Thank you for bringing my attention to this product. I love well-engineered equipment and this was really smartly designed. I don't have the budget for pedals at this price range, but they will be in my mind if I ever fall into enough money to afford them.
I don't care how good they are. I'm not moving from my HE sprints now that I've got them set exactly how I want them and have learnt exactly how to use them. Great video as always 😊
@@SIMRIG412 actually they are not better 😁 I had HE for 3 years on my rig and I have to admit those here feels much better and have some advantages as well !
Very informative video as always buddy, not to mention that your video production is up there with the very best that I've seen on RUclips. Keep up the great work my friend.
Your report is great, thank you, it's nice to be presented with a developer/manufacturer in advance and to hear and see their philosophy on the product. The pedals are so casual and beautiful. I already fell in love with them in the video, but now they are installed LIVE at home, a DREAM. The adjustment possibilities are unbelievable - you can feel every change and everything is so simple and straightforward. It's fun to find your setup on the rig. It is a matter of seconds. The parts are certainly built to last. I don't have a problem with the space, as I only have a size 42 shoe ;-). What I noticed immediately during assembly on the RIG is that the groove stones for the plate months on the RIG are incorrectly chosen. They should be at least M6 nuts and screws, as the small ones supplied are just unnecessary/troublesome fiddling. The ride/response is so different from the V3 pedals (despite oil dampers and CS elastomers) that I would never have imagined (the Talento are also much more compact). Everything feels so smooth. 100% recommendation and worth every euro!
Great video as always!!!! Can't wait to see your opinion on the moza as I hold your words in high regard! Keep doing what your doing man the videos are amazing!
I’m very surprised to be honest with this little monster! The last 3 weeks is under hard pressure on my rig and I haven’t found yet any floats! Few more test in the upcoming week and I will give my full opinion 😊 Thx for the trust buddy! I try to do my best for the community 🍻
Update. I have purchased this pedal set. The quality of manufacturing and easy of adjustment are top shelf. I’ve been running these pedals for about 10 days now and I’m glad I purchased them. I live in the states and Purchased them thru Ricmotech. I contacted Ricmotech by phone and ImSim thru email they always gave me a quick response on this pedal set. The software doesn’t get alone with Iracing and I do wish the pedal plate was a tad wider. I just use Iracing so the software is a non issue for me. i just calibrated the pedals in Iracing and they work great. Highly recommend to anyone considering upgrading their sim rig.
@JohnLewis-gi5vp how you feel the throttle pedal , I came from a F V3 with dumper kit on the throttle. I feel the talento throttle to soft, I put them on the stiffer settings. I really appreciate your feed back
Good morning RBM - as always a very informative, technical & precise review - great job bruv - keep well & safe ...... where have you been over the last several weeks been missing your posts.
That support plate is also very comfortable with the curve in front which I forgot to mention 😃 very clever move as I many times want to rest my feet in different position and wast ideal with flatter plates
wow .. you can see the engineering intelligence that goes into these. I love the fact that you went in slightly skeptical and slowly turned around by what you saw I am pretty fully stuck in the Fantatec ecosystem at the moment with V3 pedals and a DD1 / manual shifter / handbrake do you know if they play well together ? great vid as ever hope all is well M
Yeh Mark , I usually have skeptical approach to new things and products and really love wen some of those surprise me in positive way 😃 Those guys have done something very unique for us the Simracing enthusiast and I think we are very picky and hard to be happy 🤣 About the V3 , I had those for few years and they are ok but you will be happy upgrading them at some point! I remember replacing the V3 with Heusinkveld Pro at the time was noticeable and those here are definitely much better then anything else even had 😃 Big hug and thx for the support as always brother 🍻
Great video as usual. Love your content. Understand and setting up brakes can be difficult at times do you have any videos covering brakes/learning to brake
@@chepilevski oh sweet Jesus ! That would be great. I just got the whole Moza set up, the R9, GS wheel and SRP pedals. That would be great things have changed alot.
You have a similarly positive review of the Simagic P2000 pedals. Between the two which would you recommend? Factoring in the imsims are more expensive
They are different and hard to compare! I prefer the the brake feeling from Simagic which is dual pump / spring based and feels bit more like the real thing! That being said, the Imsim are here to last forever and supper easy adjustable! In Simagic there are more things to fail in the future but they may not fail at all in the next 10 years ! The Imsim plates are bit more comfortable too ! If I have only one choice, the safe will be the Talento ! But again, it is so hard to suggest one over another as they are both great and so different 🙈
@@chepilevski As you say, it's your feeling, but I find your opinions always so clear and precise. And if you had to choose between the Simagic ultimate and the simucube 2 pro, which would you choose? Because I'm not sure which one to choose... I have seen your comparison video but I don't know which one to choose...
@@meneo13 the Simucube will be the safest choice right now ! I will be able to fully support the Simagic ultimate a year from now depending on my experience but the SC2 is a base which is tested beyond the limits and I haven’t had any problems till now !
@@meneo13 I never had single problem with there software and have gone trough many updates but have seen some complaints from others! That must be windows problems probably so , it is hard to have clear answer on that ! But again, me personally never had single issue!
So,very good as always but my question is…which takes you close to reality hydraulic or loadsell not considering the price or the maintenance that needed?And how much difference they have on the feeling between them?
There is no black and white answer to this. Hydraulics add some fluid friction, but hardly noticeable. And race car pedals are set up to driver preference; pedal boxes can be swapped out on most classes so you can't really say one set feels like a race car and another one doesn't.
