What coffee machine to buy under $1k in 2024.
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- There are so many new coffee machines coming out these days and a lot of them look the same, but under the hood, they are not and so in this video, I'll take you through all my favorite or potentially favorite espresso machines you can find that are under $1k.
Here are some links to the machines for you if you're interested in researching further.
Stay tuned for the next video: What coffee machine to buy in 2024 from $1-3k
PicoPresso
www.wacaco.com/collections/pi...
Flair Espresso (Flair Signature / Flair 58 electric)
flairespresso.com/
Delonghi Stilosa
www.delonghi.com/en-au/ec230-...
Breville Bambino
www.breville.com/au/en/produc...
Gaggia Classic Evo Pro
www.gaggia.com.au/product/cla...
Quick Mill Pippa (Nera -black with timber)
www.quickmill.it/en/products/...
Turin Legato
www.turingrinders.com/product...
Lelit Anna
www.lelit.com/product/anna-pl...
Rancilio Silvia
www.ranciliogroup.com/rancili...
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I fitted a PID to my classic evo Pro two weeks ago, and I can't speak highly enough of this machine. Streaks above my old breville dual boiler
This video was very helpful! 👍🏽
Picopresso rules the world. Brilliant design. Outstanding results.
For anyone based in Australia, I recommend to buy Breville dual boiler when they are on promotion at A$1000 level, which is quite often and is till going on some big retailers and forget about anything else until it breaks. I don't really understand their pricing strategy for different countries haha. I wish I have kept it before leaving Austraila! Only downside I can find is that the size can be a little bit wide for some kitchen. In terms of customizability for shots, I don't think there is a comparable machine unless you go for DE level machine.
The Gaggia looks like an excellent machine, specially with the Gagguino mods that can take even the old Gaggia Classic's and turn them into something a lot more like a Decent.
That's incredible potential for an espresso machine that can be found second hand for less than $500.
Gaggia and Boilergate are a fact unfortunately I am one of those affected, sad I really like Gaggia but don't buy one before they remove the coating in the boiler
Thanks for this! We watched it last night and it reminded me to heat my portafilter - which I just did and the coffee was delicious!!!! We have the Breville dual boiler that is on its last legs I think.
You're welcome!! 🤗 Yeh, there are a lot of great machines out now so it depends on what is most important to you like aesthetics, advanced functions, size and shape and stability and longevity.
Hello!
Thanks for your great videos
is it possible to use this MiiCoffee Apex for a small cafeteria, making up to 100 caffe a day, or any of the other machines you mentioned in the video?
The Gaggia is such an amazing machine after you upgrade to a good bottomless and vst basket. Also a 9 bar spring. Easy upgrades. Been using it for years and no desire to upgrade.
Is it fine without a PID? Does temperature surfing get annoying or do you not bother with it anyways? Just curious because I want to get my first espresso machine but I’m not sure how essential a PID is or not.
Great video and it's also good to hear an Australian accent doing sleep professional videos. I've been wanted lucky people that bought a sunbeam and have the longevity and good coffee too. Do you find much difference between Breville and Sunday?
Thanks! 🙌🙏 Yes I do find the Breville machines to be better than the sunbeams overall. Especially the dual boiler and Bambino. The Breville grinders are much better too.
I sure hope you can review the Turin Legato soon, I'm really interested in your personal opinion of it!
Don't expect much support if the Turin goes wrong, their website is full of broken links for international sellers. Maybe they are getting setup but not a great sign.
Another great video covering the entry level machines.
The Breville DBD is definitely the smart choice in Australia. I know plenty of people who have had theirs for upwards of 10yrs with regular cleaning & filters. Sure the O-rings need replacement every three years but otherwise are very durable. The biggest drawback is that they are quite a big machine if you want to keep it in the kitchen…
True! They aren't a small footprint. 👌
The US version of the Evo has a 9 bar spring, and all over I think the group head is now brass only (no chrome coating) and the porta filter is solid steel, no chrome coating. I have an Super-Auto Gaggi (hate it) and the DeLonghi 3420 (love it) but I am going to wait 6 months or so and see what the feed back is on the Turin model, thats a steal of a deal. Thanks mate
Yeh I am so excited for the Turin! Can't wait to get my hands on it.
Great review. My nespresso pod machine just died (steam wand still working). Currently using the steam wand with my Picopresso. For me the Bambino plus would be better than the base model as my wife would be absolutely against learning to manually steam milk. Whatever I get would have to have an auto milk steaming function uneforetunately. The Turin Legato does pique my interest though, looking forward to seeing your review on it if you do end up getting your hands on one.
