How to Test a 7 Pin Trailer Connector with a Multimeter and Troubleshooting my Trailer Wiring

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2022
  • My trailer lights and brake controller recently stopped working and I had to troubleshoot the problem. In this video, I show how to test the 7 pin trailer connector with a typical Multimeter. Turns out it was a problem with the trailer wiring and connector.
    My hands are in the way so I displayed a diagram in the upper right of the video that shows the the location of each pin to test the trailer connector. To test, refer to the diagram and the following instructions:
    1) Turn on vehicle ignition.
    2) Go to trailer connector with your multimeter and set it to measure DC volts. You may want to test it on a random battery to make sure it's in the correct mode and working properly.
    3) To test the trailer connector, put the black probe on "-12VDC Ground", according to the diagram
    4) Put the red probe on the circuit that you are testing. For example, to test the trailer running lights, put the red probe on "Running Lights", according to the diagram. For things like brakes lights, you may need someone in the car to apply the brakes while you measure voltage.
    5) You should get voltage between 11-14 DC volts (depends on condition of battery and whether is is being charged/drained)
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  • @PIFDIY
    @PIFDIY  Год назад +12

    My hands are in the way so I displayed a diagram in the upper right of the video that shows the the location of each pin to test the trailer connector. To test, refer to the diagram and the following instructions:
    1) Turn on vehicle ignition.
    2) Go to trailer connector with your multimeter and set it to measure DC volts. You may want to test it on a random battery to make sure it's in the correct mode and working properly.
    3) To test the trailer connector, put the black probe on "-12VDC Ground", according to the diagram
    4) Put the red probe on the circuit that you are testing. For example, to test the trailer running lights, put the red probe on "Running Lights", according to the diagram. For things like brakes lights, you may need someone in the car to apply the brakes while you measure voltage.
    5) You should get voltage between 11-14 DC volts (depends on condition of battery and whether is is being charged/drained)

  • @donsmith4534
    @donsmith4534 Год назад +2

    This is the best trouble shoot from brake controller to the trailer light connection I've seen. Thanks much.

  • @PredatorOmnivore
    @PredatorOmnivore 3 месяца назад +2

    Thanks, Buy yourself some Test Leads with Alligator clamps on the ends and save yourself a lot of trouble. I do appreciate the video showing the "jumping all over the place" LCD meter display for turn signal operation.

  • @jeremycassell7627
    @jeremycassell7627 Год назад +6

    Thanks this was extremely useful and I was able to ensure my 7 pin connector is good! I knew there had to be a way with a simple multimeter, great video 🤘

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад +2

      Glad it helped you Jeremy!

  • @kinahawi
    @kinahawi Год назад

    Thanks for posting! Just what I needed.

  • @JoshuaShepherd
    @JoshuaShepherd Год назад

    Great video, I appreciate the walkthrough. 👌

  • @driver902
    @driver902 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the video,,I need to check the brake voltage output.
    You made it simple.

  • @danbraucht1359
    @danbraucht1359 10 месяцев назад

    This is very helpful . . . thanks for your time and effort !

  • @Thisnotmysandwich
    @Thisnotmysandwich 8 месяцев назад

    You’re not kidding - you’re the only video I’ve found on this

  • @legion7193
    @legion7193 2 месяца назад

    Very informative video. I was not expecting to learn all of that. Make more videos man.

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  2 месяца назад

      Thanks!

  • @scottvandyke
    @scottvandyke 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video. This really helped me alot. The only concern / deviation is the fact that I get no volts registering whatsoever with the black probe on neg./neutral, and the red probe on hot. All else is just as you show. Anyway, lights on trailer work great, no issue. 2004 Suburban, BTW.

    • @cesarmoya5294
      @cesarmoya5294 Год назад +1

      I just installed a brake controller on a neighbors truck. Since he didn’t purchase the vehicle with a tow package, that hot wire was not wired to the rear of the vehicle. And the fuse box in the engine bay also had the brake controller wiring not connected and tucked / stowed away.

  • @jamesb3239
    @jamesb3239 4 месяца назад

    Thank you! Excellent video.

