The imperial palace is about a hundred times larger than you portrayed it. They didn't just level Mount Everest, they leveled the ENTIRE Himalayan mountain range. The palace itself encompasses almost 2/3 of the entire Asian continent.
Also holy shit, can you imagine and Iron Warriors legion with the FLAWLESS logistics of the Ultramarines supporting it? You NEVER run out of ammo, mines, tanks, armor, ships, fuel, ferrocrete. "Oh you need what to assault that world as efficiently as possible? Too easy, 3-5 business days, free shipping". can you imagine capturing a Tyranid ship and infecting it with the Obliterator Virus then Dad catches you with it and you're expecting to get yelled at and he just says "huh...that's kinda neat. Go get a bigger one."
Isn't that what every Primarch does? "New Toys? For me? Oh I love you guys." even Angron was like "You offer me your heads to smash? So generous, I gonna use that gift, come here you little rascals." But yeah, Perturabo and Gulliman would be unstoppable together, put Rogal Dorn into the mix and you get an idea of what the big e was going for at hour 0 "so i make this dude who can build, then this dude that can logistics, that dude can build siege weapons now I gonna build my battery and the rest I just make some rabbit animals who go eat everyone, yay I am so super smart!" Allthough poor Angron, he was supposed to be the empathic one, I mean on the other hand he would have get mad without the nails anyways, he was empathic in 40k, that can't be good for mental health.
Add the Death Korps of Krieg for army support. IW builds a wall Krieg build trenches, that fortification will never fall. When they start to advance, the Iron Warriors know the best way and best places to hit their target, and the Kriger's just accept that they will be ground to dust by this plan. Then when the Krieg take the point, the Warriors storm into fill the hole, and the Death Korps pull back to work their perfect artillery aim. It's a pairing so good it could never happen.
Ummm they had their own factories during haresy the iron warriors could build automatons porturabo had grajned some his men to build machines hsinh hos own knolledge and the knolledge of mechanicum they stated ro rival the cyberneticus even
I think Perturabo left more because of the demons, than the jealousy. If you read the passage in Mortis, he's not surprised by the order to be displaced from command. He says that "there is nothing left here that can be called victory", and he knows about Horus's delerium. It appears more that he knows that a Chaos-possesed Horus is a defeat all on its own, so he leaves for that reason.
Pre-Heresy: Guilliman: **writes a better tax code** Dorn: **makes THE best sandcastle** Perturabo: **builds a better mousetrap** Post-Heresy: Guilliman: **cries into his paperwork** Dorn: **measures the board-width** Perturabo: **digs holes**
So, a theory I like is that Perturabo is not actually a Daemon Prince. But instead, the injury Fulgrim dealt him caused his body to degrade so much that he had to keep adding mechanical improvements to his suit to stay alive. Given the reputation the iron warriors have with how they deal with mutations and posession, I don't think Perty would accept becoming a daemon prince. So that, or he got effected by the oblitirator virus himself. Which I'm fine with, too.
I like to think that given how his men take demons and enslave them into machines, perty over time in the warp trying to be more efficient and hold to his standards claimed the warp power for his own overtime. So while he is technically a daemon primarch he's an unaligned one who took the power rather than ask for it. Imo this drive is part of why he hasn't personally left the warp for war and when he does it'll reveal him as some unholy Mish mash of warp and tech thru a form of obliterated virus tailored by him. He will be an absolut monster in appearance but a work of art from a function perspective being this unstoppable seigw engine on legs.
Isyander never mentions that Ultramarine isn't just the singular form of the title of Robute's legion, but is a deep blue color and a mineral that used as a pigment to produce that color? THE COLOR OF THE ULTRAMARINES IS ULTRAMARINE. There simply is no aspect of the Ultramarines that isn't Ultra.
Only issue is that when I would by citadel paint, it was fairly far off the actual color of ground lapis lazuli, so maybe in lore but in real life they have a far darker side.
@@TheNehebkau Doing some surface level research online, and not having handled the stuff myself, I'll have to agree with you. But, given the chemical complexity of lazurite/ultamarine, something can be quite plausibly retconned into wh40k existence. Somebody found a recipe for darker artificial ultramarine, or a related compound, the name "ultramarine" got used for prussian blue and it stuck, the color in-universe was named after the Ultramarines, or its named after the planet Ultramar because of a unique mineral found there that is used to color Ultamarines' armor.
