Women v. She-Hulk | Jaynalysis
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:43 - What's She-Hulk?
2:35 - The Plots
5:21 - The Humor
8:07 - The Editing/SFX
12:09 Gender Portrayals: Women
18:27 - Madisynn King
21:09 - Gender Portrayals: Men
25:10 - Changes
28:13 - Final Thoughts
29:28 - THAT Post Credit Scene
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Fans & contributing members of the show's production seem to be under the misguided notion that men who critique, review, or analyze the show "JUST DON'T GET IT" so instead of being yet another RUclipsr that they'd deem invalid (no matter how well articulated my points are), I decided to have women analyze it instead.
I like this idea but I’d do t agree with some of their analysis and interpretations of the show and it’s premise.
don’t forget the classic defence they love making: just let people have fun!
I'd don't know if anyone of you care if you "Get It" or not. Whatever that means. Nobody is talking about who she is and has been since her inception. She's always been an over the top meta character dealing with mundane life stuff like Spiderman. This show missed the mark in a lot of ways.
@@ShawnWeeded510 How so?
You can tell when a show or movie is made by a group of men who are angry at the world and themselves, you can tell when a show or movie is made by a group of women who are angry at the world and themselves too.
She Hulk wasn't made for men OR women, it was made with hatred for both.
Interesting view, definitely not a show for fans
I think it's funny how many of us like Wong and Madison.
Probably one of the only parts of the show I remember not disliking by the end
You mean madisynn
@@peytonheilman she would be mad at my phones autocorrect getting her name wrong
@@peytonheilman never forget the 2 n's and a y
@@Carlinisalive They're not where you thinkkk
@@Carlinisalive but not where you thiiiinnnnnnnk
It felt to me that ladies in this video were "pulling back on their punches", because in this day and age if you express your honest opinion you get lumped into one the hate groups. Honest critique shouldn't be viewed as hate, because in the end we just want good entertainment, that's all.
12:50 Just a nitpick, but the fact that the world of the MCU wasn't completely leveled by the Hulk is proof enough that Bruce/Hulk can control his rage.
That has nothing to do with ith his control of his anger because there have been many times that Bruce could not control the hulk to a paint where he was stuck in hulk form for 2 years.
@@mangamandrew A) according to Bruce himself he's always angry and B) he wasn't stuck in the hulk form for two years because of his anger. That was an internal struggle he was having between his two personalities, not anger.
@@ScottCleve33 Okay, being always angry is not the same as controlling your anger. And even if we consider the point of personality differences, the hulk personality is fueled by emotions and only comes out when his life is threatened. Sure, personality may play a part but this could still mean that Bruce does not have full control of his emotions.
@@mangamandrew When he said that he's always angry was saying that he's able to control that anger. He turns green when either he let's the anger take control or when he's no longer able to control his anger.
This is why once he turns into the hulk he needs to be calmed down by Natshia. At this point his anger is out of his control and in the control of the hulk.
@@ScottCleve33 I don’t consider letting go of you anger as control or at least complete control. The implication is that you need to have more or less complete control so you don’t bulk out randomly. And we see with Bruce that he can’t always control how high his emotions get without others influences.
The point is that he Ben if he has “control,” he can’t keep himself out of the hulk persona.
You know women? Good job!
Also, it’s funny that you see people saying “men complain about this show” and decide to show women don’t like it either.
Exactly, I wanted to show that perspective.
"Like what's going on with She Hulk and Daredevil? I just... Okay... What... Okay... I... What...?"
Or better known as:
"Have you had a dream... That you... Um... You had... Uh..."
Hannah is my hero!!!! I paused and rewatched her contribution to this video so many times. 🤣🤣 I love this idea, it's my favorite analysis of the show.
Jayniac hitting us with a 33 minute reverse uno card.
Digging the new updated intro btw
I like how you put the post credits as the post credits 🤣
Somebody send this video to everyone who worked on She-Hulk , especially Tatiana and Jessica. Hell , send this to Kevin too
This was kinda refreshing to see, as the ladies had both positive AND negative things to say. Whereas, in my experience, there are very polarizing opinions. It validates your point when you can tell positive and negative things about a subject, because it shows that you have considered a broader view of the subject matter.