@@Draecko So how can we the buyers know what is best to “simulate” a real car? Because at the end of a day that’s why we do it,buying high end products to simulate a real car.
@@roadrunner_77 check e.g the videos on Lando Norris brake pedal travel in his Mclaren F1 car. Most likely a much harder brake than in any other car but the travel is quite long. Everything is individual on what you like and prefer. What you can see in those videos do not correspond to having e.g, the stiffest delrin bushing in your SIM where the pedal barely moves as is often is stated to give the most consistent braking. I believe there is also video footage of other drivers where the brake travel is not has much as an example, but difficult to know how hard they actually are pressing the pedal I do track my MX5, with track pads and fluid with brembos, sure it is not the best brakes setup on the market but still there is a bit of travel and if I setup my brake pedal in SIM to be the stiffest or crank the loadcell to max on my Sprint-pedals it is nothing like in the real car
Honestly, I never felt anything I ever tested close to real brakes as I think big part of the feeling of the brakes comes from the Gforces and unfortunately we don’t have that ! That’s just my personal opinion and honestly I mostly looks how I perform on track and how comfortable I feel not just from the use but from driving point of view !
I’m looking for a brake pedal that has feeling while not at 100%. Trail braking I want to feel the pressure there still. The reviews on the VRS say with the spring and the elastomers you get more of that feeling
It depends honestly! The hydraulic have very unique and different feel which I love but there is always chance of failure! Those here can be set as well to have little more travel and be softer! That is really hard call as it will be personal preference in feeling! Those are two very different pedals to be compared to each other and whatever I think may be completely different for you buddy! Both sets are really the greatest for there class and you must decide if you want to go Hydraulic or Elastomers load cell based pedals!
I love the P2000 and is hard to compare those two as they are very different ! The Simagic are absolutely awesome for the money and I love the feeling from the springs and the dual pump and the throttle is probably the best I ever drove with and those here are super adjustable and will last forever probably!
As a mechnical engineer I love this(even though I am not working with mechanical engineering lol). Seems like a very nicely designed piece of kit. Have you tried the Asetek Invicta? The Aseteks don't seem to have the same level of adjustability though And thank you for the informative videos
I haven’t tested the Asatek but those are definitely one of the most and fastest adjustable pedals I ever tested on my rig ! Thx for the support buddy 🤛
Hey man , I haven’t tested the SimTrecs but they definitely looks great ! I definitely love those more the anything else I had tested but can’t give clear answers to your question 🙈
Máster !!! I need a feedback. I was with Fanatec V3 and go for the Talento. I fell the throttle feel , from me feels soft , I put All the stiff on the talento. It’s That normal ? Please let me know need your feed back since you test a lot of pedals. May be the V3 from F, feels unreal.
Hey bro , the talento throttle is for sure my favorite from all I ever tested! If feels too soft on hardest settings just drive for week and your muscles will get used to the new forces! But again, check if you have dial the hardest settings!
I obey you master I put them on the stiff position , and still feel soft , for me. Well it’s my second day of test may be I need my muscle memory reset. I let you know in a couple of weeks. I was Just to buy the CC SP01 but I will wait a couple of weeks. 🙌
@@chepilevski Hi again :) Tested the pedals, but have to say, that I sent them back. They are good, but I didn't like the light throttle and the clutch with it's weak bite point. Otherwise they are good pedals, but compared to my Ultimates+ not as good for me. But you never know, maybe others will find that they are much better, it's very subjective.
Great review, I just bought these and having a hard time deciding what elastomers and how much preload to go with, what was your preferred setup? Thanks!
First thing was to get read from the spring buddy as I don’t like those two stages feeling and I believe doesn’t make any favor of the muscle memory! I would suggest first to take that spring off and then go trough the different elastomers to find what works best for your driving stile ! Give at least week to each change! I end up with the stock one (big white elastomer) as I have pain in my left leg in long sessions!
@@chepilevski Hey! I've been using the pedals for a few weeks now and have had this odd issue of the throttle getting stuck at 100% every now and then. It completely ruins my race and leaves me unmotivated. I love the pedals and have contacted imsim for solutions and switched to the USB cable with ferrite cores from my V3 but the issue still occurs. Did you have any issue like this with pedals before and do you have any ideas for a solution? Thanks!
@@chepilevski Just wanted to say that I made a grounding wire connected to the throttle pedal and haven't had an issue since! Did you do anything without the brake spring to stop it from bouncing back at all? Sometimes I feel the brake rattle a bit since without the spring, I can't 'lock" the brake piston in. Thanks and loving the videos!
Honestly I’m really, really pleasantly surprised with this little sucker man ! I still try to wrap around my head how they achieve that ! Absolutely awesome FFB , really fast and till now after few weeks of torture is going absolutely perfect! I will push it for another week and set the review and hope to have the choice to test the rest of the line 💪
They are indeed buddy 😃 750€ for the two pedals + 270€ for the clutch + 120€ the pedal plate and heal rest + I think 170€ for the advanced kit ! I found myself using mostly the two pedals honestly with the cars I drove but is nice we have choices to upgrade the rest 💪
@@chepilevski they are definatlely worth the price. Im guessing they are only pc compatible. Does the company make wheel bases and wheels or is it just the pedals?
@@greymonleggomon1185 they have very slick motion simulator and they told me they have future projects but no further info! I’m honestly very excited to see what else will they bring on the table 😃 Those are PC only I believe buddy 🤛
@@chepilevski thanks for the info. Good luck in your upcoming e series races. Will you livestream any of them on RUclips id be interested in watching you. Maybe watching you will help me become a faster driver.
