How To Waterproof a Caddx Vista!
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2022
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I'm pretty sure the blue stuff is thermal paste for the heat spreader.
Exactly!!
Yup! Couldn’t think of the name of it when filming this video lmao
Shouldn't we put the blue stuff back between vista parts for better heat conductivity? Or is it not a waterproof material?
@@shumkis I can’t speak to if it’s waterproof or not but it has essentially no effect, or possibly worse would be my guess, when it’s not touching(conducting)the metal heatsinks.
@@shumkis I can’t speak to if it’s waterproof or not but it has essentially no effect, or possibly worse would be my guess, when it’s not touching(conducting)the metal heatsinks.
Another idea is to add a bluetooth module to the flight controller and get rid of the USB wired connection once and for all. De-solder it even. Just use betaflight wirelessly on your phone or PC seems to be the better way to go. Adjust your rates in the field etc.
Great demo. 👍👍👍👍👍I hope someone will do a waterproofing of O3 air unit too. And install it on a micro drone.
Very impressive ! Great vid
Thank ya 🙌
yo troncat, love your content man. Question tho, I did this waterproofing, using the worry free, but after, my vista not coming out from low power mode and I getting no OSD in my goggles. You think it overheated with the waterproof coating ? now my fav quad is kinda ruin, I might have to change the vista unti and try again.
But what i cant find & what i need to know is, is the caddx nebula Pro camera waterproof out of the box like the dji og camera
What about lipo battery? I assume canles there are nor covered against water
Do you put the heat shields back on the vista after you waterproof it?
Revlon Nail Vernis works also. That looks thick and reduces heat transfer for heat sink =)
Yes I've heard certain nail polishes work to protect circuit boards, i've never tried any though. I use conformal coating on all of my drones to make them water "resistant", I would use something like this though to make it fully waterproof. Have been flying this on 500mw with no overheating issues yet!
Thanks for watching!
How to change the mW of the Vista? Thank you!
Hey troncat! Just wondering is there a guide for connecting an external usb to fc? Thanks mate!
Thanks for the video. Any reason you why you didn’t reapply the thermal paste and reinstall the heat sinks?
Main reason is because the heat sinks don't really fit on the vista once the worry free is applied. The thermal paste is really only going to make a difference when you have the metal shields on there.
very helpful
nice video. I was thinking, wouldn't it be easier to just put epoxy to cover up the edges of vista, (the only way water can get in) instead of all the hustle opening it up, would it over heat more or too much to be usable? What about adding an extra heatsink directly to plates to counter this. Also about the motors being waterproof, the reason they are is because the wire windings already have non conductive coating on it, but if you scratch the tiny wires it will leak a bit of current, its quite a tough coating though. Did you cover the wire solder to the motors though? My guess is this wouldn't even be a problem in fresh water, maybe some current will leak in salt water, but electricity always takes the most direct conductive route to close the circuit, that's why it will not jump through water if it has super conductive wire connection. Therefor I think it's not needed. I even dipped a 6S lipo battery with connector exposed into fresh water to test this and sure it will leak current and discharge slowly but there isn't enough conductivity to cause damage.
Yeah bro. I went this route and results are good.
Is the USB port still usable?
I don't use a gopro but I always use the footage of my o3 air unit, can I still plug it into my laptop to get the footage frok my sd card or is the seal for the usb port coated on and stuck on it? Curious on how this could work best.
Awesome. I've been using a hydrophobe frame. It's so heavy though... Would this work just costing the outside of a larger dji air unit?
You could definitely use this on the outside of an air unit and it would protect it. Im not sure if it would be completely waterproof though.
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Where can I get the screw mounts for the vista?
So the vista and the Dji pro camera are both 100% waterproof submergible works every tike with live feed ive seen a few videos of it. & ive dunked one myself but you have to plug the usb. & from what ive seen this is onlh the case in fresh water salt water is to harsh & u better do some adjustments if your in the salt water.
Can anybody say me what the name of the distanc sticks in the end for the air unit?
