ProRes Raw just got a whole lot better (thanks to a Final Cut Pro update)

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @dunnadidit
    @dunnadidit 4 года назад +33

    Would you mind letting me know where in the river and when you’re planning to toss it in? I’ll make sure I’m just down stream. It will be the weather sealing test in my review.

  • @PhilippeBOIS
    @PhilippeBOIS 4 года назад +15

    Nikon please, Firmware update for WB temperature

    • @james1939-s1c
      @james1939-s1c 4 года назад

      I haven't tried it yet, but I seen this post I need to test. If the only thing preventing FCPX from providing ISO/WB controls for certain cameras is metadata then you should be able to work around the issue by manually adding ISO/WB metadata to the ProRes files. This can be accomplished with exiftool. To find the necessary tags examine a ProRes raw file from a camera that FCPX supports WB/ISO adjustments for and then add those tags via exiftool -=.

  • @james1939-s1c
    @james1939-s1c 4 года назад +5

    So disappointing that the first one to adopt this was the z6/z7 yet no ISO or temp support, not to mention still no RAW to LOG lut. In a year of huge releases in both firmware and hardware with all other manufacturers, Nikon seems to have shut down. This along with no Mac support on their webcam software, massive delays in z mount lenses, and what's shaping up to be only a spec bump in their z6s/z7s is not a good sign for things to come.

  • @scaltan
    @scaltan 4 года назад +1

    I think this is due to Panasonic camera are using the native resolution in the Camera. While Nikon and Fuji process the video into 4K so some information may already lost.

  • @gewglesux
    @gewglesux 4 года назад

    Good thing i was searching the internet for random stuff... i see that you updated.

  • @mattyskier
    @mattyskier 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the follow up video! Loving the new implementation with my S1H! Hopefully all cameras can have ISO/WB adjustments in the future too!

  • @truecuckoo
    @truecuckoo 4 года назад +8

    I wish Prores Raw could compress at Blackmagic Raw levels. Prores is not anywhere near that last time I checked.

    • @Behnam_Moghaddam
      @Behnam_Moghaddam 4 года назад +2

      As a resolve (and PC) user i would prefer bmRaw anyway..

    • @_o__o_
      @_o__o_ 4 года назад

      why

    • @Behnam_Moghaddam
      @Behnam_Moghaddam 4 года назад

      @@_o__o_ 12:1 compression Fotos my needs in 95 % of the time and is a breeze to work with. And as far as i know prores raw is just not compatible with resolve

  • @avarmadillo
    @avarmadillo 4 года назад +3

    Super news---for me---a S1H/and future S5 user---just ordered mine officially today.
    This looks like an exciting companion for the S1H in video. But the S5 seems to me much more than a B cam in-studio. It looks like a run and gun video that will give you great images, excellent stab., and it won't wear you out with its weight. Gott sei Dank!
    Love the S1H...but....you know the thing.
    My guess is the S1H will also get all these updates coming in the S5. Am I guessing right?

    • @lannncan
      @lannncan 4 года назад

      Hi William, I'm not sure where you live and buy from, but I do see that if you buy from a participating retailer in the U.S., you can fill out a form to get a sigma 45 f2.8 along with your pre-order.
      Pre-Order a LUMIX S5 and Receive a Free Sigma Lens Pre-Order a LUMIX S5 and Receive a Free Sigma 45mm F2.8 DG DN lens (L-Mount). Offer ends 09/30/2020

  • @rusparmesan
    @rusparmesan 4 года назад +22

    Please don't throw the camera into the river, throw it in my general direction. Or tell me in what part of the river should I sit to catch that A7S III

  • @1BigBucks1
    @1BigBucks1 4 года назад +1

    It's finally raw now*
    *with some cameras
    Which company will be brave enough to license it for internal recording?

  • @dodavis1636
    @dodavis1636 4 года назад +1

    Now I'm looking forward to a future video of Jordan throwing a new camera in to the river.

  • @jeanchindeko5477
    @jeanchindeko5477 4 года назад +2

    The problem have never been with the format himself but the implementation in different NLE, FCPX first!

  • @pincopallo6
    @pincopallo6 4 года назад

    AS of today it seems Sony A7S3 doesn't have any WB or ISO metadata in its PRR video files made in conjunction with Atomos V ...

