Was going to return them after watching this review. Decided to give them a chance and went for a run. Result, love the shoe. One of the best shoe in 2023. Super impressed. Went tru to size.
@@seppuku- Not only bigger guys but also older guys like me. When I started running competively in 1979 I could run in any shoe, nowadays I prefer the softest shoes like the More V5 or this 1080 V13.
Thanks for the video, although I don't really agree with some of your negative comments. I purchased a pair of 1080v13 several weeks ago for a variety of reasons. I'm 64 and have been struggling with arthritis in my right knee. I've been running in Saucony Endorphin Speed since version 1 and I needed a shoe to run lots of slow zone 2 or base running. It has taken several runs to get comfortable with how it works, but I'm now pretty happy with my pair. As for fit, I don't find them too narrow, although I did go up 1/2 a size. That's not unusual for me. I take a US 10.5 in my Speed 3 wide, but US 11 in my Speed 3 standard width. This is my first pair of 1080, of any version, so I have nothing to compare it to, but I am happy with them. The price is an issue, although it is the same price as the Speed 3 in Australia. I tried the Nike Invincible 1 and couldn't run in them (I took them back after just 2 runs). That shoe was way softer that this shoe. IMO the 1080v13 is a great easy/long run shoe, although, at my age, I'm not looking to run faster runs in it right now. I won my club's cross country championship this year, and am not looking at any races in the foreseeable future. I'm happy to just be running again, with the aid of my 1080v13. In a few months, when the strength program my physiotherapist has given me, starts to work, I'll start to look at my half wore Speed 3. Until then, these shoes are fine.
be on the lookout for the New Balance Super Comp Trainer v4 and the Balos coming out in August of 2024 these are said to be some very comfortable running / walking shoes.
Most of the complaining comes from the reviews on the NB website. Other review sites (Believe in the Run, Road Trail Run, Doctors of Running, etc.) all liked the shoe as well. The shoe doesn't suit my purposes, but I think it can work well for people looking for a daily trainer or something specific for long/recovery runs.
This premise seems to be what's called click bait. He gives it 1 star to support his own biased narrative. A 1 star shoe is one where the outsole falls off within the first couple of weeks. This is of course not a 1 star shoe.
Late to the party here but a lot of people have this as the shoe of the year for daily ez trainers. So I don't get the negative reviews as well. Seems like it's this vs Nova Blast 4 for the category.
Ben, it was your review many years ago that first got me in to the 1080 series - I purchased v10 back then and it remains my favourite daily trainer of all time. I got through 5 pairs in total but sadly they're no longer available. I tried v11 which had major heel cup/slippage issues, and v12 which was ok but a bit dull (and ran a size too long). I'm very happy with v13 so far but you're right, it's too soft to be a do it all shoe which is a bit of shame. I am loving it for easy / slow recovery runs though and so it's slotted quite nicely in to my rotation - it's extremely comfortable. And totally agree on narrowness issue - I had to go with the wide version.
I loved to v10, too!! The v11 was okay, the v12 is a bit "bulky". I just bought my 3rd pair of the v12, and I guess I will switch to other "do it all" shoes for the next, maybe the saucony triumph.
I bought this shoe two weeks ago because I'm a tall runner (197 cm, 85 kg) and because I had some issues with shin splints. After trying a lot of things to get rid of the pain in my shins I tried to find a shoe as soft as possible to reduce the force that goes through my shins. In my opinion it helped me to reduce the pain but I can confirm that it is only a shoe for your easy runs because you loose a lot ground feeling and energy while running fast. But for easy and easy long runs this shoe was worth the money.
A high drop shoes like the Mizuno's Wave Rider have helped me to get rid of shin splints. The higher the drop a running shoes have, less stress required from the feet and calves, but your upper legs and glutes will do a bit more job. I kept switching the Rider with 12mm drop and other shoes from 8mm and 10mm, and in years now, I never had shin splints. Got to be careful with those high stack ultra cushioning shoes stress more the glutes and upper quads since it tricks the feet and calves thinking that they did not have to work hard ,because the impact was "softer". So, it is a good idea to get a higher stack of cushioning shoes that are also low drop ... and for that matter, the NB More seems awesome with its 4mm drop only.
@@MiracleWarriorslol...i had heel spur and shin splints...can confirm zero shoes, namely Altra helped me....when i run in 12 mm brooks ghost ot mizuno rider- i have pain the next day 😅😊
Point is that not every run or train is supposed to be a heavy one. I do 3-5km on them at a 5 pace and they’re wonderful. If I wanna be more aggressive I have Adidas shoes to go for or even something carbon plated. But as a ball player, I gotta be honest: I’m running fast on court. Not out of it. So great shoe!
I have to agree with this. I’ve had my version 13s for eight weeks now and have the following: 1. Used for slow jogs/walking 10-15k steps per day (~10km). After 8 weeks the outsole has started to wear through with many flat spots and foam starting to be impacted. 2. Initial step in comfort was really nice, especially the tongue. After 8 weeks it feels like it’s bottomed out and has stayed bottomed out. 3. Initially great for long periods on foot. Now I get a dull ache in my heels. 4. Stability - very unstable in cornering or uneven ground. Though grip was excellent (until outsole wear impacted it) 6. Agree on narrowness, but the wide (size E) fit beautifully for me. Overall, after an initial endorphin rush from the plush feel I am very disappointed. The wear rate is terrible. The foam seems to need more spring back and flattens (compresses/bottoms out) with everyday use. I am heavier though (85kg) so lighter users may not get this. Stability I was aware of so I can’t complain too much and hence why I reserve it for walking/light jogs. Overpriced and underwhelming sums it up.
@@apatapolmundo5844 Im 61 kilos and I feel exactly the same, specially the point 2, which it really feels like the bottom is bottomed out at a point that the bottom gets totally squashed, very odd sensation, looks like im running on sand.
I've been running in 1080v13 for a few weeks. Only negative for me is that it isn't that breathable for summer here in Australia. Otherwise I love the shoe for daily and easy and casual wear. Much prefer it to the Invincible 2 for example. I'll use speed 3 or Boston 12 if I want to pick up the pace.
That s the same reason i went with 1080v13 . I can literally wear them as casual wear , they are not looking like the rest of running shoes , they kinda look like a pretty normal and good looking shoes .
The first time I've bought a new a shoe on it's release day, and I'm not disappointed. This is my 9th 1080 shoe having started with V9 and find that this new version (V13) the best by a long way. Perfect fit, loving the lightness of the shoes (264g in ,my UK size 8.5 - same as my V3 Propels). The price is a bit excessive however with my work Vitality membership it brought it down to £120 at Runnersneed. Would I but another pair...absolutely
Im in love with this shoes so im not going to try to be objective! You feel you are running over pillows, the sense of softness and comfort is extreme. It is not for everybody and understandbly so. The shoe withstands every distance, it is the kind of shoe that when you enter the zone you loose track of how many km are you doing or which terrain are you into cause you dont feel any kind of pain, discomfort or, at some speeds, effort. In regard to the speed, of course it is not for speed work or tempo, it is a max cushion shoe. To me it is way faster than rival comparable shoes like nimbus, invincible, cumulus or ultraboost. Ive had no problem going many kms in paces between 4’15”-4’30”, below that it is true that the shoe does not get it… done.
The 1080v13 isn't an all-round daily trainer by any means. If that's what the 1080 series is supposed to be and has been in the past, then I'm sure many people are disappointed by the v13 because it's an easy/recovery shoe for running slow. Personally, I love it for easy/recovery but wouldn't use it for tempo and any type of speed work. I had the 1080v12 but didn't like it at all. For me, it wasn't a daily trainer and it wasn't good for easy/recovery. This is way more to my liking for easy/recovery runs. I have the More v4 and that's strictly for short recovery runs after intense long runs or speed workouts. It forces me to run slow or jog at a leisurely pace. I've done slow long cruises up to 10 miles with the 1080v13 at around 9:00/mile (around 5:40/km) pace and I've enjoyed the runs very much due to the plush comfort and midsole softness and saving my feet and legs from impact. For tempo or marathon pace long runs, I use the Prime X Strung (v1 and v2), for speed stuff I use the Takumi Sen 8 & 9, for all-round daily training stuff with mixed runs I use Boston 12, Rebel v3, and Puma DN2. For races, Vaporfly 3, Adios Pro 3, or SC Elite v3. The 1080v13 works perfect for me on days I just want to pamper my feet and legs and go easy and slow. I typically run 70~80 miles per week.
what do u think of the unstableness of the 1080v13? i was getting ankle niggles doing park jogs with it also u say ur short recovery runs are purely in the more v4. what km/hr and how many km's would that look like for u? hm softer is the 1080v13 compared to more v4? i mite give it a go and just another question, when u mention ur dailies like boston/rebel/dn2, those could technically do ur other runs too rite? like tempo/speed work, u just prefer it for those all around daily training type seshes ?
