Again, anyone watching, painting vinyl VOIDS THE WARRANTY. Which is why they were trying to stick the painter with the bill. Their house was 12 years old; warranty is typically 20 years and up, some offer lifetime. The first paint job voided the warranty, vinyl expands and contracts much more than wood, a typical plank can expand over an inch, the paint not so much, so paint it once stuck for life repainting every couple years. If you paint it darker it absorbs more heat which will cause it to warp and allow moisture to get behind and cause that kind of buckling. And the more layers of paint on it the more heat it absorbs.
Thank you, that's exactly what happened to a house in my neighborhood. They painted it on days it was 100 degrees, it melted the siding. Looks horrible.
I would never paint vinyl siding. “the paint can absorb more heat from the sun, potentially causing the vinyl panels to warp or buckle due to the increased temperature, leading to an unattractive appearance and potential damage to the siding; therefore, it's generally not recommended to paint vinyl siding unless using a specially formulated paint designed for vinyl and choosing a lighter color to minimize heat absorption.”
Painting contractor here. It's unfortunate the plaintiffs couldn't get their story straight. You can paint vinyl but you're very limited to what colour's you can use. Dark colours will hold heat and eventually will warp the siding, which is exactly what happened. The contractor was negligent and ruined their siding.
I feel like it’s possible he told them that but that’s the colour they wanted..?? Although nothing was mentioned about that, I feel like that may have been the case here.
@@jules3048 He's supposed to be "the expert" though. I've had clients ask for similar colours, and it's my job to educate the client as to why you can't apply colours like that to vinyl
@ oh I completely agree. I just feel like they wouldn’t have wanted to hear it. What should one do then? Or what would u do? Walk away or do what they requested. Genuinely curious
Plaintiff with a thick English accent walks into JJ show wearing an American flag! Nice touch Margret Thatcher! 🤣 I bet she wears the Union flag when she goes back to the UK. 🤣
I'm not defending her, but I'm canadian and my accent likes to go on world tours... I've been asked if I'm Australian, French, Newfoundlander, Scottish, British and in one odd case, South African. O.o
If the old people hadn't lied about not doing a walkthrough, i think Judy woulda given them a little money back for the messy paint dripping down...but they couldn't get their stories straight😅
They had one of the worst stories I've ever heard. The plaintiffs could get nothing straight with their story. If you can't get the truth straight, then you better get your lie straight. lol
Plaintiffs are Dishonest & think wearing patriotic clothing makes them look good 😅 The vinyl siding is Not supposed to be painted. The warping of the siding is because of excess sun damage on that side of the hose over time.
@@MrsGator7 It’s a British thing, we just don’t wave our flag around very often. International football matches and royal events yes, but having a flagpole on your front lawn would be seen as very, very strange. The only 'normal' clothing we have with the union flag on it is novelty underwear.
After painting vinyl siding on a house, put the paint cause it to buckle 25 web pages Yes, painting vinyl siding with a paint color that is darker than the original siding color can cause it to buckle. Vinyl siding naturally expands and contracts with temperature changes, and darker colors absorb more heat, which can lead to warping or buckling of the siding material. This is because the heat absorbed by the darker paint can exceed the temperature the vinyl was designed to handle, leading to deformation. Therefore, it is generally recommended to use paints that are the same color or lighter than the original color of the vinyl siding to avoid such issues.
Americans are so prideful; they'll deny any wrongdoing even if there's video evidence. But now we have a British litigant who goes the self-deprecating route to try to endear JJ onto her side. Kind of redeeming in terms of character.
That surprised me. Why would they do that? They either have that kind of money lying around in the house or had to go to the bank to get the cash. Why not write a check? Especially with the SCIATICA going on.
The Plaintiff's are one of a kind, they both deserve each other. The woman seems to be the dominant partner in the relationship as her word is law. Life is too short to worry about house sidings, geez.
#1. They painted their ginyl siding twice in 12 years? The 1st paintjob was baking in the Florida sun for three years. Vinyl isn't as pourpse as wood or stucco so the. Paint was sitting on the surface of the vinyl. If that vinyl wasn't completely sanded prior to that 1st paintjob, then it was only a matter of time before it started to orang peel. To get an adequate result, that first paint job needrd to be stripped, then sanded, then painted. All of that work would cost a lot more than $2300. #2. It's curious that if they were enamoured with other houses in the area they would not simply go to one of those home oyand asked "Who painted your house? Unless of course if they were the weirdos in the neighborhood who the neighbors don't have s positive relationship with. #3. That paint buckling was due to painting lover the improperly prepped first paintjob.Any subsequent paintnobs will garner worrse results.