  • @TheOneMonk
    @TheOneMonk 4 года назад

    Another advantage of the SH1.

  • @vexphoto
    @vexphoto 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video guys.

  • @dougdavis5808
    @dougdavis5808 4 года назад

    Hi keep up the great work I am just getting into photography and I bought a Canon SL2 and it came with the kit len and I picked up a 50mm witch I love but I am looking for a 200mm. I got a price for a 70-300mm F-4-5.6 IS II USM for $619.00 before taxes, but can you recommend a 50-200mm or some where around there at a F 2.8 that will not break the bank?

  • @creativeorstrange
    @creativeorstrange 4 года назад

    Great video! Bit off topic: this update messed up a project I was working on ( somehow my Mac was set to automatic update). Now, all the Canon log 3 from the canon c300 II displays a weird colour when I have not done any colour correction and haven’t applied a lut. What’s weirder is it only does this when the the video in the viewer is paused or if I hover over a clip and don’t move. I would not wish this on anyone. Please keep time machine up to date ( I wish I did) and proceed with caution and make sure automatic update is still turned off. I love Final Cut , but it has really let me down this time!

  • @ACDGibson
    @ACDGibson 4 года назад +5

    Question: Resolve is not supporting ProRes Raw? (and probably never will?)

    • @mariotriforce
      @mariotriforce 4 года назад

      Eh they probably will eventually

    • @DollyRanch
      @DollyRanch 4 года назад +1

      They sell their software and cameras with a competing format that is, in some ways, inferior if you believe Apple and Atomos' representatives. Something about Blackmagic Raw being a partial de-Bayer but ProRes Raw isn't

    • @mariotriforce
      @mariotriforce 4 года назад +1

      @@DollyRanch braw is not true raw which is true, but all things considered blackmagic has made it very compelling alternative

    • @DollyRanch
      @DollyRanch 4 года назад

      mariotriforce it is at least 12-bit and 4:4:4 yes? And it seems pretty flexible beyond that. It's a shame true RAW is limited to the Sony movie cameras

    • @mariotriforce
      @mariotriforce 4 года назад +1

      @@DollyRanch I know it's 12 but and I'm quite sure it's 4:4:4, well blame pattern hogs like RED for makeing blackmagic have to work their way arround their patents, I still wouldnt mind a cinema dng option if that was possible but shruggs what can ya doXD

  • @anasqsous2200
    @anasqsous2200 4 года назад +1

    Is there any chance for me as nikon shooter to get the rest of the prores changes ?

  • @EugeniaLoli
    @EugeniaLoli 4 года назад +4

    There is always BRAW. Which has the same quality as ProRES RAW, with full feature set, for half the bitrate. I wish more manufacturers were going with it.

    • @imabigsandwich1292
      @imabigsandwich1292 4 года назад +2

      Not with that softening that blackmagic does to their files, that's the compromise of trying to efficiently encode raw using dct into such a low bitrate. They had to sacrifice the microcontrast and the resolution of the image just to do so. Where as prores raw only goes down to 4:1, so even though they uses dct they don't have to soften and denoise the image. So you are actually getting the true resolution of the image.

  • @robertm3951
    @robertm3951 4 года назад

    It would be nice to have one standard RAW format, but I am not sure about putting it into the hands of Atomos and Apple.

  • @jfilmzstudio3470
    @jfilmzstudio3470 4 года назад +2

    Davinci Resolve needs ProRess Raw 😔

  • @maryetdave
    @maryetdave 4 года назад

    And Im here editing with my GoPro camera with GoPro colours mode.

  • @AleMarchAMP
    @AleMarchAMP 4 года назад

    When can we expect a test of the Fujifilm XF50mmF1.0 R WR ?

  • @fatheadmediapro
    @fatheadmediapro 4 года назад

    Is that true about the dual native ISO? I was under the impression that the camera had to have dual circuits in order to have dual native iso. Otherwise there should only be one base iso. This is one of the main features and selling points of the S1H, a feature more commonly found only in cinema cameras. And others don’t seem to implement this (Nikon, Sony).