  • @michaelcollier5092
    @michaelcollier5092 26 дней назад

    Thanks for the share. My brand new truck's connector isn't connected On a truck, lol. This saved me some trying to validate this with other means.

  • @dextrey7483
    @dextrey7483 8 месяцев назад

    This helped a ton with an issue I’m having! Thanks!

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  8 месяцев назад

      Glad it helped!

  • @warrenalbano1621
    @warrenalbano1621 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for sharing God speed 🙏

  • @Eiigy
    @Eiigy 2 месяца назад

    Excellent video! Thank you so much. I needed to know how to test from the socket because the Toyota engineers never tried used the tool they provide (which is located in the engine fuse box) to take out a fuse. Impossible! Mine is a 4runner.

  • @joejimenez8068
    @joejimenez8068 Месяц назад

    Awesome job

  • @happyhillsfarm8567
    @happyhillsfarm8567 Год назад

    Good video, saved me time and money since I had a multi meter, of course still not sure why my lights aren’t working but my brakes are 😑

  • @stcpuck
    @stcpuck Год назад +1

    Great Video, thanks! I was hoping you would do the MM Test on the Reverse Lights, I have a boat trailer that should have a "reverse override" so the Brakes don't get applied when backing up, up hill.
    Also, it would have been good to see the individual connections from the new Plug to the Trailer, as I don't think it was a simple color to color match as the initial diagram showed.

  • @solomonshabazz8935
    @solomonshabazz8935 Год назад

    Great vid! I was going to make one myself!!

  • @handiworksgc
    @handiworksgc Год назад

    super helpful!

  • @lyndaleetqpv
    @lyndaleetqpv Год назад +1

    Well he'll. I thought the center pin would be negative. Now I'll go test again. Thank you.

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад +1

      Logical mistake. :)

  • @zigarten
    @zigarten 11 месяцев назад +7

    I still got my Analog meter!! 😂

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  11 месяцев назад

      lol, me too!

  • @thesetruths1404
    @thesetruths1404 9 дней назад

    I have to do this, and also figure out why I turn my lights on the 2005 Yukon, and it's in Park, my RV brakes turn on also.

  • @jemyeh516
    @jemyeh516 Год назад +1

    Hi, thank you for sharing, what you did is the black goes to negative and the red goes the rest 6 slots?

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад

      Yes. Black probe stays on negative. If you look at the diagram in my video, putting the red probe on the various pins should display 12-14 volts when the brakes are on, running lights are on, blinkers are on, etc.

  • @vicpetrishak7705
    @vicpetrishak7705 Год назад +1

    Constant current is needed to charge the battery for the trailer brake-away system . 5/19/23

  • @leighsheppard8614
    @leighsheppard8614 Год назад +18

    Can't see what pins you are touching because your hand(s) block the 7-way in nearly every instance! The diagram to the right of the picture helps a bit, but we still can't see where your probes are located. 😞

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад +7

      You're right Leigh, sorry about that! I put the diagram up to help make it more clear. Just know that whatever function I'm checking, the black probe is always on "-12VDC/Ground" and the red probe is on the function's corresponding pin according to the diagram.

    • @HungNguyen91622
      @HungNguyen91622 8 месяцев назад +1

      Bruh he said he put it on the negative and positive. He also Eben put up the diagram. Everything he put the price he says what he put it on. So you just gotta see the diagram to probe. This is easy. Just listen and follow.

    • @jackofalltrades406
      @jackofalltrades406 4 месяца назад

      He explained exactly where he was putting them, and a quick Google search tells you exactly what pins he is touching.

    • @wogboi8152
      @wogboi8152 Месяц назад +1

      Thank god someone said it!!

  • @windycityoutdoors5273
    @windycityoutdoors5273 Год назад

    Helpful video, but it’s not clear to me how you isolated the issue to the trailer plug. What was your issue and how was it resolved by changing the plug?

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад

      You're right WCO. I didn't have footage that showed the trailer's 7 pin connector wiring had separated from the pins and that was the reason I replaced the trailer's cable. After testing the Telluride's 7 pin connector and finding that it was good, I knew the problem was with the trailer wiring. In my case, the trailer's connector and connector wiring was old and had been serviced in the past. I took apart the connector and saw wiring that had disconnected from the connector's pins.

