I agree with what you are saying, if anyone is thinking of starting to grow indoors an on a budget, at least 50% of your budget should go to the purchase of your light, there are so many good budget lights out there, light MARSHYDRO, SPIDERFARMER, VIPERSPECTRA,
@@scottbowron784 I agree, lighting has been far more than 50% of initial cost but it is close now. Tents, fans and filters have been creeping up in price while lights are becoming more affordable and efficient.
If you don’t mind the older diodes a lot of the chinnee lights are just fine. Your just missing out on like 20-30% output power. And like no safety LOL. I have some and they are still kicking after more than 8 months. But you do get what you pay for folks! Just don’t feel bad if you can’t afford lights that cost a fucking arm and leg
If you recommend chinese light's, you could mention some european brand's too... We have some amazing manufactur's here... For example: Photontek is the sister company of lumatek wich is european... Both brand's design is one of the best on the market imo...
MIGROW Aray modular lighting systems rock ... come with external controllers and can be configured into multiple lights, and adjusted to multiple heights within one tent.
@@eagle1492 I have 2 sets of MIGRO ARAY 8 lights, each running in a 4x4 tent .. for about a year now.. yields went way up. It's a high quality product, worth the money.
The growers choice roi-e720 made the list again!!! That is my favorite light that ive used. I really want the roi-e900! Ive had 20 some leds now. from the warranty to the end results are just better are just better with GC. Warranty isnt a 5 year but we only pay for 1 year then u pay everything besides parts they actually cover u those 5 years. Im a proud growers choice user and led grow light depot customer. I just got the master controller and uv from u gugs couple weeks ago excited to see the difference.
I know you mentioned ebay, you couldn't be more correct. However, I did purchase two Spiderfarmer SF-4000 for $500 and both work great in two 3x3 tents at 25% to 50% output.
Going to buy the mammoth 8 bar mint series. Looks awesome for the price, efficiency, and ppfd. But I also really like the gavita 2400 and the scorpion diablo.
Mammoths lights are powerful but my ballast caught fire and almost burned down the building. They did refund me though. I would never recommend it to anyone. Chinese junk ballast
Just received my first light I ordered from u guys. I got the spider farmer g4500 for my 2x4.. absolutely love it!!!!! 💯 great price also. Great job guys
If I were u get an apelila 8000 just give it a try u can never go wrong with an extra plus it’s an unbelievably great light and very cheap 60$ sometimes on eBay and it outperforms my spider farm 4x4 and mars hydro same size amount and has a bloom boost switch that really puts down the flower density it has to be this brand a lot of lights have this style but they used awesome diodes in this brand I stopped using my 500$ spider farm and went back to one of these apes for the 3x3 I guarantee you’ll be glad u got one if not I’ll buy it for what u paid I’m that confident 👍
All these review videos are similar, in that they just keep promoting the same stuff. I notice that no one is covering the LED grow bulbs that I keep seeing at very low prices - the ones that have 200 to 300 LEDs mounted on the surface of an E27 bulb and come in either full spectrum or red & blue options.
Hey bud thanks for the video. It made me think about - the fact that all par charts I can find are all done in a certain size space, depending on the light size of course. My question is what's the best bang for your buck with NO walls or tent? I grow in an open space - more, or less. (basement with panda film). Thanks for all you guys do for the community. Love that mint bar by mammoth led. Just out of my range for sure!!!
Just build a panda film curtain that is attached to your light with the footprint you want. Cut it so that it's the same length as your ideal light distance. So if your ideal height is 16'', make it 16" long below the light. When the tops hit the bottom, raise the light. You might need to add some weight or staple cardboard to panda film to stiffen the bottom edge to prevent blowing around, and to keep the shape. Leaving the plants open allows for fans to circulate air below the canopy.
Just got in the PhotonTek X1000W Pro. Its so damn powerful! Had the Mars Hydro brand for 3 years, 2 800W lights, than a 1000W light... both sets burnt up so we switched to PhotonTek👌🏻 Got it from Led Grow Light Depot🔥
Can you explain why my $160 highbay whitelight commercial warehouse LED grows a better plant than the fancy growlights with multiple spectrums and wavelengths that you have reviewed on this video?
