Hey everyone, just a quick update. Thanks for everyone's thoughts on this video - it's definitely a frustrating GPU market all round :-( I ended up seeing the prices of the AIB RTX 5080s and giving up... but then a Founder's Edition model came in stock, which I bought. So it's still expensive for a 16GB VRAM card, but at least it's 30% cheaper than the AIB GPUs. See more here: ruclips.net/user/postUgkx-945nu5l8EDMHS8F4zqWu2t0mdQCETUl
16GB of vram on 1000€ gpu in 2025? It may have strong raster performance but when someone really wants to play full RT + PT (for example CP77).. 16GB is just not enough. RX6800 had 16GB 4 years ago for 579 msrp. This is just ngreedia.. they are selling it because they know sheeps will buy it again.
Pretty sure 16gb is more than enough for path traced cyberpunk. If I remember correctly it's about 13gb usage with 15 gb allocated when playing at 4k dlss quality with RT overdrive and RR. At native 4k I suppose maybe 16gb could potentially be a problem but there are no 16gb cards that could even produce playable framerates at 4k native with rt overdrive.
For me 16 gigs will be fine. I'm planning to upgrade from a 3080 to a 5080 for the main purpose of faster render times in blender since the jump from 30 to 40 series was really good for blender render times. I held off on getting a 4080 because I was gaming more than animating in blender but now it's the opposite. Also when I game, I'm a competitive gamer at heart so I drop all settings to low and I rarely play the newest titles
That makes sense, and I agree that for 99% of games (or purposes like Blender), the 5080 will be a solid card. It'll also be a massive upgrade for me, coming from an RX 6700XT. 🤔
I plan to get a used RTX 4070 Super until a 5080ti with 24gb or more of vram comes out. Running a 1440p monitor my current 16gb vram (laptop) GPU rarely goes above 11-12gb's of used VRAM whilst gaming. I do plan to switch to a 4K display and with that I can see myself needing more than the 16gb's of vram I currently have.
Regardless of which game settings you'd like to play at, your budget is the deciding factor. My advice is to buy the best GPU you can afford within your budget. I'll wait for reviews of the 5080/5070 before I decide to upgrade.
Thanks @bobgeisel13, that's wise. I'll see what the reviews of the 5080 say tomorrow, and then set a budget and stick to it. A £1k 5080 is quite different from a £1.3k 5080 (for example), especially if the 5080's performance doesn't deliver too much of a generational uplift. We'll see. :)
Currently I am using a GTX 1060 6GB and I wanted to buy a 4070 Ti Super last year but I thought I'd just wait for the new 5000 series to drop and see whats better. I game in 1440p and I am looking for a 16GB card but I am kinda scared for the prices of the new 5070 Ti in my country because the 4070 Ti Super went up in price here from 800€ to 1000€ which feels like a rip off. So yeah I am not really optimistic at the moment...
if you can stomach fsr 3.1 then amd might be better. nvidia is so overpriced that sometimes you can buy a higher tier amd card and just power through native resolution.
It's hard to know all round. The 5070 Ti sounds promising, but the 5090 and 5080 launch was so 'bumpy' that I'm not convinced the 5070 Ti will have great stock levels. Hopefully it does though.
I run a 3050 lp 6gb , I get so much trash for it but it can literally run everything I throw at it at 1080p max settings. I don’t understand why it’s a “bad” card. And before someone jumps in a calls me retarted I had to go with a card that didn’t have a power connector and that was my best option at the time.
You're definitely not 'bad' for owning a 3050, I remember seeing the reviews when it released and it's a good overall card. Nothing wrong with 1080p gaming either - it's much cheaper too LOL!
Hey everyone, it's hard to know what card to get, I'd appreciate any thoughts people have :) I had a heavy cold when shooting this video, but hopefully I didn't sound too bad/out of it lol. Thanks for watching.
I think I read somewhere that in gamescom they might do rtx 5080 super with 24gb vram and 16k cuda cores. So I think I will be waiting but I do understand your point that at that price you should be able to play games on highest settings. If the 5080 is top-end for gamers that is especially true.
@@Psyzenn that's interesting, and it wouldn't surprise me if they do release that. I might see what the AIB prices are (still not available in the UK) and go from there.
@ Also watched somewhere that MSI Suprim outperforms the Asus Astral cooling and performance even tho they priced at different ranges from leaks. Some also say that OC 5080 is like 5-10% behind 4090 in performance.
I will be upgrading from a 1060 to a 5080. It will be at least a 5x improvement. Every thing else on my laptop is that outdated too. So I’m not comparing my upgrade to last generation. This will be a huge upgrade for me.
I will wait for the 60 Series, still haven't exhausted my 3090ti 24 GB on the games I play. GPU are becoming like phones, where they just do a slight tweak and want another $2k for a GPU. In fact, I think 4090 is the last real GPU we say was worth buying,.all this AI stuff just seem 🤔 AI. .lol😂
Thanks for watching, and yep, it is a bit too much. I'm hoping for some MSRP AIB graphics cards, but we'll see. The UK isn't always the cheapest unfortunately.
Across the pond Amazon has this: Sapphire 11323-02-20G Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT for $650. 20GB GDDR6. I am considering buying this and replacing my 3070ti.
@@TechOverwrite On a personal note: I still like my EVGA card, nostalgia. I always bought EVGA GPU's and miss them greatly as they closed up shop. I probably will keep this card as a display just for what was and is no more.
That's my concern, although it does look like a 5080 would be okay on 1440p wide-screen for sure. Plus there's always the option of DLSS for internal 1080p rendering, for better performance efficiency again 🤔
Depends if you care about raytracing. If you dont than the 7900xt or if you can 7900xtx is amazing. I had a 7900xtx as well as a 4080s. If the game has no raytracing the 7900xtx was faster. Also having so much more Vram let me max the textures or download texture packs and mods and never worry about it ever. I really hope AMD Next generation after whats coming out lets them go back to fight for top end. Im not asking Nvidia lvl RT. But be within say 10 to 15% RT performance with the same or better raster as well as a bunch more Vram and im sold.
I bought a metaquest 3 and in DCS world I see vram come close to 16GB in HWinfo; I think my background tasks might be eating more vram then they should, but it's just web browser and discord, with something priced as high as 5080 I would expect more than 16GB; also I have 7800xt, so if I had more vram maybe it would use more. Does anyone know if it's active use or allocation? The number changes a lot so I suspect it's not allocating what it doesn't need
That's interesting, VR does tend to use quite a lot to be honest. Although unless you're seeing really bad performance, it's probably just allocating a large amount and then not quite using it all (unlike Indiana Jones which goes down to like 5fps the moment the vram is used up)
@@TechOverwrite only stutters on occaision; more testing needed to see if vram is an issue. Also, since flight sims aren't input latency sensitive so I run msaa x4 and maxed out textures with radeon chill set to 36 fps (both sliders) and ssw (frame generation the headset itself processes) bumps it to the refresh rate of 72; without ssw I would probably turn it down but the 5080 is really expensive, having "enough" vram at that price doesn't work for me, so I personally wouldn't recommend for vr, especially my metaquest 3 that renders more pixels than 4k. I like dlss, but nvidia just doesn't offer a card for a reasonable price in my area, I was eyeballing a 4070ti super, but it's 25% more money than a 7900xt, and think that's too much for less vram and dlss alone.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'm on a couple of Discords of other creators (such as the TechLabUK one, and Scan's own one) but maybe a Tech Overwrite Discord could work too. Will give that a think - thank you :)
I get it. I too am going back and forth. I want the 5090 but that price is just a lot. Yes i can buy it... but will I get the value out of it? I really need to see those 5080 reviews. I also wish they bumped the 5080 up to 24gb vram... disappointed they did not.