@@greymonleggomon1185 I’m not sure if I will life stream but will definitely record the races and share ! I also want to make some tutorials about driving improvements 🤛
I won’t say they are much better buddy! The P2000 and those here cannot be compared honestly as they are completely different ! I love both and the P2000 as hydraulic with dumper super smooth throttle and aluminum design are really good for the price and those here as top of the elastomers \spring based with so many adjustability options and top quality build are the best I’ve tested till now from that group! If I had single choice I would go for the Talento not because they are better in feeling but because they will last forever! That being said, I love the P2000 a lot !
Thanks for the video bringing up the pedals on my radar! You have any comparison to VRS or Venym Pedals? Hope I can test them all at the Expo in December!
I saw so many Videos from you , i have a vrs DD Base with 20 nm and old TLCM Loadcell Pedals ans want top Upgrade them . But i dont have any Idea wich . I want a Brake Pedal with more travel and i think a 100kg Loadcell ist enough. Do you have a recommandation for me ?
The loadcell capacity doesn’t matter that much as everything is about geometry of the pedals and how they use the pressure on the cell itself! That being said , many pedals on the market can achieve what you need starting from HE sport which are the most known! Depending on the money you want to spend you can look for the Imsim Talento which I currently use and they can be set to any feel you will ever want to Simagic which are the other set I use often and have that hydraulic feel ! Definitely avoid the Asatek as those are great but with short movement! The VRS are also brutal!
@@chepilevski yeah thank you , the vrs are in the Mix ,but i saw the imsim . I dont know wich one to Go now . I'm afraid of the sqeeking from the VRS but they are cheaper in Germany. I personally would Go Up to 1200€
@@KabelSalat_ I haven’t ever tested the VRS but I’m impressed off there build! About the Imsim, those are pedals which I can fully suggest, they really are tank built and if you take the brake kit you will achieve anything you want with them ! That’s being said , I ended using just the normal elastomer from the stick settings as that have little more travel which I personally prefer and is up to 77kg pressure on the pedal plate 😃 With anything above that I hurt my knee and honestly as much as I go hardest setting that much less travel I get which doesn’t work well for my driving stile !
Another really great review ! I own the VRS pedal right now, which I kind of like. They are great to achieve easily the threshold braking point, however they lack a little bit on the brake feeling side. Does anybody have compare the VRS to the Talento by any chance ? Thanks a lot
Hope your well buddy. So the question is how does the brake compare too the hydraulic simagic we both have? Also so you recommend getting the foot support for the simagic pedals as they do make one for the throttle just not the brake as imsim do.
The Simagic are different feelings as you know to any elastomer based brake ! I love the Simagic a lot but and I really can’t compare those two to each other! For driving having bit more option on the brake from the Imsim Talento and the very quick adjustability plus those will last forever which is big advantage but if you like the feeling of the Hydraulic system and not afraid of liquid failure Simagic is the best bay for the money!
Great job on the video. I wonder what is different about those elastomers? All elastomers I've tried still have that bounce feeling. Switching to springs with the simagic fixed that. I can visually see it is better on a graph. Maybe you could post a graph of your brake traces?
Elastomers have indeed that bouncy feeling and the Simagic springs with the dual pump is for sure completely different experience! The problem with most of the elastomers from other pedals is they don’t use stopes and goes beyond work limits but that bouncy feeling you are talking about is just elastomers property ! With the short strong elastomers is not that pronounced because of the travel!
I love the P2000 and I have to say they are one of the best I ever had ! They feel different to those as they use completely different approach and have lots of options for different feelings as well ! The main thing you have to consider is they can fail with the years because of the liquid they use and the traditional loadcell / springs based pedals are virtually immortal! Otherwise, I really really love my P2000!
Hey man, I love the channel! Thank you for everything you do! I was about to purchase the SIM magic P 2000 until I saw this video and I wanted to ask you how did they compare?
It is very hard to compare those two as they are very different from every point of view man ! I love the Simagic a lot and they have very unique feel I. Every pedal! Those here are monsters which will last forever and have crazy adjustability! I driven right now on those here and they are more comfortable but the Simagic brake pedal and throttle are better in feel for me ! Honestly for me is almost impossible to suggest one over the other 🙈 It is something that must be experience first hand !
More comfortable versus feel better is always very different and very difficult compromise to make! Lol! For someone newer, and going up from a G29 pedal set, which would you recommend?
@@alluracreativeagency if you take the talento , those will be the last pedals you will ever get in your sim carrier as those will really last for ever and stay like new for very long time ! Much more engineering though behind for sure and definitely the top elastomer based I ever tested ! The Simagic feels awesome with the dual pump system! Because you insist to give you advice which way you have to go , if you ware my brother for example I would say definitely go for the Talento as they will work for 100 years and they are super comfortable! Simagic are awesome but I will always have the concern about all those moving part which can go wrong at some point! Pump , dumpers , liquid etc ! At the end of the day , both will make you happy but the Talento will have much longer life time !
Thank you so much! I really do appreciate that! Your review is the reason that I got the alpha and not the U or Mini, and so I wanted to know if you thought joining their family with the pedal set would make sense but I am concerned about the huge learning curve and a lot of extra moving parts and potential points of failure! Lol! Thanks again brother!
