Definitely a cardio workout. Everytime I land something 10 feet away or further I always find myself sprinting towards my craft. Usually just from excitement or horror haha
Don't take this the wrong way, but I love watching you panicking when you maiden your wings. It reminds me of the feeling I have when I'm maidening mine or am flying in a sketchy location! Glad you got it sorted the second time out, looks like a great little wing
Flying with a reversed camera was indeed a weird feeling and only added to the natural anxiety of the maiden :-) But thats part of the fun the adrenaline rush!
actually hilarious cause I bought a runcam2 second hand, didn't realize image was mirrored till I tried using it as my fpv cam and that ended with my sweepings flinch in a tree, thankfully, trees are much softer than ground!
It's the other way, with auto-trim you land, disarm then exit auto-trim (now watch me go and check my notes and find I'm wrong lol). At least yours flies better than mine that wallows around the sky like a walrus (exact same setup too other than the camera, although it balances on the cig, I'm thinking it needs a bit more nose weight).
Yeah I always seem to get Autotrim and Autotune confused. After reading my notes I know that Autotrim stays switched on until after landing then just disarm and Autotune is turned off before landing so when you land it does not mess up the settings and you need to save and reboot. Hoping to get the plane to fly much better in my next video part 3 tuning session. I don't think this plane will ever be that smooth in any degree of wind but will be great fun on those calm warm summer evenings.
Haha I had the ailerons reversed when I maiden my mini AR wing. I first thought it was motor torque... Btw, you have your transmitter antenna horizontal and your receiver's vertical. That would eventually cause poor range.
Great video sir.those metal gear servo you have in your video are those 12gram servo. I possible do you still have the link you purchased them from .thanks for the info 👍
Hi Brent yes I think they are 12g maybe less. I am travelling to Germany for a weeks flying with friends tonight but can send you the information you want in a week when I get back home.
Excellent videos. I have a Dart250 I’m building out as well and I love designing and printing the various mounts, etc for all the components. Thank you for making these videos and sharing your experience. I also have the DJI setup and I’m going to be using the Caddx Vista. I have a question though...how are you using the DJI goggles with the TBS and Tarsier setup to get an analog picture on your DJI googles??
Here you go, remember I have my launch idle throttle set at 1200 so the prop spins when you raise the throttle before you launch. I don't want anyone losing fingers! set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 300 set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1863 set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 180 set nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40 set nav_fw_launch_thr = 1900 set nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1200 set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 100 set nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 100 set nav_fw_launch_min_time = 2000 set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 6000 set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 6000 set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 30
Thanks for this video, I just could not figure out why I was crashing my aircraft after mounting fpv on it. I was checking setup but I have not realised that my ratel have mirrored image becouse i fliped it horisontaly not vertically.
how did you get the fc to mount to your 3d print and where can i find your air vent as its not on thinigverse great video i am doing mine same as yours
I drilled the feet on the mount and then put countersunk bolts from below up into the brass threaded stand offs on the F411WSE. I will pop the Naca duct up on Thingyverse later and send you the link.
What will happen, when it turn by side to your receiver on long distance? I think you can lose your control signal. Shouldn't both antennas be vertical?
@@rsilk2969 Hi Rob ok firstly this is how I set my Autolaunch and Loiter. 1. I have Autolaunch permanently enabled on the configuration page. 2. I have a RTH switch setup in modes. My launch procedure is select RTH with the switch, then arm the plane then launch it. It will then climb to the set altitude and immediately begin to loiter as per your RTH settings, so you can relax, get you goggles on etc then switch off RTH take control and fly. Here are my Autolaunch settings , remember I have my prop spinning if you dont want that just reduce the nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1200 down to 1050 or so. av_fw_launch_max_angle = 180 Allowed range: 5 - 180 nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40 Allowed range: 10 - 1000 nav_fw_launch_thr = 1650 Allowed range: 1000 - 2000 nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1200 Allowed range: 1000 - 2000 nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 150 Allowed range: 0 - 5000 nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 100 Allowed range: 0 - 1000 nav_fw_launch_min_time = 2000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_timeout = 6000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 6000 Allowed range: 0 - 60000 nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 30 Allowed range: 5 - 45 I have my loiter radius set at 59 metres nav_fw_loiter_radius = 5000 and my loiter height at 60 metres nav_rth_altitude = 6000 And here are my complete RTH settings should you need them. # get rth rth_energy_margin = 5 Allowed range: 0 - 100 nav_min_rth_distance = 500 Allowed range: 0 - 5000 nav_rth_climb_first = ON Allowed values: OFF, ON nav_rth_climb_ignore_emerg = ON Allowed values: OFF, ON nav_rth_tail_first = OFF Allowed values: OFF, ON nav_rth_allow_landing = NEVER Allowed values: NEVER, ALWAYS, FS_ONLY nav_rth_alt_mode = AT_LEAST_LINEAR_DESCENT Allowed values: CURRENT, EXTRA, FIXED, MAX, AT_LEAST, AT_LEAST_LINEAR_DESCENT nav_rth_abort_threshold = 50000 Allowed range: 0 - 65000 nav_rth_altitude = 6000 Allowed range: 0 - 65000 Happy Flying!