The best way to describe the difference between UM and IW is that while both legions are mirror-brilliant at logistics, UM takes advantage of specialisation to an inordinate degree, but the IW treat all their legionaries like cogs in an unstoppable war machine. The IW recruitment process is always understated in how incredible it is. Each marine is a master at firearms, logistics, architecture, siege-warfare, engineering and mathematical reasoning. They have to be, because for Peter, he needs to be able to interchange cogs in his machine if one is faulty - be it a line trooper or one of his Triarchs. And they make these marines from essentially the worst stock there is to offer. So UMs are specialists, while IWs are generalists. A UM will not under any normal circumstances, be able to garrison an entire world with a squad of marines, but any IW can, because they can do everything - they can fix the machines, fortifications and design them, work out the supply chains and calculate the optimal use of resources, calculate optimal firing patterns to conserve ammunition, etc.
The fact that the iron warriors have a little perks about their geneseed that mature faster and is low reject rate help a lot for recrutement and troops replanishement. It's sometime overlooked but thanks to that they where hable to sustain mutch more bold and effectives tactics despide the tremandous amount of death that would cripples most legions.
I'm voting for the Blood Angels, I loved them ever since I played them in Horus Heresy: Legions, the card game. Also, youtube sees this video as a game from 1995.
@@nosleepp6744And it absolutely sucks going against them now unless you have anti-stealth tech. I mean it still sucked before, but they had less ways to get stealth back onto their units before, and they didn't have the benefit of Ambush.
Corvus Corax and the Ravenguard because id love your take on Corvus' current warpy shenanigan! However as they aren't currently an option, I vote the Ultramarines. When all else fails, you want the dependability that their efficiency brings.
I vote for a White Scars/Jaghatai Khan episode Times I've requested an episode for the Khan: 8 ‘Since when was saving mankind from the darkness a sign of weakness?’ Jaghatai
I get the feeling they’ve already met and it’s why Perturabo looks the way he does. From scant descriptions the man is basically a demon cyborg and that’s Vashtorrs thing. The man was essentially dying and made a deal with Vashtor in order to save his own life. Even during the Arks of Omen theirs part where Vashtor admires the way Iron Warriors work, like a well oiled machine
@@Broomer52 Nah that's lame. Better than bending to other gods, but still out of character for Perty. Man should be massive primarch/dreadnought thing, building himself up and up and up to compensate for his body dying slowly but surely
...An Iron Warriors joint operation with the Night Lords would be one of the worst situations to be set against: scaring the living daylights out of any defenders before these defenders get ground to mulch!
Gonna keep saying it the blood angels are them. - Sanguinus' speech at the Infinity gate still gives chills. -Commander Dante gained the respect of Guillaman. -The desolation of Baal is legendary.
You look around at who else Horus had to lean on, half of his traitor brothers are incompetent and the other half are clinically insane. He really had no where else to trust the hard stuff to.
My husband makes dice and I had him listen to your Chaos Gods videos. He is now trying to figure out how to put Tzeentch and a Safe for Work Slaanesh into dice form. Needless to say we both look forward for the vids and soon will join the legion. I like listening to you while playing other games or sanding dice. Throwing my hat in with the Blood Angels but hope we can circle back to the others.
As someone who has only gotten into 40k listening to you guys, I vote blue boys (Ultramarines). I know little about them and have been trying not to spoil myself until after hearing y'all's version.
34:04 minor correction, Chaos didn’t mutate him into a daemon primarch, he did it to himself in a ritual using the corpses of the imperial fists. In a small excerpt, a space marine meets up with perturabo and he’s apparently had some character development, he’s less petulant and more calm.
I have so much respect for someone who is also is expected to do everything and actually did something about it. I’ve never been more satisfied hearing about a fellow work horse and the immediate regret of the emperium as they realized the only ones who get it done aren’t on their side.
@@personman8734 Wait what are you saying the Heresy side of the Primarchs were the ones who got shit done? It was just Perty really. If I remember correctly he seemed to regret the choice to join the traitors because he was STILL the unappreciated shitjobs work horse but now his coworkers AND boss are a bunch of violently partying batshit insane gremlins. The Imperium didn't seem overly upset he dipped (more upset about the war part) but I will say the traitors DEFINITELY felt it when he left and there was the moment of "damn the guy who gets it done is gone".
The best part about the Iron Cage is that Rogal Dorn basically did what Perturabo did to the Iron Warriors when he first met them. But instead of killing 1 out 10, Dorn killed 9 out of 10. Also the 1% you guys mention at 31:32 is the exact way Perturabo always led his legion, as mentioned when you compaired Perturabo with Guilliman. 😊
Personally I know more about the Blood Angels than the Ultramarines so my vote is for the Ultramarines. I’d love to hear more about The Avenging Bean Counter and His Blue Boys. Plus Iysander seems really excited for them
RE your conversation about the White House and fortifications, I highly suggest reading Raven Rock by Garrett Graff. Fascinating look at how the US Gov't basically "Dorn'd" 2 mountains (Raven Rock and Mt. Weather) and the improvements made to the White House for "continuity of government" stuff in the nuclear era. Raven Rock was basically discovered because a plane crashed on a nearby mountain and the "first" responders were confused why soldiers were showing up first.