@@io-rj6sk I'm a light guy (5-7 167cm, 127lbs 57kg) so stability hasn't been an issue for me. I can see stability becoming an issue for bigger/heavier runners because the foam really is so soft. For short slow recovery runs with the More v4 (about 5km), I'd go at around 10:30/mile (6:33/km) pace. With the 1080v13, I'd go more in the 5:30/km to 6:00/km range for my easy runs but sometimes as slow as I'd go with the More v4 for recovery. I'd go 7~9km with the 1080v13 for the easy runs. Yes, those daily trainers could surely go slower for easy runs too, but they are better for moderate-to-fast paces. The Rebel v3 is surprisingly good for easy paces and it being so light just adds to the fun factor. The daily trainers like Boston 12, DN2, and Rebel v3 are just more versatile for all types of runs. The Boston 12 is really snappy and on the firm side as far as the feel/ride is concerned, at least for me since I'm light. The DN2 has more of a muted and chugging-along type of feel and ride compared to the Boston 12, but it can pick up the pace pretty well. The Rebel v3 is light and bouncy and is the most fun. I had the Novablast 3 and the Endorphin Speed 3 and they are good shoes, but they didn't fit my feet very well and I just prefer the feel and ride of the B12, DN2, and Rv3 more. I've kind of settled on Adidas Adizero shoes for the faster stuff and the NB shoes for comfort and the easy/slow runs, generally speaking. Adidas and NB both fit my feet better than ASICS and Saucony (and most Nike) shoes for whatever reason and they complement each other very well. Puma shoes have worked out well for me as well. I think you just have to go with what feels the best to you and what fits your feet the best. It took me a while to figure out that some shoes that have generally received rave reviews don't work for me and that it's just personal preferences.
@@giovanbattistafichera8439 It is kind of redundant with the 1080v13 but they are still quite different. The More v4 is heavier and clunkier with very little energy return. As I mentioned, I use it for slow (like 11:00/mile) recovery runs of around 3~4 miles. With the 1080v13, which is lighter, bouncier and more nimble, I'll take it on longer runs (7~10 miles) at easy paces between 9:00 and 10:00/mile.
hehe I'm about the same weight .. nice collection, I have many of these .. personally Boston 12 and More V4, I use both at pretty much the same pace, which is about 4:00/km (which is my average pace). Sure I would probably have an hard time running at 3:45 with the V4 but I think the v4 feels fine at 4:00 ... I don't have the impression that I work much harder
Thanks for the review Ben. One reason I like New Balance is they are one of the only brands that regularly offer their entire line in wider widths (my feet really splay, I need wider fitting shoes.) I live in Canada, and so was able to get the extra wide width, which fits me perfectly. So many of the new, trendy brands are just not wide enough for me. I never really intended this shoe as an all purpose runner. For that I use my Saucony Rides, which I view as one of the most underrated, consistently reliable (and lightweight) shoes on the market. If I want to do more uptempo work I use my New Balance Rebels, which are also quite soft, light, though they are really good at picking up the pace. As someone who is recovering from injury and looking into finally getting back into marathons, I've never actually used a race shoe so at the moment my lineup is 1080 for LSD runs and recoveries, Rebel v3 for uptempo, Saucony Speed 3 for longer efforts at faster/threshold paces, plus a Saucony Ride 16 as a shoe I can use for anything. Weird that they do not offer extra wides in Europe. I hope this is not a trend of all brands abandoning wider options.
Got this trainers 2 months ago. Very comfortable!!!!! Love it, I wear a size 7.5 on my left foot and 8 on my right. I got them in 7.5. . Fitted snug at first. Perfect fit after about couple of wears. Looking to buy my next pair. I’m obsessed with these trainers
SC Trainer v3 is only $15 more expensive here in the US and is a much more versatile shoe. I don't mind the softness, but I can't justify spending so much on a shoe with EVA foam and no plate
I have the 1080 V13 for few months and I absolutely agree with Ben on the downside. I can only wear this pair for daily walking/buying groceries. I went for a 20K easy run and it takes so much energy from your legs; cannot pick up the pace and my shins hurt after the run.
It's not surprising at all, all new balance running shoes are way to soft / mushy to be of any use to me, and totally agree with peg 40 - brilliant daily shoe, way cheaper and always discounted !! Hope running shoe trend that softer / mushy / unnecessary high stack - will end at some point
I bought a pair of More v4 as I'm a pretty slow runner but even for me on that shoe, the foam just seemed to absorb your effort. I was running even slower at more effort. Quickly consigned to the walking shoe pile.
I've always had sizing issues with NB shoes. Every reviewer (apart from Fordy) said that it is 'true to size'. I use UK 9 for Nike, Puma, Asics, but UK 9 is too short, and narrow in case of NB. The other issue is UK 9.5 is not easily available.
Went to the store tried the ASICS numbus 26 the Brooks glycerin 21 and the new balance 1080 V 13. Don’t believe what people tell you. Try them on because everyone has different feet shapes and different expectations. I was never considering buying the 1080 but that’s the shoe that impressed me the most. I enjoy running in them.
I have these in all white, I’m 180lbs and I love these shoes, I’ve ran over 200 miles in them and just finished my first half marathon in them over the weekend. They’re extremely comfortable for me with my wide feet, no complaints at all. I think i may buy another pair soon or get the v14 if they end up being better
stop giving these brands a bad shoe review because they aint good for runners some of us love these shoes and other comfort shoes like this!! They got me, I am disabled right leg destroyed saved with rods, and screws, and reconstructive surgery, ankle does not bend and I own all the max cushion shoes from almost every Brand the nimbus 25s Nike invincible run 2 and 3 New Balance SCT v1 and 2 1080v12 slip ons 1080 v13 blue ones love them also!! SC Elite v4 my walking shoe! loving it! On cloudsurfer love this shoe, also got this and the 1080 v13s for my mother and father and also got my dad the gel nimbus 25 and he has just about worn it out his favorite shoe! I am finally ready to give Hoka another shot going to get the new Cx1 or w/e it is, it looks nice n comffy also, but yes these brands are winning more than just the running crowd over with these super thick comfy running shoes the runners may not love them but we sure do I am speaking for the folks on their feet all day the nurses Doctors, Dentists, car sales men/women pay attention next time your out they are all waering max cushion type shoes and if they ain't tell them about them!!!!let the shoe revolution begin!!!!!!
The justified negative reviews are really about how annoyed people are that they've ruined this shoe. The V10s were perfect, the V11s almost perfect and they've systematically removed all the best things about them. Why?!! I will be switching to the Novablasts when my stock of old v10s and v11s run out. Very sad to say goodbye to the 1080s
My partner almost threw a party when he'd done enough mileage on the V12s and could dump them 🎉 I got so bored with the Nike Pegasus series as a daily trainer... 😝 We both made the switch to Novablast 3. So much more fun 😁
I must say I like the softer more cushioned styles Iv got the More 4s and the Fuel Cell SC I find them both highly responsive unlike the updated Saucony Endorphin Shifts which have become so firm under foot - I feel like I’m thudding, there’s no return from the sole whatsoever - each to there own I guess !
NB marketed this shoe completely wrong by giving the impression it is an all round shoe. I've got this shoe and very happy with it for my recovery runs and longer runs up to ten miles it's extremely comfortable and light on foot. If you require a more versatile shoe go for the Saucony Triumph 21 my favourite every day shoe.
Just got this shoe to try as I went through two pairs of Nimbus 25 and wanted to try something different. Love that it seems to force more fore- to mid-foot strike for me due to a lower drop (I think this is 6mm while Nimbus is 8mm?) so my knees are happier. The two runs I've taken this shoe on so far had felt effortless and I think it's a keeper. The cushion does have a slight sinking feeling but I haven't felt that it's sucking energy yet. Maybe it's because I'm already used to the plush Nimbus 25. I do question the durability and how fast the foam will flatten and wear out though, because right now fresh out of the box it feels so nice but I can see that over time it'll feel dead. Hopefully it'll last me at least 300 miles before that happens!
