You are The Man, Stephen! At 56 I take pride in being open to letting anyone regardless of age teach me something. I find the more I check my ego the more I learn.
@@luisutil9070I am probably picking up a kit very soon and starting to play. Day one isn’t here yet. I am 59 years old. How’s that for a late serious start?
FINALLY!!! You have no idea how much I have searched to find someone showing on how to hold the sticks. And if you look at how other drummers are holding them, they all have their own personal style....
I've come to find there isn't a right way. Cuz they all say one thing. They say do this, and do do that. And than you watch them do exactly what they say not to. They talk about using fingers.not using fingers. Only using wrists etc. it just seems everyone does it differently. After 20 years I finally have found my real grip.but my hands just aren't shaped to hold it how most would say your supposed to
The thing I have found is that you have to learn to hold the sticks many different ways in many different contexts. This video is really solid advice and you should always be trying to apply the principles but you need to be able to do American and French and everything in between. I have recently been trying to force the most French grip position I can on myself as I play and it has really helped me even though it has been like learning to play the drums again.
I have very flexible thumbs which are not good for pinching and holding things. I hadn’t heard of having the fulcrum more at the base of the middle finger. Just trying it out, I really like it! I lately have been kind of worried that my potential on the drums is limited due to my autonomy, but this may be some crucial information to keep improving.
21:52 “The Motherload” by Mastodon. That’s one of my goals. It’s fast and busy. It boggles my mind that the drummer plays and sings the lead vocal at the same time since the drum track alone is challenging to play.
Years ago a drummer taught me a technique that completely stifled my progress and I couldn't get past it. This makes waaaaay more sense excited to pick up drumming again and try it. Also sidenote, it's just like tennis more control comes from looser strokes rather than gripping harder.
Not sure why the negative comments but thank you so much for this educational video to the negative comments make your own video if your so great at this then we can compare...he is explaining for us just learning so more info is better than less....
always wanted a drum kit, grabbed 1 a few days ago. so here I am looking into every type of drumming basics i can find. my end goals are songs like Lux Eterna by Metallica. great video and thanks for your efforts.
Great advice. I'm a multi instrumentalist, composer, producer, started with buying some drums for friends to record on, now I got curious and started playing. I work on a pad a lot. It's really interesting to get into how drums work and developing independence and all that, even if I only play for fun, right. No particular song, I just wanna be able to swing like Louis Bellson ... not much to ask right ... 😅
You know what Im not a drummer by any means at all. Im just bass player and a noise guy. I decided to take drums seriously in my jams, Ive only been practicing a couple days off this vid on a practice pad and I gotta say. I just gotta out of jam and heard things out of myself on the kit I havent done before! Thank you. You made it less overwhelming and i didnt have to sift thru a bunch of bs to get there. I still sort a suck but Im going to keep at. I still lost my sticks but I did it alot less, I was able to go a bit longer too without splitting a stick.
The point you make about practicing air drumming and creating artificial rebound is very practical because sometimes, you might have to play on another kit with a snare drum that someone tuned super low with practically NO rebound. It was impossible to anything subtle or play double strokes on. RLLK? nope impossible to play on that snare lol, made me sound like a complete beginner lol.
i've not played drums in 15 years so was just double checking i had it right, seems i had a good teacher :) just got a electric kit, one thing that im having to get used to is the rubber feeling of the cymbals the end goal is something slipknot possibly 3 nil lmao high aspirations n that lol need to get and learn double bass tho lol
I just got a pad and sticks. Trying to learn grips and getting comfortable with the sticks and learning paradiddles. My weak hand is my right. I’m left handed.
Savior by Rise Against . My kick doubles seam to lag the hands and just can’t get the timings synced at a slow tempo it’s ok but the faster I go it falls apart.
I’m confused. Last year you taught about using the first finger as the fulcrum to be very fast (e.g. blast beats). Then you teach the middle finger as fulcrum. Is one preferred over the other for some reason? Or are they both simply used for different dynamics and feels?