The point of vinyl siding is that it’s maintenance- free, other than washing it down once a year. If it’s lost its sheen and is deformed in places it needs to be replaced because it’s past the manufacturer’s expected life. But you don’t paint it. That’s just asking for trouble.
As Judge Judy said you should not paint Vinyl siding. If you paint it with a Darker color, it can absorb more heat than the siding can with stand and warp. If the siding is of lower quality or the paint is not compatible with the siding it can warp. I'll bet the folks also pressure washed their asphalt shingle roof too.
"I admit we were idiots" Given the levels of stupidity they exhibited and problems the husband had, wouldn't surprise me if the plantiffs are biologically related
Maybe I am missing something here, but in these 2 videos, all the comments by "professional painters" say dark paint caused the warping. My problem is all the warped and broken siding I see in the pictures is light-colored or white, The dark siding is OK. Explain? The broken siding (Not just warped) appears to be broken at butt joints, but vinyl is supposed to have specific overlap varying by product, approximately ¾ inch. Too much overlap causes buckling. No overlap causes ends to push against each other and pop outward like at 0:24. This siding was either improperly installed or is worn out from overheating and/or severe weather flexing it excessively.
Maybe it was buckled before he painted, and that could be why she wanted to paint, thinking it would hide the buckled siding. But I guess the painter would have mentioned that 🤔.
When will people learn? If you cook your story to make it look better for you, you will lose your case if the judge is half way decent at identifying inconsistencies. I have experience that some colors can cause vinyl siding to warp. Some colors absorb the heat from the sun, causing warping through heating. Painting contractors will tend to advise replacing the vinyl siding rather than painting it, but others will put the paint on and cross their fingers that it will be okay this time. Depending on the angle of the sun and how much shade there is, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Plus it usually takes a bit of time for the warping to happen, and by that time they have already been paid, and can do exactly what this defendant is doing. It would have been easy to pay an experienced painter for their time to attend court and tell this to the judge. But the plaintiff's thought it is cheaper to just cook their story, and hope the judge doesn't notice.
I don't think I've ever seen an older person get SO crabby and unkind as JJ had gotten at this point in her life as a TV court judge. I am a bit disappointed in her ugly demeanor.
They had him come back to fix and repaint, when did they ask him? Recall he was back in a week and due to health concern they never checked his work or was he back a year later so the siding weathered. Or could it be the siding was such that painting could cause it to overheat and warp?
I have chronic sciatica. I'm on 42 and my Dr said the best he can do for me is a cortisone injection and physical therapy. Didn't think you could have surgery? I'm going to bring it up at my next appointment lol.
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The plaintiff should have had an expert witness report on the reason for the vinyl siding buckling. No mention was made of the type of paint that was used. A light colured acyllic based paint should be OK, if they used an oil based paint on the side of the house that gets the most sun exposure there might be an issue. Heat absorption: Paints with heat-absorbing pigments can cause irreversible damage to vinyl siding, called "oil canning". The painter should have advsied the plantiff if their choice of paint was going to create an issue.
It could be that the plaintiffs are correct e.g. due to the dilution medium used by the painter…. The thing is that unfortunately painting is one of those professions with least amount of education and training, almost the easiest one to get into 🤷♀️
It was supposed to be painted they said they loved all the neighbors houses bc they painted theirs that was the look they were going for. They claim he put too much paint and it caused it to buckle but obviously couldn’t prove that.
Not true. They paid him to paint their vinyl siding. There are some indications in the responses that vinyl siding can be painted. It probably needed to be replaced vs painted 🤷🏽♀️
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"I admit we were idiots." It's the only honest thing she said during the whole case.
why arent we talking about their outfits? hahahahhahahahahah
I was coming here to point them
Out lol
I pleg alengent to the flag lol one nation under god with liberty justice for all lol 😂😂😂😂
Again, anyone watching, painting vinyl VOIDS THE WARRANTY. Which is why they were trying to stick the painter with the bill. Their house was 12 years old; warranty is typically 20 years and up, some offer lifetime. The first paint job voided the warranty, vinyl expands and contracts much more than wood, a typical plank can expand over an inch, the paint not so much, so paint it once stuck for life repainting every couple years. If you paint it darker it absorbs more heat which will cause it to warp and allow moisture to get behind and cause that kind of buckling. And the more layers of paint on it the more heat it absorbs.
Thank you, that's exactly what happened to a house in my neighborhood. They painted it on days it was 100 degrees, it melted the siding. Looks horrible.
Ah okay. Thanks for the info
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"Your honor?"