I've had the 1080v11 and More V4, sold both of them, just couldn't get along with them. The More V4 felt like having bricks on my feet! 🤦♂️ so many other brands making better daily cushioned shoes at the moment, for me.
totally agree with you and finally someone who is insync with my initial judgement. was getting heaps of flak from the NB fanboys here when i said the 1080 was just tooooo squishy with no pop. and just after a week of running in them, i started to actually feel the shoe bottoming out.
as someone who really appreciates wider fitting shoes, mainly because my toes really splay, I find I only have three brands to chose between: New Balance, Saucony and Hoka. Most other brands only provide wider fits in one or two shoes across their line. New Balance provides wides, extra wides and even has a race shoe in a wider fit. This shoe fits me perfectly in extra wide. I like that as a recovery/LSD runner, for tempo runs or even on race day, I can probably get away with a slightly too snug fit, as I just take the shoe off as soon as I'm done. But, for long easy runs, it's nice to have a wide fitting, comfy shoe. Another thing I've found, since I've relocated from a very flat city, to a much hillier one, is that, with high heel drops, I find myself uncharacteristically heel striking on the downhill. I am typically more of a mid foot striker. Almost as if the shoe strikes before I anticipate landing. Fixing heel lock helps a bit with this, but I don't really notice it on 8mm drop or less. The natural alternative to the 1080 is the cheaper Saucony Triumph, but I worry the higher drop will present the same problem on the downhills. (also, in Canada, the 1080 13 and Triumph 21 are the same price.) Again, thanks for the review.
Interestingly the v13s were advertised repeatedly on a sponsored running channel this week…maybe NB doing a bit of damage limitation? Anyway the wide 1080v10s have been very good for me, I hope the v12s aren’t much different. There was rumour that the the v12s were significantly lower drop than advertised, if that’s the case they will be pretty perfect for me!
Finally, the 1080 got negative reviews. I ve always HATED the shoe. Too squishy, unstable. I Like the 880 . It has a dual layer midsole soft and firm best everyday trainer ever!
I just found a new 880 v12 for $40 and new 880 v13 wide for $70. I like the v13 wide feel on the foot better walking, but I think the v12 mayyyyy be a bit more bouncy.???? What is your take? ty
Really surprised by the lack of love for this one. I have them and really get on with them. I found I'm faster for the same HR in them too. I agree they aren't super stable, but that's what the More is for. I'll be using them for easy/steady runs of 10-14km (most of my runs); they work perfectly for me for those (Longer runs I wear More v4 and faster stuff Boston 12/Adidas Pro 3). Just goes to show these things are very subjective! Also, the Nike Peg is a horrible shoe compared to this, I feel it's a little blasphemous to utter their name in the same video!😂
Yeah....there are several budget shoes that are faaaar better then pegasus. Ex. Velocity 2, Reebok Floatride. Time for Nike to retire that ancient react foam.
I'm convinced that running shoe companies are simultaneously trying to take over the hospital scene..that's why daily trainers are optimizing cushion over everything else. Nurses are now wearing gel nimbus and hoka Clifton but there's money in capturing that audience 😊
Yep I bought two pair and I also bought my mother and father both a pair for COMFORT new balance has more comfortable shoes than any other brand I also have the more v4s in grey the SCT v1 and 2 1080 v12 which I have hated the new SC Elite v4 and they are some of the best shoes I ever put on my feet for comfort it took some time breaking in my new SC Elite v4s but they are so comffy now as well!@@QronoZ713
They got me I am disabled right leg destroyed saved with rods, and screws, and reconstructive surgery, ankle does not bend and I own all the max cushion shoes from almost every Brand the nimbus 25s Nike invincible run 2 and 3 New Balance SCT v1 and 2 1080v12 slip ons 1080 v13 blue ones love them also!! SC Elite v4 my walking shoe! loving it! On cloudsurfer love this shoe, also got this and the 1080 v13s for my mother and father and also got my dad the gel nimbus 25 and he has just about worn it out his favorite shoe! I am finally ready to give Hoka another shot going to get the new Cx1 or w/e its it looks nice n comffy also but yes these brands are winning more than just the running crowd over with these super thick comfy running shoes the runners may not love them but we sure do!!!!!!!
Just bought these shoes and tried them for an easy/recovery run. Super comfortable and I think I will like these. Also tried the novablast 4 at the store but did not like them.
I bought a pair of new balance fresh foam, comparing to other running brands they are not up to standards with cheap inner soles and upper shoe material that is just meant to be light but doesn't have any value or comfort
The 1080 v12 was the only shoe that gave me shooting pains from the ball of my foot into my big toe. I’ll wait on this version until it shows up on eBay, under $50, and a store return. Current price is a no go. Too many better options for less.
I tried on a pair of 1080 v13 yesterday. Love the new look. However, the midsole is indeed way too soft. It was like a dough of flour under my feet. I was able to press the forefoot down left and right with very little effort. A bit scary really.
I bought these as a daily / recovery shoe which could also handle my long runs. (Basically one shoe to do it all apart from racing). Overall I'm really impressed! I've done strides at 4:00/km and faster and they can definitely handle speed. Admittedly they are slow to accelerate due to the soft foam but they manage to hold pace really well. I think it's down to the low weight - my UK Size 9 weighs only 261g. I can't tolerate more than a 6mm drop so unfortunately I can't run in most shoes on the market. When reviewers talk about running in the Nike Zoom X invincible or Novablast this is probably the closest I'll get to that experience. Couldn't be happier with these and I will probably log a tonne of miles in them if they hold up.
Love the More v4 for recovery and slow, long runs, so the 1080v13 is just a lighter version which works for me - just don't expect it to be the do-all shoe from previous versions of the 1080. Clifton 9 works better as a do-all shoe.🙂
I bought v12 for $70 a few weeks ago, put them in the basement and forgot about them. They don't seem at all like the V13. P.S. I just went out in then for a quick jog with the dog and I didn't hate them at all. They remind me a little bit of my Saucony Ride 13 that I still use to this day.
@@io-rj6sk I ran back home from the garage in the NB just now and disliked them so much, I returned in my Speed 2. So much more speed with the same effort can be had from the Saucony. The Ride 13 was the softest of all of the versions so far.
For me, the nail in the coffin for the 1080 wasn’t this update, it was the transition from V11 to V12. The more solid shape and hard heel cuff just don’t work for me. What would you advise as an alternative for a longtime 1080 lover, besides trying to find V11s and before on sale?! 😢
I found Novablast 3 and Nimbus 26 to be more smushy, bulky and sluggish. While unstable on sharp turns, this shoe makes me want to run straight forward. Forever. Quite the opposite of what many others experience.
Thanks for the review! I was actually contemplating buying this shoe while I was at a New Balance outlet a couple of weeks ago, glad I didn’t. I never ran in New Balance before, usually I run in Saucony, but for some reason this shoe appealed to me just by looking at it, I run in the Saucony Ride 16 at the moment and this would’ve been so much different, kind of in a negative way. I don’t like the feeling of being too sluggish on my runs.
@@io-rj6sk for a comfy cruiser I’d take the Asics Nimbus 25 easily over the 1080v13. Or for something a bit more versatile the Saucony Triumph 20/21. Or for pure fun the Nike Invincible 2 (not a fan of the 3).
@@flatfootedrunner ive tried all 3 of them but the invincibles. nimbus feels too heavy and thuddy for me. the v13 is not too bad but i dont like the unstableness. gave me ankle niggles lol. and the triumphs r too small for my feet, i get arch pain in them ;/ and the invincibles 2 seem to b out of stock lol i hope the novablast 4 will b good to me for an easy day shoe. will have to wait and see
@@io-rj6sk I find the rocker on the Nimbus moves things along, and don’t mind the weight since even though the v13 is lighter, it had no versatility for me beyond an easy day shoe. Looking forward to the Novablast 4 too. The Superblast is also an incredible shoe, but not a soft max cushion.
Sent mine back after 3 runs. As a 172 lb 6ft runner i enjoyed the v10/11.( 12 too heavy) The foam is now way too soft , i was sinking in it , felt calves and hamstrings straining. Maybe a lighter runner may have different experience. Such a shame Ben put me on this shoe years back and i will have to find a new non squishy opinion ( and unfortunately we seem to be entering a fad of high stack , squish fest with many brands)
I'm about the same size as you, 6-2 and 175lbs, I do the majority of my miles in the Saucony Endorphin Pro 2, which can be had for $80ish on Amazon right now. They have enough stack height without being too squishy, and are light as hell so they never tire your legs...I have a VERY flat foot and kinda wide in the middle and have zero issues with the shoe. I do literally all types of runs in them, not a single issue.
Thanks Ryan 👍 i use the saucony speeds in rotation and they are great ( the nylon plate as opposed to carbon) Since my comment some nimbus 25 s arrived which i will replace the 1080s with for easy runs. Still stacked and bit squishy but better than the 1080 👍
Theres something weird about New Balance. I bought some everyday/casual trainers by New Balance for the first time. I couldn't believe how narrow they were. When I walked the sides of my feet overhung the sole of the shoe. I thought maybe they would wear-in but they never got any better and got sent back. I have the Nike Pegasus 38's and still happy with these. They seem to do the job fine for me whether its a long run or speed.