24GB VRAM would be awesome, although I suspect that's what NVIDIA are planning for a 5080 Ti or 5080 Super (probably with a 50% increased price lol). The 5090 is a beast, although I fear it's a bit too power hungry for me... plus I won't be able to fully use its full potential either.
What should i do? get the 5090 lower the power to 70% but then i still need to buy air-conditioning for my apartment. no thank you, i will just eat the sour apple of 16gb vram.
Hmm, I think 16 is fine. I like that game devs are pushing the boundaries. when Crysis came out there weren't any cards that could reasonably play it at Extreme settings. The idea that a game comes out and requires you to have the absolute best card available to play at the absolute highest settings is reasonable, so long as the slightly lower settings aren't bad. And imo in Indiana Jones even the lower settings look incredibly good.
i have a rtx 4070 ti super running indy at 3440x1440p with all option on full rt ,except frame gen and the lowest I get is 60 fps but for the most part am getting 72fps and am saving my pennes and am gonna get a 5090
You can still play latest games with 16 gb vram its still mostly enough just turn down the textures settings a little in Indiana Jones there are very few games which are exceptions where 16 gb vram will be exceeded stll not a cause for concern yet.
Good point thanks, I guess I'm mainly debating whether buying a 5080 for gaming is worth it since it'll likely be relatively expensive (when looking at the board partners) - especially for 16gb. Fair point that 16gb is plenty for 99% of games/settings though :)
New Space Marine 2 uses over 16gb. At 4k maxed settings with the texture pack my 4080s has random stutter and texture pop in. So it is hitting over 16gb. I wanted a 5080 when io assumed it would have came with more Vram. But ofc Nvidia suck and we get 16. Ill now wait for a refresh of 5080super or 5080ti to get im hoping 24gb. As well as say an extra 15% performance. Considering the 5090 has almost 2x the cores of the 5080. Should be easy to get a big core bump for performance as well as a vram boost. But be ready to pay 250 more i bet.
I play most games at 4k with my 6800xt max settings and it uses 15gb of 16 GB of vram and my ram is using 20 out of 32 gigs it's crazy how games use so much I'll be getting a 5080 I'm in uk as well going to be expensive I have 1200 ready for it but I will be a massive upgrade for me.
Interesting, glad to see another Brit who is equally annoyed at the 1200+ rumoured pricing lol 🙈 Yes vram is crazy in general, although it does sound like Nvidia cards can still perform better even with less vram - especially with RT on. We'll see. Good luck tomorrow 🤞
I play at 3440x1440, 16GB VRAM should be enough for a while at least which was the main reason in getting the 4070Ti Super over a normal 4070 Super for that extra 4GB frame buffer.
NVIDIA fanboys: "It's plenty of VRAM" *"But, Indiana Jones runs out VRAM without even getting max settings with Path Tracing"* NVIDIA fanboy: *"you're using it wrong"*
Heh yeah that sums things up. It's frustrating - the third most powerful GPU (assuming the 5080 > 7900XTX) should be able to play Indiana Jones at all settings IMO.
In their eyes, they gave you enough Vram in the 5080 to last 2+ years or the launch of the 6000s....just don't add any mods. Now, if you like adding a load of 4k mods, there is always the 5090...right. This is why I am keeping my 4090 and waiting for the 6000s. DLSS 4 really sank the 5000s because games that you ran 4k quality with DLSS 3, you can now run at balanced, and they even look better. Better looks and FPS, which adds more to the reason for keeping your 4090 and using your money on other parts, or start saving for that $5000 RTX 6090 lol
That's true, that's almost certainly their choice of only giving 16gb vram. I'm surprised they rolled out DLSS 4 to earlier cards - you'd think NVIDIA would have tried to limit it (although maybe they knew it would be easy to crack).
It's insane most ppl has 16GB system wide. But this crap of DLSS now make the system requirements insane to who want a native resolution and not a dynamic
I’m really not happy with 16 gigs. Especially considering that RT only games like Indiana Jones and Doom: The Dark Ages are going to become the norm. Not to mention future console generations and their higher system VRAM are close on the horizon.
when you pay 1000+ dollars for something, you should not worry about vram. 5080 should have at least 18-20 gb but in a perfect world 24 gb. I bought one anyway but thats bcs i have 1070 right now with 8Gb and i cant afford 5090.
Yes I agree, it's frustrating all round. I'm 'lucky' that I ended up getting a 5080 at MSRP, but it's still expensive for 16GB VRAM. Still, it is proving to be an epic upgrade from my RX 6700XT. I hope yours work out well for you too 🙂
I wanna buy it for 1440p ultrawide high refresh gaming, 16 gig should be enough. Even 4k with DLSS performance mode, which is great now, will work fine.
That makes sense, I am tempted to get a 1440p high refresh monitor (my main monitor is a 60Hz 4K screen for video editing, but I could use a 1440p one for proper gaming)
preorderd a 5090 on release. i knew this was going to happen.. 16gb is not enough. people going out for a 5080 expecting to game at 4k with raytracing and all settings maxed are going to be very disapointed.. right now a 4090 or a 5090 are the only cards that can really play 4k. 5090 being the better option.
That's a fair decision - the 5090 is a brilliant card, and it'll last for a very long time. The 5080 is frustrating all around really, especially when you look at the board partner prices - paying more than 50% above MSRP for that seems crazy to me, to be honest.
@@TechOverwrite my only worry with the 5090 is if my power supply will be safe for it. im getting mixed messeges and not a solid answer. its 3.0 atx not 3.1 so the cable is the old one not the new ones. i dunno if thats safe or not. id assume the power supply is good but i really dunno. its an asus strix auros 3.0 gold 1200watt
I'm no techie, so this is an uneducated statement, but where is AMD (or any other nvidia competitors) and why aren't they looking at all the complaints about the 5080 etc and saying, lets make a better card at a cheaper price and it will sell truckloads, let's look at all the complaints people have about the 5080 and build a card that no one can complain about. Talk with gamers, videos editors etc and see what they're looking for and build prototypes and then if there's glitches, fix them , do more R&D and build a new prototype, until everyone is happy and the launch price point will not be greedy but acceptable for the power/performance the card has. Right now its like Nvidia can do what they want and people will still buy it.
Fair comment and it's a frustrating GPU market all round. AMD did used to have some good high end competition, but in recent years they seem to have moved more towards the mid range of cards. The upcoming 9070XT is rumoured to be good, but AMD ended up delaying it when they seen NVIDIA release the 50 series - which is concerning. Is it simply too hard nowadays to produce a high end GPU (for example)? I think the reality is that we're approaching a situation where making the GPU hardware better each year is almost impossible, so things are shifting to the software side (frame gen, ray tracing etc). And for a variety of reasons, NVIDIA are way ahead on the software side. I definitely hope that AMD and Intel's new cards start to beat out NVIDIA at the low and mid ranges, and then they can work up from there. We need more competition for sure.
Another reason to wait for the 5080 super with 24 GB of VRAM. I hope idiots will rush in to buy current 5080s then the better ones will be available for the rest of us :)
It does look very good, I agree. I just wish they released the 5070 Ti today too, but I think NVIDIA know it's a good deal so they want to hype it up a lot next month.