I love the ultra marines, I run their chapter master marneus Calgar as a commander in magic but I wanna hear about the blood angels. Tell me about my boy Dante and how he held Baal down against the tyranids
I wanna give you two a very big thank you I’ve recently gone through a pretty messy breakup and between the tears and the exhaustion you two are helping immensely to keep my mind off stuff and move forward
Off topic, but I love how the world eaters ran into battle essentially crying “dad never loved me” while dad was languishing over the fact that his dad loved him but not in the way he wanted.
I actually really like how the iron warriors and perterabo fully fell to chaos and Perty became a deamon primarch. It shows that chaos is an unstoppable force that as soon as you work with it even once (to include to force the Deamons into machines) you are chaos’s play thing. I enjoy the idea however that perty as a deamon primarch is just a massive machine because he always cut off every chaos mutation and replaces it with metal. So perty (as a Deamon Primarch of slannesh) is just this massive robot deamon primarch thing
@@Admmkhoh i know. I just don’t like the idea of undivided primarchs because like…there’s only one undivided prince and the four gods looked at each other and said “never again.” And went off and made their own so how would they come together again to create several undivided primarchs
@@joeljohnston3390nah I like the idea of him being undivided as the great game players (the chaos Gods) being petulant children would never let another have a second toy. Now this thing with vashtorr though.....
Perty is kinda like the ultimate power tool ... as in "he's got a lot of power ... but he's about the biggest TOOL of a man you could possibly get." ... also, Ultramar, please
Yup people don't grasp how sad Gulliman is, he had so much hope for the advancement of the Imperium and its literally become the antithesis of what he fought for. I think the Indomitus Crusade is partially a means for him to just get away from Terra and not think about how much everything has deteriorated.
I know yall are on a 40k kick and I'm here for it, personally, I would love it if you could cover what you know about AOS. Not many content creators for AOS, and would love to hear your humor and hot takes on it. Also AOS has some incredible minis that feel more intricate than 40k sometimes and I think yall would appreciate the art.
Ultramarines my friend! Robot Girlyman for the win! Also, Perturabo seems to be in complete control of his Daemonhood. He doesn’t appear to lose his mind at all, and stay the same in his mind and might. He’s even buddy buddy with Vashtorr.
Peturabo has always been my favorite primarch. Vulkan a very close 2nd. Yes. I see the "ha ha" of it. Perturabo was fucking awesome until he got demon'd. Grind it out, sheer willpower and brass balls. Fkn awesome Closest thing to the imperial guard, the real chads, from those pansies in the ceremite armor. Fook yeah Also... come on bro Peturabo was better than dorn. Always was.
The headspace that Peter-turbo was in at the end of the Heresy was that he would bring order to chaos where his brothers had failed, so it makes some kind of sense that he became a demon.
from iron cometh strength from strength cometh will from will cometh faith from faith cometh honor and from honor cometh IRON this is the unbreakable litany, may it forever be so. IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT
The Iron Warriors didn't fall to Chaos. They turned traitor. There is a big difference. The Iron Warriors don't serve Chaos. But it can purchase their services. The Iron Warriors suffer occasional small mutations and corruption due to long term warp exposure, not the influence of the Chaos gods.
Robutt Girli-man is the kind of guy who you think you're pranking by ordering something same day shipping at 11:59 pm and there's a knock on the door with the package is there on your porch.
It kind of sucks that big E made the primarchs to be psychic beings but disinformed them on their powers, the warp, and the demons they were succeptible to. Even if they didnt use psyker powers like early dorn or guilliman they were essentially psychic in nature. I mean magnus and big E met way before any forces of the imperium showed up to prospero by them both reaching out through the warp.
5:00 no G is good at everything . great at strategy politics and logistics . but amazing at nothing. example the Khan is amazing with the swotd the fastest primarch bad with politics logistic and more or less strategy . " now ofc the khan be not a good strategist is still a primarch that mn there is no human comparable to him . we compare him with his brothers
I don't think Perty is a deamon prince at this point. Is there any quote in any of the books that say that outright? He isn't mutated near to any sort of point as his deamon brothers and seems to be more in a Dreadnought type machine than a deamon prince does. I'm pretty sure thats what it is at this point and needed a Dreadnought type machine after his fight with Fulgrim I belive.
Ultramarines! Barabas Dantioch as Peter Gibbons (had to look it up) is an all-time great fucking reference and I'm so glad to live in the timeline where someone made that joke. This is why you guys are doing so well in this WarHammin' RUclips podcast game! Damn it feels good to be a [Loyalist]!