Looking forward to V13 when they get priced down to clear out for V14..it took a some milage to loosen up V12 but they make a good bopping around shoe..the more4 never loosened up..many of us don't want to feel the ground pounding up our spines and so far only hoka,skechers and NB make some great comfortable shoes..everyone makes a go fast shoe that bottoms out at 10mi..still waiting for a marathon shoe that is fun to run in..
im over 200 pounds and run a 5 minute mile. yeah these shoes slow me down but the thing other shoes do is not allow me to run for the next few days having extreme pain. with these i can do it almost daily
This video is surprisingly encouraging for me! I absolutely love these shoes 😅 going to get a pair of “race” shoes so given the apparent added effort needed to run fast I should be flying come race day 😅
It makes me think.. I wonder what the biggest u-turn a shoe company has done?.. we had gopro try and no replaceable lens in their hero8 that only lasted one version.. will this shoe go back to the old style in the next version?
I well remember the difference between Brooks Ghost 4, 5, 6 and 7 versus V8. 4-7 were absolutely fantastic to run in as a neutral shoe whereas 8 was completely unrunnable. They'd basically turned a neutral shoe into a clown shoe, which is why this very video is giving me the fear.
@@Weegie2 haha. I'm a Brooks ambassador haha.. but luckily it is before I started using the ghosts. Omg. Now I'm searching through my memories old shoe closest to think of similar stories.
As a slow bigger 200lb runner, I couldn't disagree with these reviews more. The 1080v13 is my favorite daily driver. I need that cushy soft landing and seeing as how I'm not a marathon runner, they're perfect for us every day just trying to stay in half decent shape people.
You need to title the video "NB 1080 V13 not for sprinters nor ultra marathon runners" because these are for people trying to improve their moderate marathon abilities but mostly for people wanting a comfortable ride with less joint pain while on a 5K-10K run, even great for half marathons. This is hands down the most comfortable shoe for 23'/24' especially for the folks needing wide-fit and who are just getting started and are experiencing joint and muscle pain from jogging
Really like the plush feel of this shoe. It is something that you will instantly feel when you put on the shoe. For someone who are looking for soft and squishy feel, can't go wrong with this one. But 1 problem for me, is the width of the shoes. I wear my TTS US 8 on Rebel v4 and More v4, and they fit totally fine. But it seems I cannot go with TTS on 1080v13. Wide version is not available in my country.
Appreciate the review sir, v helpful as always! Sounds like it’s a bit like the Invincible v1/2, would you agree? I like the squish so was wondering whether this could be a good option purely for easy/recovery runs?
@@BenParkes nice one sir, appreciate it! Perhaps something to pick up a little down the line when it’s discounted, don’t fancy it at that retail price! If only you were a size smaller I could’ve bought yours on eBay!🤣
The change in the shoe is interesting. I’m suffering from metatarsal issues and I’ve recently been diagnosed with a Morton’s Neuroma. Although this shoe is too narrow for me it could be useful for someone like me that needs a very cushioned ride. Not fast but will protect your feet. I bought the 1080 V12 but I found them painful to run in. After a while my calves were just permanently sore. The foam on the v13’s looks a little like the Elite RC 2’s. The main difference of course is those had a carbon plate to give you the all important bounce back on toe off. I like elite 2’s. Done most of my half marathons in them…however a little like you mentioned in your review about the 1080’s you do feel like you have to work a little harder in them being the foam is so soft.
I had the more v3 and have more trail v3 and the 1080v13 now. I don't think the road version is needed now tbh and given the 1080v13 is lighter just rules out the more v4 for me. Also more v4 isn't good looking for casual whereas the 1080v13 is.
I'm definitely getting some off these ben really good for long distance running I've trained in few pairs new balance 1080 foam's I'm using my 1080 v11 at min they have been spot on it be my 130th official marathon next week my 41st for this year really pleased very busy year next year for my running 💪🏃🏼🏃🏼😁👍
I got fitted in these by a specialist store recently. I got to try on multiple different brands and go for a short run in each. In the end, these were the ones I felt were the best - for me. I was advised that I should also get another pair for speed sessions, so definitely not a do-it-all shoe, but they've felt great for me so far on flat gravel tracks, which I mentioned I'd be running on when I was being fitted for them. I think if you have the opportunity to try them on and they feel right for you, they can be a good shoe.
All these "geniuses" complaining that it doesn't come in "extra wide" 4E when it clearly does. Not to mention the regular wide 2E is already wider than most brands 4E. Shows how valid these so called reviews are. the real issue with the shoe isn't even stability, it's the insane midsole compression in the heel combined with a lower drop that causes these shoes to feel like they're going into negative drop when you're just standing around. This makes it feel like the shoe is going to hyperextend your knee. Other than that, they are really nice.
I feel companies have moved away from do it all shows as a way to make runners build a “collection” and easy day shoe, a tempo shoe and a race shoe. When I started running marathons the shoe to have was the first Pegasus Turbo, absolutely amazing shoe, I trained and raced Berlin in them. The current Peg Turbo is nothing anywhere near version 1 and 2. I think if you moaned to NB about not being able to do speed work in v13 I think there answer would be but the Rebel V3 it’s great for speed work
This shoe is the same as the Ultraboost line: heavier people love them. You won’t understand how good it feels to be able to run everyday and not feel any pain whatsoever 🤣 I’m a 6’3-6’4 190lbs Basketball player and my oh my I love my pair of 1080s.
Hated the version 12, felt dead underfoot, just lost confidence in NB lately. Your blue choice is ok, for me a little boring but then I really like crazy loud designs in my shoes 💖
Was going to return them after watching this review. Decided to give them a chance and went for a run. Result, love the shoe. One of the best shoe in 2023. Super impressed. Went tru to size.
Yeah I don't get these reviews at all, they're my favorites at the moment. But I'm also a slow 200lb runner so I'm sure that's a big factor.
I'm 400km into mine and they are performing wonderfully. Really happy.
Purposely bought them cause they’re soft. I’m over 200 lbs and have back problems. Absolutely love this shoe.
Only seems like bigger dudes appreciate this shoe. Like 170 pounds and up.
@@seppuku- Not only bigger guys but also older guys like me. When I started running competively in 1979 I could run in any shoe, nowadays I prefer the softest shoes like the More V5 or this 1080 V13.
Thanks for the video, although I don't really agree with some of your negative comments. I purchased a pair of 1080v13 several weeks ago for a variety of reasons. I'm 64 and have been struggling with arthritis in my right knee. I've been running in Saucony Endorphin Speed since version 1 and I needed a shoe to run lots of slow zone 2 or base running. It has taken several runs to get comfortable with how it works, but I'm now pretty happy with my pair. As for fit, I don't find them too narrow, although I did go up 1/2 a size. That's not unusual for me. I take a US 10.5 in my Speed 3 wide, but US 11 in my Speed 3 standard width. This is my first pair of 1080, of any version, so I have nothing to compare it to, but I am happy with them. The price is an issue, although it is the same price as the Speed 3 in Australia. I tried the Nike Invincible 1 and couldn't run in them (I took them back after just 2 runs). That shoe was way softer that this shoe. IMO the 1080v13 is a great easy/long run shoe, although, at my age, I'm not looking to run faster runs in it right now. I won my club's cross country championship this year, and am not looking at any races in the foreseeable future. I'm happy to just be running again, with the aid of my 1080v13. In a few months, when the strength program my physiotherapist has given me, starts to work, I'll start to look at my half wore Speed 3. Until then, these shoes are fine.
be on the lookout for the New Balance Super Comp Trainer v4 and the Balos coming out in August of 2024 these are said to be some very comfortable running / walking shoes.
I’m loving the shoe and have seen much praise for the shoe. The premise behind this video is definitely different from all the other videos I’ve seen.
Most of the complaining comes from the reviews on the NB website. Other review sites (Believe in the Run, Road Trail Run, Doctors of Running, etc.) all liked the shoe as well. The shoe doesn't suit my purposes, but I think it can work well for people looking for a daily trainer or something specific for long/recovery runs.
Glad I didn’t take much notice of this review, loving them.
This premise seems to be what's called click bait. He gives it 1 star to support his own biased narrative. A 1 star shoe is one where the outsole falls off within the first couple of weeks. This is of course not a 1 star shoe.
Late to the party here but a lot of people have this as the shoe of the year for daily ez trainers. So I don't get the negative reviews as well. Seems like it's this vs Nova Blast 4 for the category.