I feel like its sounding good but it actually isnt when i play. I often have like a little break in my beats which sounds really weird. Also im often loosing my sticks i hope this will help
I can't tell you how, but when I began playing in High School in the 90s so much was just natural and obvious (common sense?) to me on guitar and drums both with no instruction. I figured everything out on my own. So for me it was always strange and hard to grasp the idea that for other people it wasn't obvious. So I was never able to teach anyone else. I didn't have the patience. These days I have a bit more than I did. So much is in the wrist for both of these instruments. If you aren't relaxing you aren't going to play well.
Exactly. And then states that "There's a whole video on my channel about why middle finger is better" and then i can't find it, because it seems to be hidden in some arbitrary lesson.
Brother you talk too much. Less talk and get to the practical points where you demonstrate, we don't want to listen to you too much but we want to learn from your demonstration
I had the same issue as others here. You come across as a really nice guy and it’s great content, but you need to stick to the bare essentials. SOOOO many RUclipsrs talk and talk before getting to the subject and it just makes me switch off and look for another video. I stuck with this one purely because it seems to be the ONLY one that addresses “grip”. If you edit this down, I think you’ll get a better response. Oh, and thank you for making the effort in the first place. 😎
Minute after mimute after mimute of taling without saying anything. Typical youtube fluff.. "You can do this....nicoteyte can help" This fake self help bs of drummers is just the worst
What i don't like about this video, to give some constructive criticism: The critique: Thumbnail showing us a middle finger grip instead of pointer, but you never acknowledged it properly or addressed why. You simply referred to "some" arbitrary other video, where you supposedly talk about it in detail. No links provided, nothing. I've watched not all, but most videos in the "Hand Technique" playlist that made sense from thumbnail or title. None of them talk about that. That's what i don't like and feel very strongly about. You basically change a big part in hand/grip technique, expect us to follow through on a "Trust me bro" basis, without explaining anything. Constructive Feedback: Provide proper links if you have something covered that demands an explanation, so we can follow you not on a "Trust me bro" basis, but on the basis of determining for ourselves if that makes sense to us. I like doing stuff, when i understand the WHY behind it. Most people do, actually. And to follow up on this, i also tried that other grip. Doesn't feel like it changes anything, really. So the explanation of the WHY would really help to understand if there's an actual reason or if it's just something to be "different/unique/edgy" in any way. So in total: - Provide links to stuff you are not willing to explain in the video you mention it, no matter what the reason might be. (Bonuspoints / Alternative: Show on the thumbnail what's actually part of the video. Don't make a thumbnail with one grip being ok ✅and another that isn't ❌, that doesn't even get explained in the video itself. Keep it about the video.) - Explain at least in a TLDR / short version why we should do something. It's fine to have it explained more detailed in another video, but give us something to follow you when you are the only person on earth i've seen so far, making a change to grip like that. And without explanation, it's just something many people (and i've looked through the comments, a lot of people wonder about the same thing) are not willing to follow. Over 100 big people on this platform trying to teach drums. 1 of them saying that another finger is better, without explanation, just a thumbnail that heavily suggests that and one sentence on the "just trust me" basis. That's just not the way to go. The rest of the video is fine. Different thumbnail, explaining the middlefinger instead of pointer and the video would be great. Now it's just confusing and feels like only half the video.
Instead of writing this diatribe you could have searched middle finger grip and found his video within seconds like I did. ruclips.net/video/4oktd85wPt0/видео.htmlsi=e8ypLfBXcpgIXo9m
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You are The Man, Stephen! At 56 I take pride in being open to letting anyone regardless of age teach me something. I find the more I check my ego the more I learn.
🎯THIS!
Day one with a pad and 2 sticks. Every song is a song I cannot play yet 😄
How's your progress looking? Hope you didn't give up!
You and me 😀
awesome
I've been playing on and off for 30 years and I still can't play a full song perfectly 😂 ... I'm only starting to take it super seriously now at 40...
@@luisutil9070I am probably picking up a kit very soon and starting to play. Day one isn’t here yet. I am 59 years old. How’s that for a late serious start?