JJ: "WHAT" 😂 I always laugh when she says "what" like that
I would never paint vinyl siding. “the paint can absorb more heat from the sun, potentially causing the vinyl panels to warp or buckle due to the increased temperature, leading to an unattractive appearance and potential damage to the siding; therefore, it's generally not recommended to paint vinyl siding unless using a specially formulated paint designed for vinyl and choosing a lighter color to minimize heat absorption.”
Not true
@@keithbronson9777care to explain why its not true
@@keithbronson9777 It's 100% true
@@HonestTakeOnStupid I think we found the defendant 😅
@@Johnnyw1818Or a troll
The eye roll when she mentioned her husband's sciatica
😂😂😂😂
Painting contractor here. It's unfortunate the plaintiffs couldn't get their story straight. You can paint vinyl but you're very limited to what colour's you can use. Dark colours will hold heat and eventually will warp the siding, which is exactly what happened. The contractor was negligent and ruined their siding.
Would the number of layers contribute to the warming of the siding?
I feel like it’s possible he told them that but that’s the colour they wanted..?? Although nothing was mentioned about that, I feel like that may have been the case here.
@MsDungeness No. If they repainted with a lighter colour like what was there previously I guarantee this wouldn't have happened.
@@jules3048 He's supposed to be "the expert" though. I've had clients ask for similar colours, and it's my job to educate the client as to why you can't apply colours like that to vinyl
@ oh I completely agree. I just feel like they wouldn’t have wanted to hear it. What should one do then? Or what would u do? Walk away or do what they requested. Genuinely curious
When I got new siding, the contractor made it a point for us to look at his work and sign off on what they did before they left.
@@meganlewis2424 she definitely was lying. You can see in her face when she realized she made a mistake in her testimony.
You can tell by their outfits they are two looneys 😂
love the outfits, but they are liars
So true. Florida is the way it is these days because of entitled people like these.
Yep maga cultistd
Great outfits! What was wrong with their clothes?
They voted for the orange man I bet
At least they admit they’re idiots 😂
She did. Her husband is from Florida and probably never would.
Plaintiff with a thick English accent walks into JJ show wearing an American flag! Nice touch Margret Thatcher! 🤣 I bet she wears the Union flag when she goes back to the UK. 🤣
That red hair - I’ll bet she’s a feisty handful 😂
😂😂😂😂
I'm not defending her, but I'm canadian and my accent likes to go on world tours... I've been asked if I'm Australian, French, Newfoundlander, Scottish, British and in one odd case, South African. O.o
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“ … my accent goes on world tours … “
^^^ HILARIOUS! 😆😆😆^^^
If the old people hadn't lied about not doing a walkthrough, i think Judy woulda given them a little money back for the messy paint dripping down...but they couldn't get their stories straight😅
I don't get why they choose to lie about not looking at the house before they paid him
Because they should not/would not have paid him if it was buckling and unsatisfactory.
I believe the painter
I believe Santa Clause.
Same here. She doesn’t sound honest.
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It's called dark paint on plastic vinyl siding in the Florida heat.
Bingo! I work at sherwin Williams. You never put dark paint on siding
That woman would be awful to work for.
Imagine being married to her?
They had one of the worst stories I've ever heard. The plaintiffs could get nothing straight with their story. If you can't get the truth straight, then you better get your lie straight. lol
To quote an old UK phrase "these people can't even lie straight in bed!"
Plaintiffs are Dishonest & think wearing patriotic clothing makes them look good 😅
The vinyl siding is Not supposed to be painted. The warping of the siding is because of excess sun damage on that side of the hose over time.
They're not patriotic; they're pathetic.
“We were idiots.”
Lady, that much is evident; you’ve got flags on your clothes.
What does flags have to do with her idiocy
@@MrsGator7 It’s a British thing, we just don’t wave our flag around very often. International football matches and royal events yes, but having a flagpole on your front lawn would be seen as very, very strange.
The only 'normal' clothing we have with the union flag on it is novelty underwear.
Her inconsistent story telling raised a few red flags for sure! 🚩🚩
After painting vinyl siding on a house, put the paint cause it to buckle
25 web pages
Yes, painting vinyl siding with a paint color that is darker than the original siding color can cause it to buckle. Vinyl siding naturally expands and contracts with temperature changes, and darker colors absorb more heat, which can lead to warping or buckling of the siding material. This is because the heat absorbed by the darker paint can exceed the temperature the vinyl was designed to handle, leading to deformation. Therefore, it is generally recommended to use paints that are the same color or lighter than the original color of the vinyl siding to avoid such issues.
