities...
@RealJohnnyDingo any sellers you'd recommend? Wanna buy an extra battery but don't wanna pay the 500 lectric charges
Just found this channel. You have the same interests I have. Nice!
thanks for watching!
Hey Chris, I've been thinking about pulling the trigger on this 14Ah battery. Is it still going strong and do you recommend it? One of the Lectric reps told me that they're original 9.6Ah for the 2.0 is back in stock. I just love the idea of having more mileage from the bigger AliExpress battery.
Battery is still doing good no issues. I hate the fact they use a smaller battery now, still very happy I bought it as I would have even more range anxiety if just relying on that 9.6
@@ChrisCrossed Thanks Chris, ordering one on Monday 👍🏻
If I could find a discarded ST battery, I would purchase an AliExpress XP 14.4 battery and replace the battery in the ST case. Owner of the XP can just purchase an XP replacement battery. Lectric price for the long range battery is more than $200 more than a good AliExpress battery.
hey chris i was wondering if you could help.it seems like your xp mod guy. first do you have stock # on 14ah for ST. also have you replace chainring? i was thinking on upgrading to 54t or more. would help with top speed. thx for help
I don’t see any ST batteries currently for sale on AliExpress. I have not swapped a chain ring before but going to put on a 11-34 freewheel soon
Chris I notice that there is a 17ah battery for lectric bike I have 2.0 what are your thoughts on this 17ah battery any suggestions will it fit ?
If it fits is a big if. When I bought my 14ah there was no option to buy a 17.
Chris, have you looked into a solar charger for the XP/XP 2.0?
I have but they are very pricey and take too long to charge from what I’ve seen
Nice review, did the ali battery capacity drop more than the Lectric one after months of use? do you know how much is the shipping cost? No issue with custom for sending that big piece of battery oversea? btw does this battery work like other lithium batteries that are better to get recharged before they drop under 10%?
shipping was around 50 bucks i think, no issues, no reason to get this anymore since Lectric just announced their own 14ah, you'd be better off with theirs now
@@ChrisCrossed ok cool thx!
Hello Chris thanks for this video, on the 10,4 Ah i was able to get a 36 mike range using PAS 2/3 average 13 miles an hour for that distance. Feel free to see my Lectric 52V Demonstration where i slapped on 2 x 52V20Ah on the rear rack. Yes it is heavy 14lbs each. But i go on for a 100 miles at above 20MPH AVG.
Awesome you have a video on that? link?
@@ChrisCrossed Hello Chris Thanks for asking here is the link ruclips.net/video/EKrJlniTTg0/видео.html
@@ridingmtl I'd like to see the video but when I click on it it says it's private. What's the trick? Thanks in advance.
@@juanescorza2984 Oh yes i'm sorry i cleaned up my channel a bit and started some editing so i made a new one where i exploit 3 batteries in 135km ride all compressed in a 30 min video Thanks for asking ruclips.net/video/pc6lvNtfPik/видео.html
@@ridingmtl Thank you Brother!
Hey Chris, firstly just want to say, love your content! Could you give an update on the 14ah Ali express battery. Would you still recommend it?
Thanks for watching! Battery still works great, no complaints.
@@ChrisCrossed From the web site they say Korean/Japanese cells though if I don't know the cell brand, I would never buy it.
I wish you'll enjoy the battery as long as you can, bare in mind that batteries' quality standard is measured in 1,000 recharge cycles per battery amperage/hour or Watt.
Usually a brand battery retains ~80% of its original capacity after 1,000 recharge cycles.
So how did everything work out? I just got a step thru for my wife and have range anxiety. How can l get another battery w/0 a bunch of hassle?
My AliExpress battery came in 30 days it was a good experience overall the 14ah will get you another 5-7 miles roughly
Hope I can find an extra lithium ion battery for the Xp 2.0 step-over, as the Lectric store is out. wonder if it's possible to build one from raw cells, or if there is some intelligence built into the pack?
Do you happen to know how to switch the case/cover without blowing one's self up?
