Hellboy (2019) Spoilers Discussion
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2019
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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex spoil and discuss the Hellboy reboot! All the best and worst parts, plot holes and dumb moments!
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I think Guillermo Del Toro should do a third Hellboy anyway. The fans nowadays are smart enough to know that the movies aren't connected.
You'd be surprised there are still people who think Craig played the same character as Connery and Moore
The originals hardly made any money, making the first 2 was difficult enough. We're never gonna get another.
We gotta give Joe props. You can tell he's trying really hard not to interrupt. He even warns them haha
it's not his fault, there's people like that, you talk to them and they are thinking of what to say and don't hear you.
@@UncleDaniel that isn't what Joe does. Clearly if u watch you'll see he pays attention to Alex and OJ.
Its cus people complain about it he doesnt actually care lel.
@@Arcticninja123 imagine saying “Lel”, are you 5?
@@UncleDanielit’s called being a narcissist
Drunk editing in the end seems to signal the quality of the movie being reviewed/spoiled
Angry Joe interrupted them so much they desynced.
The very first thing I said when I saw the trailer was, "Why? Who asked for this? We already have a Hellboy 1 and 2, where the hell is the 3rd? Who thought this was needed?"
I had the same thoughts with the new men in black trailers, please god someone stop these people from ruining good movies.
@@GodlyEddy To be honest, I think the 3RD MIB is the best one in the entire trilogy. With the 2nd being the absolute worst.
Everytime they say Baba Yaga I think it's John Wick lol
Amit Patel Wasn't that also a gag in Ant-Man and the Wasp?
@@Turt3752 I never saw Antman and the wasp lol
In folk lore Baba Yaga is an old woman with chicken legs. Just like Keanu Reeves?
Purefoldnz sounds like momo
John wick is the one you sent to kill the baba yaga 😝😝
Love how i got an ad for Hellboy while watching this lol
Thats called irony 😂😂
THANK YOU for not talking over Other Joe and Alex so much!
What a crybaby
Yeah im sure alex had words with angry joe and said something along tge lines like. "Let us finish a fukn sentence for fucks sake."
They would make a good music barbershop quartet.... or actors in a movie about a barbers quartet made of actual barbers who go around murdering people in the the ... whatever century wherever city
Uhhh He did it like crazy lol wtf
It doesn't fucking matter if he does talk over.. they all talk over each other.
10:10
Alex: "Earlier in the fi-"
Joe: "AHhHGHHHHAHAHDHAS"
8:26
He can’t help his ill manners lol
The audio sync got as drunk as Joe for a while there. Fun review guys I really enjoy what you’re putting out lately! Hoping the weekly news videos keep coming as well! :)
John Wick is the guy you send to kill Baba Yaga
😂😂😂
He is the boogeyman after all ;)
Wrong baba yaga
So he would kill himself? lol.
always loved that line!!!!
she was riding the demon fersure.
yes,
that's how babies are made.
classic.
I'm gonna resurrect Stalin. He'll have no power, no one will recognize him, and he's literally just a normal guy who only had power because of society and politics. INGENIOUS!
@Oceanic Dangernoodle I actually studied Soviet history in college, and had teachers who grew up in the Soviet Union. I'm not going to bring up politics, but when people think for themselves people like Stalin and Hitler have no power.
Ian Linn After further review, I think he was trolling you tbh...
What about Mao Zedong? Even if he's worse than Stalin and Chiang Kai Shek, the Chinese think of him as a hero.
@@ianlinn596 i mean alot of people thought for themselves under those regimes. they just met untimely ends. have alot of people following your orders with guns tends to do that
Damn angry joe... 3 videos in one day!!!
3 videos in 2 hours even better !
The movie ones are one video split in 2
I think he wanted to warn people before they spent their money which I appreciate.
Chasing that sweet ad revenue
9 videos in one week!
I miss the old Hellboy films.
Have you seen this one? I swear, it's better.
@@dausenmoore seen it and it sucks
@Adrijana Radosevic the new star wars movies didn't take away the old ones wtf are you on...
We didn't get hellboy 3 for THIS!!!!? WTF
Del Toro wanted enough money to do the property properly and full creative control and final say in the finished edit... Lionsgate refused and decided to do Suicide Squad mixed with all the wrong lessons from Deadpool and we wound up with this shit-fest.