Oh , so im not injured by life to be compleshionist on every life way plus some ptsd , im just average Iron warrior type , thx that kind of wisdom i want to know earlier to be better
I understand the iron warriors, I have no talents, the truth is I think I have autism. But God as my witness I swear that I will do a great job no matter the conditions.
blood angel vote part 2 electric boogaloo. the Ultra marines may have the most named characters but they also have the most time in the spot light. leave em behind!
15:16 That fact about the white house made me hear the SuperAnchors/TTS Dorn "Yeeeeess." Plus the "I AM REINSTALLING THE PALACE." lines go through my head cranked to 11.
The imperial palace is about a hundred times larger than you portrayed it.
They didn't just level Mount Everest, they leveled the ENTIRE Himalayan mountain range. The palace itself encompasses almost 2/3 of the entire Asian continent.
What in the actual fuck
@@darkwaterstag7068 Big E said "go big or go home"
@@dude8351 for real, that's so insanely cool
Didn't they turn Mount Everest into a giant light house?
so the emperor is in a different time zone from the palace gate guards
Also holy shit, can you imagine and Iron Warriors legion with the FLAWLESS logistics of the Ultramarines supporting it? You NEVER run out of ammo, mines, tanks, armor, ships, fuel, ferrocrete. "Oh you need what to assault that world as efficiently as possible? Too easy, 3-5 business days, free shipping".
can you imagine capturing a Tyranid ship and infecting it with the Obliterator Virus then Dad catches you with it and you're expecting to get yelled at and he just says "huh...that's kinda neat. Go get a bigger one."
And if you’re about about to win they just salt the earth as they retreat and render a entire planet uninhabitable for even bacteria
Then add on the Salamanders and their ability for forge god hammers. Would have been straight GG for Horus
Isn't that what every Primarch does? "New Toys? For me? Oh I love you guys." even Angron was like "You offer me your heads to smash? So generous, I gonna use that gift, come here you little rascals." But yeah, Perturabo and Gulliman would be unstoppable together, put Rogal Dorn into the mix and you get an idea of what the big e was going for at hour 0 "so i make this dude who can build, then this dude that can logistics, that dude can build siege weapons now I gonna build my battery and the rest I just make some rabbit animals who go eat everyone, yay I am so super smart!" Allthough poor Angron, he was supposed to be the empathic one, I mean on the other hand he would have get mad without the nails anyways, he was empathic in 40k, that can't be good for mental health.
Add the Death Korps of Krieg for army support.
IW builds a wall Krieg build trenches, that fortification will never fall.
When they start to advance, the Iron Warriors know the best way and best places to hit their target, and the Kriger's just accept that they will be ground to dust by this plan. Then when the Krieg take the point, the Warriors storm into fill the hole, and the Death Korps pull back to work their perfect artillery aim.
It's a pairing so good it could never happen.
Ummm they had their own factories during haresy the iron warriors could build automatons porturabo had grajned some his men to build machines hsinh hos own knolledge and the knolledge of mechanicum they stated ro rival the cyberneticus even
Iron warriors are by far one of the most competent legions around, the fact they have hazard tape as part of their paint scheme speaks volumes
It‘s actually Perty‘s heraldry on Olympia
@@axcel9128 sigh.... hazard tape is more funny than random nerd knowledge
@@axcel9128ooc it's hazard tape, just like "Mon'Keigh" sounding like "Monkey"
@@muglypunt968 or Perturabo's heraldry IS hazard tape?
I imagine that when Perty learned of what his kids did to a tyranid ship, he went: that's cool and all, but let's do a fleet next.
yes then to all of the tyranids
"Thats nice kids, now it's daddy's turn."
He punished them for thinking too small.
I think Perturabo left more because of the demons, than the jealousy. If you read the passage in Mortis, he's not surprised by the order to be displaced from command. He says that "there is nothing left here that can be called victory", and he knows about Horus's delerium. It appears more that he knows that a Chaos-possesed Horus is a defeat all on its own, so he leaves for that reason.
Pre-Heresy:
Guilliman: **writes a better tax code**
Dorn: **makes THE best sandcastle**
Perturabo: **builds a better mousetrap**
Post-Heresy:
Guilliman: **cries into his paperwork**
Dorn: **measures the board-width**
Perturabo: **digs holes**
Iron Warrior theme is just a grungy cover of Diggy Diggy Hole.
Correct
I don't get the board width joke. Can you explain?
