I honestly am so happy we have you as a prot paladin main. I feel like you cover the spec so well in these videos and other classes do not know what they are missing.
These kinds of videos are amazing. thanks for help with this theorycraft and testing, is huge. I hope prot pally could be better with all this changes and all can enjoy it
I always trust your info on tank stuff more than the class discords. They will somehow look people in the eyes and say that your talent build is wrong when they have done 4x +6s the entire season
I like it when they don't even play the class they're giving advice on. 'Yeah, I've never done a 12 on your class, indeed I don't even play your class at all, and also 99.9% of the people who have done 12s play basically your build, including all the top-100 players, and also my friend I play with who plays your class and plays that build as well, but you're still wrong and they're all wrong and I'm right, and I'm so sure about this that I will spend weeks idling in this class discord in order to troll everyone who comes here into speccing the build I prefer instead.' And then that guy's build gets added to the pinned comment. And nobody plays it, including the guy who recommends it. But it's the build the discord recommends. The class discords are a surreal place.
That is sooo true.. theres always that one fkrs that keep spamming "go simm yourself" to all your messages even if it has nothing close to do with anything that a raidbot simm can answer.. I have had a great experience on the DK class discord and found alot of nice people there who actually helped me alot learning the class. However the Paladin class discord is a shit show.. i hate that place, bunch of troll that don't know the class in depth that keeps spamming any nonesense bullshit to everyone like they were actual mod for that spec when they aren't lol @supmotto
one thing with the new AS dot talent, if it does good enough dmg we could just drop tyr's enforcer for it since that's 2 points also. It'd be giga big pull loss for likely st gain, just needs it to be good enough regular pack size dps increase to justify.
Yo YoDaTV, on RIO you have slightly different build for High M+, which one will be better for new Prot pally for weekly +10 keys, later on maybe some pushing for 12
You don't usually do that imo since it's hardly relevant. I reckon Yoda said he doesn't put much thought into it and almost always uses it on himself which means the skill uses the built in prio system (afaik melee dps>ranged dps>healer). If you REALLY wanna know for some reason you can just display the icon on the partyframe of the player that currently has it. It's an aura buff that you can track like any other. Also you're saying "which ones" which suggests multiple people other than yourself. That's not how sacred weapon works. It's always you as the Paladin + exactly one other party member that gets the buff.
Hello o/ Thanks for that video and explications ! Ik we don't exactly know how it's going to be, but the wings/sentinel is very blury: The patch note says "Avenging Wrath now increases Critical Strike chance by default." and "The following talents have been removed: Avenging Wrath: Might" (which gives the crit on the wings, seems legit as they made it baseline) so it means we can have sentinel with crit, right ? But we all see WoWhead talent calculator showing the nods still exists, and you're still saying that we should take crit wings and not sentinel. Is it me that missed something ? It's confusing, I guess we'll see tomorrow !
Many People oversee the talent "Tyr's Enforcer" it pushes your dmg by 7-10 % on Trash packs! But how can u not pick "Refining Fire" its the main dmg output on Trash packs?! Its completly broken
@@jamesbatacan4364 Yeah, Yoda himself is taking it always which we can see from his logs. So seems he posted this prior to release and the talent wasnt working on ptr so it can live as a surprise
I'm getting 6% DR from lay on hands with my armour increase for 8s how is this better than eye of tyr's 25% for 6s on a lower CD? You also lose the ability to use LoH on others if you keep it as a personal CD. The numbers don't make sense in my head.
You’ll prob be tankier with mastery tbh. But you wanna push as high as possible right? Which for tanks USUALLY means doing as much dmg as you possibly can because if you press your buttons well you should live most situations. The Crit/Haste build will do a lot more dmg.
@@balance1619 mastery also gives a lot of dmg, and you can go other stats after hiting the 100% block cap also, i don't wanna personally push as high as possible, just plaay with pugs and guildies... with pugs, not a single healer i played with knew how to time the dispell on Edna (stonevault) --- a 100% chance to block the tank buster on a 20sec cd cast from the boss would be great
In your video you've got Tyr's Enforcer and in the picture in your document you drop it for Improved Holy Shield and Refined Fire. In the video you slagged off improved holy shield, these two guides make no sense partnered up. ?????????????