So it is not necessary to configure a switch and launch flight mode if the always autolaunch setting is on? How risky is that? Tx for the cli values. I have a weight of 250gm and am using a 2S Lipo. I am not sure of you have the same weight/battery, if not what changes if any would be needed? I did see that you are not using 100% throttle for takeoff.
Any chance of a video of your inav settings for this wing Edit. Thinking of building this wing the same as you so would like to know your inav settings
@@DroneZone_ Yeah I live by the coast in Lincolnshire near Grimsby and unfortunately the wind has got up and looks bad for the next few days so Part 3 will not likely be for a week or so. Like you I am so keen to start tuning my 250G bt its pointless in windy conditions tbh.
One decent nose dive and the battery is going through the tarsier. Still not 100% happy with my zohd 250g. Too much wobble on the roll axis and too sensitive on pitch but bizarrely not enough authority to do a tight loop. Honestly my $5 dollar depron sub 250 wing ( flite test dart) fly's far better. But wow is the ZOHD dart 250 efficient.
Good tip, although the anti slip surface and strap works well I will add a small piece of foam in front of the lipo in case I get a hard impact. I have not had any decent weather to go and do a tuning session yet to see how well this thing really flies. From the maiden I can see it does not like any degree of wind very much, but with the HQ Prop 4.3x3 and 4S its a zippy little thing. Not built mine for long range or really efficiency just for a bit of proximity flying fun.
Definitely a cardio workout. Everytime I land something 10 feet away or further I always find myself sprinting towards my craft. Usually just from excitement or horror haha
lol I dont run anymore since tripping over in long grass and falling on my radio and breaking the throttle stick 😀
Don't take this the wrong way, but I love watching you panicking when you maiden your wings. It reminds me of the feeling I have when I'm maidening mine or am flying in a sketchy location! Glad you got it sorted the second time out, looks like a great little wing
Flying with a reversed camera was indeed a weird feeling and only added to the natural anxiety of the maiden :-) But thats part of the fun the adrenaline rush!
actually hilarious cause I bought a runcam2 second hand, didn't realize image was mirrored till I tried using it as my fpv cam and that ended with my sweepings flinch in a tree, thankfully, trees are much softer than ground!
super clean build! thats what i like
Being OCD has some advantages in this hobby :-)
It's the other way, with auto-trim you land, disarm then exit auto-trim (now watch me go and check my notes and find I'm wrong lol). At least yours flies better than mine that wallows around the sky like a walrus (exact same setup too other than the camera, although it balances on the cig, I'm thinking it needs a bit more nose weight).
Yeah I always seem to get Autotrim and Autotune confused. After reading my notes I know that Autotrim stays switched on until after landing then just disarm and Autotune is turned off before landing so when you land it does not mess up the settings and you need to save and reboot.
Hoping to get the plane to fly much better in my next video part 3 tuning session. I don't think this plane will ever be that smooth in any degree of wind but will be great fun on those calm warm summer evenings.
Haha I had the ailerons reversed when I maiden my mini AR wing. I first thought it was motor torque...
Btw, you have your transmitter antenna horizontal and your receiver's vertical. That would eventually cause poor range.
Some carbon spars along the fuselage would be a good idea, with all that weight up front you could lose the front end in a crash
Thats a good idea I have done that on my Dart XL and it works well.