They gave the movie $50 mil that's way too little to make much, let alone retakes and proper editing.
@@nicknevco215 no excuses my man, they gave no shits to begin with, with that budget. They just wanted quick money and just like the new star wars trilogy, to milk the fanbase. Since they knew people loved hellboy, they wanted to take advantage of us, nope, karma lmao. Glad this pile of crap bombed.
@@nicknevco215 50 Million is enough!!! Blumhouse makes cheaper movies and makes quadruple the profits....
Not if they want real special effects and CGI that takes $80-$120 mil at least based upon the region it is developed.
They should make hellboy 3 with hellboy watching this movie and criticizing it and shooting it at the end
This review is probably better than the movie.
The movie was crazy fun. I absolutely loved it.
This review actually complimented the movie well... one thing they forgot to make fun of was Baba Yagas breasts...
Cheers Joe and gang. Keep doing what you're doing
"They see a cool house with chicken legs." Seems legit! LOL
23:40 Didn't know Other Joe and Alex had telekenetic powers
If you really want to see how the Hellboy comics should look on film, check out the animated movie: Blood and Iron. That's how Hellboy should be, not this... thing.
comicbookartist1 yeah I was going to see. Del Toro, Pearlman, Blair and all of the other original movie cast made two Animated movies (I think, I only saw two on Vudu) which were pretty good. I guess you could head cannon those in as III and IV and pretend this one was never made.
The animated movies were pretty cool. Not enough to make me want to buy a comic, but enough to make me want more animated films or a series.
@@toddknaperek8225 Unfortunately they only made two. As much as I like the live action movies Del Toro made, I like the cartoons more. While good, movie Hellboy was not quite like the comics. He was a bit more immature and more temperamental in the movies. The Cartoons did a good job of capturing his "roll with the punches" from the comics. It also got rid of the wierd relationship he had with Liz in the movies, and made her and Abe interested in each other like the comics. In the comics Hellboy didn't really have a love interest until he met Alice, near the end. In the comics, Alice was a redhead from Ireland.
If you liked the animated films, love the comics. The Animated films did a great job of capturing the feel of the books, even down to the way the comics used color for storytelling. And I totally agree that their should have been more of them.
The quit while you're a head line from the movie was epic just because you could totally see how much the actor didn't want to deliver the line.
I got my ticket to this garbage for free, yet for some reason, I still feel ripped off.
Same. Free yet I was pissed
that desynch made it even funnier
I think the worst part of this movie was it's portrayal of Professor Broom. They made him into a total Jackass without any actual sympathy! Why would they do this?!
Love your genuine love and commentary for quality media and entertainment my dude, been a fan for years, papa bless ✌
3 Joe Thomas Hayden Church was actually Sandman in Spider Man 3.
The Ogdru Jahad from hellboy one was fantastic even though I don't know the enemy from the comics but it gives off a Lovecraft cosmic horror vibe. A unknowable, unfathomable cosmic horror.
Instead we get this... Facepalm*
23:26 Joe got so drunk, the audio got misaligned... Lol. 💖💖💖👍👍👍😂😂😂
Android 16: I AM A HEAD!
Vegeta: Well, maybe you should quit while you are.
Did they steal this gem from TFS?
Yes.
Sad thing, the comics are way less grotesque and more melancholic, yes there are wacky moments and action, but the overall tone is mostly a dread, ominous tone and feels like the end of an era....
It's nothing like the comics, but everybody is going to relate this movie to them....
Yea. The animated movies seem to be closer to the comics than this movie
I remember how they initially said this film was going to be closer to that tone then the Del Toro films were. That was the only reason I was even excited for it in the first place. I haven't even seen this movie yet, but from hearing all the bad shit about it, I'm not even caring about spoilers.
@@War624 That was during the Comic Con press teasers with Mike Mignola.... He fking lied to everyone that day...
I knew this movie would suck as soon as they released the poster with the tagline " Legendary af"
They changed the Tagline to Demons Have Demons Too...
Baba Yaga is like the boogie man... Remember John Wick?! The Baba Yaga steals children's souls by dragging them into the shadows.
I KNEW THIS MOVIE WOULD BE HOT GARBAGE!, from the trailers alone it look bad, and it wouldn't be good as the originals!
We all did.
