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Using Watercolours To Colour Other White Paint Mediums: Flashe, Gouache, Acryla Gouache & Acrylics
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2023
- A little experiment today, using watercolour paints to add colour to different white paints. Seems like a nice way to try out different mediums, if you already have watercolours, but only want to buy the white in the different mediums.
Please note, this is just for a bit of fun, and not really intended as a long term artists' quality replacement for the actual mediums. I didn't get into how lightfastness is affected, or how mixing binders might affect the long term stability of the binder etc.
Also, remember you are mixing with White, so the deepest, darkest colours will be harder to achieve. You could probably still get dark colours, but then you'd be using a high proportion of (potentially expensive) watercolour paint, and losing more of the original paint's properties.
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I was surprised how much the stronger wc concentrations impacted the water resistance, and impressed at how smooth the results were. Thanks for another great experiment.
Yeah, not sure about the science of how the acrylic/vinyl binder is affected by the addition of watercolour. If nothing else it will dilute its effect. I was really happy with the smoothness of the paints though!!
Ooooo! I love experiments!
I have been mixing watercolor with white gouache for a while and I was wondering if many people have done this because I have an insanely huge collection of watercolors, the medium I started with. So happy to see the above experiments of yours to validate my hunch that it really works quite well to mix with white gouache and white acrylic especially to create pale pastel colors that I like. I really love how you structured the above experiments, so systematic!
I think it's a great idea - especially for the pastels. Thanks!
I think this might be great using the big tubes of watercolour from Lukas, they are very good value, are actually lovely paints though some purists seem to think some of their colours are very slightly chalky. But definitely they would provide a multipurpose colour base for acrylic and gouache, and even acryla gouache. This is exactly how paints are manufactured though darker deeper colours will have a different base other than white. The reason they are lifting is because watercolour has a soluble component, gum Arabic.
Interesting experiment. So long as your work is protected from moisture then you will have a mostly permanent acrylic result. Gouache of course remains soluble for years unless it has been fixed and even then it is quite impermanent. I have 45 years old work though that is as fresh as the day it was made.
I learned to paint with gouache in the days when nearly all advertising was designed with it, colour mixing was an essential skill and all we had was 6 basic, 3 primaries, a dark earth and black and white. Needless to say I soon gravitated to a far wider selection!
Really interesting, thank you!!
Great video! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks!
Soooo funny... Yesterday I was playing with my several 'whites' (Gouache, Dr. Martin's, white acrylics and aquarel pencils) and wanted to find out how they do in combination with pigments. I tried with a red pigment on black paper. While at work I checked what Helen or one of the others of my faves are doing these days and I found your own red-white assembly line :-) Interesting how something is just 'in the air' and can be picked up by others who operate on a similar frequency. We should try that with 'peace-thoughts'.... :-) Happy painting.
This is brilliant - love it!! So grateful for RUclips connecting me with like-minded people!
what a great idea thanks for sharing
Thanks!
Glad you're feeling better 😊
Thanks ever so much! It's been rough!
Thank you Helen for doing this 🙏🏻. It was definitely worth it and really useful to see how the experiment went.
Hope you are feeling much better 🙏🏻🤗🙏🏻
Thank you so much!!
Some really interesting results, thank you for sharing your experiments, especially when you've not been feeling 100%🙏🏼
Thanks! I've been missing mucking around with art stuff!
I always wondered if watercolors esp. in tubes could be mixed with those large (cheaper) tubes of white like pebeo white to make a gouache equivalent...just never saw any of the artists do it except maybe Sandi Hester. Glad you did this experiment!!
Not sure how it affects the longevity of the acrylic, but it definitely works!
@@helencryer good point! It works for someone like me who just wants to practice without spending the $$$$ 😉
I've never considered this and WOW. Plus, your testing approach is another WOW. I'm about to embark on some new ways of working. Thanks so much!
Lovely to hear! Thank you!
A very interesting experiment and explanation,I’m learning so much here.Thanks Helen and I hope you’re feeling well now.