@Ben-jl2rh There's a spin-off of tts called HTP where the character based off Dorn measures the board width of a picnic table
@@Ben-jl2rh It MUST be done
I'm casting my vote for the blood angels but I really want the night lords to get another chance
I also want the night lords to have another go
Ava dominus nox
@@seanchilson5093 I am Alpharius
Bro I need some people to play for honor with
Would rather the night lords than the ultramarines
So, a theory I like is that Perturabo is not actually a Daemon Prince. But instead, the injury Fulgrim dealt him caused his body to degrade so much that he had to keep adding mechanical improvements to his suit to stay alive. Given the reputation the iron warriors have with how they deal with mutations and posession, I don't think Perty would accept becoming a daemon prince.
So that, or he got effected by the oblitirator virus himself. Which I'm fine with, too.
Perty, a man too petty to become a Daemon Prince
@@bobthepervyuncleExactly!
@bobthepervyuncle It's not about being petty, it's about not wanting to have to follow the orders of some demon god
I like to think that given how his men take demons and enslave them into machines, perty over time in the warp trying to be more efficient and hold to his standards claimed the warp power for his own overtime. So while he is technically a daemon primarch he's an unaligned one who took the power rather than ask for it. Imo this drive is part of why he hasn't personally left the warp for war and when he does it'll reveal him as some unholy Mish mash of warp and tech thru a form of obliterated virus tailored by him. He will be an absolut monster in appearance but a work of art from a function perspective being this unstoppable seigw engine on legs.
I prefer the idea that he actually contracted the Oblitorator Virus. So not a deamon but seeing that virus effect a primarch
Isyander never mentions that Ultramarine isn't just the singular form of the title of Robute's legion, but is a deep blue color and a mineral that used as a pigment to produce that color?
THE COLOR OF THE ULTRAMARINES IS ULTRAMARINE. There simply is no aspect of the Ultramarines that isn't Ultra.
Damn that's pretty cool
Only issue is that when I would by citadel paint, it was fairly far off the actual color of ground lapis lazuli, so maybe in lore but in real life they have a far darker side.
@@TheNehebkau Doing some surface level research online, and not having handled the stuff myself, I'll have to agree with you. But, given the chemical complexity of lazurite/ultamarine, something can be quite plausibly retconned into wh40k existence. Somebody found a recipe for darker artificial ultramarine, or a related compound, the name "ultramarine" got used for prussian blue and it stuck, the color in-universe was named after the Ultramarines, or its named after the planet Ultramar because of a unique mineral found there that is used to color Ultamarines' armor.
You manage to portray peter turbo's intense violent autism so well and keep the video so hilarious it's just a joy to watch
Horus: “hey, Perturabo, bro, remember that brother of ours with major anger issues? Go herd that obnoxiously angry cat.”
Perturabo: *sigh* “FINE…”
“I GUESS I’LL DO ALL THE WAR THEN.”
Still love that he just went off, beat the shit out of Angron and dragged him back
My vote is for the Blood Angels, they've had it rough in the lore for a hot minute while the Avenging Beans have had it REAL good comparatively.
Cuz they had a working system
Straight up
The best way to describe the difference between UM and IW is that while both legions are mirror-brilliant at logistics, UM takes advantage of specialisation to an inordinate degree, but the IW treat all their legionaries like cogs in an unstoppable war machine. The IW recruitment process is always understated in how incredible it is. Each marine is a master at firearms, logistics, architecture, siege-warfare, engineering and mathematical reasoning. They have to be, because for Peter, he needs to be able to interchange cogs in his machine if one is faulty - be it a line trooper or one of his Triarchs. And they make these marines from essentially the worst stock there is to offer. So UMs are specialists, while IWs are generalists. A UM will not under any normal circumstances, be able to garrison an entire world with a squad of marines, but any IW can, because they can do everything - they can fix the machines, fortifications and design them, work out the supply chains and calculate the optimal use of resources, calculate optimal firing patterns to conserve ammunition, etc.
The fact that the iron warriors have a little perks about their geneseed that mature faster and is low reject rate help a lot for recrutement and troops replanishement. It's sometime overlooked but thanks to that they where hable to sustain mutch more bold and effectives tactics despide the tremandous amount of death that would cripples most legions.
I'm voting for the Blood Angels, I loved them ever since I played them in Horus Heresy: Legions, the card game. Also, youtube sees this video as a game from 1995.
Legions needs a bigger player base recently got back into it and ngl its a lot of fun raven guard with their new reqork are pretty busted lmao
@@nosleepp6744And it absolutely sucks going against them now unless you have anti-stealth tech. I mean it still sucked before, but they had less ways to get stealth back onto their units before, and they didn't have the benefit of Ambush.
Corvus Corax and the Ravenguard because id love your take on Corvus' current warpy shenanigan! However as they aren't currently an option, I vote the Ultramarines. When all else fails, you want the dependability that their efficiency brings.