Great video! Me personally & probably I'm gonna buy sooner the 5070Ti since I've been waiting this upgrade from 20 series I already Have a GTx 1060 & Rtx 2060 35% difference which's great back then I m still playing game on 1440p & 1080p with 6gb Vram so 5070Ti would be 1000% difference & great upgrade I'd luv to have an Rtx 5090 but way to expensive 3k for 30% performance compared to 5070ti however 16gb Vram is way too little, should be at least 20gb..
After Nvidia benchmarks and AMD leaks I have ordered RX 7900 XTX. 24GB FTW. As you show at 1:29 Ultra Settings are bullshit, so I don't care a lot about the benchmarks.
Why would any sane gamer pay £1200 for a card that releases tomorrow, when it can't run already released titles at the resolution they want without dialling down settings? Nvidia will only listen if people don't pander to their nonsense. Leave the cards on the shelves.
Well if you wanna game at 4K Ultra with all the whistles and bells running and not compromise on the settings , you're going to have to suck down reality that 16G aint gonna cut the mustard going forward. You know it's not a "cheap" resolution to play at . If you want to play 4K Ultra your going to have to dig deep and pay for the cards that will allow you to do that. I have a 16Gig card but game at 1440p ultra and I am willing to turn down the settings when the need arises but as I have never exceeded using 8 to 10 Gigs of of Vram in any game I have played I think I will be ok for a good while longer.
Great points, that's a reasonable stance. To be honest while I do have a 4k monitor for video editing, I am happy to render at 1440p. I've half considered getting a higher Hz 1440p monitor for gaming actually (since my 4k monitor is only 60hz).
In my opinion more VRAM better with more horsepower. 5080 with 16 gigs of VRAM I think sweetspot for me though. Well I'm just gaming with 4070 (primary PC) and my old CRT why bother about that. But, my problems occur when I want to render big 3D scene, bake some 8K textures in 3D software or generate some image with AI. In a productive way I really need bigger VRAM. Otherwise, in gaming I don't really need it. Meanwhile my secondary PC maybe needs upgrade too from RX Vega 64 to some RDNA 2 cards like the 6700 XT. I just wanna see from other perspective "can I still productive use Radeon GPU" things like that. My conclusion is just buy it, and enjoy!
Great comment, thanks glad that the 5080 will work fine for you (or at least, for your gaming). "My conclusion is just buy it, and enjoy!" - very true, good point :)
I agree with you, 1200+ bucks for a 16GB card is absurd in 2025. It would've probably been better to stick to GDDR6X and give it 24GB, though I know nothing about graphic cards manufacturing, so there's a chance that wouldn't be possible for some reason unbeknownst to me. Though in fairness, not even a 4090 or 5090 will run those games properly with path tracing, native 4k. You're expected to use DLSS with that kind of settings, which is absolutely fine to me. Now the question is, does it still crash if you have DLSS enabled? If so, then that's a big issue... But even if it doesn't, most people spending that kind of money on a GPU expect it to last at least 2 generations, so 16GB is already a struggle in 2025, can't imagine it will be doing very well in ~2029... Hope you're feeling better!
Thanks, I'm feeling a bit better but still getting a bit hammered by it 🙈 Thanks, that all makes sense - and fair point that the 4090/5090 also struggles there. You're right that it's better with DLSS/1440p, IIRC. I am still leaning towards the 5080 to be honest (assuming it's a touch lower than 1200gbp, will see tomorrow). It sounds like it brings a decent improvement in video encoding/decoding which could be useful to me. Good luck on the 5090 hunting tomorrow 🤞
@@TechOverwrite Yeah I always find it hard to purchase something from past generations, even if the performance is nearly the same, you're still paying ~1000gbp for a 2 year old product... I would go for a 4080 Super if it was extremely discounted, but otherwise I'd go with the 5080 (or a used 4090, but personally I wouldn't get one unless it was off of someone I knew). Thanks, I just looked it up and so far one store has 4 of them with the price up. 3 of which are in 3000€ (2500gbp) and a single one at 2400€ (2000gbp), no doubt that one will sell out within seconds, if it even gets any stock to begin with... It's definitely gonna be a challenge. And if you're curious, the cheapest 5080s in the store are 1350€ (1130gbp), so there might be some hope for you, since your VAT is 20% and ours is 23%...
Yes I get that, I tend to prefer skipping 1-2 generations but then doing a 'big' upgrade and going latest gen for similar reasons to you. Did you have any luck getting one yesterday? Thanks for that. AIB cards were a bit of a nightmare in the UK - there were 1-2 5080s for £1100 but they seemed to be out of stock immediately. I was then half looking at paying £1200-1300 for a white OC 5080 out of desperation lol, but even then all the retailer's websites kept crashing over and over (and I wasn't overly willing to pay that much on a 5080). But then the 'add to basket' link appeared on the NVIDIA website, and I ordered an 5080 FE. It hasn't shipped yet so I'm not getting too excited yet, but fingers crossed.
@@TechOverwrite So you ended up paying "just" £1000 for the 5080? Assuming it ships... Nice! I wouldn't get a 5090 FE, but the cooler seems to work a lot better for the lower wattage of the 5080! I wasn't so lucky. I was refreshing a bunch of different websites at the time of launch, but only one of them had the 5090 in stock to begin with (it wasn't even a Portuguese store, it was Spanish. I'm not sure we had any stock at all in Portugal), and I wasn't about to pay 3050€ for an MSI Gaming Trio. Going from a 4090 to a 5090 is pretty stupid at any price point, so I promised myself I wouldn't pay a cent over 3000€ (which is already absurd), and even at that price I wouldn't do that unless it was a top tier model... It was a total paper launch, and apparently production won't be getting better anytime soon because of the Chinese New Year, so we'll see if I manage to snag one within the next 2 or 3 months for a "reasonable" price.
@@TMLFerreira > So you ended up paying "just" £1000 for the 5080? Assuming it ships... Nice! Yep, £979 I think - which I'm naturally happy with (especially because you can't buy a 4080 or 4080 Super anymore in the UK). > I wouldn't get a 5090 FE, but the cooler seems to work a lot better for the lower wattage of the 5080! Yes I get this - the temperature stats for closed-base 5090 FE builds don't look fun! Agreed about the 5080 though. Hopefully I can give it a good test soon - again assuming it ships LOL. > I wasn't so lucky. I was refreshing a bunch of different websites at the time of launch, but only one of them had the 5090 in stock to begin with (it wasn't even a Portuguese store, it was Spanish. I'm not sure we had any stock at all in Portugal), and I wasn't about to pay 3050€ for an MSI Gaming Trio. Going from a 4090 to a 5090 is pretty stupid at any price point, so I promised myself I wouldn't pay a cent over 3000€ (which is already absurd), and even at that price I wouldn't do that unless it was a top tier model... It was a total paper launch, and apparently production won't be getting better anytime soon because of the Chinese New Year, so we'll see if I manage to snag one within the next 2 or 3 months for a "reasonable" price. Aww sorry to hear that, that's really frustrating. 5090 stock in particular didn't seem good but that's definitely crazy about being over 3000 Euros. The AIB prices haven't been fun at all. Yes fingers crossed the situation will improve in a few months.