I will never understand why they took buffs from pally, it was one of the main reasons pally was so popular. it was a staple of the entire class, that and auras. Right now we are make believe warriors and wannabe DKs! Make pally its own unique thing and make the tanks actual tanks
Passive buffs are extremely boring. Good riddance. They should remove all raid buffs altogether. Prot pally is perfect right now, difficult to play to it's maximum efficiency, and extremely rewarding.
I honestly am so happy we have you as a prot paladin main. I feel like you cover the spec so well in these videos and other classes do not know what they are missing.
These kinds of videos are amazing. thanks for help with this theorycraft and testing, is huge. I hope prot pally could be better with all this changes and all can enjoy it
How does Templar stack up against Lightsmith in 11.05?
Darker background and this would be perfect(thats just preference xD), still good though thanks for the very helpful info :)
This is huge amount of info, for free! Thank you. Also inb4 your twitch chat “iS PrOt pAlaDiN beSt TaNk!?!”
I always trust your info on tank stuff more than the class discords. They will somehow look people in the eyes and say that your talent build is wrong when they have done 4x +6s the entire season
I like it when they don't even play the class they're giving advice on.
'Yeah, I've never done a 12 on your class, indeed I don't even play your class at all, and also 99.9% of the people who have done 12s play basically your build, including all the top-100 players, and also my friend I play with who plays your class and plays that build as well, but you're still wrong and they're all wrong and I'm right, and I'm so sure about this that I will spend weeks idling in this class discord in order to troll everyone who comes here into speccing the build I prefer instead.'
And then that guy's build gets added to the pinned comment. And nobody plays it, including the guy who recommends it. But it's the build the discord recommends. The class discords are a surreal place.
also most of the people on class discords are just there to troll and fuck with people and not actually help.
class discords are cancer, they aren't high end players. They think theory is the same as playing. Absolute losers
Class discords doesnt know shit.
That is sooo true.. theres always that one fkrs that keep spamming "go simm yourself" to all your messages even if it has nothing close to do with anything that a raidbot simm can answer.. I have had a great experience on the DK class discord and found alot of nice people there who actually helped me alot learning the class. However the Paladin class discord is a shit show.. i hate that place, bunch of troll that don't know the class in depth that keeps spamming any nonesense bullshit to everyone like they were actual mod for that spec when they aren't lol @supmotto
one thing with the new AS dot talent, if it does good enough dmg we could just drop tyr's enforcer for it since that's 2 points also. It'd be giga big pull loss for likely st gain, just needs it to be good enough regular pack size dps increase to justify.
now thats how every guide should be , Thanks
You have a link for the google word file? Thanks for the guide!
The link is in the URL and in the description
Yo YoDaTV, on RIO you have slightly different build for High M+, which one will be better for new Prot pally for weekly +10 keys, later on maybe some pushing for 12
bro is rank 1 tank on murlok and no one is actually listening to him, you should.
He misses important talents and will find out by himself that this is not the right way. Doesn't matter how good he plays :)
refine fire is legit my second most dmg after instances, not taking this is a HUGE dmg loss
@@Einarr_Norge exactly, doing 1,2 m dps overall rn
@@scenejack yeah i got to 1.~ M as well now, i think yoda changed some talents in his doc now and takes refined as well
Did I imagine that we were supposed to get crit wings baseline?
Vengeance, I beg you❤️
He made one like 2 months ago and the spec hasn't changed a bit.
I have a 6/6 heroic shield, should i just craft a 1H and then craft something else for the crafted buff?