Good information. Looks like they used the same gray as before so it shouldn't have buckled from the paint job.
Get their lie straight 😂 the defendant has a correct calling on that
Americans are so prideful; they'll deny any wrongdoing even if there's video evidence. But now we have a British litigant who goes the self-deprecating route to try to endear JJ onto her side. Kind of redeeming in terms of character.
Wearing the American flag is so pretentious
The American flag accents were an interesting choice on the part of the plaintiffs.
It was 2018. They lived in Florida. 'Nuff said.
What's with the red white n blue lol.
It’s America they can wear whatever they want. It’s better than most people on this show.
I was wondering if they were on their way to a Fourth of July party.
They tried to make jj ,believe they are patriotic lol
@@LeviAaronx Very disrespectful to wear flag-related clothing. The flag is no longer respected by most Americans.
@@barbarak2836disrespectful to who
I'm surprised JJ wasn't more lenient with this elderly couple. They forget things, dementia.... they were trying to keep up with JJ.
Haven't they learned by now they can _never_ keep up with or outsmart Judge Judy?
I would never pay someone that much money in cash. Check or Money orders.
That surprised me. Why would they do that? They either have that kind of money lying around in the house or had to go to the bank to get the cash. Why not write a check? Especially with the SCIATICA going on.
Lol. Great example from these old people who are lying so much 😅
Vinyl siding should be outlawed for houses. It is ridiculously flimsy.
It’s cheap and most home owners are terrible house poor and can barely afford to upkeep their own homes
@@Frank00winner winner chicken dinner
THEY WERE FOOLISH
The Plaintiff's are one of a kind, they both deserve each other. The woman seems to be the dominant partner in the relationship as her word is law. Life is too short to worry about house sidings, geez.
Curiously I just had my house painted - no siding. Many shekels.
she lying.. n now saying a sob story 😂🤦🏻♀️
I lived in Spring Hill Fl for 14 years! The sun destroys siding, paint on outside coatings in Florida so homes need painting often..
Lady in audience at 1:22 is me. I am lady at 1:22. 😂
The pretty one on the left?
What's with the American flag clothing lol 😆
Idiots who don't understand that is not patriotism.
#1. They painted their ginyl siding twice in 12 years? The 1st paintjob was baking in the Florida sun for three years. Vinyl isn't as pourpse as wood or stucco so the. Paint was sitting on the surface of the vinyl. If that vinyl wasn't completely sanded prior to that 1st paintjob, then it was only a matter of time before it started to orang peel. To get an adequate result, that first paint job needrd to be stripped, then sanded, then painted. All of that work would cost a lot more than $2300.
#2. It's curious that if they were enamoured with other houses in the area they would not simply go to one of those home oyand asked "Who painted your house? Unless of course if they were the weirdos in the neighborhood who the neighbors don't have s positive relationship with.
#3. That paint buckling was due to painting lover the improperly prepped first paintjob.Any subsequent paintnobs will garner worrse results.
Well,she said it herself.They were complete idiots.
The point of vinyl siding is that it’s maintenance- free, other than washing it down once a year. If it’s lost its sheen and is deformed in places it needs to be replaced because it’s past the manufacturer’s expected life. But you don’t paint it. That’s just asking for trouble.
As Judge Judy said you should not paint Vinyl siding. If you paint it with a Darker color, it can absorb more heat than the siding can with stand and warp. If the siding is of lower quality or the paint is not compatible with the siding it can warp. I'll bet the folks also pressure washed their asphalt shingle roof too.
"I admit we were idiots" Given the levels of stupidity they exhibited and problems the husband had, wouldn't surprise me if the plantiffs are biologically related
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Maybe I am missing something here, but in these 2 videos, all the comments by "professional painters" say dark paint caused the warping. My problem is all the warped and broken siding I see in the pictures is light-colored or white, The dark siding is OK. Explain?
The broken siding (Not just warped) appears to be broken at butt joints, but vinyl is supposed to have specific overlap varying by product, approximately ¾ inch. Too much overlap causes buckling. No overlap causes ends to push against each other and pop outward like at 0:24. This siding was either improperly installed or is worn out from overheating and/or severe weather flexing it excessively.
Maybe it was buckled before he painted, and that could be why she wanted to paint, thinking it would hide the buckled siding. But I guess the painter would have mentioned that 🤔.
