Canada's "Air Force Ones": What We Know So Far About The CC-330 Husky
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2024
- We’ve looked at the Canadian government's plan to operate the Airbus A330 MRTT in articles on our website. But, over the past few months, much more information has been released. The aircraft type has a Canadian military designation, more jets have been ordered, and the government has also given the media a tour of the interior of the new aircraft in its interim configuration. This video will explore the latest news regarding Canada's new Airbus A330 MRTT aircraft.
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It was long overdue. The A330 was probably the best choice for the RCAF, made even better that the type is operated by many allies and the plane is still in production. A far cry from the former A310s that started out with the former Canadian airline WardAir.
Also helps that former RCAF pilots operating AC or TS A330s can still serve in a reservist role due to the commonality between the types.
These aircraft are already around 10 years old.
With the Canadian air force wanting 30 years use out of these A330s, they are feeling very optimistic!
Why? Don't compare it with jets operating in the domestic airline industry
@michaeldunham3385 True, but aging jets parked outside still have the ordinary corrosion issues. The A330 has a lot of brackets holding wing to body fairings that tend to corrode badly and Airbus is a bad parts supplier. It usually ends up with MROs making their own brackets, while Airbus takes multiple days to certify them based on information from an e-mail.
I am a huge critic of the procurement process but these were great acquisitions. Aircraft are not measured in years, and these are lightly used.
Remember they won’t do doing the rounds as commercial jets do
4 of the aircraft are new.
The A310s were originally purchased by Wardair They became ppart of Canadian Airlines after it boughtWardair. when CP needed help, the government publicly refused to bail CP out but behind the scenes , purchased the 310s to be given to military and theybwere renamed to make it less onvious where they came from.
I suspect the government was hoping to get Air Transat’s 330s but when AC pulled out of purchase agreement, government had to start looking elsewhere for 330s. (hence delay).
no Mulrooney purchased them publickly as these are
It’s good they’re investing in these, they’re great aircraft. As with any Canadian military investment, however, it’s on a smaller budget.
you mean just as the UK and Australia did hmmmmm and 9 a/c are not a small purchase .
Much better decision than going with the Boeing KCs based on the 767, we all know Boeing is in a very tight spot ...
horse shit. don't hear of any troubles at all with boeing in the military end
For those wondering why the RCAF didn't go with the A330neo it's because 1) the RCAF operates on a shoestring budged, so second hand A332s is all it could realistically afford, and 2) the A330neo MRTT isn't even certified yet and only exists on paper.
It's because it's not the aircraft type that got certified for refueling program
not yet available!!!!!!!
Much is demanded from the Canadian Forces so it is good to see them getting the tools they need to get the job done. Btw I saw one of them already painted in grey at YHZ on March 28. It was parked at the cargo tarmac. Very impressive.
002 is the VIP plane... hence why it has the colourful livery
There may be a couple of spelling errors in the reg numbers at 6:13?
Not Boeing. That's great! Used planes are avail earlier and new plane will provide workforce on the long run. Military plane like that don't get too much mileage
The interior is identical to the way it was delivered by Kuwait Air... They refurbished just the seat covers in business class to a very dark navy color
they're gonna keep that exact interior because there's no budget to change it lol
Trudeau’s budget is unlimited, as he spends money he doesn’t have.
Good. This is much better than the blank cheques the Americans seem to write to contractors like Boeing & co over the decades. In the U.K. there was public outrage at one of the government jets unnecessary new libery costing £1m. Rightly so. Hold governments to account.
What is the reason for the repairs to the fuselage where the horizontal stabilizer is mounted ?
Not to seem stupid, but why is the Canadian PM not flying a Bombardier Global 7500/8000? I'm assuming the C-Series/A220 cannot travel the necessary distance?
During the refit, do tankers have extra fuel tanks added in the cargo bay, for example, or is the fuel configuration identical to the commercial version?
added to cargo deck
They have the same fuel tank configuration as the commercial version, as standard. Airbus make a point of the A330's huge fuel off-load capacity without having to sacrifice any passenger or cargo capacity.
SimplyFlying seems to be the only site claiming extra tanks added to the cargo deck. That would be optional, at best.
This looks fire
It's about friggin time.
Simply put…Finally!
Right choice. So glad they didn't go with the troubled Boeing KC-46 with less capability.
❤ About time,..!
06:12 CORRECTION: 9K-APD Bow should be 330003 not 330002 like 9K-APC
the background music is missing
Wow, they’re actually purchasing some of them brand new from airbus??? Shocker!