I only go for cards that have 20+GB of VRAM. I don't know why Nvidia is so stingy. Simply releasing a 5080 - 16GB model and a 5080 24 GB model would be enough to see what ppl prefer same goes for their flagship 5090 32GB and 64GB. There are ppl that would pay 4K for that high end card, while more reasonable ppl could choose what they really need. I bet there ar a lot of hobbyists that want to run LLMs local or have other interesting ideas on how to put high VRAM cards to use beside gaming.
Nice video, but this phrase like "Some of the games like Indina (eats more than 16 gigs)", and its literally the only one game that is screwed with 16gb vram. And im more than sure, that it was created specially for 4090 and 5090, cause just turn off Supreme texture pull to ultra or high, and u will get the same image, same quality, everything the same. Mb it's for the future UE updates with nvidia's AI textures. This take could be good if we had every third AAA game with this kind of video memory allocation, but we don't have that, so it's really pointless for now. But yeah, for the future we have a new name for the green team with their vram politic - Greedvidia P.S. Going to buy 5070 ti 🤟 (sold my 4070 super in November, and waiting for the release on my old 1060)
Thanks for watching and commenting, and that's a good point that it's bad wording on my part. Yes it's frustrating all round from Nvidia. Good luck with the 5070 Ti, that looks like it'll be an awesome card.
its easy don't buy a gpu, u want vram get a 7900xt or xtx u want a car go buy one not a nvidea card. they will pump and dump you every chance they get to force u onto there latest platform. (EG. frame gen and not giving support to idk older gen cards that with free software you can do it easily)
That's fair, thanks for your thoughts. That does pretty much sum it up. NVIDIA aren't known for giving excess to their customers lol (although the DLSS4 upgrade is looking like a nice bonus to 30/40 series owners). I'll see what the reviews say tonight.
That's true, it does feel like it's reaching a bit of a 'battle point' where GPU makers can't make increasingly powerful cards (each year), and us consumers can't afford increasingly expensive cards lol.
What the poit to get into 4K gaming? Looking at Steam's info about users that have 4K monitors it's the LOWEST amount of all, for comparison 1080p it's around 55% and 20% for 2K. And 4!!!! % of 4K users. It seems that Nvidia saw the reviews about 4K this and that and fall for it, but in reality is right opposite. Besides, the cost of good 4K gaming monitor's is stil very high. If we look at performance of same graphic card's in 4K and 2K, it shows the BIG difference, not sure if you planing or now having 4K monitor, but take this to note. And, last but not least, running games at ULTRA settings in 2K is not using that many VRAM, soo... Im uprading my 3060 ti (with only 8Gb) to 5070 Ti, just because it better than mine and 4070 super(and seem's to be on one level with 4080 super), and hoping that you change youre mind about actual problem with VRAM amount.
Good point, thanks for watching and commenting. I agree - I think that 2K is the sweet spot right now. I only have a 4K monitor for video editing, but I'm debating buying a 1440p 240hz monitor for gaming. Not sure yet.
I'll be going for the 5080 on launch, fingers have done their exercises ready to snag a fe model. idk if they're gonna redirect to scan this time but I'm signed in and got details saved just in case. good luck everyone
Yep, good luck :) It sounds like it will either be a redirect to Scan, or they'll almost have an within the nvidia site (but same deal - being logged into the Scan account will be key)
@TechOverwrite man it was an absolute disaster in the uk I was refreshing like crazy tried different browsers closed tabs opened them up again and I was never able to buy them. it just went straight from coming soon to oos. absolutely insane, hopefully they have a decent restock next month
Yep, I was trying to buy an AIB 5080 and the add to basket link never appeared - and I had lots of crashes too. I _might_ have got lucky with a FE model, but it hasn't been shipped yet so I'm not getting my hopes up yet lol.
@@TechOverwrite damn at least your button let you buy it, idk if it's a WiFi thing but I just think they didn't have enough stock. judging by how bad it was in America we probably got barely a handful of supply
One insane studio pushing some major bs likely bankrolled by Nvidia is not an indicator of anything... Hot take: 8gb is still just fine... Not great but fine... 16gb is perfect.
16gb vram is not enough for 4k, when you enable RT/PT it is even then a clown show, what do people think of 4k ? it is easy to run ? Even the 4090 can not do alot of gamesi n 4k and 60fps at max settings. the 4080 super / 5080 are 1440p cards as the rx7900xtx is, nothing more then that.
This take is ridiculous. There is no game the 4090 can’t run at 4K. Given that all modern releases utilize TAA by default, upscaling poses no detriment to image quality. On the contrary, it is often better than native if native uses TAA. The 4080 and 5080 both have more the horsepower to run at 4K with all bells and whistles. The only thing holding them back is the VRAM.
Fair points both - and actually, the fact that DLSS can now look better than native is interesting. I'm not expecting to game at 4K native, so that is a 'plus point' (sort of) for the 5080.
Hey everyone, just a quick update. Thanks for everyone's thoughts on this video - it's definitely a frustrating GPU market all round :-( I ended up seeing the prices of the AIB RTX 5080s and giving up... but then a Founder's Edition model came in stock, which I bought. So it's still expensive for a 16GB VRAM card, but at least it's 30% cheaper than the AIB GPUs. See more here: ruclips.net/user/postUgkx-945nu5l8EDMHS8F4zqWu2t0mdQCETUl
16GB of vram on 1000€ gpu in 2025? It may have strong raster performance but when someone really wants to play full RT + PT (for example CP77).. 16GB is just not enough. RX6800 had 16GB 4 years ago for 579 msrp. This is just ngreedia.. they are selling it because they know sheeps will buy it again.
That's fair, thanks for watching and commenting. It's frustrating from Ngreedia lol.
Pretty sure 16gb is more than enough for path traced cyberpunk. If I remember correctly it's about 13gb usage with 15 gb allocated when playing at 4k dlss quality with RT overdrive and RR. At native 4k I suppose maybe 16gb could potentially be a problem but there are no 16gb cards that could even produce playable framerates at 4k native with rt overdrive.
For me 16 gigs will be fine. I'm planning to upgrade from a 3080 to a 5080 for the main purpose of faster render times in blender since the jump from 30 to 40 series was really good for blender render times. I held off on getting a 4080 because I was gaming more than animating in blender but now it's the opposite. Also when I game, I'm a competitive gamer at heart so I drop all settings to low and I rarely play the newest titles
That makes sense, and I agree that for 99% of games (or purposes like Blender), the 5080 will be a solid card. It'll also be a massive upgrade for me, coming from an RX 6700XT. 🤔
@@TechOverwrite That's going to be a Solid upgrade I hope we get lucky on launch. I'm gonna test my luck at Micro Center
Thanks, yes it will be, fingers crossed for tomorrow :) Good luck with Micro Center, sounds like they have a fair amount of stock.
I play at 4k and have noticed this issue. High end cards need 20+ VRAM
Thanks, it does seem that way. 4K especially native is a big vram hog.
I plan to get a used RTX 4070 Super until a 5080ti with 24gb or more of vram comes out. Running a 1440p monitor my current 16gb vram (laptop) GPU rarely goes above 11-12gb's of used VRAM whilst gaming. I do plan to switch to a 4K display and with that I can see myself needing more than the 16gb's of vram I currently have.
Ah, very similar thought process to me then - thanks for the views. That definitely makes sense :)
Regardless of which game settings you'd like to play at, your budget is the deciding factor. My advice is to buy the best GPU you can afford within your budget.
I'll wait for reviews of the 5080/5070 before I decide to upgrade.