Ben, it was your review many years ago that first got me in to the 1080 series - I purchased v10 back then and it remains my favourite daily trainer of all time. I got through 5 pairs in total but sadly they're no longer available. I tried v11 which had major heel cup/slippage issues, and v12 which was ok but a bit dull (and ran a size too long). I'm very happy with v13 so far but you're right, it's too soft to be a do it all shoe which is a bit of shame. I am loving it for easy / slow recovery runs though and so it's slotted quite nicely in to my rotation - it's extremely comfortable. And totally agree on narrowness issue - I had to go with the wide version.
I had that v10, and it was firmmmm. I sold it off. Looked good in blue, though.
I loved to v10, too!! The v11 was okay, the v12 is a bit "bulky". I just bought my 3rd pair of the v12, and I guess I will switch to other "do it all" shoes for the next, maybe the saucony triumph.
I bought this shoe two weeks ago because I'm a tall runner (197 cm, 85 kg) and because I had some issues with shin splints. After trying a lot of things to get rid of the pain in my shins I tried to find a shoe as soft as possible to reduce the force that goes through my shins. In my opinion it helped me to reduce the pain but I can confirm that it is only a shoe for your easy runs because you loose a lot ground feeling and energy while running fast. But for easy and easy long runs this shoe was worth the money.
A high drop shoes like the Mizuno's Wave Rider have helped me to get rid of shin splints. The higher the drop a running shoes have, less stress required from the feet and calves, but your upper legs and glutes will do a bit more job. I kept switching the Rider with 12mm drop and other shoes from 8mm and 10mm, and in years now, I never had shin splints. Got to be careful with those high stack ultra cushioning shoes stress more the glutes and upper quads since it tricks the feet and calves thinking that they did not have to work hard ,because the impact was "softer". So, it is a good idea to get a higher stack of cushioning shoes that are also low drop ... and for that matter, the NB More seems awesome with its 4mm drop only.
@@MiracleWarriorslol...i had heel spur and shin splints...can confirm zero shoes, namely Altra helped me....when i run in 12 mm brooks ghost ot mizuno rider- i have pain the next day 😅😊
Point is that not every run or train is supposed to be a heavy one. I do 3-5km on them at a 5 pace and they’re wonderful. If I wanna be more aggressive I have Adidas shoes to go for or even something carbon plated. But as a ball player, I gotta be honest: I’m running fast on court. Not out of it. So great shoe!
I have to agree with this. I’ve had my version 13s for eight weeks now and have the following:
1. Used for slow jogs/walking 10-15k steps per day (~10km).
After 8 weeks the outsole has started to wear through with many flat spots and foam starting to be impacted.
2. Initial step in comfort was really nice, especially the tongue. After 8 weeks it feels like it’s bottomed out and has stayed bottomed out.
3. Initially great for long periods on foot. Now I get a dull ache in my heels.
4. Stability - very unstable in cornering or uneven ground. Though grip was excellent (until outsole wear impacted it)
6. Agree on narrowness, but the wide (size E) fit beautifully for me.
Overall, after an initial endorphin rush from the plush feel I am very disappointed. The wear rate is terrible. The foam seems to need more spring back and flattens (compresses/bottoms out) with everyday use. I am heavier though (85kg) so lighter users may not get this. Stability I was aware of so I can’t complain too much and hence why I reserve it for walking/light jogs. Overpriced and underwhelming sums it up.
It's not a shoe for that weight. U can't say it's a bad shoe because it's not designed for u...
@@apatapolmundo5844can u suggest a good running shoes for that weight (I’m 80kg)
@@apatapolmundo5844 so what shoes you recommend for heavier user ?
What's the weight limit for it then? I'm 186pounds 5'9 but very fit.
@@apatapolmundo5844 Im 61 kilos and I feel exactly the same, specially the point 2, which it really feels like the bottom is bottomed out at a point that the bottom gets totally squashed, very odd sensation, looks like im running on sand.
I've been running in 1080v13 for a few weeks. Only negative for me is that it isn't that breathable for summer here in Australia. Otherwise I love the shoe for daily and easy and casual wear. Much prefer it to the Invincible 2 for example.
I'll use speed 3 or Boston 12 if I want to pick up the pace.
Will work well for easy and casual! Enjoy summer down under.. sounds lovely! 😀
@@BenParkes I've been enviously watching you guys running in the heat 🔥 whilst I was wearing beanie and gloves 🧤 🏃much prefer the heat.
That s the same reason i went with 1080v13 . I can literally wear them as casual wear , they are not looking like the rest of running shoes , they kinda look like a pretty normal and good looking shoes .
Phenomenal shoe, don't get the bad reviews at all. My only criticism is they size up small. Best cushioned mileage shoe on the market.
The first time I've bought a new a shoe on it's release day, and I'm not disappointed. This is my 9th 1080 shoe having started with V9 and find that this new version (V13) the best by a long way. Perfect fit, loving the lightness of the shoes (264g in ,my UK size 8.5 - same as my V3 Propels). The price is a bit excessive however with my work Vitality membership it brought it down to £120 at Runnersneed. Would I but another pair...absolutely
Im in love with this shoes so im not going to try to be objective! You feel you are running over pillows, the sense of softness and comfort is extreme. It is not for everybody and understandbly so. The shoe withstands every distance, it is the kind of shoe that when you enter the zone you loose track of how many km are you doing or which terrain are you into cause you dont feel any kind of pain, discomfort or, at some speeds, effort. In regard to the speed, of course it is not for speed work or tempo, it is a max cushion shoe. To me it is way faster than rival comparable shoes like nimbus, invincible, cumulus or ultraboost. Ive had no problem going many kms in paces between 4’15”-4’30”, below that it is true that the shoe does not get it… done.
Had V11 and More V4, now having more daily miles with DN2 and speed 2. Novablast 4 may be my next pick.
The 1080v13 isn't an all-round daily trainer by any means. If that's what the 1080 series is supposed to be and has been in the past, then I'm sure many people are disappointed by the v13 because it's an easy/recovery shoe for running slow. Personally, I love it for easy/recovery but wouldn't use it for tempo and any type of speed work. I had the 1080v12 but didn't like it at all. For me, it wasn't a daily trainer and it wasn't good for easy/recovery. This is way more to my liking for easy/recovery runs. I have the More v4 and that's strictly for short recovery runs after intense long runs or speed workouts. It forces me to run slow or jog at a leisurely pace.
I've done slow long cruises up to 10 miles with the 1080v13 at around 9:00/mile (around 5:40/km) pace and I've enjoyed the runs very much due to the plush comfort and midsole softness and saving my feet and legs from impact. For tempo or marathon pace long runs, I use the Prime X Strung (v1 and v2), for speed stuff I use the Takumi Sen 8 & 9, for all-round daily training stuff with mixed runs I use Boston 12, Rebel v3, and Puma DN2. For races, Vaporfly 3, Adios Pro 3, or SC Elite v3. The 1080v13 works perfect for me on days I just want to pamper my feet and legs and go easy and slow. I typically run 70~80 miles per week.
what do u think of the unstableness of the 1080v13? i was getting ankle niggles doing park jogs with it
also u say ur short recovery runs are purely in the more v4. what km/hr and how many km's would that look like for u? hm softer is the 1080v13 compared to more v4? i mite give it a go
and just another question, when u mention ur dailies like boston/rebel/dn2, those could technically do ur other runs too rite? like tempo/speed work, u just prefer it for those all around daily training type seshes ?
@@io-rj6sk I'm a light guy (5-7 167cm, 127lbs 57kg) so stability hasn't been an issue for me. I can see stability becoming an issue for bigger/heavier runners because the foam really is so soft.
For short slow recovery runs with the More v4 (about 5km), I'd go at around 10:30/mile (6:33/km) pace. With the 1080v13, I'd go more in the 5:30/km to 6:00/km range for my easy runs but sometimes as slow as I'd go with the More v4 for recovery. I'd go 7~9km with the 1080v13 for the easy runs.
Yes, those daily trainers could surely go slower for easy runs too, but they are better for moderate-to-fast paces. The Rebel v3 is surprisingly good for easy paces and it being so light just adds to the fun factor.
The daily trainers like Boston 12, DN2, and Rebel v3 are just more versatile for all types of runs. The Boston 12 is really snappy and on the firm side as far as the feel/ride is concerned, at least for me since I'm light.
The DN2 has more of a muted and chugging-along type of feel and ride compared to the Boston 12, but it can pick up the pace pretty well. The Rebel v3 is light and bouncy and is the most fun.
I had the Novablast 3 and the Endorphin Speed 3 and they are good shoes, but they didn't fit my feet very well and I just prefer the feel and ride of the B12, DN2, and Rv3 more.