Commercial Growers only use LEDs for rooting Clones and a few days vegging when the plants are small. After that they use only High Pressure Sodium for flowering / fruiting plants.
MIGRO New 4×4 bar light. I just want to remind everyone that your plants don't know or actually care, what make the equipment used to grow them. To many people get caught up in all the hype
I love my PhotonTek 1000W CO2 Pro , I have ZERO complaints about it. I am so glad that I made the switch over from.HPS/MH . Shop around I might add as well ! I only.paid 1500 for mine.
The ProGrow 1800 is the deal honestly and at $420 gets you get a very capable system. The problem is that thing is almost impossible to find. I found one place that looked like they had it but then it said not in stock. Another place only sells to businesses and you have to buy a minimum of 12 lights. I found at Costco a set of 4 recessed LED lights that are 6,500k on the high setting and 75 watts for $20. I'm going to get 2 or 3 sets and mount them close together on a piece of plywood and see how that does. I think it will perform fine for a small crop if you keep them close to the plants.
These lights are all way too much money both in terms of cost and electricity. I use a Happy Lead Procyon Pro. It’s made in the usa, only uses 68 watts. I had a spider farmer sf2000 and the happy leaf produces twice the results and plants that look way healthier. I have 4 tomato plants growing under it now and they are doing phenomenal. I bought my lights for $170.
Someone who just want to get rid of his 1000 watts HPS only needs 500 Watts in LED, because it is twice as effichent as HPS. Most people will not need more than 200 watts of LED.
I’m looking for small grow light for a small collection of house plants on a multi shelf stand, what would you recommend. Or are you just into the big fancy lights?
Thanks for the great advice on a topic I know makes me feel stupid when trying to understand all the charts and numbers that get posted about the various lights. Dirty secret I actually bought most of my current DWC set up from both the Chinese and US mega online retailers. So please understand that I’m a lazy consumer. Anyway I think that it’s a really good thing that cheaper brands are able to make lights with the same or very similar components for a budget price point. I’m running a 4x4 tent with 4x 150w draw power Viparspectra xs 1500 with the Samsung mean well combo and I couldn’t be happier
I may build a greenhouse built into the side of house, would put a few 4 ft lights along one side, may use a grow tent for seed start, recommend some lights ? i like KIND 420 , but using Viparspectra right now, happy with them as well, mostly for vegtables possible " flower " 4x are legal here
I have a huge problem with all of these bar lights. I have tried numerous brands. And run into the same problem with all of them. And that is, because I grow in the SOG. Any plant that doesn't have diodes directly over it only grows half as big as the plants with diides directly over them. So when I try and use these bar lights. Every plant in-between the bars only grow half as big. There's something wrong with this picture, these manufacturers are showing us.
The lights should be raised high enough as to provide uniform lighting over the canopy. If you are raising the light high and do not have enough light, you will need to go with a more intense fixture. Generally 1700 PPF (light output) and up for a 4x4 area.
Not so. Your Yield and experiments are commensurate with your abilities to learn. Cheap LED's, yes, I've used them. You'll need to bring them down to 12 inches or less to achieve nice golf balls. But I've had great successes with mammoth Mint 680./W 6 gal. Auto pots/W air canopy. Tennis - golf ball size buds at 18"-24" above canopy. 42-50" plants /W 8-10 oz. each. I've been growing for over 43 years. Keep experimenting, researching and trying new technologies.