I am about to purchase a vista and go through this process, following your steps. Do you have any updated info, experience, tips since this was posted? Even though I had a pretty good idea already of what needs to happen, watching it in close-up, filmed and explained expertly was super helpful. Thank you so much!
Yes! Vistas come waterproof from the factory
@@MrFadjule I ended up coating my vista and it’s been dunking for 7 months now.
14:45 isnt it a thing that the unit is putting down the output power automatically when there is no goggles connected or the quad is unarmed? I thought that its locket to 5 mbits, sure it gets hot but nor so hot as that you could destroy anything (atlease unarmed/no goggles on the bench)
not sure about fpv worryfree but kotking was made to dissipate heat aswell
How much have you used drone as it has no heat sink on it now and you have pretty much insulated it so it should be getting hotter than before just wondering if it's going to overheat and burn out very interested in this being a success as I want to put one on a submarine
This is a drone I use here and there on special projects (typically, flights in rain or when water is involved)
I don’t use it all the time, but I’ve never had issues with overheating.
If you plug it in and just let it sit, you’ll have overheating issues.
If you plug it in and fly, you’ll be good.
If you’re putting this on a submarine and it’s going to be submerged in water I doubt it will overheat.
16:55 the windings LOOK like bare wire but they actually have a coating on them..!
that blue shit is good youll want all of that in there. its thermal paste like what you use on pc mother boards. id fill it with thermal paste rather than the coating i also think its oil based also if air cant get in or out water cant either so the suction is good.
You'll want the thermal paste on there if you have the metal shields on, yes. I wouldn't just put waterproofing over it though.. I can't imagine that would stick at all or truly protect the board even if it did.
I also don't think it would be wise to only use thermal paste to waterproof something like this. In a good crash into water I could see the thermal paste easily coming off enough to fry your vista lol.
FPV Worry Free & Kotking adhere to the board and aren't coming off in a crash.
@@TRONCATFPV sorry man was quick reply didn't realize you were making it naked
How did you enable the crosshair in the center of your glasses screen?
I'm pretty sure its just enabled in betaflight
@TRONCAT FPV ok i see thanks What else should I include in there in addition to the default values on the OSD
Is there any other way to protect the connector to the PC without having to solder it back every time? I’m not planning to purposely throw my drone into water, but I want to waterproof for reasons like flying by a waterfall and some drops of water might get onto the drone
For something like that I would just coat the board in conformal coating and use a plug to cover the USB port.
You can also add Bluetooth to the flight controller and then if something happened to the USB, you can still connect to the FC via the speedybee app. I have a video coming out soon on how to do this 👍
Hope this helps!
@@TRONCATFPVdid you make a video? Could you link me to it?
The blue is thermal paste and probably shouldn’t be taken off, did you vista eventually overheat?
I haven't had any issues with the vista overheating. Thing still works great!
As with almost every VTX, if it just sits there powered on long enough with no airflow i'm sure it will overheat.
@@TRONCATFPV oh nice, that’s good!
Did you deliberately leave a little trace of the blue paste? why don't you clean it up?
the vista is already waterproof, just need to add abit on the connector part, i have two of waterproof drones for 6 months and never had a problem
Which connector part exactly?
Im new to fpv and rc and don't really understand what people are saying.
I have the caddx polar vista, same as you I believe
How did you change the caddx to low power mode for when youre not flying ?
in the goggles settings menu make sure that "Low power when disarmed" is turned on. If you have the vista configured correctly with your FC, it should be able to recognize when the drone is armed and will automatically switch the power mode 🙌
was not the air unit suppossed to be or come already waterprooof ? i remember seeing someone testing it out and is waterproof as it comes
The air unit may be water resistant, I don't think its waterproof though.
Brandon put a Vista in water and it still worked, not sure about the normal Air Unit. The O3 is definitely not fully waterproof out of the box, people killed them in water already.