May personal favorite are the Talento overall from price point of view and use ! The CC have better brake pedal feel for sure and look more beautiful for sure but those here are very solid with amazing throttle feel and very comfortable with those big plates for less money 😃
@@chepilevski👌👌👌 just to keep forward. The talento base it’s really necessary? I’m asking because I’m from Chile , and include will be rai$$e the total price and taxes. If I can made a custom one please 🙏 let me know
I go to court soon so hoping i be rady to buy everything to get going and i will be wanting to talk to you when time comes for your OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!! SIR!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Again!!!!
I’m between theses and one other brand. I just got one question? These are new two the market and the others have been around awhile. In your option is ImSim here to stay. Thanks john.
@@GiosSimCorner I am currently in the same position. R9 or Alpha mini...OR shoveling out the extra coin for the regular Alpha (because somehow I am scared that the R9 might not have enough power to be fun in the long run and I will have to upgrade again within a year).
I like your videos very much Sir, whit your suggestion I changed my base from fanatec dd2 to simucube 2 pro. And your Imsim Talento video is great. I couldn t decide ıf I should buy Heusinkveld ultimate+ or Imsim Talento. Please make me a sugestion which should I buy? My previous pedal set was fanatec V3.
I believe you can’t go wrong with both choices but I haven’t tested the ultimate at may home ever and can’t really talk much about those and compare them directly! That being said, I’m in love with those here and put my head for them as I’m sure we can fully achieve any feel and adjust them tho any rig and any like ! Also those are really built as a tank and will last forever! You must probably see which you want more from esthetic point of view and if prices matter with those you will safe bit even going for the full kit !
Honestly, for my feet’s feels perfect but I have small size! Of course there is room to spread them I just choose to set them close just to be able to put the brake straight of my left feet !
@@chepilevski these look nice but about $3-400 USA dollars more then the VRS. Simtrecs I was looking at also. Not many recent reviews for pedals. Thanks
I haven’t tested the HE ultimate extensively and personally can’t compare them man ! I know the Talento are really great pedals and I drive them for a year and loved them 🤛
@@chepilevski You and me both! Putting together a Sensation Pro almost caused a divorce.😂 "Tolerances?" It would be expensive, but electric seats, pedals adjustment and wheel like a real car would be incredible.
Hope one day HE will send the Ultimate for competition as I need to know who is finally the best 🙈 All great here by the way brother 🍻 Hope you have great summer 😃
one thing im not a fan of is the packaging, i can see you already ripped one box as some peeps prefer to keep the boxes and some use them as display stands for other gear. boxing high end gear also require high boxes with form in them not cut out card board
Please keep doing what you do man, youre truly one of the best on this platform truly inspiring stuff much love!
Thank you for the support brother 🍻
Big hug 🤛
Thank you for bringing my attention to this product. I love well-engineered equipment and this was really smartly designed. I don't have the budget for pedals at this price range, but they will be in my mind if I ever fall into enough money to afford them.
Hope you will get some fresh cash to have fun with brother 🍻
Portugal still pumping out super high quality products go Portugal
I am impressed from those guys 💪
I don't care how good they are. I'm not moving from my HE sprints now that I've got them set exactly how I want them and have learnt exactly how to use them.
Great video as always 😊
Fair point brother 😃
Big hug for the support 🍻
HE are better anyways.
@@SIMRIG412 actually they are not better 😁
I had HE for 3 years on my rig and I have to admit those here feels much better and have some advantages as well !
Very informative video as always buddy, not to mention that your video production is up there with the very best that I've seen on RUclips. Keep up the great work my friend.
Wow , thank you for the kind words brother 😊
@@chepilevski Sure thing buddy, stay safe out there.
always incredibly thankful for all your content and all your help . Sending you all my very best wishes . forever in your debt buddy.
Much much love Marti 🤗
You know your happiness pay the debt 😁
@@chepilevski I feel nothing but love for you brother ❤️🙏
Your report is great, thank you, it's nice to be presented with a developer/manufacturer in advance and to hear and see their philosophy on the product. The pedals are so casual and beautiful. I already fell in love with them in the video, but now they are installed LIVE at home, a DREAM. The adjustment possibilities are unbelievable - you can feel every change and everything is so simple and straightforward. It's fun to find your setup on the rig. It is a matter of seconds. The parts are certainly built to last. I don't have a problem with the space, as I only have a size 42 shoe ;-). What I noticed immediately during assembly on the RIG is that the groove stones for the plate months on the RIG are incorrectly chosen. They should be at least M6 nuts and screws, as the small ones supplied are just unnecessary/troublesome fiddling. The ride/response is so different from the V3 pedals (despite oil dampers and CS elastomers) that I would never have imagined (the Talento are also much more compact). Everything feels so smooth. 100% recommendation and worth every euro!
Those remain my favorite pedals ever mate ! The most comfortable in use with those big plates 😃
I visited them in Coimbra. TheY are AMAZING. On The same Day i bought Their Talento pedal. TheY are absolute AMAZING.
Absolutely agree 🍻
Great video as always!!!! Can't wait to see your opinion on the moza as I hold your words in high regard! Keep doing what your doing man the videos are amazing!
I’m very surprised to be honest with this little monster! The last 3 weeks is under hard pressure on my rig and I haven’t found yet any floats!
Few more test in the upcoming week and I will give my full opinion 😊
Thx for the trust buddy!
I try to do my best for the community 🍻
Update. I have purchased this pedal set. The quality of manufacturing and easy of adjustment are top shelf. I’ve been running these pedals for about 10 days now and I’m glad I purchased them. I live in the states and Purchased them thru Ricmotech. I contacted Ricmotech by phone and ImSim thru email they always gave me a quick response on this pedal set. The software doesn’t get alone with Iracing and I do wish the pedal plate was a tad wider. I just use Iracing so the software is a non issue for me. i just calibrated the pedals in Iracing and they work great. Highly recommend to anyone considering upgrading their sim rig.