Yes, that's a good combo: Pico and old steam wand! 👌 I'm sad to hear that about your wife refusing to learn milk. Save yourself $200 and just make your wife her coffee instead. I do that and it brings us closer. Plus, I can send a message when I'm mad by not making a coffee! 😅🤗
Hello! Thank you for your review. I’m in fact looking to purchase a new coffee machine to replace my delonghi (broken as expected). Wondering if you had also looked into gaggia’s expresso models which come with PID and pre infusion? Would you still think the classic model is still a better choice?
Do you mean the super automatic machines?I think the other Gaggias are still good but all appliance machines are risky, although you should get 7-10 years from the super automatics. Jura might be slightly easier to use.
I'm fond of this Ultima Cosa espresso machine I've been using. May you review it sometime? I'm curious of your thoughts
Yes interesting looking machine! I can't get them here in Australia. It seems they only ship to USA/CAN but it looks sleek and with all appliances you need to be aware they can just die at anytime (hopefully while still under warranty) and the money isn't worth it to repair it.
Gaggia classic pro with pid mod. It beats every other machine. Hands down. Profitec, rocket and others are very expensive to maintain and repair. Don't bother. Best part about Gaggia is that the online community. Your every question will get answered. No matter how silly or tough.
Hi can you please do a review of the automatic espresso machine...
Sunbeam origins machine is pretty good value, dual thermo block, PID controlled, 58 mm group head, inbuilt conical burr grinder, auto dosing, timed extraction, etc. on special $764 at Myer
The dual thermoblock Sunbeams don't get a lot of attention (probably not available outside Australia the way Breville is). Like you say - fast heat up, PID, steam as you extract, cool-touch manual steam arm and REALLY nice portafilters. Actually really well designed inside - separate compartments with the 2 pumps at the bottom, electronics in the centre (with the water tank almost wrapping around it to keep cool), and the thermoblocks up the top with a lot of thermal mass around the group-head.
My first question is: Are you going to knock the cup over next to your right arm???? Great video. Always enjoy your enthusiasm and down to earth explanations!! Cheers
Hasn't happened yet! 😅
The Turin Legato is sold under several brand names, it is manufactured by a Chinese manufacturer that supplies several dealers with the same machine.
Turin value is amazing can't wait to see them hit Australia
Yeh me either! 🙌
I've never seen a Rancilio Silvia for $999 or equivalent unless it was a modded one with a PID installed. Almost all of them in the UK are between GBP450 - GBP550. The Quick Mill UK price at its lowest is around GBP550 and can go up to GBP700 or more depending where you look.
That's great prices. It's probably the exchange rate that bumps it up in US and then again for AUS. I might have to move to England! 😅👌
About the GAGGIA I heard in a video that the upgrade was the portafilter, i dont know if the material or what, and for the USA machine they ad a spring to get a stable 9 bars. The other thing was the head shower i think change the material. I would like to know if they add pre-infusion. Thanks for the videos Ryde.
Hey Ricky! No they didn't add preinfusion but you can hack it by slightly opening the steam valve as you start your extraction.
But you're right about the other stuff, the materials are improved. The temperature is much more stable but not perfect.
I’ve upgraded to Gaggia evo and I like everything about it even without modding but the boilergate issue is really a disappointing issue, I have not seen any particles yet but I am expecting them, if so I would replace the boiler with the old uncoated one. That’s all
You also have to replace the group to the old version to prevent galvanic corrosion
@@haydenwindmiller8931 is keeping the current group has bad impact on health?
@@haydenwindmiller8931 it would be much annoying if I have to, I think changing the group head is not necessary especially if I am using filtered water, is it?
Great video. You've got the Flair in the links, but it's not mentioned in the video? What are your thoughts on that one, please?
I'm pretty keen on getting a manual machine.
And on that note, would you say the PicoPresso makes the same level of quality as something like the Gaggia?
Thanks.
Oh it may have accidentally been cut for time but I did have a section on the flair series and I really rate them. Far and away the best value is the flair 58 Electric and I did a video reviewing that. I really loved the process. 🤟
The Picopresso makes a very similar extraction to the Gaggia and for the price I think it's amazing and unbeatable quality.
Thanks for the reply. Think I need to decide between the PicoPresso or go wild and get the Flair haha
In my opinion, if you enjoy a more traditional shot, you will probably like the pico. If you like more control and better workflow, get the flair.