Also I like what the one lady said about the 4th wall breaks and Modern Family. I've always wondered why talking to the audience works sometimes and not others. Makes a lot more sense now, why I dislike the 4th wall breaks in She-Hulk.
This is a very creative way of discussing the series
Thank you for watching!
This was a genius idea 😂
Thank you!
Great video Jay and great commentary everyone!
honestly this show felt very much like marvel going "what? you'll watch it". i don't doubt that there was genuine love behind the show from the people involved with it but it definitely felt like marvel a) didn't know what kind of show they wanted to be and b) didn't really care about it being good or well-crafted. the tone is all over the place - they seem to both want to be a sitcom within the marvel universe (which is the direction they should have gone with, in my opinion) and a poignant social commentary (which is where it fell flat more often than not) and ultimately failed at being either. i haven't been able to put my finger on why i don't really enjoy the show in spite of being a huge fan of tatiana from her orphan black days and generally enjoying the main characters and it's not even as if i hate the show. i just feel like it's capable of more but no one involved with getting it made cared about it reaching the potential it held.
Early!! This is an interesting video idea :)
Hope you enjoyed it!
Only one 2 of them had a genuine insight that would improve the show. Who hated on Jessica Jones? I didn’t see that much hate. Jess was dope. Jessica tackled feminism in such a natural realistic way without pandering to scenarios that don’t happen everyday.
I could forgive it if:
1. They didn't make almost every male character incompetent or an asshole
2. If Jen didn't try to equate what she goes through to Bruce's entire life
3. If the writer actually knew about She-Hulk
1.I don’t think they make almost every male character incompetent or an asshole. There was like only one incompetent male and the males who are assholes are literally evil.
2. She is not comparing he entire life with how Bruce went through but that she as a women had better control over her anger than Bruce does which is not as far fetched as you may think. She is not saying that she is better than Bruce but that she can cotrol her anger better which is more likely the case because how Bruce can’t willing transform in an out of the Hulk form at will.
3. And I would say the writers know about she-hulk but that the she-hulk in the show won’t and can’t be a one for one like the she hulk in the comics for one season.
The show really showed a lot of asshole male characters in the begining outside of Pug and maybe her boss. But as the show progressed she met Wong, Daredevil (obviously) and Abomination and his entire male group of therapy guys
@Manga Man Drew 1. Wong was absolutely incompetent as the sorcerer supreme because the sorcerer supreme handles the mystical threats to the universe, and he chose literally the most physical foe he could find besides Hulk and brought him to a crowded area of people even though Abomination could have raged out and killed everyone in the arena, and didn't even consider he was breaking someone out of prison. Then by the last episode still does not care that he broke Abomination out of prison.
2. Definitely not true by the last episode. For someone who could control her anger she assaulted Wrecker when he was absolutely no threat to her, and had assaulted people that were no threat to her.
3. Gao has admitted to never reading a She-Hulk comic. Maybe one or two writers in the room have read a comic or two, but their 'expertise' were not taken into account. She will never be the She-Hulk in the comics because that would require character development and to humble the character in some way. She's an insecure narcissist and in no way heroic, it would be a complete rewrite to make Jen even mildly similar to her comic version
Women are simple just like men, nice to see.
I actually enjoy the divergence from the typical Marvel show or movie. I want to see a superhero legal drama. I know everyone isn’t a fan of this phase but we’re still setting up the groundwork for more things, it’s hard when your original cast’s characters are dead or some else took over the mantle. I’m so glad something fun like She Hulk happened to the MCU but I wish it had 3 more episodes for character development for Titania and other characters but other than that, I absolutely ADORED it! I loved Jen so much and I think she’s the most relatable character for femme people. Props to the writing team for trying to make something new and keep it fresh!
If they had stuck with She hulk personality in the comic books this would be a timeless classic just saying
I feel that we are getting closer to that personality throughout the show.
