Even the skylight is something that a while back people would of thought incomprehensible and there it is 12,000 years old just sat there doing nothing, as much as the major structures are amazing the thought processes that go into the size and complexity of the community there is beyond mind blowing.
Doing nothing is exactly what hunter-gatherers do whenever they can. If people tried to survive nowadays and understand how much work it takes to survive they would appreciate " doing nothing".
It is pretty resourceful to dig down into the earth to create buildings. Pretty good insulation against heat, cold & wind (as long as your terrain doesn't get excessive rainfall/flooding) & cuts down on the amount of stone required to form walls. Idk why any ancient structure found is automatically assumed a temple. Modern municipal buildings are often centrally located, decorated & large. People do meet up in large groups for non religious reasons...
When this site was first brought to our attention ...they told us, "but hunter-gatherers, couldn't build this Very Ritual Temple" ... and there was no habitation.... the whole process of "getting it" is almost like the Lotus...climbing from the muck to glorious bloom.Cool to see happening....
Temples, churches, and civic centers are usually located in or near residential areas now, and I would be surprised if not back then, for obvious reasons.
Guys, it just makes sense. All that beautifully done stone work took TIME! Also a lot of community discussion over placement, carving, who would do the carving. What would be carved and why. Ye Gods, the place would be HOPPING!
just from those brief shots of the two of you walking around the site, i got a really strong sense that the 'temple' was a 'shopping mall'/ market, and the animals and figures carved on the 'temple' pillars were actually shop banners denoting what produce/service the stall holders provided....just an idea, thank you guys and all those patrons for getting this together, love it!
Fascinating, but as there are no rivers, streams or springs nearby, would enough rainwater have been available to collect all year round for this many people? Even in the summer months?
Just a neolithic stone's throw from the main "temple" area... but as yet, no walkway or info given for today's toursis to know about the residential areas. It is very tempting to see the similarly to Çatalhuyuk. Was the bowl carved from limestone? Not pottery?
Wow, i mean that must be an archaeologist wet dream to actually discover that people lived there, weren't passing through or in a state of suspended animation ffs 😂
Climbing in your house through the roof is no problem really....but climbing out is. They needed many ladders. A smart person would make ladders and exchange them for a pig's arse with his mates no doubt 😁
Genuinely curious, since the pillars are deeper in the ground, wouldnt that indicate that the living space came later? Possibly, much later? Than the "temple" site architecture ie T pillars? Also i found this recent documentary that sheds more light on the subject from the original archeologist claus Schmidt's perspective ruclips.net/video/vXJc-Y3Mf5w/видео.htmlsi=XPxxfLiNHjVuTWEm
I don’t understand why every discovered site is some sort of worship area. Everything is a temple. For me I just live, do my thing which doesn’t include some sort of worship surrounded by temples having my life dedicated to some god or whatever. The same with the people I’m surrounded with. We have our places to live and carry on with life, simple as that which I feel we were doing in our distant past. Not much different. Gezzzz! How about looking at things realistically. Thanks for your wonderful work. Not going to worship you though.
Just saw a cartoon panel I thought you guys would like. A couple "cavemen" glancing over at a very Raquel Welchy cavewoman. Eh, She's no Venus of Willendorf. BizarroComics.
In my head, I've got the notion that "temple" infers worshipping some diety or dieties. I do not see that at Gobekli Tepe. I see 2 human entities, adorned with the bounty of the land, standing in celebration of Life iself, as seen through their own experiences. They are neither looking upward or downward, but outward. Surrounding them are equals, as though in agreement saying "yes this is true. WE are all of one mind, here." There is no imagery of weapons, war, or slaughter, at least not that has been presented - and that alone ought to give pause. This absence of war materiel was also noted at the pyramids of Carale.
Those rectangular rooms have small T-pillars in them. They were sacred places. They were store-rooms for the recently dead. Gobekli Tepe was a necropolis. (The basins were for ritual washing.) (Every Jewish tomb contained a basin.) The Near East is full of necropoli, from many different eras, and Gobekli is just a very early one. From time immemorial, people spent their money (time and energy) on temples and necropoli. They might live in mud-huts, but their sacred spaces would be of stone. And there are no bones at Gobekli, because in Eastern traditions the bones were gathered up and taken home. There are no bones in the nearby Harran and Edessan necropoli either (much later necropoli). R
Really? Where might one read up on this? Are Chaco Canyon has rather a lot of grain storage, but the population seems to be in quite similar housing. Of course the south west North American sites are quite a bit younger than this. But I would like to see more along this line of thinking.
Well, the digs tend to compress time. You shouldn't think that there were homes from the beginning, especially rectangular houses; actually far from it.
Even the skylight is something that a while back people would of thought incomprehensible and there it is 12,000 years old just sat there doing nothing, as much as the major structures are amazing the thought processes that go into the size and complexity of the community there is beyond mind blowing.
Doing nothing is exactly what hunter-gatherers do whenever they can. If people tried to survive nowadays and understand how much work it takes to survive they would appreciate " doing nothing".
@@forestdweller5581 really???
It is pretty resourceful to dig down into the earth to create buildings. Pretty good insulation against heat, cold & wind (as long as your terrain doesn't get excessive rainfall/flooding) & cuts down on the amount of stone required to form walls. Idk why any ancient structure found is automatically assumed a temple. Modern municipal buildings are often centrally located, decorated & large. People do meet up in large groups for non religious reasons...