@@GregoryCarter-f8f Thanks for your advice. I've been enjoying and growing cannabis since 1971. So I've tried ever experiment, and more. It doesn't matter how high the lights are. The problem is very simple. Like I stated I grow in the SOG. But I also grow with aeroponics. I built my own aero systems. Which are 2, 23 site grow chambers with 1 reservoir. One system fits in a 3'x3'. Area. So as you can see my plants are very close together. A little less than 2" apart. So I can really see how a light performs on individual plants. As for cheap I don't do anything cheap. I tried $500.00 to $1800.00 lights. Like I stated before the problem was easy to solve. No diodes over a plant. The growth of the plant suffers dramatically. Even if there are diodes a eighth of a inch away from the plant. The growth will suffer. Not as dramatically as a bar light, when there is 6" between the bars. So I built my own lights. So there is at least 2 diodes directly over every plant. Solved the problem. I 4 aero systems that I run on a 2 week rotation. I clone everything. I start 46 clones, in 5 days they start getting roots. In 10 days they all have roots. I keep them in the aero cloners for 17 days to establish a good root system. Then I just transfer them to one of the aero systems. Straight into 12/12. No veg. Actually I use the first 2 week stretch in 12/12 as my veg time. The clones are like 6" when I put them to 12/12. And within 2 weeks they are 2 and a half to 3 and half feet tall. At harvest I'm getting anywhere from 29 to 40 Gs Per plant. The plants are like a stem with a huge bud on it. It looks cool. So do the math and you will see I'm pulling pretty good for a 9 s/ft area. I have all 4 aero systems in 12/12 365 days a year. So thats 192 plants in flower all the time. I've been growing this way for about 20 years now. And its the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to grow. It's a lot of work. Especially all that trimming. But I've got some good stains to where the flower to leaf ratio on the buds are very Good. But I still hate all that trimming. Anyway since I've been growing this way for so long. My experimental days are over. Indoors. I still play around though. A few years ago I build a green house. So I play around in there. Take care.
these lights are all far too expensive. i just need a light for a couple months while i save up for a root barrier that cost $600 not to mention the names of these lights are hilariously bad. im planting a bamboo and want to get the area ready so it doesn't overtake the yard. i have to keep it in a $20 2 gal planter for a bit. if i buy one of these lights it'll be winter before i can afford the stuff i actually need.
Better put it on a saucer. If those roots touch the ground in anyway, they will be off an running. You won't even know until it's to late. Once it roots into the soil/ground even diesel fuel won't get rid of them. Then you will a backyard punji pit ..
Best bang for the buck for a 4x4, first generation Mars FCE-4800 with the Moso driver, got mine for $356 over a year ago, plenty of wall to wall ppfd for that space, don't need a 6500, that's a 5x5 LED.
For a 4x4 tent or 5x5, which vicosun led would someone suggest. There's the huge panel one, the smart lights with cooking fans & heatsinks us programmable, or the bar system that's just like the 1st one on the video... also the bar lights are foldable. I DESPERATELY NEED SOME HELP DECIDING. I WAS GONNA BUY AN ENTIRE TENT KIT AND THESE ARE Samsung Diodes. Even the intake/outtake fan is part of the programmable smart system. So on the tent is a control panel or use your app on phone.
That's all they have is decent price point. All their lights die off at the edges. For that price point I'd buy Chinese lmao. They used to be good when boxy Chinese style lights where starting now its a shame cuz they where good an air now left behind..
I’m new to this but I think I found a great deal. I got a Hyphotonflux hpf4000 led for 300$ direct from their ws. I’m going to buy another light after summer so I’ll still be checking for deals.
How can we say best if we don't have real world test? We need yield and quality test
I have bout ALL of my lights off Amazon! Get what you pay for!!!!
We need a review on the E900
an old saying in my circles - "Buy once, Cry once" - buy the best you can afford and you will only complain about it at purchase time.
I agree with what you are saying, if anyone is thinking of starting to grow indoors an on a budget, at least 50% of your budget should go to the purchase of your light, there are so many good budget lights out there, light MARSHYDRO, SPIDERFARMER, VIPERSPECTRA,
@@scottbowron784 I agree, lighting has been far more than 50% of initial cost but it is close now. Tents, fans and filters have been creeping up in price while lights are becoming more affordable and efficient.
Photontek. Nuff said
If you don’t mind the older diodes a lot of the chinnee lights are just fine. Your just missing out on like 20-30% output power. And like no safety LOL. I have some and they are still kicking after more than 8 months. But you do get what you pay for folks! Just don’t feel bad if you can’t afford lights that cost a fucking arm and leg
Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten
If you recommend chinese light's, you could mention some european brand's too...
We have some amazing manufactur's here...
For example: Photontek is the sister company of lumatek wich is european... Both brand's design is one of the best on the market imo...
MIGROW Aray modular lighting systems rock ... come with external controllers and can be configured into multiple lights, and adjusted to multiple heights within one tent.