The majority of the RCAF inventory is aircraft that was delivered brand new from the manufacturer.
I was being sarcastic…
yeah we know !!!@@RealBanana
Powered by Trent 700?
The ex Kuwait fleet is.
Good buy.....needed
The A330 MRTT will probably be working more than its predecessor because the F-35s have a shorter range than the CF-18s. Also, if the F-35s retain their stealth features, there will be no external fuel tanks under the fighters.
The new RCAF F-35As will require probe style refuelling capability which is currently not available in the current RCAF tanker fleet which only has the drogue system. The new tankers will come with a proper refuelling boom on the tail.
Stealth external fuel tanks are in the works.
It's because they don't have any yet. Just 2 people movers. Refuellers coming later
Could have gone for new A330N's with VVIP configuration!!!
why not get the neo's?
to think only 2 foreign Customers Japan and Israel bought The KC46 Pegasus and you can bet Boeing is fuming Canada bought The A330 MRTT as Boeing still hasnt certified yet the undwerwing Refuelling Pods for The KC46 as they had to plumb the 787 Wing for it which caused delays as that wing was designed from the outset for two engines Airbus uses The A340 wing on the A330 so the wing was already plumbed so they put the pods on stations 1 and 4 saving development time hence the reason why The A330 MRTT has sold more Australia ,Canada, UK , France , NATO, South Korea, Singapore, Brazil UAE and Saudi Arabia so far and more possibly
and if not for Boeing shenanigans would be serving the US as origonally considered
exactly my Friend as The USAF KC-46 Pegasus was chosen to help Boeing as The C-17A Production line was closing down as Politics intervened as The KC-30B as The USAF had originally chosen carried more Fuel and satisfied the make in USA as Northrop Grumman had a Local Production line planned in Mobile Alabama The USAF made it clear The KC-30B was in Production and ready whereas The KC-46A was a Paper Airplane but Boeing used Political Clout to get the deal thrown out and their plane chosen instead as they have had delays since as European Aircraft Manufacturers have found it difficult to break into The US military Market as Politics often comes first even if The American Built offering is inferior it is often chosen as Buy American comes first like Trump tried when American Delta ordered The Bombardier Regional Jet he put massive Tariffs on the order and said they would only be removed if they bought an American (Boeing) equivalent only Boeing doesnt build a Regional Jet their smallest airliner 737 MAX was too big and look at the issues with that American Delta appealled Trump's ruling and The Courts said the Tariffs were illegal and now to prevent a future issue The CS200 is built for American Customers in USA
Customers should require A330MRTTneo instead of ceo
I was wondering about that
totally unnecessary! Airbus will need to spend money to develop that....cost for customers will go up. Also so many used aircraft to use instead for such a low cost.
Military doesn't care about fuel efficiency. They do the job for 30 years.
Welcome to the club. How is Australia so far ahead of Canada?
Still miss the 707
yes.. beautiful quadjet..
My first 707 flight we were landing in a thunderstorm into Shearwater. It was that day I learned that yes, a planes wings really do 'flap', 6ft either way on the old girl.
Out of all of the money our government spends/wastes, why in the world can we just not purchase new aircraft for our military/dignitaries? Sometimes I think as Canadians we feel like we are too small of a country to have the latest and greatest equipment for our military. WE ARE CANADA and it's time we shown the world who we are, what we stand for and what we can do! Canadians in general have a "roll up your sleeves and getter done" attitude when it comes to doing work and it's time we show the world who we are and what we can do!
The problem is political optics. If our PM bought brand new planes to use as VIP transport, the Conservative opposition would pounce on that as a luxury for the PM. Just like how the PM's residence needs to be renovated or razed, but the Conservatives cry foul that the PM is spending money frivolously. This is the problem with Canada. Canadians who don't like the PM would jump all over that even though by the time the PM's residence, these planes and most other capital purchases are realized this PM will have been retired.
@@glennwong5041 No - there is no issues with Canada or Canadians. It's time people grow up, including the leaders of the other parties that cause these problems. No matter what our PM does, the Conservative leader (his "Royals Opposition", his own words, not mine) won't be happy and he will complain. If it's a Monday or raining, the Conservatives Leader will blame the PM or the PMO. We just have to get past this childish crap. I have zero time for such crap.
@@NeilHyndman I agree with you, however the CPC and its supporters even criticize the PM for taking a vacation.