  • @FabledFew
    @FabledFew 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video Jordan! It's exciting to see ProRes Raw finally get .. "Raw" capabilities. Is there any way or any plugin you can use to edit ProRes Raw in Da Vinci Resolve? I really don't want to go back to Premiere.

    • @fatheadmediapro
      @fatheadmediapro 4 года назад

      Honestly I found the way premiere handles the raw is not ideal. Try looking into assimilate scratch. It’s free till end of October and has had all the functionality of ISO/WB for a while now. I just used assimilate to transcode to ProRes 4444 and then edit in resolve. Works really great!

  • @mohamedayman4248
    @mohamedayman4248 4 года назад

    I don't understand Nikon's position on that, but seriously, there must be an explanation for that, but I don't know how or why they didn't get added by apple for those new features.

  • @ColeDeRuse
    @ColeDeRuse 4 года назад

    if the a7siii won't allow for temperature adjustment in ProRes RAW - that's a pretty big fail and I will be very disappointed.

  • @davidp158
    @davidp158 4 года назад

    Thanks for this video. That's a good tip on how to determine the two ISO with noise detection.
    Why have these new ProResRAW feature taken sooooo long to implement? Will it take another year or two to include these new features in Premiere Pro? Is the slow progress due to Apple's conflicts with RED's R3D codec?
    If Apple wants ProResRAW to become a standard like good ol' ProRes, they really need to offer better support for camera manufacturers and NLE developers. Oh, wait...I forgot this is Apple we're dealing with. They will likely have better ProResRAW support in the next iPhone and iMovie before complete support in Premiere Pro. Ugh....!

  • @bencorwin
    @bencorwin 4 года назад

    YES! Finally!

  • @mcneilbelle
    @mcneilbelle 4 года назад

    compressed Raw , i thought shooting in prores raw gives us uncompressed raw im confused can you tell me how i can get uncompressed raw

  • @BeaglefreilaufKalkar
    @BeaglefreilaufKalkar 4 года назад

    Apple should really make a deal with Black Magic in supporting each other’s RAW formats in their Software, it will benefit them both. Also, I wonder why there is few video cameras below say 3000 Dollar who actually support ANY kind of RAW. Is RAW video a new thing? Is it Processor intensive? Maybe Apple should start designing and selling DSP chips to Camera manufacturers? When will iPhones start supporting ProRES? And before anybody starts, when I compare video from my 3-year-old iPhone X video with my 11 year old 5DMarkII it does a surprisingly good job. I am really curious how and if the LIDAR function of the upcoming iPhone 12 will be in DOF or Background blur in Video and if it will be combined with face recognition. Now there’s a Killer feature.

  • @ClimateRealism
    @ClimateRealism 4 года назад

    USING A7SIII with ninja to get the proRes Right raw and the latest FCPX I am not offered the ability to change WB or ISO - anyone is with this issue?

  • @mdhazeldine
    @mdhazeldine 4 года назад

    Is there even any point to RAW if you can't change exposure and white balance?

  • @sharathchandra1023
    @sharathchandra1023 4 года назад

    Why the blues are so different in prores raw! It's odd looking. Skies don't look that way🤷

  • @spritual_enlightenment
    @spritual_enlightenment 4 года назад +1

    Pro Res Raw will be No. 1 in the market. I wish Black magic Raw become close 2nd.

  • @StringBard
    @StringBard 4 года назад

    Not bad but personally I find recording externally (which Prores RAW requires) extremely uncomfortable and clunky. I wish they implemented something similar but without the need of an extra accessory you have to carry around

  • @skymakai
    @skymakai 4 года назад

    Still no WB correction for Sony Raw though.

  • @tobiashahn7539
    @tobiashahn7539 4 года назад +1

    These socks. In this shoes.... Jordaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!!

  • @dimitrimoonlight
    @dimitrimoonlight 4 года назад

    Unfortunately, Sony A7siii doesn't support full setting in pro-res raw.

  • @s2eves
    @s2eves 4 года назад

    Has it been confirmed that the Sony α7S III won’t support ProRes RAW temperature adjustment in post?