  • @nelsonuk3167
    @nelsonuk3167 10 месяцев назад

    Thankfully

  • @TH-bj1pb
    @TH-bj1pb 10 месяцев назад +1

    You can make a test lamp with a bulb and a couple wires. :)

  • @jakethesnake9528
    @jakethesnake9528 Год назад +2

    Good video, but hands are in the way to actually see check points.

  • @letallyourdreamscometrue9682
    @letallyourdreamscometrue9682 Год назад

    I got nothing. I am trying to find out how to see if a fuse or relay blew out inside the truck fuse box?

  • @skipmars7979
    @skipmars7979 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks

  • @gmr228
    @gmr228 Год назад

    Can you tell me what the function of the auxiliary pin is on an RV?

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад +3

      The Aux pin is always hot delivering a constant 12V to the RV when plugged in. This will supplement the RV's existing battery(s) or power the RV's 12V devices if the RV's battery(s) are disconnected.

  • @andrsdutchk7040
    @andrsdutchk7040 10 месяцев назад

    Sure we analogue meters. They show some readings very well, perhaps better than digital.

  • @andrewperera4270
    @andrewperera4270 Год назад +2

    Good video, but can't see the wires you touching.

  • @lifeofmarco8656
    @lifeofmarco8656 Год назад

    So i did this and its all working but when i connect the trailer, the trailer lights will either only work with the truck running lights off and when on the stay on as if im holding the break. And now the right turning signal will only work but not the left. And just bought this trailer like a month ago

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад

      If the trailer is new, the most likely culprit is the tow vehicle wiring or connector. Just test the pinouts and see what you get.

  • @craigwest5254
    @craigwest5254 Год назад +1

    What setting do I put my multi meter on ?

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад

      You're looking to measure 12 VDC so set your meter to "Volts DC"

  • @terracecurrence9883
    @terracecurrence9883 Год назад

    I have used a digital multimeter, and a test light, and I can not get nothing, all the pins are dead. I need to hook a trailer to my truck. Please help

  • @daveroya77
    @daveroya77 4 месяца назад

    I thought your video was ok, 100% could have been improved by finding something to hold the plug flap open. Also would have been nice to see the voltage reaction of the brake controller which is my current issue. Thanks for trying though! haha

  • @jeffrollins9214
    @jeffrollins9214 8 месяцев назад

    Good video. Question for all. My trailer has the same plug and turn signals, brakes, hazards, stop lights all work great. UNTIL I turn on my running lights, then I loose all of the trailer lights. Tried on another vehicle and problem same, so believe it's the trailer. Any ideas?

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  8 месяцев назад

      You pretty much ruled out the tow vehicle, but if you want to be certain, just hook 12v directly to the trailer pins to see if the running lights work. If not, you know the problem is with the 12+ wire to the lights, or a bad ground at the lights. You could check continuity at both ends to see if there's a break or pinched wire on the 12+ side or bad ground connection at the 12-.

    • @davemiller2816
      @davemiller2816 5 месяцев назад

      bad switch, or a short

  • @alexnewman1317
    @alexnewman1317 Год назад

    When I try this on my 2021 Silverado 2500 I get no readings on my 7 pin connection on the bumper or the truck bed. When I run the same test on my wife’s Tahoe, it all reads the way the video goes. Does anyone know why my Silverado wouldn’t have any readings on the connections?

    • @briancurtis8418
      @briancurtis8418 Год назад

      apparently new vehicles with the newer electronics built in won't send power to the pin unless it detects a load. so you won't get a reading on the meter.

  • @eirod
    @eirod Год назад

    There is no power going to the right blinker/brake light (right side) bad wire? Or what do you think?

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад

      If it's just the right side it's probably a bad wire.