When I saw "Magnet" I had flashbacks to "Stitches, ABCs of Death, etc". They don't have a very good quality of film making.
When i saw the first one i was like OH HELL NOOOOOOooooooooHHHAAAAAA
yeah, just look the trailer tale you alot about this movie
and it turn out to be horrible =]]
I wanna get real stupid high and go see this movie
This film was directed by the devil
More like produced by about a dozen devils, waaaaaaay too many chefs spoiling the soup so to speak.
It was directed at all. It was directed by a bunch of producers to cash in on the current superhero movie hype.
OTTOBOTTO 10101 😂👍🏼
That's an insult to the devil
Demon Joe??
So a legendary witch tells a changeling to go resurrect a different legendary witch?
No. In the comic, Hellboy would say "quit while you're ahead", chuckle to himself, and then literally everyone else would groan and tell him that was the worst joke they'd ever heard.
Key difference.
yeah he had bad pun jokes
@@nicknevco215 Exactly! The joke in the comics is that he has a horrible sense of humor. This movie wants you to take his jokes at face value and it just DOESN'T work.
I wrote this made up Swat Scene for Hellboy when I first saw the Trailer with the awful Billy Idol music, posted it on the Hellboy Reddit and the people there just weren't having it... I really enjoyed this made up scene tho... I might still watch the movie on Saturday or Sunday.
There can be "comedy" in a Hellboy movie, just not done in a way that looks separate from the Comic Source and even something that looks abandoned from the DelToro Films.
They just needed to be more subtle, dramatic and create a narrative where its a graphic novel and not a ripoff series.
This is an R rated movie for adults right? It was supposed to be a Hellboy movie like the Mike Mignola comics and somewhat like the DelToros Hellboy movies right?
Instead what was seen on the Hellboy trailer, we are presented with a film that looks close to Hellboy the comic books but has lost most of its emotional impact on an older audience and an audience that would have praised the film in a broader spectrum.
As for the specific "Swat Scene" I have changed the way the scene is executed, but still have the "humor" of what's presented in the trailer for Hellboy "reboot" 2019.
We have a shot of the Swat Team preparing their positions...The officers are tense, they dont know what to expect, they can't protect everyone, not even themselves. They are all visibly shaken...
We have a shot of a close up to Hellboys left hand as he smokes a cigarette...
As the truck makes its stop in front of the Swat Team.
The Officers open fire at the truck...not once though...that ain't funny...The officers are too tense, they shoot first and ask questions later...
The scene pans from the left of the truck and then the BPRD logo is shown from the left side of the truck (the side of the truck seen in the trailer has no BPRD Logo on the Right Side!) and then the camera pans to reveal Hellboy getting out of the truck.
With his lit cigerette he takes a breather from it, exhales, and then says... "Buncha amateurs."....
BOOM! Cut to the Hellboy title...play Mony Mony... 5-10 second trailer AD! ... This is starting to become... Hellboy the Fan Theory...
Scene Continues
He then turns to the Swat officers, flashes his credentials and shouts "BPRD! I'm taking over now! Go home, ya gonna get yourselves killed!"...
Hellboy says to himself...
"Damn Fortnite Kids, with their shitty aim..." Hellboy smokes again, exhales...
With a smug face Hellboy shakes his head takes another good breather from his cigarette, exhales out, then puts out his Cig onto his Stone Arm.
THEN... Cut to the Officers exclaiming their apologies, with Hellboy looking smug and shakes his head, waving back at them...
Hellboy Lights another cig, and then breathes deep...exhales...
(In that moment, a flying man bat thing grabs one of those Swat Officers and takes him flying off. Hellboys repsonse... "Ah...Crap"
(Either stop there, or start having Hellboy shooting at the Man Bat thing, whatever is attacking the building, (his cigarette has fallen outta his lips during the action) barely saving the Officer as others come to his aide)
Then he looks around and then up and sees the mess these flying overgrown bats have caused.
He then tries to console everyone (poorly at that, everyones dead...and the Swat Officers are made to look like rookies compared to our main man of the midnight hour) he waves and tells them "Hey, no worries, its my job!"
Hellboy takes another cig, lights it then smokes again... Hellboy says "Ah, shit, it ain't looking too good." and breathes that cigarette deep, exhales... (Flicks cig before entering the buidling)
And then he starts walking into the entrance... As another officer is taken out by another man bat...more gunfire...(whoops Red, shoulda stayed longer)
End Scene.