I vote for a White Scars/Jaghatai Khan episode
Times I've requested an episode for the Khan: 8
‘Since when was saving mankind from the darkness a sign of weakness?’ Jaghatai
We ride out
I really hope Vashtorr becomes the next chaos God and Perturabo his daemon primarch. That would be metal AF 🤘
The next Chaos God sits upon an Iron Throne, but he will be a sentinel for mankind
Literally
That would be too cool for GW to do
I get the feeling they’ve already met and it’s why Perturabo looks the way he does. From scant descriptions the man is basically a demon cyborg and that’s Vashtorrs thing. The man was essentially dying and made a deal with Vashtor in order to save his own life. Even during the Arks of Omen theirs part where Vashtor admires the way Iron Warriors work, like a well oiled machine
@@Broomer52 Nah that's lame. Better than bending to other gods, but still out of character for Perty. Man should be massive primarch/dreadnought thing, building himself up and up and up to compensate for his body dying slowly but surely
I vote for the blood angels to learn more of sanguinius. But I would LOVE to learn about the Leagues of Votann!
...An Iron Warriors joint operation with the Night Lords would be one of the worst situations to be set against: scaring the living daylights out of any defenders before these defenders get ground to mulch!
Gonna keep saying it the blood angels are them.
- Sanguinus' speech at the Infinity gate still gives chills.
-Commander Dante gained the respect of Guillaman.
-The desolation of Baal is legendary.
Not to mention Dante taking on a swarmlord
Also Dante trying to 1v1 Angron. It was not successful, but he sure tried.
Let's go blood angels
You look around at who else Horus had to lean on, half of his traitor brothers are incompetent and the other half are clinically insane. He really had no where else to trust the hard stuff to.
And then you have mortarion, who was stuck in traffic much of the Heresy
The blood angels!! blood for the God emperor! Skulls for technology! and Art... just because
My husband makes dice and I had him listen to your Chaos Gods videos. He is now trying to figure out how to put Tzeentch and a Safe for Work Slaanesh into dice form. Needless to say we both look forward for the vids and soon will join the legion. I like listening to you while playing other games or sanding dice. Throwing my hat in with the Blood Angels but hope we can circle back to the others.
I would love a Slannesh set of dice that wasn't just D6s.
So bot of the dice will be themed around Tzeentch. Because Safe for Work Slaanesh is an oxymoron, which is so Tzeentch
Absolutely gamer
Make the Tzeentch dice a sphere.
As someone who has only gotten into 40k listening to you guys, I vote blue boys (Ultramarines). I know little about them and have been trying not to spoil myself until after hearing y'all's version.
Vote blue do matter who!
34:04 minor correction, Chaos didn’t mutate him into a daemon primarch, he did it to himself in a ritual using the corpses of the imperial fists.
In a small excerpt, a space marine meets up with perturabo and he’s apparently had some character development, he’s less petulant and more calm.
BLOOD ANGELS BABY 🩸
Blood for the blood god
I love the petty squad legion, they embody my vindictive gremlin energy.
I have so much respect for someone who is also is expected to do everything and actually did something about it. I’ve never been more satisfied hearing about a fellow work horse and the immediate regret of the emperium as they realized the only ones who get it done aren’t on their side.
@@personman8734 Wait what are you saying the Heresy side of the Primarchs were the ones who got shit done? It was just Perty really.
If I remember correctly he seemed to regret the choice to join the traitors because he was STILL the unappreciated shitjobs work horse but now his coworkers AND boss are a bunch of violently partying batshit insane gremlins.
The Imperium didn't seem overly upset he dipped (more upset about the war part) but I will say the traitors DEFINITELY felt it when he left and there was the moment of "damn the guy who gets it done is gone".
BLOOD ANGEEELS! LET THE TALE OF THE SONS OF BAAL BE HEARD!
The best part about the Iron Cage is that Rogal Dorn basically did what Perturabo did to the Iron Warriors when he first met them. But instead of killing 1 out 10, Dorn killed 9 out of 10. Also the 1% you guys mention at 31:32 is the exact way Perturabo always led his legion, as mentioned when you compaired Perturabo with Guilliman. 😊
Night Lords! From Poland! But if I gotta choose anyone but Night Lords, fiiiiiine 🙄. Blood Angels. Only one good blue space marine faction
I say ultramarines to get me hyped and caught up for Space Marine 2. I imagine having the lore will make it even cooler
I'm split between voting for Blood Angels, and Smurf Boys. Because I want to see Isyander get hyped over both Primarchs.