I still like eye for pulls, man. Good aggro magnet too
How do you track which ones in your party have the Sacred Weapon? If you even do that
You don't usually do that imo since it's hardly relevant. I reckon Yoda said he doesn't put much thought into it and almost always uses it on himself which means the skill uses the built in prio system (afaik melee dps>ranged dps>healer). If you REALLY wanna know for some reason you can just display the icon on the partyframe of the player that currently has it. It's an aura buff that you can track like any other.
Also you're saying "which ones" which suggests multiple people other than yourself. That's not how sacred weapon works. It's always you as the Paladin + exactly one other party member that gets the buff.
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Hello o/
Thanks for that video and explications !
Ik we don't exactly know how it's going to be, but the wings/sentinel is very blury: The patch note says "Avenging Wrath now increases Critical Strike chance by default." and "The following talents have been removed: Avenging Wrath: Might" (which gives the crit on the wings, seems legit as they made it baseline) so it means we can have sentinel with crit, right ? But we all see WoWhead talent calculator showing the nods still exists, and you're still saying that we should take crit wings and not sentinel.
Is it me that missed something ? It's confusing, I guess we'll see tomorrow !
Many People oversee the talent "Tyr's Enforcer" it pushes your dmg by 7-10 % on Trash packs!
But how can u not pick "Refining Fire" its the main dmg output on Trash packs?! Its completly broken
Refining Fire was doing 7-10% my overall dps on ST and more in AOE. So I feel this may need a little tweaky-poo
Same for me too, dropped tyrs for it and it pumps so hard.
@@jamesbatacan4364 Yeah, Yoda himself is taking it always which we can see from his logs. So seems he posted this prior to release and the talent wasnt working on ptr so it can live as a surprise
hi ! how can i get your class weakaura on pally ??
a big video great .
thx yoda
Refining fire is just must have talent so…
default build without bop? but you have spellwaring in left tree? this build cannot even be applied lol
I'm getting 6% DR from lay on hands with my armour increase for 8s how is this better than eye of tyr's 25% for 6s on a lower CD? You also lose the ability to use LoH on others if you keep it as a personal CD. The numbers don't make sense in my head.
Because you heal yourself to full without using a gcd, you save mana and time from not casting wog
Is templar complete doodoo now?
Before i did meh dmg and was squishy.. just ran a heroic and hitting 900k dps isnt uncommon
what if you pick improved holy shield with a mastery build, for 100% block chance on spells?
You’ll prob be tankier with mastery tbh. But you wanna push as high as possible right? Which for tanks USUALLY means doing as much dmg as you possibly can because if you press your buttons well you should live most situations. The Crit/Haste build will do a lot more dmg.
@@balance1619 mastery also gives a lot of dmg, and you can go other stats after hiting the 100% block cap
also, i don't wanna personally push as high as possible, just plaay with pugs and guildies...
with pugs, not a single healer i played with knew how to time the dispell on Edna (stonevault) --- a 100% chance to block the tank buster on a 20sec cd cast from the boss would be great
@@reversamente sounds like a +4 key problem
@@omertablythex agreed
@@omertablythex no, in +4 key you don't even feel the big hits, on 10+ keys and above bosses like edna can hit 15m every 20s
Two words: Dark Mode.
Next time add 4 extra word to your criticism.. "Thanks for the video, Dark Mode".. 🤨
@@Mod0Virus good suggestion. Will do.
how can i view this google doc
guys is there anyway to get Yoda's Ui?
In your video you've got Tyr's Enforcer and in the picture in your document you drop it for Improved Holy Shield and Refined Fire. In the video you slagged off improved holy shield, these two guides make no sense partnered up. ?????????????
Our damage is about to get nerfed because of refining fire...
I will never understand why they took buffs from pally, it was one of the main reasons pally was so popular. it was a staple of the entire class, that and auras. Right now we are make believe warriors and wannabe DKs! Make pally its own unique thing and make the tanks actual tanks
Paladin is extremely unique and has the most utility in the game
Passive buffs are extremely boring. Good riddance. They should remove all raid buffs altogether. Prot pally is perfect right now, difficult to play to it's maximum efficiency, and extremely rewarding.