    • @eirod
      @eirod Год назад +1

      @@PIFDIY i figured it out there are 2 extra 10 amp fuses for towing lights/turn signals under the drivers side steering wheel, behind the OBD2 reader.(At least for my vehicle) One of them was bad. Replaced it and it worked! I saw another RUclips video i will post link to it Incase anyone else sees this comment. Thank you for the video btw 🙌🏽

    • @eirod
      @eirod Год назад

      @@PIFDIY ruclips.net/video/Wy3tEUyuhYA/видео.html

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад +1

      @@eirod Ok Ivan, having two separate fuses (one for each side) explains how one side could be bad while the other good. Unusual set up I believe, glad you figured it out!

  • @mikedunn4283
    @mikedunn4283 10 месяцев назад

    why not wire right into the junction box?

  • @matthewcurrier3636
    @matthewcurrier3636 Год назад

    lovin the adds youtube

  • @chrisstepp3114
    @chrisstepp3114 Год назад

    Have power with pos and neg. But get nothing on any ither pin. What can cause that ?

    • @martinkuliza
      @martinkuliza Год назад +1

      ok
      i suppose "NOTHING" Specifically means NO VOLTAGE
      Ok do this (now keep in mind i'm in Sydney and you're probably in america) it's still ok though the concept is the same.
      you either have a round connector or flat connector (we use the flat one)
      the connectors are either 5 pin or 7 Pin
      we use the 5 pin version because we don't have brakes on our box trailers
      In any case, this is just Ohm's law, it's not complex , IT'S JUST A CIRCUIT AT THE END OF THE DAY and try to see it as such
      1. LET'S START WITH BRAKE LIGHTS (Brakes on the car, not on the trailer)
      - Is the key in the ignition ?
      - Do you have the car turned onto ACCESSORIES or either ENGINE ON ? if you're in Position 1 (The electricals are not on, it won't work)
      Basically we are confirming that the brake lights on the car work
      If you think it's all connected
      - Get someone to stand at the back of the car, Press the Brake and confirm that the brake lights come on
      (Do this without the trailer connected)
      if they don't come on (that's why the trailer lights are not coming on)
      Check fuse for the brake lights, Check wiring
      - Now connect your trailer
      Do the same again,
      IF THE CAR BRAKE LIGHTS DO NOT COME ON - You have a SHORT CIRCUIT from the connector to the back of the trailer somewhere in the wiring
      IF THE CAR BRAKE LIGHTS COME ON BUT THE TRAILER LIGHTS DO NOT - You have an OPEN CIRCUIT (Broken Wire somewhere)
      NOW ON THAT KNOWLEDGE
      with the trailer unplugged,
      CHECK BOTH INDICTORS AS WORKING
      CHECK IF THE NUMBER PLATE LIGHT LIGHTS UP (when either the car is ON or Key in the ACCESSORIES POSITION
      if this is all good, the problem is with your trailer (first and foremost)
      NOW.. IF THIS...
      "Have power with pos and neg. But get nothing on any ither pin. What can cause that ?"
      MEANS, You have No Power on any other pin AT THE TOE BAR CONNECTOR ON THE CAR........ it means the mechanic hasn't wired it correctly.
      if he has you should get all your voltages at the car connector
      if you're talking about ... at the other end
      then the trailer is the problem
      THE MOST COMMON CAUSE OF NOT GETTING VOLTAGE IS
      OPEN CIRCUIT or
      SHORT CIRCUIT
      Open Means... A Wire is broken somewhere.
      Short Means... 2 Wires that a not supposed to be touching are touching
      ALSO ARE YOU TESTING IT CORRECTLY ?
      ARE YOU SURE
      Your RED Probe goes onto a POSITIVE Pin
      Your BLACK Probe goes onto a NEGATIVE Pin or Ground
      If you test from a Positive to a Positive IT WILL READ 0V even though there is 12V Present
      Example.. If you put your probe on the RED Wire (the Brake Light) and then on the BLACK Wire (which is actually the Positive as well) YOU WILL GET A READING OF 0V or you will blow something
      The White Wire is Negative
      ALL THE WHITES SHOULD BE CONNECTED TOGETHER
      if they are not, you have an open circuit on multiple circuits
      which is .. what you are describing
      so let's say you have
      INDICATOR
      BRAKE LIGHT
      NUMBER PLATE LIGHT
      (this is 3 circuits, but you have to count the white wire from the car)
      so, this means there should be 4 Whites connected together
      You might find that 2 whites are connected and the other 2 are not
      THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE GETTING
      Because if the common ground is not connected, you have an Open Circuit
      Does that help

  • @Allworldsk1
    @Allworldsk1 Год назад

    Did you put some sides on the trailer yet

  • @wayawolf1967
    @wayawolf1967 9 месяцев назад

    "Blinker" AKA turn signal.