@@mangamandrew If they had tried that harder and earlier they could have made something where both men and women could both enjoy
@@doomcool7960 i would argue it is a show both women and men can enjoy. And how much harder and more can they do to try and condense decades worth of character into a 9 episode series.
@@mangamandrew Well in the comics Jenifer Walters was unlike her cousin was happier albeit cause she can control it. It was funny to see her sleep around cause yeah Jen was like a female Tony stark but less ego and more laid back. One thing it missed was the fact to actually react and address the absurdity that would be the marvel universe's' laws since she lives in the world of the supernatural since it was supposed to be a comedy. Overall I wasn't too happy with the male bashing it was funny to an extent but now it seems like it was going out of its way to annoy people. And the ending was bad if you allow yourself to acknowledge internet trolls then it shows them they have power encouraging them to keep doing it. Also this she-hulk character wise was weak
@@doomcool7960 I would say tha it does address some things f the absurdity of the marvel universe it not to the same extent. And the series was not male bashing but bashing on horrible men. There were many men still ch as Pug and even Abomination that were being genuine good men. And I thought the ending was at the very least different than most marvel endings. Sure, recognizing their existence can encourage them more but ignoring them completely is not a good thing. At the very least, the show brings attention to who those kind of people are and in a way let’s people know what they do and how to avoid them.
I bounced off of it with a vengance while really REALLY wanting to like it cuz I absolutely love comic and fighting game she hulk
i think i am the only one that likes the lawyer stuff
I mean the show was…eh. It exists. That’s all I can say. Daredevil was the best part.
The show was.
31:53 Men do not slap each on the ass. At least not in public outside of sporting events and i don't even know if they still do that. Women on the other hand not only slap eaches others asses but they also kiss each other, twerk on each other, grab each others ass and boobs, etc. Now there are two reasons this is a problem. One, if a straight man does any of those things I said to another straight man, he'd get called gay and/or punched in the face. Two, while most people can agree a guy grabbing a girls ass was never appropriate, it wasn't really something people made a huge deal of like they do today. The girl would probably get upset (probably because in the 50s, 60s, and 70s they didn't care), so would her bf and maybe brother but that's it. Nowadays EVERYBODY has a problem with that but won't say anything if a girl does the same thing to a guy or acts inappropriately by humping him. Admittedly I usely see that in TikTok videos but that doesn't change the fact that it's just as wrong if a guy does it to her, yet nobody cares because guys did it to women for so long it's only fair they do it now, which is dumb double standard logic.
I loved the show tbh
thank you for compiling their opinions.
I was searching for Balance, since I often watch male youtuber dissect and critize show, like Critical Drinker or It'sAGundam.
And since this show was highly debated over the "Message", I really wanted to get the opinion from the otherside.
So thank you for bringing balance in my opinions
What dude slaps random people on the ass at their job…
A majority of what the media makes men seem like. I understand that there are men who do that but it’s like I’ve been seeing that type of stereotype in like everything I’ve watched since the metoo era
I think the show is fine and enjoyable. I enjoyed the humor mixed with the references, characters, and 4th wall breaks. I understand people don’t like it but I enjoyed it.
Appreciate that you at least understand why some of us dislike it.
This is a good video due it good crictism because all I heard about the show is its gone so far woke and that type of criticism is tiring and just posses me off.
This show is an accurate depiction of how modern feminism leads to misery and repels most good men 😂
I understand about 90% of their views but the only thing I disagree with is that there wasn't enough superhero stuff in this superhero show. I can't agree with it because it's not a superhero show. it a legal drama (even if it was very lacking in the legal aspect
I think something people overlooked about She Hulk is the very first episode makes it clear it's not going to be a "superhero show". It's a lawyer comedy with superhero elements. Maybe the show didn't achieve that balance like they hoped, but I never saw it as that.
Also one of them hit the nail of the head about he roles being flipped on how the female characters seemed deeper than the males. It was so subtle that I didn't realize it until she said it.
Also one other said what I was thinking about the twerk scene. I thought it was a way for her try accepting herself as She Hulk in that form.