Personally I know more about the Blood Angels than the Ultramarines so my vote is for the Ultramarines. I’d love to hear more about The Avenging Bean Counter and His Blue Boys. Plus Iysander seems really excited for them
And then sanguineaus said, "it's saguineausin time." And sanguineaused all over the bad guy. Go blood angels
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RE your conversation about the White House and fortifications, I highly suggest reading Raven Rock by Garrett Graff. Fascinating look at how the US Gov't basically "Dorn'd" 2 mountains (Raven Rock and Mt. Weather) and the improvements made to the White House for "continuity of government" stuff in the nuclear era. Raven Rock was basically discovered because a plane crashed on a nearby mountain and the "first" responders were confused why soldiers were showing up first.
Ultramarines
5:30 Now I'm just hearing the, "ULTRAAAAAAA!!" From Killer Instinct 2013 when you do an Ultra Combo finisher. 😂
GIVE ME THE BLOOD ANGELS PLS I NEED IT
BLOOOOOOOOOOD ANGELLLLLLLLSSSS
27:15 they used to, there was an entire contest between the designers of the Empire State Building and the Chrysler building on which one was taller
I love the ultra marines, I run their chapter master marneus Calgar as a commander in magic but I wanna hear about the blood angels. Tell me about my boy Dante and how he held Baal down against the tyranids
SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE SIEGE!!!!!
I live how this Google translates to Victories! Several times
I wanna give you two a very big thank you I’ve recently gone through a pretty messy breakup and between the tears and the exhaustion you two are helping immensely to keep my mind off stuff and move forward
Off topic, but I love how the world eaters ran into battle essentially crying “dad never loved me” while dad was languishing over the fact that his dad loved him but not in the way he wanted.
Big E never loved Angron and did literally everything he could to show it.
@LAHFaust his Nucerian dad loved him, but was killed when Angron was implanted with the nails
I love the idea of Abadon going in for the final battle losing really badly and Purt coming up going sit down pup and steam rolling 🤣
Love the fit and the new cut isyander! keep these bomb videos coming!
Blood angels but still need to see me scary bois
Day 10 of asking for an episode on The alpha legion
I am Alpharius, and this is a lie.
I actually really like how the iron warriors and perterabo fully fell to chaos and Perty became a deamon primarch. It shows that chaos is an unstoppable force that as soon as you work with it even once (to include to force the Deamons into machines) you are chaos’s play thing. I enjoy the idea however that perty as a deamon primarch is just a massive machine because he always cut off every chaos mutation and replaces it with metal. So perty (as a Deamon Primarch of slannesh) is just this massive robot deamon primarch thing
Chaos undivided, is what he "pledged to"
@@Admmkhoh i know. I just don’t like the idea of undivided primarchs because like…there’s only one undivided prince and the four gods looked at each other and said “never again.” And went off and made their own so how would they come together again to create several undivided primarchs
@@joeljohnston3390nah I like the idea of him being undivided as the great game players (the chaos Gods) being petulant children would never let another have a second toy. Now this thing with vashtorr though.....
@@marcus4046but do you think the four of them can team up not once not twice but three times to make 3 completely uncontrolled monsters
@@joeljohnston3390what about M'Kar? Both Kaldor Drago and Maphiston have confirmed he is a Prince of Chaos Undivided.
My favourite part of the Iron Cage is Dorn went on purpose because he realized it was the only way to convince the legion to adopt the Codex
Perty is kinda like the ultimate power tool ... as in "he's got a lot of power ... but he's about the biggest TOOL of a man you could possibly get."
... also, Ultramar, please
Iron within iron without
36:17 When he describes his face all I could think about was the attack on titan meme with the scary face
My vote is for the blood angels. They are my absolute favorite but this video has definitely made the iron warriors way more interesting to me
i would like to see a episode about the black templars
Blue Boy Scouts
Blood Angels!
Also we know if we don't vote for the ultra boys you'll do an episode for them later anyway.
I know yall might do it eventually, but I'm really looking forward to a Rylanor episode.
Blood angels
I'm voting for the blood angels, although I still would like to see the ultramarines
Day 8 of fortifying for the imperial fists the foundation has been finished and the superstructure has started the being constructed
My vote is less of a vote for the ultramarines and more a vote for the Avenging Bean Counter himself, the most depressed man in 40k
Yup people don't grasp how sad Gulliman is, he had so much hope for the advancement of the Imperium and its literally become the antithesis of what he fought for. I think the Indomitus Crusade is partially a means for him to just get away from Terra and not think about how much everything has deteriorated.
ULTRAMARINES MAY NOT BE BETER , but “they are doing their part” they got my vote❤
Blood angels! ❤️
Love the videos boys keep it up! Long form content is great while im at work. Helps the day fly by. And lets go blood angles!!!
We march for Macragge! Ultramarines!