FINALLY!!! You have no idea how much I have searched to find someone showing on how to hold the sticks. And if you look at how other drummers are holding them, they all have their own personal style....
I've come to find there isn't a right way. Cuz they all say one thing. They say do this, and do do that. And than you watch them do exactly what they say not to. They talk about using fingers.not using fingers. Only using wrists etc. it just seems everyone does it differently. After 20 years I finally have found my real grip.but my hands just aren't shaped to hold it how most would say your supposed to
The thing I have found is that you have to learn to hold the sticks many different ways in many different contexts. This video is really solid advice and you should always be trying to apply the principles but you need to be able to do American and French and everything in between. I have recently been trying to force the most French grip position I can on myself as I play and it has really helped me even though it has been like learning to play the drums again.
5:20 into video to instruct you on how to hold your sticks.....this man can Talk!
Too much talk
I been playing for 10 years and I needed this video. Luckily ABSOLUTE BEGINNER is a mindset and I'm happy to have it :)
I'm an animator. This demo made 100% perfect sense to my brain. Drums are a beautiful craft.
I appreciate this. I had drum lessons 20 years ago, and I'm getting back into it, and just wanted to make sure I wasn't starting any bad habits.
Picks up sticks at 4:27 but lots of good info if you’re watching from the beginning. 5:19 lesson begins.
came here to say that 👍
I have very flexible thumbs which are not good for pinching and holding things. I hadn’t heard of having the fulcrum more at the base of the middle finger. Just trying it out, I really like it! I lately have been kind of worried that my potential on the drums is limited due to my autonomy, but this may be some crucial information to keep improving.
21:52
“The Motherload” by Mastodon.
That’s one of my goals. It’s fast and busy. It boggles my mind that the drummer plays and sings the lead vocal at the same time since the drum track alone is challenging to play.
Thanks for all your drumming tips! Of all the 'how to' videos on YT, I keep coming back to yours! Cheers!
Years ago a drummer taught me a technique that completely stifled my progress and I couldn't get past it. This makes waaaaay more sense excited to pick up drumming again and try it. Also sidenote, it's just like tennis more control comes from looser strokes rather than gripping harder.
IMO a good way to switch to looser styles is to think that the more you feel like you are bouncing a ball, the closer you are to good technique
dude youre the best teacher. so grateful for so many of your vids.
Not sure why the negative comments but thank you so much for this educational video to the negative comments make your own video if your so great at this then we can compare...he is explaining for us just learning so more info is better than less....
Really good video, I'll even look into your course
always wanted a drum kit, grabbed 1 a few days ago. so here I am looking into every type of drumming basics i can find. my end goals are songs like Lux Eterna by Metallica. great video and thanks for your efforts.
Thank you
Great advice. I'm a multi instrumentalist, composer, producer, started with buying some drums for friends to record on, now I got curious and started playing. I work on a pad a lot. It's really interesting to get into how drums work and developing independence and all that, even if I only play for fun, right. No particular song, I just wanna be able to swing like Louis Bellson ... not much to ask right ... 😅
You know what Im not a drummer by any means at all. Im just bass player and a noise guy. I decided to take drums seriously in my jams, Ive only been practicing a couple days off this vid on a practice pad and I gotta say. I just gotta out of jam and heard things out of myself on the kit I havent done before! Thank you. You made it less overwhelming and i didnt have to sift thru a bunch of bs to get there. I still sort a suck but Im going to keep at. I still lost my sticks but I did it alot less, I was able to go a bit longer too without splitting a stick.
The point you make about practicing air drumming and creating artificial rebound is very practical because sometimes, you might have to play on another kit with a snare drum that someone tuned super low with practically NO rebound. It was impossible to anything subtle or play double strokes on. RLLK? nope impossible to play on that snare lol, made me sound like a complete beginner lol.
I had to pause this video to go take care of a fly and found myself practicing my flicks with the fly swatter haha… thanks for the awesome videos!