Thats how its done bois.
Joe... Godzilla trailer #3... It was absolutely beautiful and gave me chills. The music... The mister fights! The CHAOS! Most anticipated movie for me now.
When the whisky comes out the review gets lit!!! Alex was savage at the end!!! “If it ended right there I would have had so much more to do” 🤣
oh man, in the 'I love you' scene, people LAUGHED at my screening. I kind of feel bad for Harbour. Should not have taken this role.
XD YEP! How sad it is that it's universal.
@@directentertainmentaplacef8630 It's from Millennium and LionsGate
@asian dude Its cause its cringey... People felt embarrassed for Hellboy because hes drunk....
I laughed too, but that wasn't making fun of Harbour, it was funny because he was drunk fanboying Lobster. I felt so related, because I too got drunk for my grandpa's wake. We drank heavily, and poured some out on his grave, classic Irish tradition. We were being complete idiots, and it was caught on camera too, I could sympathize with Hellboy there.
How drunk were you guys when editing this video? Audio is out of sync.
Yeah, its fucking with my head!
Vinícius Queiroz I heard there was studio interference with the movie.
Ay I'll be watching out for this floating turd on my adventures on the high seas.
Great review, it's very much appreciated to get the chance to hear more from other Joe and Beefy Joe.
You guys should legit do a drunk section at the end of more reviews, this was my favourite review ever 😂
That's what they get for trying to upstage Ron Pearlman and Guillermo Del Toro. 😂
Wrong..... They both only were going to do the movie if the budget was bigger... which is Bullshit...Because this Hellboy movie at 50 million had tons of Action and Horror elements... It makes no sense... my guess is that DelToro wanted more money for his other projects...
@@tsohgallik yeah the movie made no sense.
@@VoidBL I'm talking about the fact DelToro did not want to work on the for the Hellboy Reboot for 50million. DelToro should have worked on the film with any budget.
9:07 Holy shit, that's a lot of beer just...gone
I like how they depicted Gruagach in the film as well. As Joe said, a very relatable character, and indeed, he actually was cursed with being unable to die. The reason he was stuck in his current form is a rather complicated thing, but basically Merlin cursed him. The queen of blood did take him away as she did here, and he did regret what he was going to do to the world, which she punished him for, but even hanging him by a noose, he still could not die, even though Hellboy shot him a bunch of times. They were more merciful to the poor Guagach, letting him die here.
I wasn't gonna finish watching it, but you guys made me laugh so hard i have to see the rest for myself
Out of sync? Around by 24 minutes? I had to get a drink for myself to compensate it. ^^
disgusteDGuy lmao I was like either I’m really high or it’s edited weird
lol I saw this movie last year at an early screening and have just been waiting for this messy reception 🤣
Wow you saw it at the test screening? Why didnt you tell them its bad? You should have said something so that they reshoot the movie
tsohgallik haha it was too far in development, I think. They said what we saw was mostly what was gonna be final. Can’t say much beyond that. Believe me, I did leave honest feedback. Basically said it felt like a late 90s first attempt at a bizarre superhero flick and that watching the original again would be time better spent haha
I think it's really smart that you do a movie review, and then a separate review with spoilers but the spoilers videos are always better imo
Getting a Hellboy ad before this video plays is peak irony.
You roll up a newspaper, and you hit 'em...BAD movie studio, no more bad comic book movies....
Timmy, what did we say about bastardizing good IPs?
It's the paddle for you if you do it again, you little brat!
I recognize that Character you have as a avatar.
I forgot his name but he is from the PS1 game Xenogears
@@KINDERGARTEN-COP That would be Citan Uzuki or Hyuuga Riccdau, hardly anyone ever mentions Xenogears anymore, one of the best stories in all of RPGdom...
@@42Mrgreenman hell yea thats tru ...i still have the physical copy 🔥🔥
Where is the angry review for the movie? Can't seem to find it on the channel
@Josh Jacobs Found it, thx
20:22 Karl Ruprecht Kroenen one of my favorite characters in the hellboy comics
I will gladly watch videos of you guys just hanging out after you turn off the camera (well, and turn it on again). Outside of the Joe/Alex audio, that was so much fun.