Thanks @bobgeisel13, that's wise. I'll see what the reviews of the 5080 say tomorrow, and then set a budget and stick to it. A £1k 5080 is quite different from a £1.3k 5080 (for example), especially if the 5080's performance doesn't deliver too much of a generational uplift. We'll see. :)
Currently I am using a GTX 1060 6GB and I wanted to buy a 4070 Ti Super last year but I thought I'd just wait for the new 5000 series to drop and see whats better.
I game in 1440p and I am looking for a 16GB card but I am kinda scared for the prices of the new 5070 Ti in my country because the 4070 Ti Super went up in price here from 800€ to 1000€ which feels like a rip off.
So yeah I am not really optimistic at the moment...
if you can stomach fsr 3.1 then amd might be better. nvidia is so overpriced that sometimes you can buy a higher tier amd card and just power through native resolution.
It's hard to know all round. The 5070 Ti sounds promising, but the 5090 and 5080 launch was so 'bumpy' that I'm not convinced the 5070 Ti will have great stock levels. Hopefully it does though.
I run a 3050 lp 6gb
, I get so much trash for it but it can literally run everything I throw at it at 1080p max settings. I don’t understand why it’s a “bad” card. And before someone jumps in a calls me retarted I had to go with a card that didn’t have a power connector and that was my best option at the time.
If it works for you that's all that matters regardless of what anyone thinks
You're definitely not 'bad' for owning a 3050, I remember seeing the reviews when it released and it's a good overall card. Nothing wrong with 1080p gaming either - it's much cheaper too LOL!
Hey everyone, it's hard to know what card to get, I'd appreciate any thoughts people have :) I had a heavy cold when shooting this video, but hopefully I didn't sound too bad/out of it lol. Thanks for watching.
I think I read somewhere that in gamescom they might do rtx 5080 super with 24gb vram and 16k cuda cores. So I think I will be waiting but I do understand your point that at that price you should be able to play games on highest settings. If the 5080 is top-end for gamers that is especially true.
@@Psyzenn that's interesting, and it wouldn't surprise me if they do release that. I might see what the AIB prices are (still not available in the UK) and go from there.
@ Also watched somewhere that MSI Suprim outperforms the Asus Astral cooling and performance even tho they priced at different ranges from leaks. Some also say that OC 5080 is like 5-10% behind 4090 in performance.
I will be upgrading from a 1060 to a 5080. It will be at least a 5x improvement. Every thing else on my laptop is that outdated too. So I’m not comparing my upgrade to last generation. This will be a huge upgrade for me.
I will wait for the 60 Series, still haven't exhausted my 3090ti 24 GB on the games I play. GPU are becoming like phones, where they just do a slight tweak and want another $2k for a GPU. In fact, I think 4090 is the last real GPU we say was worth buying,.all this AI stuff just seem 🤔 AI. .lol😂
That makes sense, and the 3090Ti is a solid card. Definitely seems sensible to stick with that for now.
I get you. 1200pounds is too expensive for only 16GB.
(still I wish I had 16GB of VRam instead of just 8)
Thanks for watching, and yep, it is a bit too much. I'm hoping for some MSRP AIB graphics cards, but we'll see. The UK isn't always the cheapest unfortunately.
Across the pond Amazon has this: Sapphire 11323-02-20G Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT for $650. 20GB GDDR6. I am considering buying this and replacing my 3070ti.
That's a good deal - I think the 7900XT has touched a bit below £600 a few times recently, so that's a solid option for sure. 🤔
@@TechOverwrite On a personal note: I still like my EVGA card, nostalgia. I always bought EVGA GPU's and miss them greatly as they closed up shop. I probably will keep this card as a display just for what was and is no more.
Ah that's true, EVGA were great. I appreciated their decision to stop being a board partner, even if it was a net negative for all of us lol.
$650? it’s $1400AUD mate what the fuck r u on about
If I am gaming on max setting with 3440 x 1440 monitor, would 16GB enough? If not, I might just get a 7900 XT
That's my concern, although it does look like a 5080 would be okay on 1440p wide-screen for sure. Plus there's always the option of DLSS for internal 1080p rendering, for better performance efficiency again 🤔
@@TechOverwrite Seems like I might have to still wait for AMD's new ones in March after all
Depends if you care about raytracing. If you dont than the 7900xt or if you can 7900xtx is amazing. I had a 7900xtx as well as a 4080s. If the game has no raytracing the 7900xtx was faster. Also having so much more Vram let me max the textures or download texture packs and mods and never worry about it ever. I really hope AMD Next generation after whats coming out lets them go back to fight for top end. Im not asking Nvidia lvl RT. But be within say 10 to 15% RT performance with the same or better raster as well as a bunch more Vram and im sold.
I bought a metaquest 3 and in DCS world I see vram come close to 16GB in HWinfo; I think my background tasks might be eating more vram then they should, but it's just web browser and discord, with something priced as high as 5080 I would expect more than 16GB; also I have 7800xt, so if I had more vram maybe it would use more. Does anyone know if it's active use or allocation? The number changes a lot so I suspect it's not allocating what it doesn't need
That's interesting, VR does tend to use quite a lot to be honest. Although unless you're seeing really bad performance, it's probably just allocating a large amount and then not quite using it all (unlike Indiana Jones which goes down to like 5fps the moment the vram is used up)
@@TechOverwrite only stutters on occaision; more testing needed to see if vram is an issue. Also, since flight sims aren't input latency sensitive so I run msaa x4 and maxed out textures with radeon chill set to 36 fps (both sliders) and ssw (frame generation the headset itself processes) bumps it to the refresh rate of 72; without ssw I would probably turn it down
but the 5080 is really expensive, having "enough" vram at that price doesn't work for me, so I personally wouldn't recommend for vr, especially my metaquest 3 that renders more pixels than 4k. I like dlss, but nvidia just doesn't offer a card for a reasonable price in my area, I was eyeballing a 4070ti super, but it's 25% more money than a 7900xt, and think that's too much for less vram and dlss alone.
Have you thought about making a discord? Think it would be good to have a place for people to discuss
Thanks for the suggestion, I'm on a couple of Discords of other creators (such as the TechLabUK one, and Scan's own one) but maybe a Tech Overwrite Discord could work too. Will give that a think - thank you :)
I get it. I too am going back and forth. I want the 5090 but that price is just a lot. Yes i can buy it... but will I get the value out of it? I really need to see those 5080 reviews. I also wish they bumped the 5080 up to 24gb vram... disappointed they did not.
24GB VRAM would be awesome, although I suspect that's what NVIDIA are planning for a 5080 Ti or 5080 Super (probably with a 50% increased price lol). The 5090 is a beast, although I fear it's a bit too power hungry for me... plus I won't be able to fully use its full potential either.
What should i do? get the 5090 lower the power to 70% but then i still need to buy air-conditioning for my apartment. no thank you, i will just eat the sour apple of 16gb vram.
Heh, fair point - that sums up the choice really well. Yes I'd prefer a 5080 to a 5090 for similar reasons actually 🤔
Hmm, I think 16 is fine. I like that game devs are pushing the boundaries. when Crysis came out there weren't any cards that could reasonably play it at Extreme settings. The idea that a game comes out and requires you to have the absolute best card available to play at the absolute highest settings is reasonable, so long as the slightly lower settings aren't bad. And imo in Indiana Jones even the lower settings look incredibly good.