Thanks for giving your experience with those brother 🤛
Comment section is always much more important then the videos 🍻
@JohnLewis-gi5vp how you feel the throttle pedal , I came from a F V3 with dumper kit on the throttle. I feel the talento throttle to soft, I put them on the stiffer settings.
I really appreciate your feed back
Good morning RBM - as always a very informative, technical & precise review - great job bruv - keep well & safe ...... where have you been over the last several weeks been missing your posts.
Thx Jon 🍻
I was on vacation but I try to post every week 😁
Have a great day brother 🤛
I like the support plates for both throttle and break. More pedals products should have that!
That support plate is also very comfortable with the curve in front which I forgot to mention 😃 very clever move as I many times want to rest my feet in different position and wast ideal with flatter plates
Thanks for another solid review, keep it up man
Thx for the support mate 🍻
I've always thought why dont we use automotive quality potentiometers on our pedals. amazing!
Just sayin hey- hope your doin great- thanx for all that you put in for your channel, use subscribers love it👍👍👍
Big hug for the support Elvis 🍻
Best wishes buddy 🤛
wow .. you can see the engineering intelligence that goes into these.
I love the fact that you went in slightly skeptical and slowly turned around by what you saw
I am pretty fully stuck in the Fantatec ecosystem at the moment with V3 pedals and a DD1 / manual shifter / handbrake
do you know if they play well together ?
great vid as ever
hope all is well
M
Yeh Mark , I usually have skeptical approach to new things and products and really love wen some of those surprise me in positive way 😃
Those guys have done something very unique for us the Simracing enthusiast and I think we are very picky and hard to be happy 🤣
About the V3 , I had those for few years and they are ok but you will be happy upgrading them at some point!
I remember replacing the V3 with Heusinkveld Pro at the time was noticeable and those here are definitely much better then anything else even had 😃
Big hug and thx for the support as always brother 🍻
Great video as usual. Love your content. Understand and setting up brakes can be difficult at times do you have any videos covering brakes/learning to brake
Hey , that is actually great idea for a video Doneil 😃
I had done one before but maybe I have to do one again with bit more details 🍻
@@chepilevski oh sweet Jesus ! That would be great. I just got the whole Moza set up, the R9, GS wheel and SRP pedals. That would be great things have changed alot.
@@Rudeboyneil27 I’m testing that combo and I am impressed with the Moza + GS 😃
@@chepilevski man I'm so pleased with my Purchase. Coming from a Thrustmaster, best choice I made this year in terms of the hobby.
I'm seriously considering purchasing this pedal as an upgrade from HE Sprints, question, how necessary is the hill plate and performance kit?
Would you say these are better then the Simagic P2000 ? I’m torn in between the imsim and the Simagic P2000
The year isn’t over yet 😊
Not yet 😁 you are right 🤛
You have a similarly positive review of the Simagic P2000 pedals. Between the two which would you recommend? Factoring in the imsims are more expensive
They are different and hard to compare! I prefer the the brake feeling from Simagic which is dual pump / spring based and feels bit more like the real thing! That being said, the Imsim are here to last forever and supper easy adjustable!
In Simagic there are more things to fail in the future but they may not fail at all in the next 10 years !
The Imsim plates are bit more comfortable too !
If I have only one choice, the safe will be the Talento !
But again, it is so hard to suggest one over another as they are both great and so different 🙈
To choose with the P2000, which one do you choose ? Knowing that it is not the same braking system...
I love the P2000 but I prefer the ImSim with the elastomers! For some reason I have more confidence with the ImSim but that’s just me !
@@chepilevski As you say, it's your feeling, but I find your opinions always so clear and precise. And if you had to choose between the Simagic ultimate and the simucube 2 pro, which would you choose? Because I'm not sure which one to choose... I have seen your comparison video but I don't know which one to choose...
@@meneo13 the Simucube will be the safest choice right now ! I will be able to fully support the Simagic ultimate a year from now depending on my experience but the SC2 is a base which is tested beyond the limits and I haven’t had any problems till now !
@@chepilevski Thank you very much for your clarifications, and as far as software is concerned, not too much problem for simagic for the moment?
@@meneo13 I never had single problem with there software and have gone trough many updates but have seen some complaints from others! That must be windows problems probably so , it is hard to have clear answer on that ! But again, me personally never had single issue!
So,very good as always but my question is…which takes you close to reality hydraulic or loadsell not considering the price or the maintenance that needed?And how much difference they have on the feeling between them?
There is no black and white answer to this. Hydraulics add some fluid friction, but hardly noticeable. And race car pedals are set up to driver preference; pedal boxes can be swapped out on most classes so you can't really say one set feels like a race car and another one doesn't.
@@Draecko So how can we the buyers know what is best to “simulate” a real car? Because at the end of a day that’s why we do it,buying high end products to simulate a real car.
@@roadrunner_77 check e.g the videos on Lando Norris brake pedal travel in his Mclaren F1 car. Most likely a much harder brake than in any other car but the travel is quite long. Everything is individual on what you like and prefer. What you can see in those videos do not correspond to having e.g, the stiffest delrin bushing in your SIM where the pedal barely moves as is often is stated to give the most consistent braking. I believe there is also video footage of other drivers where the brake travel is not has much as an example, but difficult to know how hard they actually are pressing the pedal
I do track my MX5, with track pads and fluid with brembos, sure it is not the best brakes setup on the market but still there is a bit of travel and if I setup my brake pedal in SIM to be the stiffest or crank the loadcell to max on my Sprint-pedals it is nothing like in the real car
Honestly, I never felt anything I ever tested close to real brakes as I think big part of the feeling of the brakes comes from the Gforces and unfortunately we don’t have that !