When this site was first brought to our attention ...they told us, "but hunter-gatherers, couldn't build this Very Ritual Temple" ... and there was no habitation.... the whole process of "getting it" is almost like the Lotus...climbing from the muck to glorious bloom.Cool to see happening....
Not really. People have always speculated a lot of nonsense with every archeological find.
Temples, churches, and civic centers are usually located in or near residential areas now, and I would be surprised if not back then, for obvious reasons.
Guys, it just makes sense. All that beautifully done stone work took TIME! Also a lot of community discussion over placement, carving, who would do the carving. What would be carved and why. Ye Gods, the place would be HOPPING!
Merry Christmas to you both and all the best for 2024. ❤
just from those brief shots of the two of you walking around the site, i got a really strong sense that the 'temple' was a 'shopping mall'/ market, and the animals and figures carved on the 'temple' pillars were actually shop banners denoting what produce/service the stall holders provided....just an idea,
thank you guys and all those patrons for getting this together, love it!
Fascinating, but as there are no rivers, streams or springs nearby, would enough rainwater have been available to collect all year round for this many people? Even in the summer months?
Seems to be water channeled all over the place too
Remember Petra.
Regional culture, administrative organized community...
The more we dig, the more complex our prehistory becomes. 🤟😎
Thanks for sharing.
It’s amazing how they say all these ancient sites, throughout the world, are temples. The archaeologists need to wise up and broaden their outlook.
Your happiness is infectious 😊
So cool. Thank you.
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The Prehistory Guys are playing an important role here.
Just a neolithic stone's throw from the main "temple" area... but as yet, no walkway or info given for today's toursis to know about the residential areas.
It is very tempting to see the similarly to Çatalhuyuk.
Was the bowl carved from limestone? Not pottery?
Yes, all the vessels are worked stone. I'll be posting some pics in the community soon. R
Thank You
Just gobsmacked. Thank you gentlemen.
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thank you for this
A wonderful beginning to the video.
I really admire these gentlemen and the way they can completely blow my mind without resorting to um... questionable theorizing. ;)
WATER? Is there a spring as in Jericho?
Wow, i mean that must be an archaeologist wet dream to actually discover that people lived there, weren't passing through or in a state of suspended animation ffs 😂
Climbing in your house through the roof is no problem really....but climbing out is. They needed many ladders. A smart person would make ladders and exchange them for a pig's arse with his mates no doubt 😁
Genuinely curious, since the pillars are deeper in the ground, wouldnt that indicate that the living space came later? Possibly, much later? Than the "temple" site architecture ie T pillars? Also i found this recent documentary that sheds more light on the subject from the original archeologist claus Schmidt's perspective ruclips.net/video/vXJc-Y3Mf5w/видео.htmlsi=XPxxfLiNHjVuTWEm
Palace complex?
whats underneath the dwellings ???
I don’t understand why every discovered site is some sort of worship area. Everything is a temple. For me I just live, do my thing which doesn’t include some sort of worship surrounded by temples having my life dedicated to some god or whatever. The same with the people I’m surrounded with. We have our places to live and carry on with life, simple as that which I feel we were doing in our distant past. Not much different. Gezzzz! How about looking at things realistically. Thanks for your wonderful work. Not going to worship you though.
Thanks. Interesting video. I only watch your short videos, not those hour-long and longer ones. Who does watch the long slow moving videos?
Everyone with a normal attention span
Well if you take the longest one, nearly two and a half million people:)
Me. Fact is I want as much of those fellows as I can. Rather enraptured. Count me in for ALL this quality content.
Just saw a cartoon panel I thought you guys would like. A couple "cavemen" glancing over at a very Raquel Welchy cavewoman. Eh, She's no Venus of Willendorf. BizarroComics.
city on a hill
In my head, I've got the notion that "temple" infers worshipping some diety or dieties. I do not see that at Gobekli Tepe. I see 2 human entities, adorned with the bounty of the land, standing in celebration of Life iself, as seen through their own experiences. They are neither looking upward or downward, but outward. Surrounding them are equals, as though in agreement saying "yes this is true. WE are all of one mind, here." There is no imagery of weapons, war, or slaughter, at least not that has been presented - and that alone ought to give pause. This absence of war materiel was also noted at the pyramids of Carale.
Those rectangular rooms have small T-pillars in them.
They were sacred places.
They were store-rooms for the recently dead.
Gobekli Tepe was a necropolis.
(The basins were for ritual washing.)
(Every Jewish tomb contained a basin.)
The Near East is full of necropoli, from many different eras, and Gobekli is just a very early one. From time immemorial, people spent their money (time and energy) on temples and necropoli. They might live in mud-huts, but their sacred spaces would be of stone.
And there are no bones at Gobekli, because in Eastern traditions the bones were gathered up and taken home. There are no bones in the nearby Harran and Edessan necropoli either (much later necropoli).
R
Really? Where might one read up on this? Are Chaco Canyon has rather a lot of grain storage, but the population seems to be in quite similar housing. Of course the south west North American sites are quite a bit younger than this. But I would like to see more along this line of thinking.
Well, the digs tend to compress time. You shouldn't think that there were homes from the beginning, especially rectangular houses; actually far from it.
Fact is: Science Religion different page... personally prefer proof
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There is no more danger in Türkiye than any other civilised country. It is actually more peaceful than many others.
Interestingly, it's safer in almost all of Turkey than many poor urban areas of the USA (of which there are a lot).