Still chineze crap i seen a video says he just buys chit from china like most
Looking to buy MIGRO ARAY 12 next, well this year for a 5x5...specs and price are great! Happy New Year EVERYONE!
@@eagle1492 I have 2 sets of MIGRO ARAY 8 lights, each running in a 4x4 tent .. for about a year now.. yields went way up. It's a high quality product, worth the money.
The growers choice roi-e720 made the list again!!! That is my favorite light that ive used. I really want the roi-e900! Ive had 20 some leds now. from the warranty to the end results are just better are just better with GC. Warranty isnt a 5 year but we only pay for 1 year then u pay everything besides parts they actually cover u those 5 years. Im a proud growers choice user and led grow light depot customer. I just got the master controller and uv from u gugs couple weeks ago excited to see the difference.
I know you mentioned ebay, you couldn't be more correct. However, I did purchase two Spiderfarmer SF-4000 for $500 and both work great in two 3x3 tents at 25% to 50% output.
Hey bro I’m looking into getting a spider farmer sf-4000 for a 4x4 grow tent, have you had any issues with them and do you still recommend
Good video. Looking to upgrade my lights to the HLG Diablo X.
Going to buy the mammoth 8 bar mint series. Looks awesome for the price, efficiency, and ppfd. But I also really like the gavita 2400 and the scorpion diablo.
Definitely a great choice. I've been using the 8 bar mint white for my last grow and have the biggest and best looking plants I've ever had.
I just ordered the 8 bar 2 days ago. Cant wait🎉
@@brasco8721 you got pics on the gram. Just ordered 8 bar 2 days ago, coming from kind led x2 square. Hope its better
@brasco8721 thinking about the mammoth 8 bar, you're really liking it ?
Mammoths lights are powerful but my ballast caught fire and almost burned down the building. They did refund me though. I would never recommend it to anyone. Chinese junk ballast
What are your thoughts on the Migrow Aray?
Just received my first light I ordered from u guys. I got the spider farmer g4500 for my 2x4.. absolutely love it!!!!! 💯 great price also. Great job guys
If I were u get an apelila 8000 just give it a try u can never go wrong with an extra plus it’s an unbelievably great light and very cheap 60$ sometimes on eBay and it outperforms my spider farm 4x4 and mars hydro same size amount and has a bloom boost switch that really puts down the flower density it has to be this brand a lot of lights have this style but they used awesome diodes in this brand I stopped using my 500$ spider farm and went back to one of these apes for the 3x3 I guarantee you’ll be glad u got one if not I’ll buy it for what u paid I’m that confident 👍
I would love to see a video on lights for a smaller grow space, say 2x2 that are 200 dollars or less.
All these review videos are similar, in that they just keep promoting the same stuff. I notice that no one is covering the LED grow bulbs that I keep seeing at very low prices - the ones that have 200 to 300 LEDs mounted on the surface of an E27 bulb and come in either full spectrum or red & blue options.
I got the medic grow spectrum x from you guys and I love it.
you might wanna re-do this & add the new AC Infinity Ionframes 😎
Kaurez rd4000 look u see
Hey bud thanks for the video. It made me think about - the fact that all par charts I can find are all done in a certain size space, depending on the light size of course.
My question is what's the best bang for your buck with NO walls or tent? I grow in an open space - more, or less. (basement with panda film).
Thanks for all you guys do for the community. Love that mint bar by mammoth led. Just out of my range for sure!!!
Just build a panda film curtain that is attached to your light with the footprint you want. Cut it so that it's the same length as your ideal light distance. So if your ideal height is 16'', make it 16" long below the light. When the tops hit the bottom, raise the light. You might need to add some weight or staple cardboard to panda film to stiffen the bottom edge to prevent blowing around, and to keep the shape. Leaving the plants open allows for fans to circulate air below the canopy.
Just got in the PhotonTek X1000W Pro. Its so damn powerful! Had the Mars Hydro brand for 3 years, 2 800W lights, than a 1000W light... both sets burnt up so we switched to PhotonTek👌🏻 Got it from Led Grow Light Depot🔥
I’m using a 2x4 tent right now with 2 mars hydro ts1000’s with 50% light at 24 inches and the plants love it. They’re 2 weeks into veg in coco
Can you explain why my $160 highbay whitelight commercial warehouse LED grows a better plant than the fancy growlights with multiple spectrums and wavelengths that you have reviewed on this video?