  • @GusgusA1
    @GusgusA1 11 месяцев назад

    the brake controller always live +?

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  11 месяцев назад

      I don't believe so. If you apply the brakes, the brake controller will put out a voltage on the pin. A proportional brake controller will vary the voltage on the pin depending on pedal pressure but voltage would be 0 when brake is not used.

    • @GusgusA1
      @GusgusA1 11 месяцев назад

      @@PIFDIY thank you

  • @SuperLAndrus
    @SuperLAndrus Год назад

    Use enough solder for those connections?

  • @wjx44
    @wjx44 Год назад

    Great video. What the heck is that huge watch you have?

  • @drillsergeant623
    @drillsergeant623 День назад

    Why would anybody think that most people have a multimeter more than they test light.

  • @RyansEverythingChannel
    @RyansEverythingChannel 11 месяцев назад

    Your explanation at the start about the pins is very vague.. You didn't explain when to turn on the car and what setting to put the multimeter on..

  • @howitsmade5865
    @howitsmade5865 11 месяцев назад

    Your Hand blocks everything!!!!

  • @scottcooner-fr9el
    @scottcooner-fr9el Год назад

    You never showed us what you said you was the trailer pin voltage

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/8FxnEwmmAnA/видео.html This will always be the same voltage as the car battery.

  • @TheFalconJetDriver
    @TheFalconJetDriver Год назад

    I have aSimpson 260🤣🛫 and I will be using tomorrow for that very reason it is analog! My brakes are not activating on a 2019 Casita. We have the Curt Echo remote brake Controller. It plugs in the 7 pin then the trailer plugs into the curt. My brakes stopped working a couple of weeks ago. The electro magnetic hums when activating the brakes with the app or by the car brakes. 🤯

  • @ElizabethFoster-wl7vm
    @ElizabethFoster-wl7vm Год назад

    Your hands are in the way. I can't see what you doing which is what I want to see. Where do the probs go?

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад

      Elizabeth, refer to the diagram in the upper right in my video. Put the black probe on the "-12VDC Ground" and the red probe on any of the circuits that you are testing. For example, to test the trailer running lights, put the black probe on "-12VDC Ground" and the red probe on "Running Lights" according to the diagram. When testing, make sure that your multimeter is set to measure DC volts and the ignition is on. For things like brakes lights, you may need someone in the car to apply the brakes.

    • @ElizabethFoster-wl7vm
      @ElizabethFoster-wl7vm Год назад

      @@PIFDIY Thank you so much for this information. I rely on these videos to make sure I'm doing it right.

  • @deleaud
    @deleaud 8 месяцев назад

    "Nobody shows you how to do it with a multi-meter... and neither do I" 🙄

  • @codyadcock6214
    @codyadcock6214 7 месяцев назад

    No jp

  • @homeytube1
    @homeytube1 Год назад

    Hey! I have an analog meter!!!

  • @leonardwood8024
    @leonardwood8024 Год назад

    Do it over without showing your hands and forearms...

  • @timhill3330
    @timhill3330 Год назад

    Thanks for blocking the view wasn't helpful

  • @atv55803
    @atv55803 Год назад

    spray bomb your trailer 3 can a paint will bring it back to new look easy fix

  • @niemdan
    @niemdan Год назад +3

    Some engineer out there needs to forget about trying to figure out how to add another computer, make your truck drive itself, over complicate the exhaust to appease the EPA, and make a simple FUCKING wiring harness that lasts more than 2 years! Also, this guy is one of the few people on RUclips that correctly knows how to troubleshoot with a multimeter. Teach your kids this cause chatAI is not going to wipe their ass and fix the trailer lights for them. This Country needs more mechanics and less computer. Rant over, thank you