I've kind of settled on Adidas Adizero shoes for the faster stuff and the NB shoes for comfort and the easy/slow runs, generally speaking. Adidas and NB both fit my feet better than ASICS and Saucony (and most Nike) shoes for whatever reason and they complement each other very well. Puma shoes have worked out well for me as well.
I think you just have to go with what feels the best to you and what fits your feet the best. It took me a while to figure out that some shoes that have generally received rave reviews don't work for me and that it's just personal preferences.
so what's the NB More for?
@@giovanbattistafichera8439 It is kind of redundant with the 1080v13 but they are still quite different. The More v4 is heavier and clunkier with very little energy return. As I mentioned, I use it for slow (like 11:00/mile) recovery runs of around 3~4 miles. With the 1080v13, which is lighter, bouncier and more nimble, I'll take it on longer runs (7~10 miles) at easy paces between 9:00 and 10:00/mile.
hehe I'm about the same weight .. nice collection, I have many of these .. personally Boston 12 and More V4, I use both at pretty much the same pace, which is about 4:00/km (which is my average pace). Sure I would probably have an hard time running at 3:45 with the V4 but I think the v4 feels fine at 4:00 ... I don't have the impression that I work much harder
Thanks for the review Ben. One reason I like New Balance is they are one of the only brands that regularly offer their entire line in wider widths (my feet really splay, I need wider fitting shoes.) I live in Canada, and so was able to get the extra wide width, which fits me perfectly. So many of the new, trendy brands are just not wide enough for me. I never really intended this shoe as an all purpose runner. For that I use my Saucony Rides, which I view as one of the most underrated, consistently reliable (and lightweight) shoes on the market. If I want to do more uptempo work I use my New Balance Rebels, which are also quite soft, light, though they are really good at picking up the pace.
As someone who is recovering from injury and looking into finally getting back into marathons, I've never actually used a race shoe so at the moment my lineup is 1080 for LSD runs and recoveries, Rebel v3 for uptempo, Saucony Speed 3 for longer efforts at faster/threshold paces, plus a Saucony Ride 16 as a shoe I can use for anything.
Weird that they do not offer extra wides in Europe. I hope this is not a trend of all brands abandoning wider options.
Got this trainers 2 months ago. Very comfortable!!!!! Love it, I wear a size 7.5 on my left foot and 8 on my right. I got them in 7.5. . Fitted snug at first. Perfect fit after about couple of wears. Looking to buy my next pair. I’m obsessed with these trainers
Use these as walking shoes because they look cool and are super comfortable. Wouldn't really run in them
I like the V13.
SC Trainer v3 is only $15 more expensive here in the US and is a much more versatile shoe. I don't mind the softness, but I can't justify spending so much on a shoe with EVA foam and no plate
I have the 1080 V13 for few months and I absolutely agree with Ben on the downside. I can only wear this pair for daily walking/buying groceries. I went for a 20K easy run and it takes so much energy from your legs; cannot pick up the pace and my shins hurt after the run.
It's not surprising at all, all new balance running shoes are way to soft / mushy to be of any use to me, and totally agree with peg 40 - brilliant daily shoe, way cheaper and always discounted !!
Hope running shoe trend that softer / mushy / unnecessary high stack - will end at some point
I bought a pair of More v4 as I'm a pretty slow runner but even for me on that shoe, the foam just seemed to absorb your effort. I was running even slower at more effort. Quickly consigned to the walking shoe pile.
I've always had sizing issues with NB shoes. Every reviewer (apart from Fordy) said that it is 'true to size'. I use UK 9 for Nike, Puma, Asics, but UK 9 is too short, and narrow in case of NB. The other issue is UK 9.5 is not easily available.
Went to the store tried the ASICS numbus 26 the Brooks glycerin 21 and the new balance 1080 V 13. Don’t believe what people tell you. Try them on because everyone has different feet shapes and different expectations. I was never considering buying the 1080 but that’s the shoe that impressed me the most. I enjoy running in them.
Was it narrow compared to the other 2? I have wide feet and worry x-wide won’t have big enough toe box or my foot will overhang at the midsole
I dont understand why brands drastically change a proven/loved shoe. Some new colourways and minor changes would be absolutely be just as successful.
I have these in all white, I’m 180lbs and I love these shoes, I’ve ran over 200 miles in them and just finished my first half marathon in them over the weekend. They’re extremely comfortable for me with my wide feet, no complaints at all. I think i may buy another pair soon or get the v14 if they end up being better
stop giving these brands a bad shoe review because they aint good for runners some of us love these shoes and other comfort shoes like this!! They got me, I am disabled right leg destroyed saved with rods, and screws, and reconstructive surgery, ankle does not bend and I own all the max cushion shoes from almost every Brand the nimbus 25s Nike invincible run 2 and 3 New Balance SCT v1 and 2 1080v12 slip ons 1080 v13 blue ones love them also!! SC Elite v4 my walking shoe! loving it! On cloudsurfer love this shoe, also got this and the 1080 v13s for my mother and father and also got my dad the gel nimbus 25 and he has just about worn it out his favorite shoe! I am finally ready to give Hoka another shot going to get the new Cx1 or w/e it is, it looks nice n comffy also, but yes these brands are winning more than just the running crowd over with these super thick comfy running shoes the runners may not love them but we sure do I am speaking for the folks on their feet all day the nurses Doctors, Dentists, car sales men/women pay attention next time your out they are all waering max cushion type shoes and if they ain't tell them about them!!!!let the shoe revolution begin!!!!!!
The justified negative reviews are really about how annoyed people are that they've ruined this shoe. The V10s were perfect, the V11s almost perfect and they've systematically removed all the best things about them. Why?!!
I will be switching to the Novablasts when my stock of old v10s and v11s run out. Very sad to say goodbye to the 1080s
My partner almost threw a party when he'd done enough mileage on the V12s and could dump them 🎉 I got so bored with the Nike Pegasus series as a daily trainer... 😝 We both made the switch to Novablast 3. So much more fun 😁
I can’t find any v10 or v11 anywhere! Where are you getting them? My favorite was the v10
The novablasts were awful for me
I must say I like the softer more cushioned styles Iv got the More 4s and the Fuel Cell SC I find them both highly responsive unlike the updated Saucony Endorphin Shifts which have become so firm under foot - I feel like I’m thudding, there’s no return from the sole whatsoever - each to there own I guess !
Thanks for the thorough review, as always. Got a pair to try these out. Not bad for me so far.
NB marketed this shoe completely wrong by giving the impression it is an all round shoe. I've got this shoe and very happy with it for my recovery runs and longer runs up to ten miles it's extremely comfortable and light on foot. If you require a more versatile shoe go for the Saucony Triumph 21 my favourite every day shoe.
Just got this shoe to try as I went through two pairs of Nimbus 25 and wanted to try something different. Love that it seems to force more fore- to mid-foot strike for me due to a lower drop (I think this is 6mm while Nimbus is 8mm?) so my knees are happier. The two runs I've taken this shoe on so far had felt effortless and I think it's a keeper. The cushion does have a slight sinking feeling but I haven't felt that it's sucking energy yet. Maybe it's because I'm already used to the plush Nimbus 25. I do question the durability and how fast the foam will flatten and wear out though, because right now fresh out of the box it feels so nice but I can see that over time it'll feel dead. Hopefully it'll last me at least 300 miles before that happens!
I've had the 1080v11 and More V4, sold both of them, just couldn't get along with them. The More V4 felt like having bricks on my feet! 🤦♂️ so many other brands making better daily cushioned shoes at the moment, for me.
I'm happy to see you giving props to the Pegasus. It is very much one of the best values in running shoes. 🤙🏻
I love these shoes. I want another pair and hope they don’t change the recipe
totally agree with you and finally someone who is insync with my initial judgement. was getting heaps of flak from the NB fanboys here when i said the 1080 was just tooooo squishy with no pop. and just after a week of running in them, i started to actually feel the shoe bottoming out.
I love this shoe for my 3-mile treadmill runs. I am 60 years young, and weight 240 pounds. Great for my small segment of people.
Im loving the v13. My feet get quite sore on my longruns and this version is helping a lot for that
How are they going to differentiate this from the MORE V4? This shoes makes no sense as part of any New Balance rotation.
V4 released 2022??? So I assume the V5 release later will be different?
puma velocity nitro 2 is currently around £60
as someone who really appreciates wider fitting shoes, mainly because my toes really splay, I find I only have three brands to chose between: New Balance, Saucony and Hoka. Most other brands only provide wider fits in one or two shoes across their line. New Balance provides wides, extra wides and even has a race shoe in a wider fit.