I don't feel like the ProGrow 1800 is not an upgrade from the ProGrow 850! 🤔
It's a small upgrade in terms of light output. It's a big upgrade in termsn of price :)
Was123456
Great info, looking to replace my old optic led setup
Commercial Growers only use LEDs for rooting Clones and a few days vegging when the plants are small. After that they use only High Pressure Sodium for flowering / fruiting plants.
Yeah, and 1960 nobody needed a computer, because computers were as big as a house and very complicated to use. Times are changing.
I was looking for a couple lights to go in a little bedroom. Get rid of my high pressure sodium. Thanks a lot
How u can say best LED grow lights and there is no Sanlight Evo4 Series ?
i got a question... my LED light has a master/slave switch, when i press it then the light gets stronger... why? and what is the use for this?
How does the Solar Storm 880 LED stack up against these new lights today?
MIGRO New 4×4 bar light. I just want to remind everyone that your plants don't know or actually care, what make the equipment used to grow them. To many people get caught up in all the hype
but they care about spectrum.
I love my PhotonTek 1000W CO2 Pro , I have ZERO complaints about it.
I am so glad that I made the switch over from.HPS/MH .
Shop around I might add as well !
I only.paid 1500 for mine.
Maxibright DAYLIGHT LED 1030W PRO.
Got to say everybody personal opinion gets fkn confusing
Please review RDJ Bouns Growline 720w
Black dog Led. Phytomax 3. Still have the phyto max 2. Both 815 watt. Very nice light
Right...
Growlights build like an army tank...😮
oh hell na
@@timsmyth7942 why do you say. We have great success w these lights?
Have you done any research on Grandmaster LEDS Tarantula Borg rack? 1500 watts and customizable spectrums etc
Lol
@@sacballa_kills_em_wit_facts What's funny?
Grandmaster is 🗑
And and spider farmer isn't Chinese LOL the G Series diodes are made in the USA LOL...
So better gavita 2400 than thinkgrow h plus?
This is my question also.
Great video, thanks
So the pro grow actually hooking you up not taking your lunch money
Is this like a cursed temu version of the migro Channel
I'll take my spider farmer SE7000
I always look forward to these annual videos.
I use the Volt VL1 in a 2x4 Gorilla tent and have had awesome yields. $350
Rayon led also solid.
The ProGrow 1800 is the deal honestly and at $420 gets you get a very capable system. The problem is that thing is almost impossible to find. I found one place that looked like they had it but then it said not in stock. Another place only sells to businesses and you have to buy a minimum of 12 lights.
I found at Costco a set of 4 recessed LED lights that are 6,500k on the high setting and 75 watts for $20. I'm going to get 2 or 3 sets and mount them close together on a piece of plywood and see how that does. I think it will perform fine for a small crop if you keep them close to the plants.
Nice write up. I have the Mammoth 6 bar and the Chilled Growcraft X6. Both great lights!
These lights are all way too much money both in terms of cost and electricity. I use a Happy Lead Procyon Pro. It’s made in the usa, only uses 68 watts. I had a spider farmer sf2000 and the happy leaf produces twice the results and plants that look way healthier. I have 4 tomato plants growing under it now and they are doing phenomenal. I bought my lights for $170.
Invested in two Spider Farmer SF 4000’s. Custom 6x9 grow room/space.
That's what I have, 2 sf4000's. In a 9'x15' grow shed.
How do you control your environment?
Walmart has HyperTough 4ft shop lights 5500lm x 5000K for $19.98
!
Someone who just want to get rid of his 1000 watts HPS only needs 500 Watts in LED, because it is twice as effichent as HPS. Most people will not need more than 200 watts of LED.
Great vid thanks for doing this! If price was not a factor & you were a new grower in a 4x4 tent which one of these lights would you go with?
Photontek.
@@TexasTerpz27why? What makes it better?
If u don't test PAR yourself it have no value bro... All compagnies are lying on efficiency... MIGRO do the correct job ! Can Do better dude!
Q what are these retrofit LEDs that run of a 600W digital HPS/MH ballasts and run up to a 720w LED??????