I know yall are on a 40k kick and I'm here for it, personally, I would love it if you could cover what you know about AOS. Not many content creators for AOS, and would love to hear your humor and hot takes on it. Also AOS has some incredible minis that feel more intricate than 40k sometimes and I think yall would appreciate the art.
Ultramarines my friend! Robot Girlyman for the win!
Also, Perturabo seems to be in complete control of his Daemonhood. He doesn’t appear to lose his mind at all, and stay the same in his mind and might. He’s even buddy buddy with Vashtorr.
My vote is for Death Guard! I know they are not on the list & I know there is a video on patreon but I want it here!
im voting for the blood angles but i want to see about the space dwarfs
Peturabo has always been my favorite primarch. Vulkan a very close 2nd. Yes. I see the "ha ha" of it. Perturabo was fucking awesome until he got demon'd. Grind it out, sheer willpower and brass balls. Fkn awesome
Closest thing to the imperial guard, the real chads, from those pansies in the ceremite armor. Fook yeah
Also... come on bro
Peturabo was better than dorn. Always was.
The headspace that Peter-turbo was in at the end of the Heresy was that he would bring order to chaos where his brothers had failed, so it makes some kind of sense that he became a demon.
from iron cometh strength
from strength cometh will
from will cometh faith
from faith cometh honor
and from honor cometh IRON
this is the unbreakable litany, may it forever be so.
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT
Blood Angels for my vote! Then some Eldar or other Xenos!
The Iron Warriors didn't fall to Chaos. They turned traitor. There is a big difference.
The Iron Warriors don't serve Chaos. But it can purchase their services.
The Iron Warriors suffer occasional small mutations and corruption due to long term warp exposure, not the influence of the Chaos gods.
Robutt Girli-man is the kind of guy who you think you're pranking by ordering something same day shipping at 11:59 pm and there's a knock on the door with the package is there on your porch.
It kind of sucks that big E made the primarchs to be psychic beings but disinformed them on their powers, the warp, and the demons they were succeptible to. Even if they didnt use psyker powers like early dorn or guilliman they were essentially psychic in nature. I mean magnus and big E met way before any forces of the imperium showed up to prospero by them both reaching out through the warp.
I want the Alta Marines to win because I like hearing all of Gilman‘s nicknames
5:00 no G is good at everything . great at strategy politics and logistics . but amazing at nothing.
example the Khan is amazing with the swotd the fastest primarch bad with politics logistic and more or less strategy . " now ofc the khan be not a good strategist is still a primarch that mn there is no human comparable to him . we compare him with his brothers
I don't think Perty is a deamon prince at this point. Is there any quote in any of the books that say that outright? He isn't mutated near to any sort of point as his deamon brothers and seems to be more in a Dreadnought type machine than a deamon prince does. I'm pretty sure thats what it is at this point and needed a Dreadnought type machine after his fight with Fulgrim I belive.
Welp... 6,400 people now on a watch list... thanks L&K always wanted to meet the head of the CIA 😮💨👍
Ultramarines!
Barabas Dantioch as Peter Gibbons (had to look it up) is an all-time great fucking reference and I'm so glad to live in the timeline where someone made that joke. This is why you guys are doing so well in this WarHammin' RUclips podcast game! Damn it feels good to be a [Loyalist]!
"Monument to MALICE"
Me: *head snaps in non Canon malice god fan*
I BEG YOUR PARDON?
Oh , so im not injured by life to be compleshionist on every life way plus some ptsd , im just average Iron warrior type , thx that kind of wisdom i want to know earlier to be better
Soooo I looked up what the demonculaba is......I now regret looking up what the demonculaba is. Also go blood angels
I’m going with the ultra marines. Wanna see how hyped up Isyander can truly be about his favorite primarch and faction.
I understand the iron warriors, I have no talents, the truth is I think I have autism.
But God as my witness I swear that I will do a great job no matter the conditions.
Dorn was banging his head against a brick wall because Peterturbo politely asked him to.
Also blood angels
Binge watched all your videos of 40k and was experiencing the big sad but now doing much better 😊❤
poster boys ,poster boys , blue..... blue.... blue
or else i hope your amazon packages get delayed !!!!!
blood angel vote part 2 electric boogaloo. the Ultra marines may have the most named characters but they also have the most time in the spot light. leave em behind!
Fun fact, guilliman's first chapter of his legion was a copy of perturabo's
Blood for Sanguinius skulls for shoulder pads!
Damn, the back of every iron warrior must be so fucked up from carrying the entire heresy to this day
Gimmie the 9th Legion!
I need blue ultra bureaucrats next!!
One big, very violent therapy session is by far the best description of The Heresy
15:16
That fact about the white house made me hear the SuperAnchors/TTS Dorn "Yeeeeess." Plus the "I AM REINSTALLING THE PALACE." lines go through my head cranked to 11.