This shoe fits me perfectly in extra wide. I like that as a recovery/LSD runner, for tempo runs or even on race day, I can probably get away with a slightly too snug fit, as I just take the shoe off as soon as I'm done. But, for long easy runs, it's nice to have a wide fitting, comfy shoe. Another thing I've found, since I've relocated from a very flat city, to a much hillier one, is that, with high heel drops, I find myself uncharacteristically heel striking on the downhill. I am typically more of a mid foot striker. Almost as if the shoe strikes before I anticipate landing. Fixing heel lock helps a bit with this, but I don't really notice it on 8mm drop or less. The natural alternative to the 1080 is the cheaper Saucony Triumph, but I worry the higher drop will present the same problem on the downhills. (also, in Canada, the 1080 13 and Triumph 21 are the same price.)
Again, thanks for the review.
Thanks… my 1080v10s have lasted very well (over 800 miles so far and no issues) so I have panic bought a pair of v12s right now! Might make it two…
Interestingly the v13s were advertised repeatedly on a sponsored running channel this week…maybe NB doing a bit of damage limitation? Anyway the wide 1080v10s have been very good for me, I hope the v12s aren’t much different. There was rumour that the the v12s were significantly lower drop than advertised, if that’s the case they will be pretty perfect for me!
Finally, the 1080 got negative reviews. I ve always HATED the shoe. Too squishy, unstable.
I Like the 880 . It has a dual layer midsole soft and firm best everyday trainer ever!
I just found a new 880 v12 for $40 and new 880 v13 wide for $70. I like the v13 wide feel on the foot better walking, but I think the v12 mayyyyy be a bit more bouncy.???? What is your take? ty
@@filoIII Yes I agree. The V12 is more bouncy, but I like them both
Really surprised by the lack of love for this one. I have them and really get on with them. I found I'm faster for the same HR in them too.
I agree they aren't super stable, but that's what the More is for. I'll be using them for easy/steady runs of 10-14km (most of my runs); they work perfectly for me for those (Longer runs I wear More v4 and faster stuff Boston 12/Adidas Pro 3).
Just goes to show these things are very subjective!
Also, the Nike Peg is a horrible shoe compared to this, I feel it's a little blasphemous to utter their name in the same video!😂
Yeah....there are several budget shoes that are faaaar better then pegasus. Ex. Velocity 2, Reebok Floatride. Time for Nike to retire that ancient react foam.
We have a budget video coming up featuring some of these shoes! :-) @@Ginguredrunner
Running shoe company trying not to f* up the essential characteristics of one of your best selling shoes challenge (Impossible)
The v12 to v13 is not a fuck up, it's wayy better rhan previous version. It sells a hundred times better in store.
@@QronoZ713oh your shop is selling it well?
I'm convinced that running shoe companies are simultaneously trying to take over the hospital scene..that's why daily trainers are optimizing cushion over everything else. Nurses are now wearing gel nimbus and hoka Clifton but there's money in capturing that audience 😊
Yep I bought two pair and I also bought my mother and father both a pair for COMFORT new balance has more comfortable shoes than any other brand I also have the more v4s in grey the SCT v1 and 2 1080 v12 which I have hated the new SC Elite v4 and they are some of the best shoes I ever put on my feet for comfort it took some time breaking in my new SC Elite v4s but they are so comffy now as well!@@QronoZ713
They got me I am disabled right leg destroyed saved with rods, and screws, and reconstructive surgery, ankle does not bend and I own all the max cushion shoes from almost every Brand the nimbus 25s Nike invincible run 2 and 3 New Balance SCT v1 and 2 1080v12 slip ons 1080 v13 blue ones love them also!! SC Elite v4 my walking shoe! loving it! On cloudsurfer love this shoe, also got this and the 1080 v13s for my mother and father and also got my dad the gel nimbus 25 and he has just about worn it out his favorite shoe! I am finally ready to give Hoka another shot going to get the new Cx1 or w/e its it looks nice n comffy also but yes these brands are winning more than just the running crowd over with these super thick comfy running shoes the runners may not love them but we sure do!!!!!!!
I got a pair made my back quit hurting and everything I love them
Just bought these shoes and tried them for an easy/recovery run. Super comfortable and I think I will like these. Also tried the novablast 4 at the store but did not like them.
I bought a pair of new balance fresh foam, comparing to other running brands they are not up to standards with cheap inner soles and upper shoe material that is just meant to be light but doesn't have any value or comfort
The 1080 v12 was the only shoe that gave me shooting pains from the ball of my foot into my big toe. I’ll wait on this version until it shows up on eBay, under $50, and a store return. Current price is a no go. Too many better options for less.
I tried on a pair of 1080 v13 yesterday. Love the new look. However, the midsole is indeed way too soft. It was like a dough of flour under my feet. I was able to press the forefoot down left and right with very little effort. A bit scary really.
@dancinglight8545 I don't know. I've never tried it.
Yep, but just a little. Not as soft as the More V4. @dancinglight8545
The Vongo V5 is my favourite. Waiting for V6
I bought these as a daily / recovery shoe which could also handle my long runs. (Basically one shoe to do it all apart from racing). Overall I'm really impressed! I've done strides at 4:00/km and faster and they can definitely handle speed. Admittedly they are slow to accelerate due to the soft foam but they manage to hold pace really well. I think it's down to the low weight - my UK Size 9 weighs only 261g. I can't tolerate more than a 6mm drop so unfortunately I can't run in most shoes on the market. When reviewers talk about running in the Nike Zoom X invincible or Novablast this is probably the closest I'll get to that experience. Couldn't be happier with these and I will probably log a tonne of miles in them if they hold up.
Love the More v4 for recovery and slow, long runs, so the 1080v13 is just a lighter version which works for me - just don't expect it to be the do-all shoe from previous versions of the 1080. Clifton 9 works better as a do-all shoe.🙂
NB for life. Absolutely love these.
I bought v12 for $70 a few weeks ago, put them in the basement and forgot about them. They don't seem at all like the V13.
P.S. I just went out in then for a quick jog with the dog and I didn't hate them at all. They remind me a little bit of my Saucony Ride 13 that I still use to this day.
ride 13 r soft ? i thought the powerrun was a firmer midsole
@@io-rj6sk I ran back home from the garage in the NB just now and disliked them so much, I returned in my Speed 2. So much more speed with the same effort can be had from the Saucony. The Ride 13 was the softest of all of the versions so far.
So I better go out and buy myself a new pair of v12 then. Thx for a honest review.
My Fresh Foam More V4 lasted 6 months. Upper tear close to the front sole. Good luck to the ones who just bought New Balance
I wore one for about 2 mins and it’s such a dead shoe compared to my over 500km Pegasus at the time, it really was horrible.
For me, the nail in the coffin for the 1080 wasn’t this update, it was the transition from V11 to V12. The more solid shape and hard heel cuff just don’t work for me. What would you advise as an alternative for a longtime 1080 lover, besides trying to find V11s and before on sale?! 😢
The Saucony Triumph 21s are worth considering, or even version 20 which is cheap in sales
I found Novablast 3 and Nimbus 26 to be more smushy, bulky and sluggish. While unstable on sharp turns, this shoe makes me want to run straight forward. Forever. Quite the opposite of what many others experience.
Thanks for the review! I was actually contemplating buying this shoe while I was at a New Balance outlet a couple of weeks ago, glad I didn’t. I never ran in New Balance before, usually I run in Saucony, but for some reason this shoe appealed to me just by looking at it, I run in the Saucony Ride 16 at the moment and this would’ve been so much different, kind of in a negative way. I don’t like the feeling of being too sluggish on my runs.
Im recovering from plantar fasciitis and v13 is just what I need rn
What’s the best new balance shoe for walking?
I enjoy a soft shoe but the v13 was just far too much for me. The softest shoe I’ve ever run in, and not for the better.
wat r other good soft shoes?
@@io-rj6sk for a comfy cruiser I’d take the Asics Nimbus 25 easily over the 1080v13. Or for something a bit more versatile the Saucony Triumph 20/21. Or for pure fun the Nike Invincible 2 (not a fan of the 3).
@@flatfootedrunner ive tried all 3 of them but the invincibles. nimbus feels too heavy and thuddy for me. the v13 is not too bad but i dont like the unstableness. gave me ankle niggles lol. and the triumphs r too small for my feet, i get arch pain in them ;/
and the invincibles 2 seem to b out of stock lol
i hope the novablast 4 will b good to me for an easy day shoe. will have to wait and see
@@io-rj6sk I find the rocker on the Nimbus moves things along, and don’t mind the weight since even though the v13 is lighter, it had no versatility for me beyond an easy day shoe. Looking forward to the Novablast 4 too. The Superblast is also an incredible shoe, but not a soft max cushion.
@@flatfootedrunner can u do easy/recovery runs in superblasts?