They really screwed up the Hellboy story in this. The dads been dead along time, Hellboy acts more grown up in the comics, because they skipped so far ahead, you lose the arcs of many of the side characters, there’s no vomiting ghosts, Merlin’s not a good guy, Excalibur wasn’t important, it ends with Hellboys death and being dragged to hell and the world is being destroyed.
There was a great story written already and all they had to do was follow it
I think directors and writers have a certain arrogance that makes them think they can do better than those that wrote the source material. WHY use it, then?
I hope they upgrade from beer to whisky on every review from now on
It is weird. In the comics, originally, Hellboy was trained by The Torch, a Captain America-like WW2 costumed hero that was actually created by John Byrne. Since, Mignola couldn't use the Torch, he replaced him with Lobster Johnson (which is kinda slang for genital crabs). In the comics, Hellboy is not an overgrown teenager, and he has no father-son relationship with Broom. All that is from the Del Toro movies. So, really, this new movie is more a bad remake of the original movie - not more faithful to the comics at all.
Lol at about 23.25 of the video all them are drunk and lip synching editing is top notch love it lmfao !!!
The problem is you guys review sooooooo great, that you make even crap movies sound legendary..... Love it!
Someone should make a static shock movie. But a good one. Not this.
I wish
I would rather see a Static Shock live action TV show but that's just me.
Either my computer is lagging again or theres some big de-syncing going on ;p (or Joe got drunk after that movie and didnt bother hahaha)
About Alice, she mentioned the spirits showed her where he was. It can be inferred that they wanted her to find him and to try and kill him.
Pretty sure u literally no joke mean angry this time. And as a Hellboy fan... I agree
Edit: (damn people really out here actin like Hellboy never had his own comic and tv series. I didn’t even mention his other movies 😂 y’all wiggin)
Wtf did you just say?
Th3 Envy p do other people’s opinions scare you or something dude?
As a "Hellboy Fan", you mean a fan of 2 mediocre movies that were never good, like most of the posers pretending they loved those pitiful movies. Real Hellboy was always the comics, those prior movies which got the adaption all wrong, weren't that good to even warrant staying faithful to, or good at all. This movie may suck but not because its not faithful to the already wrong adaption of those previous lame movies.
Ryan Savage I also have no idea what you just said
Ryan Savage no we’re just trying to decipher what you just said
When you guys describe scenes from the movie it sounds awesome and makes me want to see it.
The amount of beer that's left from the spoiler free discussion 😂
The character at the very end of the credits was Koshchei the Deathless who’s from the comics
Love Excalibur too! Great movie! Merlin was so freakin awesome in it!!!
LivingZombieJew The movie was shit not great
Damn i was hoping this was going to be a good flick.
It is good. I loved literally every single second of it. If you liked the trailers then you'll like the movie.
I like Joe's game reviews but I'd completely ignore his movie reviews if I were you.
The movie is a mess. Joe is right this time.
Its a hot mess, but a sequel can fix the problems... at least this time Ian MacShame wont be coming back
I liked it. I don't get what they didn't. My wife and I were nervous going in, because I saw Joe's review, but I don't regret seeing it an instant. I don't get why people didn't like it. It was good! Not great, but good, honestly it did better job with the characters than the original. Hell Gruagach, Nimue, Merlin, frigging fairies and changelings, undead, the Arthurian legend. I just don't get why they would prefer the original Hellboy film where the only thing good in it was the acting, but the story was absolutely terrible, even including characters not in the comics. This one had characters straight out of the comics, but done even better. Hell I bet Joe didn't even know who Major Ben Daimio, Alice Monaghan, or the Lobster, is. Oh well, loved it.
@@tsohgallik Agreed. Like him and all, especially in John Wick, but he is not the right actor to pick for Professor Broom.
“Behold, Excalibur! The sword of power.” Excalibur is awesome.
I read there were clashes between the director and producers on the direction. Knowing the directors previous movies, i think this movie was meant to be a horror movie. Yet the producers, im sure, wanted comedy added. An thats why the movie is all over the place. Also they diregarded the directors edit as well.
Aww!
I am sad that it was so bad!
It looked kinda cool!
Not the same as the old ones but still cool!
Wait... only the left side is out of sync lol. Is that a joke to the people who say you talk over them too much. You just desynced them hahahaha.