I have the gaggia and the flair 58 and i can tell you that i have loved the espresso that ive gotten from the flair. I find myself almost also choosing the flair over the gaggia now unless i want a flat white. The workflow, the design, the satisfaction all for me make the flair super worth it. Not to mention with the flair and the pressure gauge, you can follow alot of modern espresso recipes and experiment with your own.
@@nicktaylor4642 thanks for the reply, super interesting.
I've seen the Pico now has a gauge available too. So I think I'm leaning that way as there's around a $400 difference in cost haha.
That said, I am keen on the Flair. Why do they makes it so hard to choose haha.
@@tomrender89 oh nice, i did not know that, then with that being said its probably more of a affordable vs workflow. Both offer great convenience and the pico is super portable. For me i was debating a few manual espresso brewers but workflow is such an important part for me and being able to have a machine that is manual and can also plug in to preheat in 5 minutes and have a portafilter that also uses all the accessories that I have for my gaggia. It was an easy decision and one that i dont regret. I am completely biased to say flair haha but either or are a great choice. Also flair has a refurbished section on their website for discounted machines
Turin is the house brand of Espresso Outlet here in the US. The exact same unit is being sold elsewhere as the MiiCoffee Apex, Gemilai Espresso, and others. The price is certainly outstanding, as well as the feature set, but I have serious concerns about quality and reliability on what is essentially a rebranded model. In this price range, the Gaggia really is the way to go. It could be a great way to get into home espresso, or it could be the one and only machine you would ever need. And you're right, the mod community are really welcoming and helpful.
Thanks for sharing! I too worry about longevity of this machine and I guess only time will tell, but for a lot of people who need short term convenience over long term reliability, the Turin could work.
@@Rydecoffeecoach Several people have been calling the Legato a "Gaggia Killer" but I think the real target is aimed at appliances like Breville/Sage. For the same money you get something that appears like a "real" espresso machine, with tons of features that make it easier to use. And if that's true, reliability becomes less of an issue. As you say, time will tell.
@@tomscott4438 yeh it's definitely one to watch.
why no mention of the fully manual levers, Leverpresso Pro, Flair 58 or the Robot?
I think it got cut due to time. I did review Flairs but not sure what happened. I don't rate the robot unfortunately, I've just never had the best results on it, comparatively. Same with the Rok.
So am I right in saying you don't need a Gagguino mod for the evo to cut off flow as it does it by itself but you do "need" it for temp control?
The Gagguino is more like a computer system to controll all sorts of variables. But if you just want to control the temp, you can just install a PID mod. And I think the EVO has much better temp stability than its predecessor but yeh, if you want complete control you'll need PID.
@@Rydecoffeecoach that's not what I mean, as for short size, do you need external devices like a timer or indeed a Gagguino? As you mentioned it cuts off flow automatically
I bought a solis grind and infuse last month and have been struggling to get it dialed in. To make matters worse, there’s not a large community for this brand in the coffee world to try and troubleshoot
Sorry to hear that. Have you tried calibrating the grinder? It might be a bit out.
Hi Ryde. What do you think of Rocket espresso compared to profitec? Appreciate your thoughts.
Both are great machine manufacturers but which two machines do you want to compare? I think Profitec gives you more bang for your buck until you compare Cinquantotto and 700pro then they are probably on par.
But Appartmento vs 400 or something and I'll choose the Profitec just because Rocket has a lot less features.
@@Rydecoffeecoach thanks Ryde. I was leaning towards the apartamento because of its size since I live in a condo. But after seeing the profitec go and 300 it kinda gave me some thoughts. Given its size and still uses the 58 protafilter.
The Appartmento is a beautiful looking machine but you get a lot more features from the Go and depending on where you live it's a lot cheaper.
There is a LOT of 'buzz' surrounding the HiBrew H-10A. I have it in my shopping cart for $273. I would deeply appreciate guidance before pulling the trigger. Any thoughts? Thank you, from Andy in OR
I haven't tested it but it's got enough power to extract a great coffee, has a 58mm portafilter and temp stability.
The only risk is that it might not last but unfortunately there is no evidence to prove that except time itself.
If there's an extended warranty you can purchase, do that. 👌
@@Rydecoffeecoach I worry about the HiBrew electronics. I purchased a DeLonghi Stilosa for $50 a month ago and I use it several times a day. It is good for what it is, but very limited in its abilities. Now that I know I will use a machine daily, it makes sense to upgrade at some point but... so many choices! Thank you for your helpful video.