This is something i needed as a beginner with a pad and 2 sticks.
i've not played drums in 15 years so was just double checking i had it right, seems i had a good teacher :) just got a electric kit, one thing that im having to get used to is the rubber feeling of the cymbals
the end goal is something slipknot possibly 3 nil lmao high aspirations n that lol need to get and learn double bass tho lol
Jesus get to it.
Grip instructions start at 5:16
Ah the age of "GIMMIE MY FREE SHIT NOW"
spoiled
Mate it's learner's coming here, any tips he's got are good advice and can help a lot. Beggers can't be choosers
Thank you for starting at the aboslute basics. It's a great video subscribed for sure!
I would like to get this book. Can you send it to me?
This is absolutely great! Thanks a lot
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot!!!!
Totally GREAT Lesson!!! And I am not a drummer, but your lesson felt more confident.
i like . is the little finger free? pinky.... tx
This is really helpful vid man, thanks!
thank you so much sir!!
I just got a pad and sticks. Trying to learn grips and getting comfortable with the sticks and learning paradiddles. My weak hand is my right. I’m left handed.
Got an edrum kit and I am so pumped up but my finger is already aching 😭
You’re the man!! Appreciate you!⚡️⭐️
Savior by Rise Against . My kick doubles seam to lag the hands and just can’t get the timings synced at a slow tempo it’s ok but the faster I go it falls apart.
Where is that pdf for practice pads? The link sends me to the fluid hands one
my dream fast song is HOLY WARS... THE PUNISHMENT DUE !!!
I struggle with getting in my head. That control issue is hard to let go
My god it's like im playing a mmo and i need to skip the dialogue
I´m getting my drumset today, how can I get to the paid community u mention??,
21:52 “Bleed” by Meshuggah
I’m confused. Last year you taught about using the first finger as the fulcrum to be very fast (e.g. blast beats). Then you teach the middle finger as fulcrum.
Is one preferred over the other for some reason?
Or are they both simply used for different dynamics and feels?
I feel like its sounding good but it actually isnt when i play. I often have like a little break in my beats which sounds really weird. Also im often loosing my sticks i hope this will help
I would love to be able to play LED ZEP ROCK AND ROLL!
Just starting at 56 yo. Would love to be able to play Mombassa from the movie Inception.
Any song by Skitsystem or Drillerkiller. Though I'm working through "Maktens murar rasar" by Skitsystem at the moment.
18:50 Can’t help the „Look at the flick of da wrist” in my head
Ever Fallen in Love With Someone by the Buzzcocks is a song I really wanna learn but I tense up when I try to play it at full speed
Outta love again - Van Halen!
Starts at over 5 mins in😮
After entering my e-mail my address is blocked, there is NO free book!
Forever Dead by Sevendust is the one I want to play smoothly.
I can't tell you how, but when I began playing in High School in the 90s so much was just natural and obvious (common sense?) to me on guitar and drums both with no instruction. I figured everything out on my own. So for me it was always strange and hard to grasp the idea that for other people it wasn't obvious. So I was never able to teach anyone else. I didn't have the patience. These days I have a bit more than I did. So much is in the wrist for both of these instruments. If you aren't relaxing you aren't going to play well.
how about any RAMONES song ... Rockaway Beach, Blitzgrieg Bop ....
brackish by kittie!
I would love to play solway firth by slipknot 😂😂
Playing since I was a teenager and still can't hold the stick in my weak hand correctly
Thanks Steven and the answer to the question is.Run to the hills Iron Maiden
I feel pain in my wrist, on my left wrist on the outside, from playing very losely :-(
I'd love to be able to play anything off of Quadrophenia. To be able to play as freely and confidently as Keith Moon in general, actually.
❤
5:17
I want to play New Rose (The Damned) as half as good as Rat 🐀 !!
fast song, which I think I "would never be able to play"... beatles, I want to be your man
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I want to be able to play Misery Business :(
Painkiller by Judas Priest
Where's the stick toss ?