@@razorblade7108 o3 cannot be waterproofed, vistas pretty much are... Fat units dont think si either
@@guatemalamini The O3 can be waterproofed. Quite a few people have done it in different ways. I'm currently trying my own way, but I probably killed a camera or it's cable. The unit itself seems fine so far and I guess the camera just has more need for cooling than I thought, so it's better to put thermal paste or thermal glue inside instead of lots of rubber sealant. The braided cable is a pain in the ass and so is that little sponge below the MIPI cable on the air unit, but covering it all with rubber sealant does the job. Others pour epoxy into the components or create sealed bags with butyl rubber. It's actually the camera that has cooling issues when waterproofed, the air unit is completely normal even with the vents covered. Since everything inside is fully packed, there is not much airflow through the vents anyways and most heat is dissipated through the metal case.
@@razorblade7108how the heck can yall afford to do experimental waterproofing on >100$ cameras!?? 😅😮
Isn't the vista waterproof already
I doubt it. It's probably water "resistant" to a degree but definitely not submerge-able
Do u sell waterproof quad?
Nice Tutorial!! It must be cool to do the same with a Dji 03, but is it possible? 🤔
You can do it with the o3 and must but the caddx is already pretty waterproof so this is unnecessary.
Both the 03 and the Vista are waterproof from the factory
Wait, I thought the Vista and O3 were basically already water proofed?? I've conformal coated drones using both Vista and O3 and have had them come out from deep in the snow with no problem. My O3 got submerged in water too and had no issue.
They're water resistant, not waterproof
What are your GoPro hero 8 cinelog25 settings?
I’ll be covering my GoPro settings in a future video on my “real estate FPV” playlist 🤙
now air unit 03 ;)
So I got an eachine wizard x220s and when I plugged it in and turned it on it started smoking and there were sparks going everywhere I asked for a refund but the place I bought it from wouldn’t give me one is everything on the drone fried or can I fix it this is my first drone so I have no idea what to do
It sounds like the flight controller is fried and you'll most likely need a new one. The exact same thing happened to me on my first build.
Highly suggest getting a smoke stopper to prevent shorts: www.racedayquads.com/products/jhemcu-xt30-xt60-smoke-stopper?_pos=1&_sid=765a29dcb&_ss=r&aff=58
@@TRONCATFPV do you know what flight controller I can get to fix it with. can I use any of the 4s brushless flight controllers?
I had a caddax underwater for about 4 hours. Somehow it still worked after! I think it was due to the battery unplugging before crashing into a river.
yea a lot of times as long as theres no power going through it when its dunked it will be fine if it is able to dry completely.
The vista is fully submergible there is video of brandon fpv dunking a vista in water with the dji camera it stays on crystal clear they are already waterproof but i am not sure about the nebula pro. Ive been trying to figure that one out for a few days now. No luck
Thats thermal paste, designed to transfer the heat away into the metal heat sink to dissipate the Heat
Great
What is your screwdriver?
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@@TRONCATFPV 10x :)
does your drone still work? I'm interested in longevity of this treatment? you mentioned your analog drone from a year ago but didn't mention if you had it under water a few times and whether it still works? same question for the vista, I heard on another video the vista is naturally water proof already, what do you think about that? how is this digital drone doing after a few weeks? Thanks for your great video. subbed now
Yes this drone is still going strong and performs great. Also, I have some components from the older build that have kotking on it that is still waterproof and still works.
Unless you try to remove the waterproofing it lasts a while.
As far as the vista being waterproof, I don't think it's completely waterproof, its probably water resistant but if its left submerged for a while I don't see a vista surviving underwater. If it were waterproof I think they would want to advertise it as such.
DJI conformal coats their boards. They are ‘water resistant’. With that said I’ve flown the potato in full on downpours with no issues 🤷♂️. Great vid. I’m working on waterproofing a whoop right now.
@@SkeezyFPV I doubt you will see this as it is under a 6 month old comment, but I thought I was the only person who flew his DJI potato in heavy rain! It's about the only thing its good for! Lol! I'm totally kidding. I love the DJI Potato. It is the drone that got me into this wonderful hobby!
that blue shit is thermal paste,its there to spread the heat from the components out to the heatsinks and vice versa.heat maybe a problem when u suffacate the board with the waterproofing?
Yes I know what it is lol, forgot the name of it when filming.