I have a 1.2 SQ meter space, what size of light would you recommend. I am thinking of changing over to this new stuff. David
Migrow rocks
I’m looking for small grow light for a small collection of house plants on a multi shelf stand, what would you recommend. Or are you just into the big fancy lights?
Very informative video! I had doubts about some of these brands and appreciate having those doubts relieved!
How?
The only complaint I have about My Pro grow 1800 is that I didn't buy 2 of them before they went out of stock forever.
No Synce raging kush 2 ? Last year was best spectrum/tunable. Did something change?
Thanks for the great advice on a topic I know makes me feel stupid when trying to understand all the charts and numbers that get posted about the various lights. Dirty secret I actually bought most of my current DWC set up from both the Chinese and US mega online retailers. So please understand that I’m a lazy consumer.
Anyway I think that it’s a really good thing that cheaper brands are able to make lights with the same or very similar components for a budget price point. I’m running a 4x4 tent with 4x 150w draw power Viparspectra xs 1500 with the Samsung mean well combo and I couldn’t be happier
I forget the name of my mars hydro reflector I got it in 2017 it’s green and thick but still working like a champ lol
For me personally this year,
Actually today lol,
Tarantula Long Leg should be touching down.
GML is gonna takeover .
Not a fan of that guy, but customers seem to like his lights :)
Agreed
@@timpage5021 lol
Lol
I'm an affiliate of yours mate, been 3-4 years now ... Loving the reviews thxs
Anyone else hear remember the good old days and all those lights we used in the 80s and 90s haha
Thank you for this video ! I’m upgrading.
This is a little out of my league. I’m looking for a light for a single, tall majesty fern lol.
All your lights are from a Ali baba supply ,
what are you talking about 😂
Prabobly they are all made in Risen factory where you can order from same specs for less
You wrongly showed pics of the FC-E6500, which only have 6 bars. Great video.
Why you never talk about nextlight in your video they are one of the first good ones out there
I may build a greenhouse built into the side of house, would put a few 4 ft lights along one side, may use a grow tent for seed start, recommend some lights ? i like KIND 420 , but using Viparspectra right now, happy with them as well, mostly for vegtables possible " flower " 4x are legal here
Hlg makes the best lights but them have a Hefty price tag.
Have you reviewed kind led? Just curious
I have a huge problem with all of these bar lights.
I have tried numerous brands. And run into the same problem with all of them.
And that is, because I grow in the SOG. Any plant that doesn't have diodes directly over it only grows half as big as the plants with diides directly over them.
So when I try and use these bar lights. Every plant in-between the bars only grow half as big.
There's something wrong with this picture, these manufacturers are showing us.
The lights should be raised high enough as to provide uniform lighting over the canopy. If you are raising the light high and do not have enough light, you will need to go with a more intense fixture. Generally 1700 PPF (light output) and up for a 4x4 area.
Not so. Your Yield and experiments are commensurate with your abilities to learn. Cheap LED's, yes, I've used them. You'll need to bring them down to 12 inches or less to achieve nice golf balls. But I've had great successes with mammoth Mint 680./W 6 gal. Auto pots/W air canopy. Tennis - golf ball size buds at 18"-24" above canopy. 42-50" plants /W 8-10 oz. each. I've been growing for over 43 years. Keep experimenting, researching and trying new technologies.
@@GregoryCarter-f8f
Thanks for your advice.
I've been enjoying and growing cannabis since 1971.
So I've tried ever experiment, and more.
It doesn't matter how high the lights are.
The problem is very simple.
Like I stated I grow in the SOG. But I also grow with aeroponics. I built my own aero systems. Which are 2, 23 site grow chambers with 1 reservoir. One system fits in a 3'x3'. Area.
So as you can see my plants are very close together. A little less than 2" apart.
So I can really see how a light performs on individual plants.
As for cheap I don't do anything cheap.
I tried $500.00 to $1800.00 lights.
Like I stated before the problem was easy to solve.
No diodes over a plant.
The growth of the plant suffers dramatically.
Even if there are diodes a eighth of a inch away from the plant. The growth will suffer. Not as dramatically as a bar light, when there is 6" between the bars.