I think if you are going to spend the money then a A350 or at least a A330 Neo would have been more appropriate.
Those aircraft type are not part of program.
are you just naming a few aircraft you know of? How about a piper cub?
@@bruceketcheson4877 funny .
Should have picked up a couple ACJ Two Twenty for VIP use.
A330 is for V.I.P the one on beginning of video. The blue and white one
Canada will fly these aircraft for the next 50 years, just take a look at how old our F-18s are.
30 years more likely and the new ones for 40
These are 5 “dry” aircraft. 😂Wonder if Alcohol would still be banned, for the Canadian VIPs, as it was not allowed on Kuwait Airways.
After previous scandals involving VIPs and alcohol on RCAF Flights, I'm pretty sure they will be dry regardless of their origins.
I wonder why they didnt went with the a330neo? Because a 15% efficiency gain damn.
The CEO Is 25 years old...
It was cheaper
The NEO MRTT is yet to be developed and certified.
Lol I'm pretty sure Air Canada has a bigger budget for aircraft than the RCAF does...
They are only retiring the A310s now because they are literally falling apart.
Don't think there's enough demand for a neo version
didnt went?
Better late than never
I feel like the A310s are more OG and classic (I love the A310), and with the RCAF wanting to use 10+ year old planes for another 20+ years is an awful choice. I don't know why they did this.
you mean like all the others have done ?
Is 3 of A330 will be donated by JT to ukraine.
Could have made in Canada which then we know for sure no games being played with Airplanes from foreign Nation’s which doesn’t agree with our Value’s
I was not aware that Airbus still offers the older version of the A330.
I think for the four new aircraft, they should go for the NEO A330-800, the replacement of the A330-200.
I guess to re-engine the A330-200 with the engines on the NEO is too expensive for mineral rich Canada.
no 330 neo's are currently available as mrtt's
Yup, the Canadian government doesn’t like developing its abundant natural resources. Too many small but noisy groups against it. So, it’s just higher taxes and more borrowing to pay. Very unfortunate situation.
@@alpearson9158 I know that.
It can't take much to develop a MRTT out of the Neo, derived from the A330 MRTT.
Noice, 700th like and 100th comment!
My taxpayer money misses the days when PMs and presidents used to fly in commercial jets.
How long ago was that?
@@AirplaneDoctor_ Until quite recently actually, at least in my home country of Israel
@@oboealtoAlright, l was going to say Canadian PM's haven't flown commercial in many many decades.
@@AirplaneDoctor_ It's interesting you mention Canada because Israel's President Shimon Perez actually flew on an official trip to Canada with Air Canada. This unusual turn of events followed Israel's flagship airline demand for US$ 4700 for carrying a backup oxygen tank for the President. We all saluted him for that!
@@oboealtoIt's more about hypocrisy and a double standard with Canada. Trudeau has been punishing Canadian's with special environmental taxes saying he's trying to save the world from global warming, yet he refuses to fly commercial which would save taxpayers millions plus leave a smaller carbon footprint.
Mistake & Correction at 8:35
The Canadian Prime minister might need the areas for sleep, only.
The ideal aircraft should separate MRTT from true dedicated VVIP aircraft, maybe one day just 2 A330MRTT not enough due to resource allocation between strategic airlift and aerial refueling and VVIP transport. In this regard, Canada shall and should rebid VVIP aircraft contract, separate from those A330s, and maybe a second hand B747-8i or brand new B787 VIP would be necessary. Maybe this should be dubbed as VCC-200, in the way VC aircraft naming does for VVIP transport does (eg. VC-25), and add some A321XLR modified for narrow body Air Force One type in case bigger ones cannot be accommodated in some airports and airfields.
Not all of the aircraft are getting converted to MRTT. A few will remain in full passenger configurations similar to the current CC-150 fleet.
@@shenherm But if this is not enough, as they only took 2, a rebid for dedicated VVIP aircraft would be necessary, for mission allocation efficiency reasons.
@jimmyjiang3413 Not at all. There is currently only 2 Polaris in all passenger configuration. None of them have ever been VVIP because we don't need a VVIP aircraft. The VIP fly on any of the Polaris, and very likely any of the CC-330 alike. One or two of the CC-330 will likely be fit with a small bedroom/office in the back and preferred for VIP movements over other aircraft, but the idea is to have flexibility rather than dedicated VVIP which cannot be used for anything other than political private jets.