That's great! Thank you - I've definitely turned a corner, and feeling a bit more like myself now!
Very cool experiment and interesting results. Thank you Helen. 😊❤
Thanks! Hope you get chance for some playing soon!
Thank you so much for your helpful videos. Appreciate your time and efforts🙏. It is wonderful to see how much we can explore with watercolor if we just have one tube of white from other media, I am curious to try it with Flashe, I am grateful for your ideas and experiments, it is also soothing to hear your friendly voice in your videos 💕
Thanks ever so much! I hope you enjoy experimenting!
I enjoyed these tests and comparisons. Thanks 😊 👋🏼
Hi! Thanks!
I’ve often wondered about this! I’ve heard other people say that you really only need white gouache to mix with watercolour; however, as they’ve said that, they have had a table full of tubes of gouache 😂. When I travel, I tend to just take a tube of white gouache with me and will mix it a little with my watercolour, but I don’t use it for an entire painting, just for highlights on top of a watercolour painting. Great experiment!!
Full disclosure: I have LOTS of gouache!! (Surprise, surprise!! 😂) Yep, I'm the same - have white in my travel palette. I only have all the gouache because I'm lazy and want to get to my favourite colours fast (or darker colours you can't achieve through mixing with white) though, not because it doesn't work well.
@@helencryer haha… yes, I definitely expected you would have your fair share of gouache 😃, which is why it’s nice that you still did the experiment and proved that it works! I think mixing white with watercolour is ideal for travel, so you don’t have to take as many supplies along, but I’m like you, If I’m home, I’ll probably stick with my many tubes of coloured gouache as well. It’s just so much more convenient. Might be nice if you stumble on a colour that you don’t have in gouache form (and don’t feel like mixing from existing gouache colours though).
Nice comparison. As one who's never painted with gouache, a tube of WN designer white gouache used with my watercolors seems an inexpensive way to try this medium.
Yes, definitely! As long as you remember you're mixing with white and so the darker, deeper colours will be harder to achieve without using loads of watercolour (in which case it's probably cheaper to buy the dark gouache paint!)
@@helencryer Thanks for the clarification.
This is really helpful information to know! Thank you!
I'm glad, thanks!
this is such a good video, such a good idea to show all of these ❤❤❤
Thanks ever so much!
Although I don’t own all the paints examined I watched with interest. Found this informative it may be interesting to see if colours alter at all in time. I’d watched another video with your Flasche paints but, didn’t realise it was paint in its own right. Hope you’re feeling better. Thanks
I'm glad, thanks! Yes, I'm not sure how lightfastness will be affected. I doubt it will be for the gouache, but it may affect things with the acrylic/vinyl.
Thanks ever so much!
Very helpful!
I'm glad!
I am not sure, but wouldn’t you get even more of the original wc color intensity if you mixed the wc with acrylic mat medium, which has no pigment (not even white) instead of acrylic titanium white?
This is an interesting concept that I also want to try out.
That would be an interesting experiment! I imagine you'd get the intensity of colour and some water resistant quality, but lose opacity, so it depends what qualities you want.
It’s a really interesting experiment, I use acrylic gouache, it’s a nice thing to know if I wanted a particular pastel shade I could use a dab of watercolour. Thanks for another interesting and useful video. I hope you’re feeling better. You were noticeable by your absence. Take care x
Thank you so much, that's really kind!!
Very interesting tests thank you
Thanks!
Interesting ideas! Love to play around myself but mostly mixing Gouache with Watercolor.😊 For professional art I would be afraid that in the long term the different binders (not with the gouache) loose/lessen their properties in the combination with the other binder and things like cracks might show up. Or they might loose their lightfastness. Golden for example explain how difficult it is to make pigments lightfast in different binders and that the lightfastness changes according to the binder.
This is a really good point, thank you! I did wonder if I ought to get into how this might affect lightfastness etc, but didn't want to go down that wormhole in this video - this was more aimed at hobbyists wanting to initially try out a new medium. I've added a note in the description box, to this effect, thanks!