I'm going to assume you've never used a bambino. It doesn't matter how long you wait. Nothing is going to get hot without pulling a shot. There is absolutely no active heating for the group head. Also, the steaming is better and faster on the stock Breville Bambino Plus as it has a 4-hole steam wand and everyone who's done a review, including James Hoffman, has pointed out how amazing the Bambino Plus steams milk.
Mother's Day sale drop the price $100 down to $350 USD and I snagged one because it also comes with a stainless steel portafilter, a better tamper and that stock for hole steam wand and on top of it all the ability to do auto milk if I don't have time. There is nothing stopping you from texturing your own milk and it works beautifully because they give you a decent angle to work with even though you only get the one angle.
I'm 63 retired like simple and basic quality build and performance. Keep it simple stupid type of thinking. Gaggia classic plus changed the spring to 9 bar , rocky grinder good scale time more tamper and distributer, bottomless portafilter, and upgraded baskets. I'm happy ass Hell. Did it all for 12 hundred dollars.
Yep, can't really go wrong with that setup! 👌
@@Rydecoffeecoach I'm just happy it does work so well. Fresh beans and alot of practice. And what do you know I'm a home batista lol.
The interesting thing in Hungary Lelit Victoria is under 1k and the Ranchilio is over 1k. I will go with Lelit
Yeh so bizarre, but Lelit is great so you can't go wrong.
La Marzoccos are appliances as well, according to the definition of that word.
Profitec Go - don‘t look further, next budget needs to be 3-4 times bigger for improvement (except you need a second boiler, the it‘s like 2k)
I thought for sure it would be on the list. Love my GO
People keep bringing it up. Is it really under $1k? If so, then yes of course it should be on this list. It's on my next list $1-3k cos in Australia it costs $2k.
@@Rydecoffeecoach in US you get it for just under 1k, see Wholelattelove. In Europe anyway..
@Rydecoffeecoach yeah man $950.00 US. Solid machine 💪
@el_dani @bennymozzarella1605 Yeh, I hate that about international markets, just changing the price drastically to fit the market. For $950USD ($1400AUD) is a great price! in Australia they whack an extra $600 on for fun I guess (market size is small so maybe thats what causes it) and this puts it into a different bracket where it loses ground vs other machines with more capabilities. The Breville Dual Boiler is reverse situation though, cheap in Australia and expensive everywhere.
What about Profitec GO
People keep asking this, is it really under $1k? In Australia it's 2k so it appears in my next vid $1-3k.
In a "typical" home, four people: parents and two coffee drinking children .. $999 Breville Touch. From pushing the button on to having a latte in under 2 minutes, skill sets from novice to expert, obviously grinder included and integrated.
Here's my experience from so-called experts steaming milk .. they never get the temperature correct not even close. Sure it's easy to foam half-arsed milk.
The next step to have any real noticeable taste changes pushes you into the thousands. $400-$1K+ grinders and products like Profitec, Decent Espresso, etc.
No love for rok presso sir?
Unfortunately I haven't had a great time with the Rok. I don't mind it but I just like the other machines out there similar to it a lot better. I do like some things about the Rok but I don't love love the coffee from it. 😢
Bambino +,niche zero,ultimate combination for around 1k ,no surfing
Breville can last 20 years. Mine is nearly 11 years old, and never needed any service.
is the gaggia boiler safe?
Yes it should be. It's Teflon coated so it should last for decades without corroding.
When you Google it you’ll see that many people are reporting the boiler’s Teflon coating flaking, so I’m just waiting a little for some news or something that they would fix it. It’s quite unfortunate that’s it’s almost a perfect machine for the price but it had to be held back by a crappy boiler.
@@Abdullah-cj2mh yes there was one batch through whole lotta latte which had flaking but that was a particular date 6/11/2023 but I haven't heard of any more.
I think the ECM Casa V and the Profitec Go should have been included. I have the ECM and am verry happy with it.
Yep they both make the list from $1k+. Not sure what country you're in but if you can get the Profitec Go for under $1k you should definitely get it! They cost $2k in Australia.
1k USD or 1k AUD ? Make your mind up
😅 it's not that I'm not making my mind up, I'm trying to cover both types of audience. You see, from my experience posting videos for the last two years, I've learned that nobody really pays proper attention to the currency so if I talk in Aussie dollars, US residents think I'm talking USD.
So, to help out everyone I've kept it within the range of under 1k USD. I really don't know why that bothers you though.