    • @s2eves
      @s2eves 4 года назад

      Hahaha I paused to check the list and comment just before Jordan mentioned the α7S III and said “if...”
      There’s still hope » support.apple.com/en-ca/HT211277

  • @sizzlemann
    @sizzlemann 4 года назад +3

    Hi, my name is River! Let me know when you want to throw the Sony A7s3 at me! 😁

  • @JDFBeats-yx1hh
    @JDFBeats-yx1hh 3 года назад

    Can you edit PreRes raw on a PC, or just Mac?

  • @ReginaldEsque
    @ReginaldEsque 4 года назад

    Is it still in Premiere Pro beta only?

  • @mauibuilder1239
    @mauibuilder1239 4 года назад

    Interesting. Where's the power button on this thing?

  • @QuicksilverSG
    @QuicksilverSG 4 года назад

    Yet another format war is brewing between Prores RAW and Blackmagic RAW. As the Mac slowly dies and drags FCPX down with it, Blackmagic Design is pushing to become the new Apple, enforcing Blackmagic RAW as the in-house standard in Davinci Resolve. Unfortunately, BMD is struggling with a few self-inflicted showstoppers. If you don't shoot with a BMPCC4K, which records Blackmagic RAW internally, you need a Blackmagic Video Assist recorder to encode your camera's Blackmagic RAW output stream. That sucks because everyone uses an Atomos recorder (which records Prores RAW, not Blackmagic RAW), not to mention the fact the Blackmagic Video Assist sucks (particularly with its faulty HDR support).
    Back to Prores RAW, which currently supports a variety of Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic and Z-Cam video cameras. The lack of Prores RAW support in Davinci Resolve means you must stick with either FCPX (and the Mac as well) or Adobe post-production workflows. That sucks if you intend to work in HDR, which currently requires a Davinci Resolve workflow for proper metadata support.
    Of course, you can always give RAW a pass and record in LOG format using DNxHR, which eliminates Prores support issues and makes Davinci Resolve a viable choice. The problem with LOG, however, is that each camera manufacturer implements its own proprietary LOG format, which can complicate your post-production workflow with LUT compatibility issues when intercutting footage from different camera types (e.g. Panasonic GH5 and Nikon Z6). An alternative I'm currently exploring is recording footage in HLG (using either Prores or DNxHR). What makes HLG attractive is that it provides dynamic range comparable to LOG, in a standardized cross-platform format supported by a wide range of cameras, recorders, and NLE's. Unfortunately, the Z6 doesn't have HLG output, but the upcoming Z6 II does...

  • @ricliquid
    @ricliquid 4 года назад

    That Criterion t-shirt

  • @PiDsPagePrototypes
    @PiDsPagePrototypes 4 года назад +1

    What we're seeing here, is what ProResRaw should have been on initial release.
    I'll stick to CineDNG rather then move to slow NLE's like FCP or Premiere.
    Frankly, Braw is still superior, and available to any NLE on any OS, and getting more cameras supported over time.

    • @ThomasCristofoletti
      @ThomasCristofoletti 4 года назад

      Braw is not supported on FCPX... just premiere (and of course Resolve).

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 4 года назад +1

      @@ThomasCristofoletti FCP-X is because Apple chooses not to, not because of of BMD - There's a free SDK enabling Any company to implement it, which is why Prem gets in on PC and on Mac.
      Apple is also why getting ProRes export on PC is so damn difficult.

    • @digwillhachi
      @digwillhachi 4 года назад

      If only Atmos would use it. I love BRAW.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 4 года назад

      @@digwillhachi Atomos can't even finish the firmware on their own products, let alone support other formats.🤣

    • @digwillhachi
      @digwillhachi 4 года назад

      @@PiDsPagePrototypes lol for real? thats disappointing. I was thinking of getting one to use with the A7s3.

  • @gaboguerra950
    @gaboguerra950 4 года назад

    But not Davinci support. No open source as BRAW. Shame

  • @editor4958
    @editor4958 4 года назад

    Prores raw, cool. Glad it is making manufacturers more inclined to provide RAW output. But I like Resolve, and there is unlikely to ever be support for using Prores RAW in DaVinci. I wish you would refer to the alternative, push it even. The competition will be good for us all. There is so much to be said for Black Magic Raw and its various compressed varieties. Without support, Apple is such a juggernaut I fear the worst. Look how long it took Apple to address this ISO/White balance/exposure. Jeesh, look at quicktime for a historical example. They have other priorities.