That's a good point, thank you - yes true, it's not a bad thing that they're pushing boundaries :)
Missing out this gen, keeping my 3080ti, I'll drop to 1440p or even 1080p if needed as (for me) the prices of the 50 series are so unreasonable.
That makes sense, it would be different if the 50 series delivered 20%+ generational gains but... nope.
i have a rtx 4070 ti super running indy at 3440x1440p with all option on full rt ,except frame gen and the lowest I get is 60 fps but for the most part am getting 72fps and am saving my pennes and am gonna get a 5090
Thanks for the input, glad that Indiana Jones is running fairly well with your 4070 Ti Super. Good luck on the 5090 purchase :)
You can still play latest games with 16 gb vram its still mostly enough just turn down the textures settings a little in Indiana Jones there are very few games which are exceptions where 16 gb vram will be exceeded stll not a cause for concern yet.
Good point thanks, I guess I'm mainly debating whether buying a 5080 for gaming is worth it since it'll likely be relatively expensive (when looking at the board partners) - especially for 16gb. Fair point that 16gb is plenty for 99% of games/settings though :)
Sure, but this a brand new high end card and it's already on a verge
@@TechOverwrite i would buy a 4080 super if 5080 are at 1600. 1600 usd for 16 gb is not worth it, IF you play at 4k, for 2k is fine.
New Space Marine 2 uses over 16gb. At 4k maxed settings with the texture pack my 4080s has random stutter and texture pop in. So it is hitting over 16gb. I wanted a 5080 when io assumed it would have came with more Vram. But ofc Nvidia suck and we get 16. Ill now wait for a refresh of 5080super or 5080ti to get im hoping 24gb. As well as say an extra 15% performance. Considering the 5090 has almost 2x the cores of the 5080. Should be easy to get a big core bump for performance as well as a vram boost. But be ready to pay 250 more i bet.
I'm going to be upgrading from a 8gb 2080. Crazy 16gb isn't enough. I dont plan on playing at 4k so should be alright.
That makes sense, and it'll be a massive upgrade for you (and me, with an RX 6700XT). Good luck with the purchase!
I play most games at 4k with my 6800xt max settings and it uses 15gb of 16 GB of vram and my ram is using 20 out of 32 gigs it's crazy how games use so much I'll be getting a 5080 I'm in uk as well going to be expensive I have 1200 ready for it but I will be a massive upgrade for me.
Interesting, glad to see another Brit who is equally annoyed at the 1200+ rumoured pricing lol 🙈 Yes vram is crazy in general, although it does sound like Nvidia cards can still perform better even with less vram - especially with RT on. We'll see. Good luck tomorrow 🤞
I saw the writing on the wall with 16gb 4 years ago. People notice it now? Sigh... Ok.
I'm slow sometimes 🙈 Lol. Thanks for watching.
I play at 3440x1440, 16GB VRAM should be enough for a while at least which was the main reason in getting the 4070Ti Super over a normal 4070 Super for that extra 4GB frame buffer.
That sounds like a good choice, it's nice that NVIDIA upped the VRAM on the Ti Super.
One YT mentioned the 5070=4070 super which I have already. Hoping for a 5070 super
Ah interesting, yes be good to see what happens with any refreshed cards later this year or next year.
NVIDIA fanboys: "It's plenty of VRAM"
*"But, Indiana Jones runs out VRAM without even getting max settings with Path Tracing"*
NVIDIA fanboy: *"you're using it wrong"*
Heh yeah that sums things up. It's frustrating - the third most powerful GPU (assuming the 5080 > 7900XTX) should be able to play Indiana Jones at all settings IMO.
In their eyes, they gave you enough Vram in the 5080 to last 2+ years or the launch of the 6000s....just don't add any mods. Now, if you like adding a load of 4k mods, there is always the 5090...right.
This is why I am keeping my 4090 and waiting for the 6000s. DLSS 4 really sank the 5000s because games that you ran 4k quality with DLSS 3, you can now run at balanced, and they even look better. Better looks and FPS, which adds more to the reason for keeping your 4090 and using your money on other parts, or start saving for that $5000 RTX 6090 lol
That's true, that's almost certainly their choice of only giving 16gb vram. I'm surprised they rolled out DLSS 4 to earlier cards - you'd think NVIDIA would have tried to limit it (although maybe they knew it would be easy to crack).
@@TechOverwrite Yeah, DLSS 4 really killed any thoughts of a 5090 for me. In testing, it's shockingly good for my setup.
GeForce Now Ultimate is your savior. 4080 24gb that you can use on any device. There's no better value out there.
I like GeForce Now - I reviewed it last year and I was surprised at how good it was actually.
Your concern is very valid! They can't/wont future proof their cards so people will keep upgrading or go for their 5090. Our choices sux this gen
Wait for 9070 XT/non-XT
Thanks, glad to know it's not just me thinking this. It's a frustrating situation all round :/
It's insane most ppl has 16GB system wide. But this crap of DLSS now make the system requirements insane to who want a native resolution and not a dynamic
Yep it's frustrating, it's crazy seeing some recent game requirements.
I’m really not happy with 16 gigs. Especially considering that RT only games like Indiana Jones and Doom: The Dark Ages are going to become the norm. Not to mention future console generations and their higher system VRAM are close on the horizon.
That's true, it's surprising to see more RT only games come out.
when you pay 1000+ dollars for something, you should not worry about vram. 5080 should have at least 18-20 gb but in a perfect world 24 gb. I bought one anyway but thats bcs i have 1070 right now with 8Gb and i cant afford 5090.
Yes I agree, it's frustrating all round. I'm 'lucky' that I ended up getting a 5080 at MSRP, but it's still expensive for 16GB VRAM. Still, it is proving to be an epic upgrade from my RX 6700XT. I hope yours work out well for you too 🙂
I wanna buy it for 1440p ultrawide high refresh gaming, 16 gig should be enough. Even 4k with DLSS performance mode, which is great now, will work fine.
That makes sense, I am tempted to get a 1440p high refresh monitor (my main monitor is a 60Hz 4K screen for video editing, but I could use a 1440p one for proper gaming)
preorderd a 5090 on release. i knew this was going to happen.. 16gb is not enough. people going out for a 5080 expecting to game at 4k with raytracing and all settings maxed are going to be very disapointed.. right now a 4090 or a 5090 are the only cards that can really play 4k. 5090 being the better option.
That's a fair decision - the 5090 is a brilliant card, and it'll last for a very long time. The 5080 is frustrating all around really, especially when you look at the board partner prices - paying more than 50% above MSRP for that seems crazy to me, to be honest.
@@TechOverwrite my only worry with the 5090 is if my power supply will be safe for it. im getting mixed messeges and not a solid answer. its 3.0 atx not 3.1 so the cable is the old one not the new ones. i dunno if thats safe or not. id assume the power supply is good but i really dunno. its an asus strix auros 3.0 gold 1200watt
I'm no techie, so this is an uneducated statement, but where is AMD (or any other nvidia competitors) and why aren't they looking at all the complaints about the 5080 etc and saying, lets make a better card at a cheaper price and it will sell truckloads, let's look at all the complaints people have about the 5080 and build a card that no one can complain about. Talk with gamers, videos editors etc and see what they're looking for and build prototypes and then if there's glitches, fix them , do more R&D and build a new prototype, until everyone is happy and the launch price point will not be greedy but acceptable for the power/performance the card has. Right now its like Nvidia can do what they want and people will still buy it.