Alex: Your jacket's gone...
AJ: You are de-synced...
Parts of the changeling felt like they were lifted from tales of Arcadia. His dialogue type and connection to the human world as well.
Anyone else notice he said sand man was in spider man 2. 13:45
I got so heated when they said that shit and most of the stuff that said was inaccurate
@@alcoholicthot4261Yup, even some of the stuff in the film they 'watched' was inaccurate. I know, I saw it with my wife. I give it a 7/10, perhaps an 8 at moments, but its not a B film, it has budget, and heart. I love it.
So Joe, you're saying this movie could be a good time, if you're drunk. But you'll probably won't remember it in T-minus one day.
joeslickback Haaaaah nice Jermey Jahns reference!
I like how their done like 3 times but there's always 10 minutes left 😂
Deerhead guy: "Hellboy, you must cut down the tallest tree in the forest .... with a herring."
I honestly enjoyed this movie. The movies plot obviously wasn’t the best but I thought the creature designs were awesome and the action/fighting scenes were amazing!
Thank you. I enjoyed David Haurbors take on Hellboy. Didnt like many other things but that saved the movie for me.
Sandman is in Spider-Man 3 btw ;)
As if either were good enough to care.
@@directentertainmentaplacef8630 I'm just being factual ;)
9:00 can I get another to talk about this movie! Drinks Huge beer during the first 20 minute review, need a refill for the spoiler section.
It was not Kroenen Baba Yaga was talking to at the end of the film it was Koshchei, a figure from Slavic Folklore.
End of each year... Can the AJ crew do 10 best and 10 worst films?
They have for a few years now
Man.. we could have had Hellboy 3 but nnnoooopppppppeeeee. We got this. =\
This is better than the old Hellboy movies. Seriously, ignore these horrible reviews and see for yourself.
@@dausenmoore you must of drank More than Alex 😂
This is a bad movie
The original first 2 were great.
@@jayc5555 At the end of the day, I enjoyed the new movie more despite its flaws. I just wish the end with the demons lasted longer.
Joe, can we please have the MCU films ranked before Endgame
P.s keep up the good work, enjoying watching Ur channel
I love how drunk you are at the end Joe this movie was so terrible you just had to get wasted to forget about it 😂😂 keep it up man 🙌🏽
Has milla jovovich been in anything good since 5th element?
Nope !!
Lmaooooo hell no
Multi pass
A Perfect Getaway is fun
I'm so sad about this, Hellboy is my favourite comic book character and, despite the trailer looking like garbage, I was really hoping this to be good...
HAL NOVEMILA same
@@camwad1238 The universe and concept are fascinating and creative. The hacks that call themselves writers bastardizing it are not.
Neil Marshall is terrible....Same with Mike Mignola... the dude is a hack... I saw him in person at Earth2Comics and it took a lot of energy to keep myself from arguing about the movie...
Guillermo DelToro created a masterpiece with The Shape of Water.... It was what Hellboy was supposed to look like....
The sadest thing is all the stuff you mention is mostly directly from the comics. Lobster Johnson, the pig fairy thing that steals the baby and later wants revenge, etc. And their stories are really important to the Hellboy story. But dear lord does it sound like the executed them incredibly badly. See the Hellboy comic is a lot of small short self contained stories, that do eventually tie together. Almost like an anthology or short story collection. But you can't make a single movie out of a bunch of semi disconnected short stories. Which is what it sounds like they tried here.
They probably forgot to Storyboard the damn thing....
Oh also there is like 30 minutes of credit and post credit scenes!! Loved it all.
Where’s the review video?
Y'alls description is making me want to see it LMAO
In my opinion this movie is like DMC the game that came prior to the game everyone really wanted which was Devil May Cry 5. Hopefully Liongate will follow Capcom’s route of giving us what we really want and that’s HellBoy 3 with Ron Pearlman instead of a sequel to this.
Getting Parademon vibes from that bug-like creature on the top-left
... no more Whiskey for you!!!
Oj been back to the gym ic.
Is it bad that the way you guys are laughing and describing parts of this movie makes me want to go see it anyway? Lol it sounds so outrageous I kinda want to see it
Is it sad I was hoping there would be an after video scene where AJ would just yell "Fuck You Lionsgate, Stick that in your post credits scene!"