  • @cOcOmOo92
    @cOcOmOo92 Год назад

    Has anyone so far tested wether it is also possible in premiere pro to control the ISO/white balance like this?

  • @letsfindout6587
    @letsfindout6587 4 года назад

    Nikon Z6 vs Canon R6?

  • @fellowcitizen
    @fellowcitizen 4 года назад

    Are there any non-Mac ProRes editing suites that you'd recommend?
    (Preferably Linux)

  • @adhisopian7030
    @adhisopian7030 4 года назад

    Xf50mm f1.0??

  • @chualiang7268
    @chualiang7268 4 года назад

    Dose the dual native iso effect on still image ?

    • @rtz5668
      @rtz5668 4 года назад +1

      If a camera sensor has a dual native iso it will have effect on stills and video

  • @johnhjic2
    @johnhjic2 4 года назад

    Nice video, One thing come to mind it would be great to be able to set the ISO after shooting in stills to. Now that would be nice.

    • @andreasbuder4417
      @andreasbuder4417 4 года назад +3

      You can do that for 10+ years now, on every camera with RAW support.

  • @carlporter2239
    @carlporter2239 4 года назад

    By middle October 2020, still no white balance nor ISO on RAW footage at the Sony A7Siii ... that’s meme material.
    * hope he didn’t throw the camera into the river.

  • @karanchhimwal2174
    @karanchhimwal2174 4 года назад

    Is pro res raw supported by premiere Pro?

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 4 года назад

      Which ever is the current version on Mac. Not sure on PC.

  • @robertm3951
    @robertm3951 4 года назад

    I am not sure why Black Magic can't offer the same thing with BRAW and their external recorders

    • @robertm3951
      @robertm3951 4 года назад

      @@kezzatube45 That is right, but nobody except BMD is using it. ProRes RAW is far from open source and most major camera companies are using it to record to Atomos

    • @robertm3951
      @robertm3951 4 года назад

      @@kezzatube45 You are right. I should have said nothing I can afford besides BMD uses BRAW.

  • @fashiondesigner4620
    @fashiondesigner4620 4 года назад

    Hey Jordan, I love your style of reviewing cameras. You are very effective effective! I want to upload some really top quality videos made in my home office onto my RUclips channel. I am going to be sitting on a sofa explaining a new product and at times picking up presentation documents from the coffee table in front of me to show the audience. Ideally the camera should be 6 to 7 feet away from my face. Furniture in the room is modern chrome and glass with a light gray (fabric) sofa and colorful cushions on it. Walls are off white with a painting on the wall behind me situated a little off to the side. My maximum budget for the camera (including lens) is $1500. Since I'm naturally an animated person and will be picking up documents to show from the coffee table quite often I am assuming the camera should have a fast autofocus. I need to project a sophisticated image so I'd like the camera to have true to life colors and high resolution. Would you kindly recommend a good camera for this project? Thanks. Mark

  • @digwillhachi
    @digwillhachi 4 года назад

    Now if only Da Vinci would support it.

  • @hytalegermany1095
    @hytalegermany1095 4 года назад

    Omg at 3:26 I was like WAAAIT second native iso is 4000 and not 3200. I have always shot on 3200 face palm of the month goes to me 😂. Well NICE now I know how to improve my image 😁

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo 4 года назад +1

    Final Cuts color pipeline still can’t hold a candle to the one of Resolve. I never had problems white balancing the 10Bit V-LogL footage of my GH5s in Resolve, even in extreme situations.

    • @jlwilliams
      @jlwilliams 4 года назад

      VariTimo [Quick summary] The way I do things is much, much better than the way you do things. It's better because I say it is. Take my word for it. After all, would some random guy in RUclips lie to you?

    • @VariTimo
      @VariTimo 4 года назад +1

      Well I didn’t mean to offend anybody and I don’t know at what point lying comes into the question. Resolve has a much more sophisticated color pipeline, no Hollywood movie is graded on Final Cut. And I was able to white balance very off GH5s footage no problem in Resolve. (I do of course know that Resolves ProRes Raw support doesn’t compare to the one in Final Cut).