@@benjamindalton8940 very carefully, like playing operation 😂 I bought another whopper premade battery to carry in the rear basket, now I've got a long range, all day bike.
Did u find a aftermarket battery for the step through
Do you have a parts number or a link for that battery I know somebody probably asked already but I'm losing it a little bit of voltage on my lectric battery. edit I saw the description thanks!
link is in the description
Is there a 48 V Larger battery for the XP 2.0 step through?
Lectric just came out with one, no ST aliexpress replacements
Can someone tell me the battery model number for the step thru?
Chris where can I get a larger battery for the XP Lite?
Not really possible so better off adding a second.
Hey Chris can you post a link for the 14Ah battery? I have a XP 2.0 step-over on order, 8 weeks and counting!
US $186.00 | replacement lectric xp bike battery 48v 10ah 10.4ah 11.6ah 12.8ah 14ah electric folding bike battery samebike lo26
a.aliexpress.com/_mMnBGWn
@@ChrisCrossed Thanks! How do you like so far?
@@ChrisCrossed Lectric XP and XP ST are different batteries, I believe your link is not the step thru battery but can you verify?
@@johngrima2692 there is a ST battery now search for Lectric Xp step thru battery
@@johngrima2692 The Step Over is the original name for the XP and is no longer used, Step Through is the name for the ST. There are no ST type battery on AliExpress. It may be that the case design is proprietary.
Do u have any recommendations for the step thru model?
Yes see my previous video because now you can buy a battery for ST on AliExpress Lectric Ebike Battery - 5 Things You Need to Know
ruclips.net/video/fsI2w4VtpGs/видео.html
I have the lectric xp 2.0 do you have the exact web page that I can buy the bigger size battery for my bike.
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001458888036.html
Hi Chris Thanks for the info I am looking to purchase this battery and was wondering how you still feel about the one you purchased
Still glad I got it. No issues.
@@ChrisCrossed do you happen to have a direct link to the 14ah 2.0 step thru battery? I don’t want to buy the wrong one inadvertently. Thanks!
@@servofeed the step Thru version appears to be out of stock on AliExpress, has been for a few months now. All I could find was the regular high step battery US $186.00 | replacement lectric xp bike battery 48v 10ah 10.4ah 11.6ah 12.8ah 14ah electric folding bike battery samebike lo26
a.aliexpress.com/_mLe37tw
Will this work for the XP 2.0 model?
Yes
@@ChrisCrossed thank you 🙏
Do you know if they have the st 1.0 battery
Not that I know of, I don’t understand why since the ST seems to be more popular
is this battery from aliexpress bad on the bike or it will not give any long term problems?
No issues after 1 year...
@@ChrisCrossed appreciate the response Chris.
How many miles does the stock battery get with just the electric and no petaling?
I havent tested the 2.0 battery which is smaller. I have a 10.0ah on that so perhaps a mile or two less is my guess than the original 10.4, getting a 14ah really helps with range anxiety.
@@ChrisCrossed So how many electric only on your bigger one? Just trying to get an estimate using just electric power. Also I don’t really think range anxiety exists on a bike since you can pedal like normal to get anywhere.
@@muny_man I think I got 24 on throttle only, I weigh 175 lbs…
@@ChrisCrossed that’s great!
Where did you get battery, I would like to order same one
AliExpress
Why pedal of you need direct comparison? Same course, throttle only, the difference can only be the battery then.
Any links for the step thru battery?
Unfortunately no they don’t make them for ST
Any problems with this battery in the long run?
Zero problems
THANKS!!! ;-)
Just got my new xp2.0 one month and am not getting top speed anymore, need some tips on buying a more powerful battery.
Top speed on the 2.0 seems to have been throttled down by Lectric. Best I got was 25-26mph
Your only option is the 14ah from AliExpress but it will only help your range not speed
Make sure to check your tire pressure. That's the number one reason for reduced speed and range.
Would this battery work with the 2.0 Step thru?