Great mods!
Can you share where to buy the heat sink and how you mount it to the Caddx?
Thank you.
Great video sir.those metal gear servo you have in your video are those 12gram servo. I possible do you still have the link you purchased them from .thanks for the info 👍
Hi Brent yes I think they are 12g maybe less. I am travelling to Germany for a weeks flying with friends tonight but can send you the information you want in a week when I get back home.
Excellent videos. I have a Dart250 I’m building out as well and I love designing and printing the various mounts, etc for all the components. Thank you for making these videos and sharing your experience. I also have the DJI setup and I’m going to be using the Caddx Vista. I have a question though...how are you using the DJI goggles with the TBS and Tarsier setup to get an analog picture on your DJI googles??
fantastic video many thanks for sharing! can you share your autolaunch settings? they seems perfect!
Here you go, remember I have my launch idle throttle set at 1200 so the prop spins when you raise the throttle before you launch. I don't want anyone losing fingers!
set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 300
set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1863
set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 180
set nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40
set nav_fw_launch_thr = 1900
set nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1200
set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 100
set nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 100
set nav_fw_launch_min_time = 2000
set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 6000
set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 6000
set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 30
@@bluefish3607 awesome many thanks for sharing, much appreciated! 😁👍
You got the 3d file for the vent you used and just your luck we get great flying weather and we're all in lockdown
Thanks for this video, I just could not figure out why I was crashing my aircraft after mounting fpv on it. I was checking setup but I have not realised that my ratel have mirrored image becouse i fliped it horisontaly not vertically.
I did the same very confusing, I thought I was going crazy 😂
Nice build, but your NACA duct is very odd. It's on the wrong side and facing the wrong way.
That mount for the F411-WSE looke very nice. Would you mind sharing the stl files for that?
www.thingiverse.com/bluefishuk/designs
Great little wing!
Do you have the link to all 3d printed parts? I want to print them.
Thank you
You should find them all here www.thingiverse.com/BlueFishUK/designs
@@bluefish3607 Thank you! I am about to build mine and was going to ask for the STL files too. Awesome job!
how did you get the fc to mount to your 3d print and where can i find your air vent as its not on thinigverse
great video i am doing mine same as yours
I drilled the feet on the mount and then put countersunk bolts from below up into the brass threaded stand offs on the F411WSE. I will pop the Naca duct up on Thingyverse later and send you the link.
@@bluefish3607 thanks
@@lovedr1211 Here ya go Jason www.thingiverse.com/thing:4239851
What will happen, when it turn by side to your receiver on long distance? I think you can lose your control signal. Shouldn't both antennas be vertical?
Yes ideally they should both be vertical or horizontal but for close proximity flying like this its not a problem at all.
I am also fitting the F411-WSE. How did you set it up for auto-launch?
I can post my iNav launch settings if that will help?
Yes please.
Do you know how to combine auto-launch followed by loiter once it reaches say 50 metres?
@@rsilk2969 Hi Rob ok firstly this is how I set my Autolaunch and Loiter.
1. I have Autolaunch permanently enabled on the configuration page.
2. I have a RTH switch setup in modes.
My launch procedure is select RTH with the switch, then arm the plane then launch it.
It will then climb to the set altitude and immediately begin to loiter as per your RTH settings, so you can relax, get you goggles on etc then switch off RTH take control and fly.
Here are my Autolaunch settings , remember I have my prop spinning if you dont want that just reduce the nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1200 down to 1050 or so.
av_fw_launch_max_angle = 180
Allowed range: 5 - 180
nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40
Allowed range: 10 - 1000
nav_fw_launch_thr = 1650
Allowed range: 1000 - 2000
nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1200
Allowed range: 1000 - 2000
nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 150
Allowed range: 0 - 5000
nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 100
Allowed range: 0 - 1000
nav_fw_launch_min_time = 2000
Allowed range: 0 - 60000
nav_fw_launch_timeout = 6000
Allowed range: 0 - 60000
nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 6000
Allowed range: 0 - 60000
nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 30
Allowed range: 5 - 45
I have my loiter radius set at 59 metres nav_fw_loiter_radius = 5000
and my loiter height at 60 metres nav_rth_altitude = 6000
And here are my complete RTH settings should you need them.