Sent mine back after 3 runs. As a 172 lb 6ft runner i enjoyed the v10/11.( 12 too heavy) The foam is now way too soft , i was sinking in it , felt calves and hamstrings straining. Maybe a lighter runner may have different experience. Such a shame Ben put me on this shoe years back and i will have to find a new non squishy opinion ( and unfortunately we seem to be entering a fad of high stack , squish fest with many brands)
I'm about the same size as you, 6-2 and 175lbs, I do the majority of my miles in the Saucony Endorphin Pro 2, which can be had for $80ish on Amazon right now. They have enough stack height without being too squishy, and are light as hell so they never tire your legs...I have a VERY flat foot and kinda wide in the middle and have zero issues with the shoe. I do literally all types of runs in them, not a single issue.
Thanks Ryan 👍 i use the saucony speeds in rotation and they are great ( the nylon plate as opposed to carbon) Since my comment some nimbus 25 s arrived which i will replace the 1080s with for easy runs. Still stacked and bit squishy but better than the 1080 👍
Great review 🎉🎉🎉
Theres something weird about New Balance. I bought some everyday/casual trainers by New Balance for the first time. I couldn't believe how narrow they were. When I walked the sides of my feet overhung the sole of the shoe. I thought maybe they would wear-in but they never got any better and got sent back.
I have the Nike Pegasus 38's and still happy with these. They seem to do the job fine for me whether its a long run or speed.
I gave up buying NB shoes due to the constant sizing issues I had with them
One bonus here is I’ve just got my 4th pair of v12s for cheap 😁 think I’ll give these a wide berth.
Looking forward to V13 when they get priced down to clear out for V14..it took a some milage to loosen up V12 but they make a good bopping around shoe..the more4 never loosened up..many of us don't want to feel the ground pounding up our spines and so far only hoka,skechers and NB make some great comfortable shoes..everyone makes a go fast shoe that bottoms out at 10mi..still waiting for a marathon shoe that is fun to run in..
got the same color. the most fun version of 1080 so far. :)
I got a pair of the v11 and for me the heel counter was horrible. I ended up using it as a walking shoe. Felt like my heel was going to fall out.
im over 200 pounds and run a 5 minute mile. yeah these shoes slow me down but the thing other shoes do is not allow me to run for the next few days having extreme pain. with these i can do it almost daily
I dont know who is dropping bad reviews on this shoe but I have 2 pairs of this shoe one for all day wear and one for going out only
This video is surprisingly encouraging for me! I absolutely love these shoes 😅 going to get a pair of “race” shoes so given the apparent added effort needed to run fast I should be flying come race day 😅
I love them. They so soft and that's good for my knees when getting old one day.
It makes me think.. I wonder what the biggest u-turn a shoe company has done?.. we had gopro try and no replaceable lens in their hero8 that only lasted one version.. will this shoe go back to the old style in the next version?
I well remember the difference between Brooks Ghost 4, 5, 6 and 7 versus V8. 4-7 were absolutely fantastic to run in as a neutral shoe whereas 8 was completely unrunnable.
They'd basically turned a neutral shoe into a clown shoe, which is why this very video is giving me the fear.
@@Weegie2 haha. I'm a Brooks ambassador haha.. but luckily it is before I started using the ghosts. Omg. Now I'm searching through my memories old shoe closest to think of similar stories.
As a slow bigger 200lb runner, I couldn't disagree with these reviews more. The 1080v13 is my favorite daily driver. I need that cushy soft landing and seeing as how I'm not a marathon runner, they're perfect for us every day just trying to stay in half decent shape people.
You need to title the video "NB 1080 V13 not for sprinters nor ultra marathon runners" because these are for people trying to improve their moderate marathon abilities but mostly for people wanting a comfortable ride with less joint pain while on a 5K-10K run, even great for half marathons. This is hands down the most comfortable shoe for 23'/24' especially for the folks needing wide-fit and who are just getting started and are experiencing joint and muscle pain from jogging
Believe it bro.. every year NB says it's more responsive. reality check, it's softer and it BOTTOMS OUT
Really like the plush feel of this shoe. It is something that you will instantly feel when you put on the shoe. For someone who are looking for soft and squishy feel, can't go wrong with this one. But 1 problem for me, is the width of the shoes. I wear my TTS US 8 on Rebel v4 and More v4, and they fit totally fine. But it seems I cannot go with TTS on 1080v13. Wide version is not available in my country.
V11 was the best of the recent 1080, v12 heel cup was horrible and rubbed on ankles. Changed to ASICS Gel Nimbus 25 which rock
would you recommend this for long distance? marathons specifically? if not what would you recommend around this price
Appreciate the review sir, v helpful as always! Sounds like it’s a bit like the Invincible v1/2, would you agree? I like the squish so was wondering whether this could be a good option purely for easy/recovery runs?
I good option for easy and recovery runs for sure. It's a lot narrower and I'd say even slightly softer than the invincible 1/2. Happy running!
@@BenParkes nice one sir, appreciate it! Perhaps something to pick up a little down the line when it’s discounted, don’t fancy it at that retail price! If only you were a size smaller I could’ve bought yours on eBay!🤣
The change in the shoe is interesting. I’m suffering from metatarsal issues and I’ve recently been diagnosed with a Morton’s Neuroma. Although this shoe is too narrow for me it could be useful for someone like me that needs a very cushioned ride. Not fast but will protect your feet. I bought the 1080 V12 but I found them painful to run in. After a while my calves were just permanently sore. The foam on the v13’s looks a little like the Elite RC 2’s. The main difference of course is those had a carbon plate to give you the all important bounce back on toe off. I like elite 2’s. Done most of my half marathons in them…however a little like you mentioned in your review about the 1080’s you do feel like you have to work a little harder in them being the foam is so soft.
The people hating on this show are the typical terminally online running commenters. This shoe is incredible.
This is one of the best cushion shoes in my opinion, i love this shoe… I Enjoyed ran with it
NB TRAINER REVIEW needed!
Bad online reviews? Where did u see em...by the way, the shoe is amazing, absolutely amazing
With 1080v13 on the market I would have to wonder what does the future hold for the More series.
I had the more v3 and have more trail v3 and the 1080v13 now.
I don't think the road version is needed now tbh and given the 1080v13 is lighter just rules out the more v4 for me. Also more v4 isn't good looking for casual whereas the 1080v13 is.
Best shoe that I tried for everyday walking.
I'm definitely getting some off these ben really good for long distance running I've trained in few pairs new balance 1080 foam's I'm using my 1080 v11 at min they have been spot on it be my 130th official marathon next week my 41st for this year really pleased very busy year next year for my running 💪🏃🏼🏃🏼😁👍
That's the shoe of the year for me.
I got fitted in these by a specialist store recently. I got to try on multiple different brands and go for a short run in each. In the end, these were the ones I felt were the best - for me. I was advised that I should also get another pair for speed sessions, so definitely not a do-it-all shoe, but they've felt great for me so far on flat gravel tracks, which I mentioned I'd be running on when I was being fitted for them. I think if you have the opportunity to try them on and they feel right for you, they can be a good shoe.
All these "geniuses" complaining that it doesn't come in "extra wide" 4E when it clearly does. Not to mention the regular wide 2E is already wider than most brands 4E. Shows how valid these so called reviews are. the real issue with the shoe isn't even stability, it's the insane midsole compression in the heel combined with a lower drop that causes these shoes to feel like they're going into negative drop when you're just standing around. This makes it feel like the shoe is going to hyperextend your knee. Other than that, they are really nice.
I feel companies have moved away from do it all shows as a way to make runners build a “collection” and easy day shoe, a tempo shoe and a race shoe. When I started running marathons the shoe to have was the first Pegasus Turbo, absolutely amazing shoe, I trained and raced Berlin in them. The current Peg Turbo is nothing anywhere near version 1 and 2.
I think if you moaned to NB about not being able to do speed work in v13 I think there answer would be but the Rebel V3 it’s great for speed work
This shoe is the same as the Ultraboost line: heavier people love them. You won’t understand how good it feels to be able to run everyday and not feel any pain whatsoever 🤣 I’m a 6’3-6’4 190lbs Basketball player and my oh my I love my pair of 1080s.
all the videos I have seen have been good BUT THIS ONE!!!!!!!
This shoes are comfy & made for heal strikers and for heavier people like me 211 pounds. Much firmer than fuelcell with no plate that is.
Found v12 for $37. Hated v10, and like the More v3. Thoughts?
Hated the version 12, felt dead underfoot, just lost confidence in NB lately. Your blue choice is ok, for me a little boring but then I really like crazy loud designs in my shoes 💖
Maybe u could do a short black Friday video. Best carbon plated shoes in the sale that are actually OK to run in