@@shenherm But it may not have enough privacy and security of true VVIP aircraft, as where there may be more secure communications and resistance to a given nuclear blast. PMs and royal family are truly VVIPs and some sort of extra dedication would be necessary.
@@jimmyjiang3413 We have never had a VVIP aircraft and simply don't need one.
the stretched A330-900 Neo is a better airframe than second hand A330-200 . . .
The -900neo isent a stretch. It's the same size as the -300ceo. The -800neo is the same size as the -200ceo
*isn't
They're buying aircraft type what the program originally started with
It was a Wardair plane I think. A former airline that went bankruptcy
Long overdue and still buying second-hand??
Not all of them
@@lloydkuepfer1599Buying *any* used hardware and expecting to milk it out to yet another ridiculous overstretched lifespan is unworthy of a G7 member state.
Any airframe has a set maximum expected number of pressurization cycles and overall limits of metal fatigue from the time the metal is forged and fabricated and assembled. Canadian service members deserve better than a government that shops for their gear at the charity shops' Gently-Used lots.
grow up !@@puirYorick
@@alpearson9158 "grow up !"
Now there's a response from an intellectual titan -- not.
Air Force One should be Canadian Made.
The name is CANADIAN AIR FORCE --Royal was dropped many years ago!
It's a rather amazing coincidence how this latest RCAF acquisition was completed in record time, proposal to first delivery in 2 years, when most new aircraft can take 10 years to arrive, and the first delivery just happened to be a VIP configuration for the PM.
It's because the need is urgent, as it was affecting operations. If the VIP transport isn't working then they would need to pull another plane off what it was doing to transport the PM. Stop making things political bc you don't like the PM.
No he is correct. Procurement has never been this fast in Canada. Trudeau needs to keep his image
Should buy A330-900 or 777-300er
neither currently adaptable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I sure hope that they have solved the cold start problem with the Rolls Royce engines. Oh wait no one probably thought about that. You know Canada gets cold. Who knew?
Umm this isn't the USA...so no 'Air Force One'
It is really too bad that PM Trudeau was held up in India. He could have spent some more time showing off his suit of Indian dress. I am sure all Canadians would love to see more of his stranger side.
Does not matter what we are talking about the Canadian Forces normally only buys second hand junk been the way for years. The Airforce on the other hands gets new fighter jets about every 30 years. Things never change.
The CH-148, CC-295, CH-149, CH-147, CT-156, CC-130J, CC-144D, CC-177, and CE-145, and most CF-188 were all delivered brand new. That's the vast majority of the RCAF inventory.
Some were bought lightly used so we could get them faster (and get a deal for more). Some are brand new. Some people are never happy.
I wonder how many listening devices the Kuwaiti government was able to slip into them....
Justin Trudeau doesn't deserve a Dash 7 nevermind a a330
They should acquired r VC 25 just like the US
been waiting decades for new fighters for the rcaf and vessels for the RCN, but of course it takes no time to get the PM a new jet...
ships ordered 2019 a/c ordered jan 2023 problem is delivery not want or need
They were so "Careful" not to discuss "Hours and Cycles" on these units we got sold??? NOT UPFRONT AT ALL !!!
that has been published, they are very low and these planes are close to new
turdo only needs a hot air balloon for travel. He supplies the fuel, but no chance he will pay carbon tax
go play on any highway available
All so our PM can spew carbon at will while we are taxed to death at the gas pumps. All from the do as I say but not as I do Prime Minister. The aircraft is nice but the premise that a PM can do all kinds of carbon emission while pointing out that we can't do the same thing is simply wrong. In his mind he is good and his carbon is special while our carbon is dirty and bad. Soon a new Prime Minister will get to fly in this jet.
What a ridiculous comment. STFU.
will any be white?
no
Why?
As a canadian i am ashamed by our government
The liberals screamed when the conservatives bought the first planes lol
Now the PM can burn even more fuel on his many vacations in between lectures about our carbon emissions
get a brain
@@alpearson9158 I do have a brain. The a330 burns significantly more fuel and emits significantly more CO2 than the A310 it's replacing. But please turn your thermostat down. You're killing the planet.
@alpearson9158 is he wrong???
@@153eddy We expect our PM to fly to conferences and to go one trade missions. He requires a plane to do that. So he is wrong.
Good jet for Pierre. Just need to get Justin stink out
Sloppy seconds as always
00:40
Department of National Defence or DND.
Thank you.
Or as we Canadian Veteran’s sadly call it.
Department of National Disgrace.
The cocaine plane.