Long Train Runnin' - The Doobie Brothers
I will follow - by U2 , this one is a fast song for me
Thanks! I'd say Tom Sawyer, lol
😁🥁👍
I want to learn "Indoctrination" by Dimmu Borgir .. 🤣
Wipe out by the raiders
Blink 182 - Always
ask your doctor for an Ultrasound of your left parotid gland, this is not medical advice
Context?
Is it financial advice?
What about the thumbnail? Never talked about it at all.
Exactly. And then states that "There's a whole video on my channel about why middle finger is better" and then i can't find it, because it seems to be hidden in some arbitrary lesson.
@@Fennyellaruclips.net/video/4oktd85wPt0/видео.html
Why the middle finger is the better pivot point: ruclips.net/video/4oktd85wPt0/видео.html
Brother you talk too much. Less talk and get to the practical points where you demonstrate, we don't want to listen to you too much but we want to learn from your demonstration
I was thinking the exact same thing. I appreciate the content but I’d wish he’d get more to the point. I think he’d have more subscribers if he did.
@@MisshaMointrue
I didn't find this at all. The explanation of how and why was something I found useful. Different strokes, different folks ...
You can always just scrub forward and skip it dawg
I had the same issue as others here.
You come across as a really nice guy and it’s great content, but you need to stick to the bare essentials.
SOOOO many RUclipsrs talk and talk before getting to the subject and it just makes me switch off and look for another video.
I stuck with this one purely because it seems to be the ONLY one that addresses “grip”.
If you edit this down, I think you’ll get a better response.
Oh, and thank you for making the effort in the first place. 😎
Too much talking
no quarter led zeppelin
I disliked this vid
Wipeout!
Minute after mimute after mimute of taling without saying anything. Typical youtube fluff..
"You can do this....nicoteyte can help"
This fake self help bs of drummers is just the worst
What i don't like about this video, to give some constructive criticism:
The critique:
Thumbnail showing us a middle finger grip instead of pointer, but you never acknowledged it properly or addressed why. You simply referred to "some" arbitrary other video, where you supposedly talk about it in detail.
No links provided, nothing. I've watched not all, but most videos in the "Hand Technique" playlist that made sense from thumbnail or title. None of them talk about that.
That's what i don't like and feel very strongly about. You basically change a big part in hand/grip technique, expect us to follow through on a "Trust me bro" basis, without explaining anything.
Constructive Feedback:
Provide proper links if you have something covered that demands an explanation, so we can follow you not on a "Trust me bro" basis, but on the basis of determining for ourselves if that makes sense to us. I like doing stuff, when i understand the WHY behind it. Most people do, actually.
And to follow up on this, i also tried that other grip. Doesn't feel like it changes anything, really. So the explanation of the WHY would really help to understand if there's an actual reason or if it's just something to be "different/unique/edgy" in any way.
So in total:
- Provide links to stuff you are not willing to explain in the video you mention it, no matter what the reason might be.
(Bonuspoints / Alternative: Show on the thumbnail what's actually part of the video. Don't make a thumbnail with one grip being ok ✅and another that isn't ❌, that doesn't even get explained in the video itself. Keep it about the video.)
- Explain at least in a TLDR / short version why we should do something. It's fine to have it explained more detailed in another video, but give us something to follow you when you are the only person on earth i've seen so far, making a change to grip like that. And without explanation, it's just something many people (and i've looked through the comments, a lot of people wonder about the same thing) are not willing to follow.
Over 100 big people on this platform trying to teach drums.
1 of them saying that another finger is better, without explanation, just a thumbnail that heavily suggests that and one sentence on the "just trust me" basis.
That's just not the way to go.
The rest of the video is fine. Different thumbnail, explaining the middlefinger instead of pointer and the video would be great. Now it's just confusing and feels like only half the video.
Instead of writing this diatribe you could have searched middle finger grip and found his video within seconds like I did.
ruclips.net/video/4oktd85wPt0/видео.htmlsi=e8ypLfBXcpgIXo9m
Hands Down by Dashboard Confession and Typical by Mutemath. the verses have fast hihats
404 error on the drum pad eguide 🥲
Chop suey or toxicity by System of a down, got the rhythm but not the speed.. edit: also 2 months in