I haven’t had any issues yet and have been flying on 500mw. I’m sure if I let it sit idle with a battery plugged in it would overheat just like a normal naked vista.
😮😅 that’s insanely awesome. I was clenching my butt cheeks so bad I almost took the truck seat with me. Lol
Instead of pulling it completely apart, just make all the connections, incl usb (with some vaseline to keep the stuff out) and just dunk the whole thing in the conformal coating. Thats how the electronics industry does it
I honestly think you might be onto something because I remember watching an old video from cyclone FPV where he was waterproofing and OG air unit and he sort of basically what you are describing
Guys, don’t remove the blue thermal paste! You‘ll ruin your vista. Just put the coating all around it, it‘ll shield the water
vistas are waterproof already
For sure for sure? I'm not the kinda person that can afford to be wrong 😅
@@RandoManFPVits not, only water resistant
Worry free says the vista is water proof as is
As far as I know they are water resistant but not completely waterproof. I don't think a vista can or should be completely submerged for long. The pads on the outside are exposed and water will most likely ruin components over time.
This method (although it takes a while) ensures it is completely submergible and nothing will erode.
Lucky
In test the vista are already waterproof
Water-resistant yes.
Waterproof no.
@@TRONCATFPV I try to avoid testing mine 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
but i think you have significantly impaired heat transfer
correct, when you remove the heat transfer it will get hot faster. I haven't had any issues though. Just don't let your drone sit idle on the ground for too long! I wouldn't do that even with the heat transfer.
I don't think what you did is a good idea. The blue stuff is thermal compound that keeps the chips from overheating when flying. You should just waterproof the outside of your camera box so the moisture would not come inside.
Better than 25mW is to turn on "auto temp control" which is like PIT mode for vista as long as quad is disarmed. I'd also mention that there are coaxial cables for vista camera that don't have the connecting wires exposed so much. Unfortunately online shops often don't show the correct image, but some sell the protected ones. If not, I would use some electrical tape.
Yeah, don’t remove the thermal paste lol. Simply coat around the thermal paste. Heat must be transferred.
I don't think thermal paste is going to stick to this very well lol. In a good crash I could totally see water lifting up the thermal paste and thus ruining the equipment.
This has to be a wind up
Why take all the glue off instead of just applying watercoat. Makes no difference. No need 😂
It does make a difference actually.
Not only are you saving weight but when the metal shields are on you can’t get waterproofing in between the boards in the middle where the ribbon cable lies. Water can get there through the 20x20 mounting holes.
I’d rather take the time to disassemble and do it right than worry about burning out a vista 😉
Ohhhhhh gotcha bro bro 🤟
Did anyone gonna tell him the vista is waterproof to begin with?
The vista is not waterproof, It’s water resistant.
If they are completely waterproof from the get-go, I’m shocked that nobody has advertised it as such.
The method in this video makes the vista completely waterproof and submergeable.
You realy put your lipo under wather? Battery like your is not waterproof an can blowup.
lol, your LiPo will not blow up if it is in water.
I have a couple waterproof drones and none of the LiPo's have had issues when submerged.
@@TRONCATFPV If you have damaged insulation or pressure forces water into the cells, then at best the battery will swell, at worst it can catch fire, ruclips.net/video/z02PS-byF4I/видео.html. you can get lucky 100 times and not in 101, why tempt fate?
If you're flying with damaged equipment you're going to have problems, thats a no brainer.
If you have a LiPo thats in good condition, it is waterproof and will be fine. In the video you linked he demonstrates this.
LiPos have to be airtight, otherwise they would burn. Airtight is even better than waterproof. You only have to worry if the LiPo is punctured, but then it will burn anyways.
Nice one! Thanks for the great tutorial using my product! I’ll add this to the how to playlist. It just ended up in my feed somewhere. For the motor bearings I’m working on a product that you can spray into the motors while they are running to clean off any gunk in the motor windings and re lube the bearings. What is your instagram so we can keep in touch?
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It's solid stuff dude!
I'd love to check out the motor bearing lube & cleaner once it's available. I have motors that I'm hesitant to use since theres gunk in em lol.
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