That’s just my personal opinion and honestly I mostly looks how I perform on track and how comfortable I feel not just from the use but from driving point of view !
I’m looking for a brake pedal that has feeling while not at 100%. Trail braking I want to feel the pressure there still. The reviews on the VRS say with the spring and the elastomers you get more of that feeling
cool!
Would you pick these or the simtag hydraulics if price didn't matter?
It depends honestly!
The hydraulic have very unique and different feel which I love but there is always chance of failure!
Those here can be set as well to have little more travel and be softer!
That is really hard call as it will be personal preference in feeling!
Those are two very different pedals to be compared to each other and whatever I think may be completely different for you buddy!
Both sets are really the greatest for there class and you must decide if you want to go Hydraulic or Elastomers load cell based pedals!
How do you compare this with the simagic p2000?
I love the P2000 and is hard to compare those two as they are very different ! The Simagic are absolutely awesome for the money and I love the feeling from the springs and the dual pump and the throttle is probably the best I ever drove with and those here are super adjustable and will last forever probably!
As a mechnical engineer I love this(even though I am not working with mechanical engineering lol). Seems like a very nicely designed piece of kit.
Have you tried the Asetek Invicta? The Aseteks don't seem to have the same level of adjustability though
And thank you for the informative videos
I haven’t tested the Asatek but those are definitely one of the most and fastest adjustable pedals I ever tested on my rig !
Thx for the support buddy 🤛
ImSim Talento or SimTrecs Pro Pedal GT? looking upgrade from my Sprints...??? 😊
Hey man , I haven’t tested the SimTrecs but they definitely looks great !
I definitely love those more the anything else I had tested but can’t give clear answers to your question 🙈
@@chepilevski Dang was hoping you had tried them both. Guess I can’t really go wrong with either!
Máster !!! I need a feedback.
I was with Fanatec V3 and go for the Talento.
I fell the throttle feel , from me feels soft , I put All the stiff on the talento. It’s That normal ?
Please let me know need your feed back since you test a lot of pedals. May be the V3 from F, feels unreal.
Hey bro , the talento throttle is for sure my favorite from all I ever tested!
If feels too soft on hardest settings just drive for week and your muscles will get used to the new forces! But again, check if you have dial the hardest settings!
I obey you master I put them on the stiff position , and still feel soft , for me.
Well it’s my second day of test may be I need my muscle memory reset. I let you know in a couple of weeks. I was Just to buy the CC SP01 but I will wait a couple of weeks.
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Great review, thank you. How do you find them compared to the Nuo you tested before? Are they better in terms of driving feel?
Yeh, they are definitely better buddy 🤛
@@chepilevski thx, bought them now :)
@@lordclumsy let me know your thoughts wen you get them and start using them brother!
I’m curious to know what you will think about them 🤛
@@chepilevski Hi again :) Tested the pedals, but have to say, that I sent them back. They are good, but I didn't like the light throttle and the clutch with it's weak bite point. Otherwise they are good pedals, but compared to my Ultimates+ not as good for me. But you never know, maybe others will find that they are much better, it's very subjective.
Great review, I just bought these and having a hard time deciding what elastomers and how much preload to go with, what was your preferred setup? Thanks!
First thing was to get read from the spring buddy as I don’t like those two stages feeling and I believe doesn’t make any favor of the muscle memory! I would suggest first to take that spring off and then go trough the different elastomers to find what works best for your driving stile ! Give at least week to each change! I end up with the stock one (big white elastomer) as I have pain in my left leg in long sessions!
@@chepilevski Hey! I've been using the pedals for a few weeks now and have had this odd issue of the throttle getting stuck at 100% every now and then. It completely ruins my race and leaves me unmotivated. I love the pedals and have contacted imsim for solutions and switched to the USB cable with ferrite cores from my V3 but the issue still occurs.
Did you have any issue like this with pedals before and do you have any ideas for a solution? Thanks!
@@EmitSlab hey buddy, I never had single issue with mine ! You must ask them to fix your set !ask for replacement!
@@chepilevski Just wanted to say that I made a grounding wire connected to the throttle pedal and haven't had an issue since! Did you do anything without the brake spring to stop it from bouncing back at all? Sometimes I feel the brake rattle a bit since without the spring, I can't 'lock" the brake piston in.
Thanks and loving the videos!
It's brilliant to see you reviewing the R9.
Any chance you could review the R21 to see how it stacks up against the SC2 Pro?
Honestly I’m really, really pleasantly surprised with this little sucker man ! I still try to wrap around my head how they achieve that !
Absolutely awesome FFB , really fast and till now after few weeks of torture is going absolutely perfect!
I will push it for another week and set the review and hope to have the choice to test the rest of the line 💪
@@chepilevski Awesome to hear!
Wow they are a work of art. I would want to use them as a shelf piece that's how nice they look. What is the price of these pedals
They are indeed buddy 😃
750€ for the two pedals + 270€ for the clutch + 120€ the pedal plate and heal rest + I think 170€ for the advanced kit !