# get rth
rth_energy_margin = 5
Allowed range: 0 - 100
nav_min_rth_distance = 500
Allowed range: 0 - 5000
nav_rth_climb_first = ON
Allowed values: OFF, ON
nav_rth_climb_ignore_emerg = ON
Allowed values: OFF, ON
nav_rth_tail_first = OFF
Allowed values: OFF, ON
nav_rth_allow_landing = NEVER
Allowed values: NEVER, ALWAYS, FS_ONLY
nav_rth_alt_mode = AT_LEAST_LINEAR_DESCENT
Allowed values: CURRENT, EXTRA, FIXED, MAX, AT_LEAST, AT_LEAST_LINEAR_DESCENT
nav_rth_abort_threshold = 50000
Allowed range: 0 - 65000
nav_rth_altitude = 6000
Allowed range: 0 - 65000
Happy Flying!
So it is not necessary to configure a switch and launch flight mode if the always autolaunch setting is on? How risky is that?
Tx for the cli values. I have a weight of 250gm and am using a 2S Lipo. I am not sure of you have the same weight/battery, if not what changes if any would be needed? I did see that you are not using 100% throttle for takeoff.
Robin Silk Personal choice I guess put it on a switch if you are more comfortable with that. I just wanted to save a switch personally.
Any chance of a video of your inav settings for this wing
Edit. Thinking of building this wing the same as you so would like to know your inav settings
Part 3 will cover the tuning and all iNav settings and hopefully will get that done as soon as we get a bit of decent weather.
@@bluefish3607 Thanks for replying so quick. Cant wait to watch and happy flying
@@bluefish3607 me too , keen for the 3rd part!
🆒 👍
Where can we get your stl files
Will there be a part 3 or has the weather delayed it
Hoping to get out today for the Part 3 tuning session, weather has been pretty shitty.
@@bluefish3607 yeah weather been shitty for me. I live by the coast and the wind has not let up for days. All I wonna do is maiden my dart 250.
@@DroneZone_ Yeah I live by the coast in Lincolnshire near Grimsby and unfortunately the wind has got up and looks bad for the next few days so Part 3 will not likely be for a week or so. Like you I am so keen to start tuning my 250G bt its pointless in windy conditions tbh.
Would you sell the Back carbon cover kit with the thumb screw?
Sorry I only had one cut and I kinda like it :-)
@@bluefish3607 no worries...great work, cleanest build I have seen...mine has wires all over the place...
How is this compared to the drift?
Completely different planes. The drift is a glider.
Can you use vista with 411wsr? If so how?
Hi Sorry for the late reply I have been away for a while. tbh I am not absolutely sure, I know the 411WSE has limited uarts. I use the F405 mainly
is it under 250g ? :D
Lol no 353g 😀
Cant find part 3. Is it not up yet ...
Unfortunately not had a break in the weather to do the tuning session, hopefully it will ease over the coming days.
You maiden flight with autolaunch, is that ok?
It works for me, its a great feature of iNav so why not use it.
So you didn't do manual launch flight first, just built it, autolaunch and chucked it in air?
Ah seen it on ya vid... Cheers ...
@@kool-k-kel Yup thats how I roll :-)
@@bluefish3607 cheers dude... Fatshark hdo2s or dji fpv...do u have issues with analog feed black screens , freezes ..?
what are the odds you be able to upload the 3D parts to Thingiverse
www.thingiverse.com/BlueFishUK/designs
One decent nose dive and the battery is going through the tarsier. Still not 100% happy with my zohd 250g. Too much wobble on the roll axis and too sensitive on pitch but bizarrely not enough authority to do a tight loop. Honestly my $5 dollar depron sub 250 wing ( flite test dart) fly's far better. But wow is the ZOHD dart 250 efficient.
Good tip, although the anti slip surface and strap works well I will add a small piece of foam in front of the lipo in case I get a hard impact. I have not had any decent weather to go and do a tuning session yet to see how well this thing really flies. From the maiden I can see it does not like any degree of wind very much, but with the HQ Prop 4.3x3 and 4S its a zippy little thing. Not built mine for long range or really efficiency just for a bit of proximity flying fun.
LOL I crashed a plane with it mirrored!
I must say I was very close, never again that was scary :-)