    • @ns6029
      @ns6029 22 часа назад

      To test a 7-pin trailer connection with a multimeter, follow these steps:
      1. **Set Up the Multimeter**: Turn on your multimeter and set it to measure voltage (DC voltage).
      2. **Identify the Pins**: Refer to a 7-pin trailer connector diagram to identify the pins:
      - Pin 1: Ground (usually white)
      - Pin 2: Tail/Marker lights (usually brown)
      - Pin 3: Left turn/brake light (usually yellow)
      - Pin 4: Right turn/brake light (usually green)
      - Pin 5: Backup lights (usually blue)
      - Pin 6: Brake controller output (usually red or black)
      - Pin 7: 12V power supply (usually black or red)
      3. **Connect the Multimeter**:
      - **Ground**: Place the black (negative) probe on the ground pin (Pin 1).
      - **Power Supply**: Place the red (positive) probe on the 12V power pin (Pin 7). You should read 12V or higher if the vehicle’s ignition is on.
      4. **Test Each Pin**:
      - **Tail/Marker Lights**: Turn on the vehicle’s lights and place the red probe on the tail/marker light pin (Pin 2). You should read voltage.
      - **Left Turn/Brake Light**: Activate the left turn signal and place the red probe on the left turn/brake light pin (Pin 3). You should see the voltage pulsing with the turn signal. Press the brake pedal and check for a constant voltage.
      - **Right Turn/Brake Light**: Activate the right turn signal and place the red probe on the right turn/brake light pin (Pin 4). You should see the voltage pulsing with the turn signal. Press the brake pedal and check for a constant voltage.
      - **Backup Lights**: Place the vehicle in reverse and place the red probe on the backup light pin (Pin 5). You should read voltage.
      - **Brake Controller Output**: If you have a brake controller, place the red probe on the brake controller output pin (Pin 6) and activate the controller to check for voltage.
      5. **Check for Ground**: Switch the multimeter to continuity mode. Place one probe on the ground pin (Pin 1) and the other on a known ground point on the vehicle chassis. You should hear a beep or see a zero reading, indicating continuity.
      ### Safety Tips:
      - Make sure the vehicle's ignition is off before connecting or disconnecting the multimeter to avoid short circuits.
      - Be cautious when working with electrical connections to prevent any accidental shorts or damage.
      This method ensures that each pin is correctly providing the expected voltage, confirming the functionality of your 7-pin trailer connection.

  • @TheFalconJetDriver
    @TheFalconJetDriver Год назад

    I would not have soldered those wires, I would have used but splice connectors with heat shrink tubing. In airplanes wires are not soldered due vibrations can break the soldered joint. If two wires need to be connected they connected vis terminal block or but spliced.😁🛫

    • @PIFDIY
      @PIFDIY  Год назад

      I have to disagree. The aviation industry may have developed that solution for airplanes but that doesn't make it a best practice for all environments. The vibrations and shock to the wiring of a road going trailer are totally different. A passenger or cargo jet in constant service would subject its electronics and wiring to long term sustained vibrations at a frequency/amplitude that are determined by its propulsion and buffeting. Not nearly the same environment as a trailer that's pulled over a road surface.
      This is one of those rabbit hole discussions and imo both solutions would work fine in my application as long as they're done PROPERLY.

    • @martinkuliza
      @martinkuliza Год назад

      I'm an Engineer
      I WOULD HAVE SOLDERED THEM (and i did on my trailer)
      So long as you solder correctly
      - Clean solder tip
      - Use Flux
      - Heatshrink the connections
      - Waterproof the connections
      - Secure them in something like conduit or a junction box
      - Then waterproof the conduit and / or Junction box
      But comparing a trailer to an airplane is ridiculous, You can't compare a trailer to Avionics LOL
      You can use a termination block (FYI, it's TERMINATION BLOCK, Not Terminal Block), that's fine, but it depends on how much space you have as well.
      but as for solder joints... IT'LL BE FINE MATE, I've done this for years with my mates, and on my own trailer, going on 15 years now.. Still not a single problem.
      My mates who did it themselves with knife connectors, THEY FELL OFF OR BROKE OFF
      My joints are still going good
      again... IF YOU DO IT PROPERLY .... it works