So I built my own lights.
So there is at least 2 diodes directly over every plant. Solved the problem.
I 4 aero systems that I run on a 2 week rotation.
I clone everything. I start 46 clones, in 5 days they start getting roots. In 10 days they all have roots.
I keep them in the aero cloners for 17 days to establish a good root system. Then I just transfer them to one of the aero systems.
Straight into 12/12. No veg.
Actually I use the first 2 week stretch in 12/12 as my veg time.
The clones are like 6" when I put them to 12/12.
And within 2 weeks they are 2 and a half to 3 and half feet tall.
At harvest I'm getting anywhere from 29 to 40 Gs
Per plant. The plants are like a stem with a huge bud on it. It looks cool.
So do the math and you will see I'm pulling pretty good for a 9 s/ft area.
I have all 4 aero systems in 12/12 365 days a year.
So thats 192 plants in flower all the time.
I've been growing this way for about 20 years now.
And its the cheapest, easiest and fastest way to grow.
It's a lot of work. Especially all that trimming.
But I've got some good stains to where the flower to leaf ratio on the buds are very Good. But I still hate all that trimming.
Anyway since I've been growing this way for so long. My experimental days are over. Indoors.
I still play around though.
A few years ago I build a green house. So I play around in there.
Take care.
I just ordered the Spider Farmer G4500
The gavita 2400 dose it have uv light built in it ?
Blackbird!!
Thanks for the upload....looking to upgrade this year and this is very helpful. ✌️😎
kingbrite p55 definitely deserves a mention
Any thoughts on California Light Works Mega Drive systems for a Commercial Grow? Thx
Over priced 😊
these lights are all far too expensive. i just need a light for a couple months while i save up for a root barrier that cost $600
not to mention the names of these lights are hilariously bad.
im planting a bamboo and want to get the area ready so it doesn't overtake the yard. i have to keep it in a $20 2 gal planter for a bit.
if i buy one of these lights it'll be winter before i can afford the stuff i actually need.
Better put it on a saucer. If those roots touch the ground in anyway, they will be off an running. You won't even know until it's to late. Once it roots into the soil/ground even diesel fuel won't get rid of them. Then you will a backyard punji pit
..
What about this light or this brand?
Thanks for these lists. Always appreciate your work!
What about that other light..
Lumatek Attis 300w pro 😊
Best bang for the buck for a 4x4, first generation Mars FCE-4800 with the Moso driver, got mine for $356 over a year ago, plenty of wall to wall ppfd for that space, don't need a 6500, that's a 5x5 LED.
No grandmasterlevels
Mars Hydro SP3000 🤘
Great info!
For a 4x4 tent or 5x5, which vicosun led would someone suggest. There's the huge panel one, the smart lights with cooking fans & heatsinks us programmable, or the bar system that's just like the 1st one on the video... also the bar lights are foldable.
I DESPERATELY NEED SOME HELP DECIDING. I WAS GONNA BUY AN ENTIRE TENT KIT AND THESE ARE Samsung Diodes. Even the intake/outtake fan is part of the programmable smart system. So on the tent is a control panel or use your app on phone.
Kaurez 4000
AC Infinity tent and components and a Viparspectra bar light…you won’t be sorry… 🪴🍃
Diablo rocks
非常好的植物灯，祝你生意兴隆
Your video is very helpful
Why doesn't Apache Tech get any love ? The 800ATV has a fair cost and nice spread ? Just curious
Yes. That’s a great one too!
That's all they have is decent price point. All their lights die off at the edges. For that price point I'd buy Chinese lmao. They used to be good when boxy Chinese style lights where starting now its a shame cuz they where good an air now left behind..
Thank you.
Awesome
There's no replacement for displacement. 1000 HPS all day long.
Hi 😀Where are the Sanlight's?
In a 10 -10-7 foot room what would you go with
I'd say 8 ft by 4ft 1.2 m by 2.4m or thereabouts
@@jamesdixon397210ft -10ft room 7ft tall what light you suggest
I’m new to this but I think I found a great deal. I got a Hyphotonflux hpf4000 led for 300$ direct from their ws. I’m going to buy another light after summer so I’ll still be checking for deals.
Love my kind LEDs