The only difference between paints is the binder used with pigment. So using a clear base of any type of binder you prefer with pigment will be paint. Therefore if you prefer lets say gouache over wc then you would use gum arabic and titanium white for opacity. Whereas with watercolor you just use gum arabic.
I think gouache is opaque because it is made with larger particles of pigment than watecolour. Real gouache paints don't all have the pigment PW6 (Titanium White) in, only the more pastel colour mixes.
@@helencryer yeah there are plenty of opacity agents other than titanium white. Windsor Newton often includes a tube of white gouache with their watercolors.
Very Interesting and good searches. Thx
Thanks!
It saves $ to know that you can tint the Flashe for pastel colors but need to buy their more intense colors to not loose the property of staying put and not lifting. I appreciate your experiment 🎉
Thank you!
I am now thinking of making premixes of pastel-colored gouache in pans from watercolor mixed with white gouache to stop myself from buying pastel-colored gouache. I guess we could do the same with acrylics but would have to put them in some small airtight jars to prevent them from drying out.
I love using my Flashe paints in jars, and they're doing well at not drying out, so maybe it would work!
Very interesting video. Could you do a similar video but instead of using white/light Flashe/Gouache/Acrylic/etc paint, use a black or dark paint to mix with watercolor? You mentioned that the paints you would create would be on the lighter/pastel side; so wouldn't a dark or black paint work as well for darker, more intense colors?
As always, love your art process Helen!
It wouldn't work with black, because no watercolour pigments would be able to colour it (unless they had white in, which would produce some form of grey), but you'd have some ability to change other darker colours, eg, mixing red or yellow watercolours with a dark blue to make dark greens and purples.
Thank You for the comparison! How about using soft pastel chalk instead of water color? I have bought a few boxes of pastels and tried to familiarize with them but their nature is too dusty.
You’ve got me thinking about my stash of mica powders 😀
Interesting experiments! I'm not sure how the pastel chalk would be - whether uslt would 'dissolve' well enough, it just remain a bit gritty.
Interesting ....Flashe "acrylic vinyl paint" sounds very similar to standard household emulsion paint! I'm not a purist and use anything I can get my hands on in my art so I regularly use household emulsion particularly for whites, beiges and greys. Usually mixed with acrylic paint rather than watercolour (I'll try that though!) but I do use household emulsion as an underlayer for watercolour often as it works as a resist. I don't consider my art to be fine art by any stretch ........ but I know that lots of pro artists, eg Kurt Jackson, use household emulsion all the time.
Yes! It also smells similar! I've used household paint in the past too for some projects on paper. I guess we just aren't given info on longevity or lightfastness with household paints, but I bet they'd be pretty decent!
So really, I dont need gouache other than white? As I already have lots of watercolours
It depends what colours you want to achieve - because you'd always be mixing with white, you will be making 'tints', so won't be able to achieve the deepest and darkest values.
If you don't need those much, then yes!
Love your videos, what sharpener do you use for your colored pencils?
Thanks! I use the Kum small double hole metal sharpener.
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Fascinating! What would happen if you tint Flashe with acrvlic gouache? That would suit me because I have a set of Turner acrylic gouache. It is not as water resistant as acrylic paint which is a bit disappointing to me, and pencil on top is not great. What I want is Flashe but it’s very expensive here. If I could just buy white……..
I finally got round to trying this out - yes, the Acrylic Gouache (I used Holbein's) mixes with the Flashe paint beautifully. I tried mixes with a small amount of Acrylic Gouache, and then a medium amount, and the Flashe kept its property of being able to have pencil over the top of it really well for both.
@@helencryer thank you!!
@@helencryer I bought a jar of white Flashe and it’s wonderful. It mixes beautifully with the Turner Acryl gouache. My 4 brands of pencils go on it like a dream. Thanks so much for your experiment because I never would have thought to try it, and I wouldn’t have wanted to risk my money on guesswork. I’m so happy!
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