I found myself using mostly the two pedals honestly with the cars I drove but is nice we have choices to upgrade the rest 💪
@@chepilevski they are definatlely worth the price. Im guessing they are only pc compatible. Does the company make wheel bases and wheels or is it just the pedals?
@@greymonleggomon1185 they have very slick motion simulator and they told me they have future projects but no further info!
I’m honestly very excited to see what else will they bring on the table 😃
Those are PC only I believe buddy 🤛
@@chepilevski thanks for the info. Good luck in your upcoming e series races. Will you livestream any of them on RUclips id be interested in watching you. Maybe watching you will help me become a faster driver.
@@greymonleggomon1185 I’m not sure if I will life stream but will definitely record the races and share !
I also want to make some tutorials about driving improvements 🤛
this are much better than the simagic p200?
I won’t say they are much better buddy!
The P2000 and those here cannot be compared honestly as they are completely different !
I love both and the P2000 as hydraulic with dumper super smooth throttle and aluminum design are really good for the price and those here as top of the elastomers \spring based with so many adjustability options and top quality build are the best I’ve tested till now from that group!
If I had single choice I would go for the Talento not because they are better in feeling but because they will last forever!
That being said, I love the P2000 a lot !
@@chepilevski thank you very much for your time sir!!!
Thanks for the video bringing up the pedals on my radar! You have any comparison to VRS or Venym Pedals? Hope I can test them all at the Expo in December!
I don’t have experience with those pedals you asked but I’m sure you will be able to test probably all of those at the expo buddy !
From Portugal...!
I saw so many Videos from you , i have a vrs DD Base with 20 nm and old TLCM Loadcell Pedals ans want top Upgrade them . But i dont have any Idea wich . I want a Brake Pedal with more travel and i think a 100kg Loadcell ist enough. Do you have a recommandation for me ?
The loadcell capacity doesn’t matter that much as everything is about geometry of the pedals and how they use the pressure on the cell itself!
That being said , many pedals on the market can achieve what you need starting from HE sport which are the most known!
Depending on the money you want to spend you can look for the Imsim Talento which I currently use and they can be set to any feel you will ever want to Simagic which are the other set I use often and have that hydraulic feel ! Definitely avoid the Asatek as those are great but with short movement!
The VRS are also brutal!
@@chepilevski yeah thank you , the vrs are in the Mix ,but i saw the imsim . I dont know wich one to Go now . I'm afraid of the sqeeking from the VRS but they are cheaper in Germany. I personally would Go Up to 1200€
@@KabelSalat_ I haven’t ever tested the VRS but I’m impressed off there build!
About the Imsim, those are pedals which I can fully suggest, they really are tank built and if you take the brake kit you will achieve anything you want with them ! That’s being said , I ended using just the normal elastomer from the stick settings as that have little more travel which I personally prefer and is up to 77kg pressure on the pedal plate 😃
With anything above that I hurt my knee and honestly as much as I go hardest setting that much less travel I get which doesn’t work well for my driving stile !
@@KabelSalat_ I’m in Germany by the way 😁
Best of luck for the hard decision you have to take buddy 🤛
Another really great review ! I own the VRS pedal right now, which I kind of like. They are great to achieve easily the threshold braking point, however they lack a little bit on the brake feeling side. Does anybody have compare the VRS to the Talento by any chance ? Thanks a lot
Hope your well buddy.
So the question is how does the brake compare too the hydraulic simagic we both have? Also so you recommend getting the foot support for the simagic pedals as they do make one for the throttle just not the brake as imsim do.
The Simagic are different feelings as you know to any elastomer based brake !
I love the Simagic a lot but and I really can’t compare those two to each other!
For driving having bit more option on the brake from the Imsim Talento and the very quick adjustability plus those will last forever which is big advantage but if you like the feeling of the Hydraulic system and not afraid of liquid failure Simagic is the best bay for the money!
Great job on the video. I wonder what is different about those elastomers? All elastomers I've tried still have that bounce feeling. Switching to springs with the simagic fixed that. I can visually see it is better on a graph. Maybe you could post a graph of your brake traces?
Elastomers have indeed that bouncy feeling and the Simagic springs with the dual pump is for sure completely different experience!
The problem with most of the elastomers from other pedals is they don’t use stopes and goes beyond work limits but that bouncy feeling you are talking about is just elastomers property ! With the short strong elastomers is not that pronounced because of the travel!
I'm invested into the Simagic ecosystem now. What's your opinion on the Talento vs Simagic P2000?
I love the P2000 and I have to say they are one of the best I ever had !
They feel different to those as they use completely different approach and have lots of options for different feelings as well !
The main thing you have to consider is they can fail with the years because of the liquid they use and the traditional loadcell / springs based pedals are virtually immortal!
Otherwise, I really really love my P2000!
@@chepilevski thanks for your response it's much appreciated! Keep up the great content!
Hey man, I love the channel! Thank you for everything you do! I was about to purchase the SIM magic P 2000 until I saw this video and I wanted to ask you how did they compare?
It is very hard to compare those two as they are very different from every point of view man !
I love the Simagic a lot and they have very unique feel I. Every pedal!
Those here are monsters which will last forever and have crazy adjustability!
I driven right now on those here and they are more comfortable but the Simagic brake pedal and throttle are better in feel for me !
Honestly for me is almost impossible to suggest one over the other 🙈
It is something that must be experience first hand !
More comfortable versus feel better is always very different and very difficult compromise to make! Lol! For someone newer, and going up from a G29 pedal set, which would you recommend?
@@alluracreativeagency if you take the talento , those will be the last pedals you will ever get in your sim carrier as those will really last for ever and stay like new for very long time !