Fair comment and it's a frustrating GPU market all round. AMD did used to have some good high end competition, but in recent years they seem to have moved more towards the mid range of cards. The upcoming 9070XT is rumoured to be good, but AMD ended up delaying it when they seen NVIDIA release the 50 series - which is concerning. Is it simply too hard nowadays to produce a high end GPU (for example)?
I think the reality is that we're approaching a situation where making the GPU hardware better each year is almost impossible, so things are shifting to the software side (frame gen, ray tracing etc). And for a variety of reasons, NVIDIA are way ahead on the software side.
I definitely hope that AMD and Intel's new cards start to beat out NVIDIA at the low and mid ranges, and then they can work up from there. We need more competition for sure.
@@TechOverwrite Bro thanks for reply, appreciated.
Another reason to wait for the 5080 super with 24 GB of VRAM. I hope idiots will rush in to buy current 5080s then the better ones will be available for the rest of us :)
Lol, that's a fair take. I also think that a 5080 Super will come out, but I could see it having a $1500-1600 MSRP or something silly.
As long time Nvidia user… I’m really thinking on going amd later this year just because of the vram.. I’m not paying $1500+ for a video card.
That's fair, the upcoming 9070XT could be promising. And naturally the 7900XTX has great render performance.
16gb is fine for 1440p. 4k high is pushing it especially with the unoptimised games we get now with the latter i think being the bigger issue.
Thanks, that's a good point - and reassuring to know :)
5070ti is the most bang for buck that will future proof you for a good few years
It does look very good, I agree. I just wish they released the 5070 Ti today too, but I think NVIDIA know it's a good deal so they want to hype it up a lot next month.
Great video! Me personally & probably I'm gonna buy sooner the 5070Ti since I've been waiting this upgrade from 20 series I already Have a GTx 1060 & Rtx 2060 35% difference which's great back then I m still playing game on 1440p & 1080p with 6gb Vram
so 5070Ti would be 1000% difference & great upgrade
I'd luv to have an Rtx 5090 but way to expensive 3k for 30% performance compared to 5070ti however 16gb Vram is way too little, should be at least 20gb..
Thanks :) And that sounds like a good plan, the 5070 Ti should be a massive upgrade for you I agree.
After Nvidia benchmarks and AMD leaks I have ordered RX 7900 XTX. 24GB FTW. As you show at 1:29 Ultra Settings are bullshit, so I don't care a lot about the benchmarks.
Nice, that's an epic GPU. I was debating about that card, that will serve you well for a long time :)
Why would any sane gamer pay £1200 for a card that releases tomorrow, when it can't run already released titles at the resolution they want without dialling down settings? Nvidia will only listen if people don't pander to their nonsense. Leave the cards on the shelves.
Yep I get that. It's frustrating, and actually I had my eye on a nice looking white 5080 AIB but it was £1300 - crazy money for a 16gb card IMO.
Well if you wanna game at 4K Ultra with all the whistles and bells running and not compromise on the settings , you're going to have to suck down reality that 16G aint gonna cut the mustard going forward. You know it's not a "cheap" resolution to play at . If you want to play 4K Ultra your going to have to dig deep and pay for the cards that will allow you to do that. I have a 16Gig card but game at 1440p ultra and I am willing to turn down the settings when the need arises but as I have never exceeded using 8 to 10 Gigs of of Vram in any game I have played I think I will be ok for a good while longer.
Great points, that's a reasonable stance. To be honest while I do have a 4k monitor for video editing, I am happy to render at 1440p. I've half considered getting a higher Hz 1440p monitor for gaming actually (since my 4k monitor is only 60hz).
In my opinion more VRAM better with more horsepower. 5080 with 16 gigs of VRAM I think sweetspot for me though. Well I'm just gaming with 4070 (primary PC) and my old CRT why bother about that. But, my problems occur when I want to render big 3D scene, bake some 8K textures in 3D software or generate some image with AI. In a productive way I really need bigger VRAM. Otherwise, in gaming I don't really need it.
Meanwhile my secondary PC maybe needs upgrade too from RX Vega 64 to some RDNA 2 cards like the 6700 XT. I just wanna see from other perspective "can I still productive use Radeon GPU" things like that. My conclusion is just buy it, and enjoy!
Great comment, thanks glad that the 5080 will work fine for you (or at least, for your gaming). "My conclusion is just buy it, and enjoy!" - very true, good point :)
I agree with you, 1200+ bucks for a 16GB card is absurd in 2025. It would've probably been better to stick to GDDR6X and give it 24GB, though I know nothing about graphic cards manufacturing, so there's a chance that wouldn't be possible for some reason unbeknownst to me.
Though in fairness, not even a 4090 or 5090 will run those games properly with path tracing, native 4k. You're expected to use DLSS with that kind of settings, which is absolutely fine to me. Now the question is, does it still crash if you have DLSS enabled? If so, then that's a big issue... But even if it doesn't, most people spending that kind of money on a GPU expect it to last at least 2 generations, so 16GB is already a struggle in 2025, can't imagine it will be doing very well in ~2029...
Hope you're feeling better!
Thanks, I'm feeling a bit better but still getting a bit hammered by it 🙈 Thanks, that all makes sense - and fair point that the 4090/5090 also struggles there. You're right that it's better with DLSS/1440p, IIRC. I am still leaning towards the 5080 to be honest (assuming it's a touch lower than 1200gbp, will see tomorrow). It sounds like it brings a decent improvement in video encoding/decoding which could be useful to me. Good luck on the 5090 hunting tomorrow 🤞
@@TechOverwrite Yeah I always find it hard to purchase something from past generations, even if the performance is nearly the same, you're still paying ~1000gbp for a 2 year old product... I would go for a 4080 Super if it was extremely discounted, but otherwise I'd go with the 5080 (or a used 4090, but personally I wouldn't get one unless it was off of someone I knew).
Thanks, I just looked it up and so far one store has 4 of them with the price up. 3 of which are in 3000€ (2500gbp) and a single one at 2400€ (2000gbp), no doubt that one will sell out within seconds, if it even gets any stock to begin with... It's definitely gonna be a challenge. And if you're curious, the cheapest 5080s in the store are 1350€ (1130gbp), so there might be some hope for you, since your VAT is 20% and ours is 23%...
Yes I get that, I tend to prefer skipping 1-2 generations but then doing a 'big' upgrade and going latest gen for similar reasons to you.
Did you have any luck getting one yesterday?
Thanks for that. AIB cards were a bit of a nightmare in the UK - there were 1-2 5080s for £1100 but they seemed to be out of stock immediately. I was then half looking at paying £1200-1300 for a white OC 5080 out of desperation lol, but even then all the retailer's websites kept crashing over and over (and I wasn't overly willing to pay that much on a 5080). But then the 'add to basket' link appeared on the NVIDIA website, and I ordered an 5080 FE. It hasn't shipped yet so I'm not getting too excited yet, but fingers crossed.
@@TechOverwrite So you ended up paying "just" £1000 for the 5080? Assuming it ships... Nice! I wouldn't get a 5090 FE, but the cooler seems to work a lot better for the lower wattage of the 5080!