The problem i personally have with the show is not that it's not meant to be a super hero show. It's the fact that it fails at being what it is meant to be. It's supposed to be a legal comedy, but the legal stories aren't really the core of the show, they are almost a secondary background element. It's supposed to be a sitcom, but the humor isn't paced like a sitcom. And it's not nearly as funny as most comedy shows i've seen. I've even seen sitcoms with humor i didn't like, that i felt were funnier...
The flipping the riles part i kind of disagree with... They didn't flip the roles of portraying women as stereotypical caricatures and men as deep characters. They just portrayed everyone as stereotypical caricatures...
I'm not sure how you can call it a lawyer show considering that Jessica Gao's team publicly admitted that they didn't know anything about the American legal system. Or superheroes. Or comedy, for that matter.
Also about the twerking scene… I hope they remove it when Meg goes to jail…
I thought the season finale made the entire series pointless.
I thought they would say they hate the show and tell us why. Three women admitted some women actually feel like Jen, but they didn't wanna see it. They wanted a progressive woman. I didn't really have a problem until the finale. Todd Hulk made sense. So why would they get rid of him in the rewrite? Also Titania didn't make sense.
24:50 we’re upset because almost every male was made to be dumb and damn near sexiest. Every male was darn near on par with the Madison lol with a y
Pug was precious come on. Show Pug some love.
Imagine calling a grown man precious....
@@ninjanibba4259 Imagine not
@@austindrinksfanta don't have to, it's not normal to do
This is the problem with the MCU now. They've taken a genera that was mostly for men and is trying to adapt it so appeal to women and alienating their original target audience. Sure, the MCU can target women but can't they do it while also still appealing to their original fan base?
Cool can I have your analysis of the show though
Fans & contributing members of the show's production seem to be under the misguided notion that men who critique, review, or analyze the show "JUST DON'T GET IT" so instead of being yet another RUclipsr that they'd deem invalid (no matter how well articulated my points are), I decided to have women analyze it instead.
Honestly, I find it offensive that women’s criticisms of this show are more valid than men’s criticisms because according to whoever women are the intended audience. The creators of She Hulk have behaved like narcissistic abusers, insulting and gaslighting the audience. So much of their behavior is equivalent to a DARVO attack on the core Marvel fan base. It is despicable.
that isn't fully true its not that women criticisms are more valid it's that most women in male-dominated places like marvel were made to fit the male gaze such as having daddys lil monster on their shirt you find it offensive but do not understand as these same places have catered to men in almost every way except for placing harmful gender norms on boys and girls feel offended if you want but she hulk is the best female protagonist we are gonna get for a long time in places like marvel. just like in disney we do not get many black protagonists and if we do they are a fudging frog for the whole movie or have a race change to blue or another color and a lot of gentlemen that speak on these things come from a toxic masculine misogynistic privileged point of view valid male criticisms are okay. however ones that are like "I don't like she hulk she doesn't look like a 12 year old girl with certain features then I'm gonna hate on it" or the classic "women shouldn't have their own show or movie" see women hold back on criticism on these type of things because we know it is not the best but if we complain it will be an excuse to not make anymore or to exclude us completely we tell certain men they don't get it because at the end of the day they don't have to hope for a male superhero or a male president or a male in power or work twice as hard to achieve it and only get half as far however women do have whatever opinion you like on it but at least try to understand women feel the way they do instead of coming from a place of ignorance.
It's nothing but man hating filler.
Nope
@@austindrinksfanta yup
@@brocks1stop342 nah.
@@aaliyahtalley9149 yeah
@@brocks1stop342 nah
was a Ok Show... but most ppl like the MCU die hard fan overhyped the show, and can't accept for what it is!!!
was not a good Superhero series and they didn't do a good job portraying her as a good Lawyer show.. soo felt short on both ends!
The writers need to watch Jessica Jones season 1 and 2 that's a Woman Superhero show!!
I was kind a hoping that these ladies would admit why men aren’t watching the show. Each one of the subject points that they bring up are subject points that men don’t think about or care about in there every day lives. I know the ladies were completely perplexed about hair choices and what she was going to wear to a wedding or on a professional level but I’m sorry, men just don’t give a rats ass about this stuff.
The show is awful