  • @TheNjordy
    @TheNjordy 4 года назад

    Why are you talking about codecs in the bushes?

  • @EugeneMaynard
    @EugeneMaynard 4 года назад

    🙏🏾

  • @hautehussey
    @hautehussey 4 года назад

    As I Nikon user this was disappointing. I wonder why it’s so hard to support this?

  • @Samhertzog
    @Samhertzog 4 года назад

    It's still annoying you need to be a Mac user for this, Blackmagic need to step up and offer the same with their Braw in other cameras

  • @danieldougan269
    @danieldougan269 4 года назад

    It's so ridiculous that Apple won't even sell ProRes support to Windows users as an add-on or license it to Adobe to include in the Windows version of Premiere Pro.
    Not that I as a pure amateur have a camera that can record raw video anyway, but it would help some people so they wouldn't be forced to use a Mac.

    • @PANAFRAZER
      @PANAFRAZER 4 года назад +1

      Sorry Daniel but this is not true. PRRaw support has been in Premiere for Windows for as long as it has in a Mac.
      support.apple.com/kb/dl2033?locale=en_US

    • @danieldougan269
      @danieldougan269 2 года назад

      @@PANAFRAZER Thank you, I stand corrected.

  • @shagral_
    @shagral_ 4 года назад

    Prores Raw might as well not exist until it is supported by DVR.

  • @pooyafitness
    @pooyafitness 4 года назад

    I prefer DNG Raw

  • @rishiraz1993
    @rishiraz1993 4 года назад +3

    I am still waiting for camera manufacturers to adopt BRAW. Sigma seems to be the only one so far.

    • @anony_meows
      @anony_meows 4 года назад +1

      i second this

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 4 года назад +1

      Sigma, Panasonic any Canon all have supported models, more should be coming, though I'm still hoping to see the Cion supported, as Atomos and Convergent never delivered on their promises of supporting AJA Raw, which is 12 bit CineDNG

    • @rishiraz1993
      @rishiraz1993 4 года назад

      @@PiDsPagePrototypes I wasn't aware Panasonic and Canon. Thanks for the info.
      I hope they also add BRAW support to mirrorless cameras soon.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 4 года назад

      @@rishiraz1993 It depends on whether the manufacturers have enabled Raw Output - There's many more cameras that do, then what ProResRaw or Braw support.

  • @ionluv
    @ionluv 4 года назад

    how come nobody supports this internally? what's up with that?

  • @SkylerKing
    @SkylerKing 4 года назад +3

    Last

  • @Youthure
    @Youthure 4 года назад

    I want a DP logo Pokéball

  • @dehuanxin7207
    @dehuanxin7207 4 года назад

    90% of all standards are just a superset of status quo.
    Under the big brand name umbrella every vendor just do their own thint.
    f

  • @blender_wiki
    @blender_wiki 4 года назад

    Still a poor Codec

  • @TomaszBrodecki
    @TomaszBrodecki 4 года назад

    Whoah Jordan looks significantly worse than usual, blown out forehead and unusually flat-looking face at the same time o_O
    Anyway, thanks for the update ^^

  • @GeoffreyGonzales
    @GeoffreyGonzales 4 года назад

    red means stop

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 4 года назад +2

    jordan looks alot better outta focus ;) lol

  • @dracleirbag5838
    @dracleirbag5838 4 года назад

    love jokes.

  • @jeffhalebopp
    @jeffhalebopp 4 года назад +1

    Just gave a down vote for the next video "Farm to Table with Becca Skinner and the Canon EOS R6" since the comments are disabled and I stopped watching. Feedback not allowed? What's up with that DPReview?

  • @blotafton
    @blotafton 4 года назад

    Colors looks weird in this video.

  • @_o__o_
    @_o__o_ 4 года назад

    dude needs to lighten up a little

  • @panagiotistsiverdis
    @panagiotistsiverdis 4 года назад

    The hole colour theory extravaganza is starting to become ridiculous.. Orange and teal is shit people! Look at the sky on this video! You NEVER see the sky having this colour. It looks like shit - pardon my french! I love this channel but I had to speak up! End this orange and teal trend right now! You're gonna feel sorry for this choice in a few years. It's like the atrocities done with HDR during the 90's and early 00's..