I wasn't so lucky. I was refreshing a bunch of different websites at the time of launch, but only one of them had the 5090 in stock to begin with (it wasn't even a Portuguese store, it was Spanish. I'm not sure we had any stock at all in Portugal), and I wasn't about to pay 3050€ for an MSI Gaming Trio. Going from a 4090 to a 5090 is pretty stupid at any price point, so I promised myself I wouldn't pay a cent over 3000€ (which is already absurd), and even at that price I wouldn't do that unless it was a top tier model... It was a total paper launch, and apparently production won't be getting better anytime soon because of the Chinese New Year, so we'll see if I manage to snag one within the next 2 or 3 months for a "reasonable" price.
@@TMLFerreira > So you ended up paying "just" £1000 for the 5080? Assuming it ships... Nice!
Yep, £979 I think - which I'm naturally happy with (especially because you can't buy a 4080 or 4080 Super anymore in the UK).
> I wouldn't get a 5090 FE, but the cooler seems to work a lot better for the lower wattage of the 5080!
Yes I get this - the temperature stats for closed-base 5090 FE builds don't look fun! Agreed about the 5080 though. Hopefully I can give it a good test soon - again assuming it ships LOL.
> I wasn't so lucky. I was refreshing a bunch of different websites at the time of launch, but only one of them had the 5090 in stock to begin with (it wasn't even a Portuguese store, it was Spanish. I'm not sure we had any stock at all in Portugal), and I wasn't about to pay 3050€ for an MSI Gaming Trio. Going from a 4090 to a 5090 is pretty stupid at any price point, so I promised myself I wouldn't pay a cent over 3000€ (which is already absurd), and even at that price I wouldn't do that unless it was a top tier model... It was a total paper launch, and apparently production won't be getting better anytime soon because of the Chinese New Year, so we'll see if I manage to snag one within the next 2 or 3 months for a "reasonable" price.
Aww sorry to hear that, that's really frustrating. 5090 stock in particular didn't seem good but that's definitely crazy about being over 3000 Euros. The AIB prices haven't been fun at all. Yes fingers crossed the situation will improve in a few months.
I only go for cards that have 20+GB of VRAM. I don't know why Nvidia is so stingy. Simply releasing a 5080 - 16GB model and a 5080 24 GB model would be enough to see what ppl prefer same goes for their flagship 5090 32GB and 64GB. There are ppl that would pay 4K for that high end card, while more reasonable ppl could choose what they really need. I bet there ar a lot of hobbyists that want to run LLMs local or have other interesting ideas on how to put high VRAM cards to use beside gaming.
Yes that's true, and I wouldn't mind playing around with local LLMs so it is a pity that they're being stingy here.
Hi, I bought a 4090. Wont Risk the V Ram, If now it isnt enough for 4k, in 1 two years will be obsolete, its too short lived for a 1000 us card.
The 4090 is a brilliant card - definitely a good card to have considering how this 50 series has been turning out so far.
@@TechOverwrite im confident will get multi fg via mods
Nice video, but this phrase like "Some of the games like Indina (eats more than 16 gigs)", and its literally the only one game that is screwed with 16gb vram. And im more than sure, that it was created specially for 4090 and 5090, cause just turn off Supreme texture pull to ultra or high, and u will get the same image, same quality, everything the same. Mb it's for the future UE updates with nvidia's AI textures. This take could be good if we had every third AAA game with this kind of video memory allocation, but we don't have that, so it's really pointless for now.
But yeah, for the future we have a new name for the green team with their vram politic - Greedvidia
P.S. Going to buy 5070 ti 🤟 (sold my 4070 super in November, and waiting for the release on my old 1060)
Thanks for watching and commenting, and that's a good point that it's bad wording on my part. Yes it's frustrating all round from Nvidia. Good luck with the 5070 Ti, that looks like it'll be an awesome card.
its easy don't buy a gpu, u want vram get a 7900xt or xtx u want a car go buy one not a nvidea card. they will pump and dump you every chance they get to force u onto there latest platform. (EG. frame gen and not giving support to idk older gen cards that with free software you can do it easily)
That's fair, thanks for your thoughts. That does pretty much sum it up. NVIDIA aren't known for giving excess to their customers lol (although the DLSS4 upgrade is looking like a nice bonus to 30/40 series owners). I'll see what the reviews say tonight.
its ok not everyone can afford cards with extra vram so make games that dont play on our systems and we stop buying simple
That's true, it does feel like it's reaching a bit of a 'battle point' where GPU makers can't make increasingly powerful cards (each year), and us consumers can't afford increasingly expensive cards lol.
What the poit to get into 4K gaming? Looking at Steam's info about users that have 4K monitors it's the LOWEST amount of all, for comparison 1080p it's around 55% and 20% for 2K. And 4!!!! % of 4K users. It seems that Nvidia saw the reviews about 4K this and that and fall for it, but in reality is right opposite. Besides, the cost of good 4K gaming monitor's is stil very high. If we look at performance of same graphic card's in 4K and 2K, it shows the BIG difference, not sure if you planing or now having 4K monitor, but take this to note.
And, last but not least, running games at ULTRA settings in 2K is not using that many VRAM, soo... Im uprading my 3060 ti (with only 8Gb) to 5070 Ti, just because it better than mine and 4070 super(and seem's to be on one level with 4080 super), and hoping that you change youre mind about actual problem with VRAM amount.
Good point, thanks for watching and commenting. I agree - I think that 2K is the sweet spot right now. I only have a 4K monitor for video editing, but I'm debating buying a 1440p 240hz monitor for gaming. Not sure yet.
I'll be going for the 5080 on launch, fingers have done their exercises ready to snag a fe model. idk if they're gonna redirect to scan this time but I'm signed in and got details saved just in case. good luck everyone
Yep, good luck :) It sounds like it will either be a redirect to Scan, or they'll almost have an within the nvidia site (but same deal - being logged into the Scan account will be key)
@TechOverwrite man it was an absolute disaster in the uk I was refreshing like crazy tried different browsers closed tabs opened them up again and I was never able to buy them. it just went straight from coming soon to oos. absolutely insane, hopefully they have a decent restock next month
Yep, I was trying to buy an AIB 5080 and the add to basket link never appeared - and I had lots of crashes too. I _might_ have got lucky with a FE model, but it hasn't been shipped yet so I'm not getting my hopes up yet lol.
@@TechOverwrite damn at least your button let you buy it, idk if it's a WiFi thing but I just think they didn't have enough stock. judging by how bad it was in America we probably got barely a handful of supply
One insane studio pushing some major bs likely bankrolled by Nvidia is not an indicator of anything... Hot take: 8gb is still just fine... Not great but fine... 16gb is perfect.
Fair points, thank you :) It does seem like since the 5080 isn't amazing at native 4k PT, 16gb of vram is probably going to be fine for 99% of cases.
@TechOverwrite yes agreed, and if the 5080 is good value is a whole other can of worms, spoiler: it's not 😂.
16gb vram is not enough for 4k, when you enable RT/PT it is even then a clown show, what do people think of 4k ? it is easy to run ?
Even the 4090 can not do alot of gamesi n 4k and 60fps at max settings.
the 4080 super / 5080 are 1440p cards as the rx7900xtx is, nothing more then that.
This take is ridiculous. There is no game the 4090 can’t run at 4K. Given that all modern releases utilize TAA by default, upscaling poses no detriment to image quality. On the contrary, it is often better than native if native uses TAA.
The 4080 and 5080 both have more the horsepower to run at 4K with all bells and whistles. The only thing holding them back is the VRAM.
Fair points both - and actually, the fact that DLSS can now look better than native is interesting. I'm not expecting to game at 4K native, so that is a 'plus point' (sort of) for the 5080.