HAHAHAHA SCIATICA 😂😂😂😂
When will people learn? If you cook your story to make it look better for you, you will lose your case if the judge is half way decent at identifying inconsistencies. I have experience that some colors can cause vinyl siding to warp. Some colors absorb the heat from the sun, causing warping through heating. Painting contractors will tend to advise replacing the vinyl siding rather than painting it, but others will put the paint on and cross their fingers that it will be okay this time. Depending on the angle of the sun and how much shade there is, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Plus it usually takes a bit of time for the warping to happen, and by that time they have already been paid, and can do exactly what this defendant is doing.
It would have been easy to pay an experienced painter for their time to attend court and tell this to the judge.
But the plaintiff's thought it is cheaper to just cook their story, and hope the judge doesn't notice.
At least they admitted they were idiots. I’ll give them that 😂
I don't think I've ever seen an older person get SO crabby and unkind as JJ had gotten at this point in her life as a TV court judge. I am a bit disappointed in her ugly demeanor.
They had him come back to fix and repaint, when did they ask him? Recall he was back in a week and due to health concern they never checked his work or was he back a year later so the siding weathered. Or could it be the siding was such that painting could cause it to overheat and warp?
Sciatica? Are you kidding me?
I have chronic sciatica. I'm on 42 and my Dr said the best he can do for me is a cortisone injection and physical therapy. Didn't think you could have surgery? I'm going to bring it up at my next appointment lol.
@@9liveslisa it's quite debilitating actually
@@KiwiGirl1 My point was her husband's sciatica had nothing to do with the case.
@@9liveslisa 💯 She could still walk, I presume.
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I didn't know Sharon Osborne was on JJ
It pays to be honest always
Shame shame grand-mama needs some new pair of pants, bc they on fire!
The plaintiff should have had an expert witness report on the reason for the vinyl siding buckling. No mention was made of the type of paint that was used. A light colured acyllic based paint should be OK, if they used an oil based paint on the side of the house that gets the most sun exposure there might be an issue. Heat absorption: Paints with heat-absorbing pigments can cause irreversible damage to vinyl siding, called "oil canning". The painter should have advsied the plantiff if their choice of paint was going to create an issue.
judge kinda angry today ahaha
I think the wife is lying.
I bet I know who they voted for…..
It could be that the plaintiffs are correct e.g. due to the dilution medium used by the painter…. The thing is that unfortunately painting is one of those professions with least amount of education and training, almost the easiest one to get into 🤷♀️
Merry Christmas JJ crew!! Just finished eating some rib roast and vegetables now relaxing what about yall?
Just sitting down to have our turkey veg roast potatoes Happy Christmas everyone💖💖💖🎅🥂🍺
Merry Christmas, all! Just inhaled sirloin and veggies. Resting before a few slices of cake 😂
@@Solohiker213 😆my wife just finished baking a lemon cake and told me to come get some before the kids get it all😂
@@corneliuswesley6617 that's a good wife! Enjoy the rest of your day with the fam 🍰
It's boxing day morning here
Rude for no reason. JJ
Judge Judy was really irritated here.
I love how patriotic they are. I know they voted for Trump. Maga 2024
What does that have to do with anything 🤦♀️ do better
Do better than what?
Biden?
A rock is better than Joe or kamala for that matter.
LOL you trumpers love advertising your ignorance
Desecration of the flag is illegal. Ppl who use the flag as clothing are the most unpatriotic groups of losers.
And at the end, they admitted they are idiots 😅 go figure
LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
That’s a cheap paint job. They got what they paid for. JJ got this one wrong. The painter and/or employees did something wrong to the wall.
Maybe but they provided nothing proving it.
I somehow believe her. Sometimes you are too overwhelmed to do a walk through
They were idiots
They may have been but I don't think the defendant is responsible for the vinyl siding.
I think that maybe you should take a few minutes before you hand over thousands of dollars.
From what?
Her fake hair. Yikes.
Very Lucille Ball😅
@@MaleOrderBride Except Lucille was a beauty.
He used cheap paint, and vinyl will buckle if a light colored paint was used on dark vinyl
If it wasn't supposed to be painted he should still be responsible for painting it anyways
It was supposed to be painted they said they loved all the neighbors houses bc they painted theirs that was the look they were going for. They claim he put too much paint and it caused it to buckle but obviously couldn’t prove that.
Not true. They paid him to paint their vinyl siding. There are some indications in the responses that vinyl siding can be painted. It probably needed to be replaced vs painted 🤷🏽♀️
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I completely understand the pain of letting go of someone you love. I went through a similar experience when my 10 year relationship ended. I couldn't imagine my life without him, so I tried everything to rekindle our love. I eventually found guidance from a spiritual counselor, and their support helped me bring him back into my life if you're open to it, seeking help from a spiritual counselor might make a difference.
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The plaintiffs are useless