No, its a different shape. There was a step thru battery on AliExpress one point but it no longer appears online
@@ChrisCrossed would you still recommend this bike ? Wanna use it for errands that are about 10 miles away and for leisure as well
@@yesimontes6224 absolutely it’s the best 1000 ebike on the market
Will this battery work on the XP 2.0
Yes either version
does it work on the xp 2.0 step thru?
No but you can buy the step through version on AliExpress
@@ChrisCrossed you have a link?
@@davidparker7156 so apparently its not on Aliexpress anymore, I just searched and couldn't find it. It was there several weeks ago so wondering if it sold out. I would keep checking every few weeks to see if they come back.
So you can just switch to this battery without rewiring anything and it doesn't harm the bike?
Correct
@@ChrisCrossed So it works the same way for a Letric xp 2.0 and are there any bigger that can fit the same way?
@@ChrisCrossed And thank you for responding 👍👍
@@theallmightyisblack3339 the 14ah is the biggest that fits
does this battery fit the xp 1.0?
I think so but don’t recall if I ever tested that theory
Here in Canada it costs like $400+ for the one battery. I bought 2 off Lectric for $600+. Not really worth it for a few extra miles...at least here in Canada anyways.
Understandable
I got my replacemtb and it doesn’t fit?
Check with Lectric
@@ChrisCrossed I am
do happen to have the measurements of the battery
I dont but i think this replacement one is the same size, they have some info on the graphic www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803494609811.html
Another RUclips video shows a guy doing extensive tests with a dozen different 18650 lithium cells, from 2.4Ah up to 3.5Ah. His data showed the Chinese-made cells were wildly mislabeled and far worse than the LG and Sony cells, which were accurate in their ratings. So I'd take any Chinese cell rating with a giant grain of salt. And the LG cell was not only excellent but also cheap; Caveat Emptor.
There's some truth to that but my AliExpress battery works just fine.
Volume is all over the place.
That looks like the one they sent me except it’s 48 10 and doesn’t fit
Did you happen to ever look to see what cells they actually used in this battery?
No but I wouldn’t be too surprised if it was less
From the web site they say Korean/Japanese cells, maybe it's true but I prefer to know the brand.
Received my letter bike here in Rutland Vermont numerous calls to customer service first ride blew tire later on no power my neighbor up street had one we went thru every thing included exchanging our battery's mine worked in her bike yet hers not in mine aghhh week now two problems
Is that 14ah battery basically the same as the new Long Range Battery Lectric came out with? If it is then that’s worth it better than the $500 price they have🤣
The big question with the AliExpress one is exactly what the AH are. Some speculated it’s not quite 14.
Lectric goes down in battery size to sell you an upgrade.
The lectric 500$ battery is a rip off!
Lectric should offer the larger battery as an option. I chose the Aventon Sinch due to the larger battery. I wouldn't trust Ali express.
They really should, going to lose out on bikes with bigger batteries if they dont start offering a better option.
They didn't go high enough on the amps on this new battery 14 amps is not enough
Well I’ll be testing the range, if it gets over 40 miles I’ll be happy
5 miles is not a helpful test comparison. Info extrapolated from this short distance at full charge is probably not an accurate gauge for longer rides.
I’m gonna do a full range test on 2.0 soon
That small battery is what turned me off from buying the Lectric bike.
Definitely the biggest downside of the bike
I jus Clicked off 100 miles in my 2.0..Not impressed with range at all,I mainly ride in PAS 3.
What mileage did you get for one full charge?
@@ChrisCrossed I'm getting right around 18 miles a charge,but do have some hills where I ride.Im gonna do a test on flat ground soon.Also, Getting to 28 mph is really a task.
With the stock battery?
@@ChrisCrossed Yes,haven't pulled battery yet to check what's in it.I have an Ecotric 36v 12ah honestly think it gets better range,but haven't really tested it.
@@deansmiley8221 yeah it’s only 9.6ah , hills are a killer too
Can you tell me how long the battery is in centimeters? I need to know so that I order the correct size.
17x4 inches
@@ChrisCrossed thank you.