Much more engineering though behind for sure and definitely the top elastomer based I ever tested !
The Simagic feels awesome with the dual pump system!
Because you insist to give you advice which way you have to go , if you ware my brother for example I would say definitely go for the Talento as they will work for 100 years and they are super comfortable!
Simagic are awesome but I will always have the concern about all those moving part which can go wrong at some point! Pump , dumpers , liquid etc !
At the end of the day , both will make you happy but the Talento will have much longer life time !
Thank you so much! I really do appreciate that! Your review is the reason that I got the alpha and not the U or Mini, and so I wanted to know if you thought joining their family with the pedal set would make sense but I am concerned about the huge learning curve and a lot of extra moving parts and potential points of failure! Lol! Thanks again brother!
Nice review, im between the CC SP021 and this set, wich one would your recomend?
May personal favorite are the Talento overall from price point of view and use !
The CC have better brake pedal feel for sure and look more beautiful for sure but those here are very solid with amazing throttle feel and very comfortable with those big plates for less money 😃
@@chepilevski👌👌👌 just to keep forward.
The talento base it’s really necessary? I’m asking because I’m from Chile , and include will be rai$$e the total price and taxes.
If I can made a custom one please 🙏 let me know
I go to court soon so hoping i be rady to buy everything to get going and i will be wanting to talk to you when time comes for your OPINION!!!!!!!!!!!!! SIR!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Again!!!!
Will be happy to help Rob 🍻
@@chepilevski Thank you!!!
I’m between theses and one other brand. I just got one question? These are new two the market and the others have been around awhile. In your option is ImSim here to stay. Thanks john.
From what I know , they have plans to involve heavily into sim and the pedals are new but Imsim is here for years with there Motion Rig buddy!
@@chepilevski thanks Im from the US just didn’t know that much them. Thanks for the reply.
Great and informative video. Looking to get more high end pedals. Is there any change u will test the Heusinkveld Ultimate + in the near future?
Thx buddy!
I would really want to test the Ultimate and see how they compare to those ! Hope that will happen soon
I see that you are using a MozaR9 wheel base in this video. Will we be seeing a review video coming out ?
Yes buddy, it is coming in the next two weeks !
I still to test some more Sims and cars but for now I’m truly impressed from this little kit!
@@chepilevski I'm looking for my first direct drive wheelbase. I'm torn between the R9 and the Alpha mini.
@@GiosSimCorner very close call indeed
I will try to explain the difference and hope will helps you decide which one is better for you buddy!
@@GiosSimCorner I am currently in the same position. R9 or Alpha mini...OR shoveling out the extra coin for the regular Alpha (because somehow I am scared that the R9 might not have enough power to be fun in the long run and I will have to upgrade again within a year).
@@vihta545 I priced out the alpha 15nm with the Heusenveld sprints it came out to around $1700
I like your videos very much Sir, whit your suggestion I changed my base from fanatec dd2 to simucube 2 pro. And your Imsim Talento video is great. I couldn t decide ıf I should buy Heusinkveld ultimate+ or Imsim Talento. Please make me a sugestion which should I buy? My previous pedal set was fanatec V3.
I believe you can’t go wrong with both choices but I haven’t tested the ultimate at may home ever and can’t really talk much about those and compare them directly!
That being said, I’m in love with those here and put my head for them as I’m sure we can fully achieve any feel and adjust them tho any rig and any like !
Also those are really built as a tank and will last forever!
You must probably see which you want more from esthetic point of view and if prices matter with those you will safe bit even going for the full kit !
Pedals seem too close together and the base plate doesn’t look like there’s more room?
Honestly, for my feet’s feels perfect but I have small size!
Of course there is room to spread them I just choose to set them close just to be able to put the brake straight of my left feet !
@@chepilevski these look nice but about $3-400 USA dollars more then the VRS. Simtrecs I was looking at also. Not many recent reviews for pedals. Thanks
Portugal 🇵🇹
Hi ! Nice video, I need new pedals, and I look for HE ultimate + or imsim talento. Wich was better for you ?
Cheers buddy 😊
I haven’t tested the HE ultimate extensively and personally can’t compare them man !
I know the Talento are really great pedals and I drive them for a year and loved them 🤛
@@chepilevskithank’s a lot ! I don’t know what to choose but I think they are both really good so……yeah. Let’s see 😅
Starting to lean that way.
Has anyone compared these to the ultimates?
you must ask Gamer Muscle as he has both and must have better opinion then me buddy !
@@chepilevski thanks!!
Pedals that can be adjusted without tools? I'm in.
They need to design a rig also
Hah, that is f….n great idea buddy 😃
Hope they read that comment as that can be gold 💪🍻❤️
@@chepilevski You and me both! Putting together a Sensation Pro almost caused a divorce.😂
"Tolerances?"
It would be expensive, but electric seats, pedals adjustment and wheel like a real car would be incredible.
Id like to have them send me a set to compare to my Heusinkveld. Or send my pedals to you lmao. Hope your good big guy!
Hope one day HE will send the Ultimate for competition as I need to know who is finally the best 🙈
All great here by the way brother 🍻
Hope you have great summer 😃
one thing im not a fan of is the packaging, i can see you already ripped one box as some peeps prefer to keep the boxes and some use them as display stands for other gear. boxing high end gear also require high boxes with form in them not cut out card board
Amazing video bro... 13£_/
Where's my wallet!
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I like much...........but PLAIN LOOKING and i want to hang my up side down.
Upside down is great for precise control 💪