just quick note for myself xd ssss- 4:45 jumping into water - 6:40, 8:20 holding you! - 9:01 hold more/less amount of air out - 10:27 more activity from abdomen- 11:01
I am so grateful that I found this video last week. I've been struggling to find compression control for so long, but the minute you said jumping under water it clicked! In one week it has literally changed my singing and practice. I can't even begin to explain how big a difference it has made. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Best video I've seen so far, he's not trying to "hide" part of the information to sell something, he's actually explaining a technique as it is. Thank you.
this channel needs 300k or 3 million subs , masses are asses and will never appreciate such a quality rock vocal coach like this , the society is nothing without passionate rock music to spark the fire out !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much Varun! really appreciate your positive feedback - it is my Dharma to serve! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
I've been looking so long for a good explanation of compression, but after hearing your analogy with the baloon it finally clicked for me... everything suddenly makes much more sense.
As a modern deathcore vocalist i can safely do false chord screams, but this video really helped me get a small amount of distortion to my singing. thank you 🙏
Wow, you explained it so well! Thanks for the video! I have practiced this a lot before but watching your video I realized I need to actually have less air in my lungs to really get the sound I wanted
This is not technology correct. Breathing out is what takes effort. Breathing in takes no effort and is provided by atmospheric pressure. I learned this in medical classes.
Just found this guy, he is awesome! I was looking for some new vox warmups. I wish I could find a golf instructor as chill and easy to understand as he is.
Wow - thank you! My golf game is pretty crappy, but I could put some pretty chill lessons up here - LOL! Just kiddding... thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!!!
I laughed and I also Understood. I am so new to this vocal frying and distorting etc. I wanna at least learn to sing more raspy like a rock singer..And you have really explained this sooooo well. Love it. Thank you.
thank you! thank you! thank you! it worked instantly. i am so happy hitting such high notes that easy right now. i think its save to say: you made my year!
your voice is so impressive. it's very inspirational!! i'm having trouble keeping the air in, and not let it come out in a huuh breath, any further advice?:)
Hi Jolesy, so glad to hear they help you - I really appreciate you being here and subscribing for more tips coming soon (as soon as my voice rehabilitates from Covid)
Few questions from a fellow voice teacher !! 1. What should this feel like ?? Pain wise lol. I think I just have the gain the muscles , but my voice does get tired pretty quickly from doing this . 2. Does this apply to holding a clean note and then adding compression later on in the note ?? Because if I'm not starting a note with a harsh glottal , how do I get the compression to start up in the middle of the phrase/note ?? 3. I usually "grunt" (like a Christina Aguilera type growl) . Is this similar in any way , or not even anywhere near it ?? 4. I feel like this is sort of like valsalva and I know that not to be great for the voice , causing too much subglottic pressure . What is the difference between this technique and valsalva ?? Sorry to bombard you with so many questions , I'm genuinely trying to learn for myself and so I can teach my students LOL. Great explanations , thank you !!!!
Hi Emi, I'll do my best to answer you 1. Pain is always bad in my opinion.. As far as tiring, if you've never done any pushups you would get tired very quickly too, yes? I think maybe it's just persistent work to develop the muscles and muscle memory. 2. Compression is the product of expulsion pressure of air against the holding back of air... think of a balloon in your hands if you hold the balloon with the 'opening' at the top and push up on the bottom the air will come out (unless you hold the 'nozzle' closed). Hope that makes sense! 3. As for the Christina growl, without seeing/hearing how you accomplish that I wouldn't know. I'm sure you can appreciate that can be done in different ways and also I'm sure you can appreciate that it's hard (almost impossible) to understand and answer some things with mere words... 4. I've never heard of 'valsalva' so I'm not sure (I am not trained in the 'academics' - I just share what has worked for me to get my clients' results). I do understand 'too much' subglottic pressure can be 'bad', but how much is 'too much'? I always do my best to release the pressure 'just enough' for a balance. If you want to book a free 15min zoom consultation (via my website) I can address point 3 better, otherwise I hope I've helped you! All the best, Jim
Actually you can control the diaphragm. You can hold the diaphragm down and let the lungs slowly deflate. It is a bit uncomfortable, but you can do it.
Hey man, great lesson. I'll be singing better than my front man if I stay with you. BTW, I'm going to borrow your hand gestures to explain how the diaphragm moves to teach patients with breathing difficulty how to breath.
Hi Rodger, Glad you enjoyed it! Send your front man this way so he can catch up to you - haha! BTW go ahead and borrow the hand gestures... I have some more breathing tips coming soon! Many of the classical masters described breathing down into their lower back as if their buttocks are balloons and they are trying to fill them up.... hope that helps!
Thank you! So when I do compression I can't go past E4-F4# and it sounds like old man constipated. lol. I'm only 45.:) In songs I usually sing lighter but when a line comes up to hit F4#/G4, I go into this compressed sound but it sounds ridiculously squeezed and unnatural, plus hard to articulate clearly that high. Is it supposed to get easier the more I practice and also able to go higher?
Hi Vlad, it's almost impossible to tell what you are actually doing and help without hearing you... I have a super cheap deal on wiseo ($20) where you can shoot me a video or audio file that I can hear what you are doing and feedback... It may be that you are just compressing too much, but again, almost impossible to give feedback without hearing you... Wiseo link is here if you want to try that: www.wisio.com/RockYourBestVocals Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Thank you Jim, man when you talked while holding your breath and pushed with your abdomen, that also can be considered as an exercise as well right? I feel like this can help us to get used to using compression 😊
Yes, of course and GREAT POINT! Anything you do that helps you to practice this type of 'muscle memory' can be considered an 'exercise'... often I just walk around holding my breath and letting the SMALLEST amount of 'squeaky noise' out my nasal cavity.... SUPER ANNOYING for people around me, but HEY - you GOTTA keep VOCALLY FIT, right? LOL!!! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Hey Tim, thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it... I always expect more views, so I agree! 🤣🤪😂 Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - I appreciate you! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
hmm, I studied for years with a great opera singer who also sings rock. He always said fill the room with air. We need a lot of air. Unfortunately, I always get tired when I sing higher songs. Even on lower songs. Maybe that's my problem. I'll try it. Thank you!
I'd be interested in the opera singer that said that because I've recently gotten into learning more about opera singers and from what I've heard so far - they all talk about using as little air as possible to create a sound... In fact, there is a classical technique called "inalare" which you have the feeling of 'inhaling' the note (although not inhaling, you are releasing only a slight amount of air).... something to think about!
@@RockYourBestVocals Now I think he's got it wrong. I think that's a reason for my problems. But I can't say for sure until I've learned to sing with compression/less air. Sure, if you want information on the method, I can send you some. A lot of things are really good in this method and have opened my eyes. Should I send the things to your info mail address?
The part that I cannot figure out is the transition from the croaky super compressed quiet sounds into using that for loud and powerful vocal parts. Also, when I try this I quickly feel like I need to cough- what am I doing incorrectly? I can make the sound at the end just fine but I have no idea how to transition from that to what it’s actually supposed to sound like when singing.
Hi! if you feel the need to cough, it's likely because you are pushing too much air through your vocal cords and irritating them. (that will cause damage over long periods of time, so if you feel that, stop!) Try holding back your air, and maybe consider 1:1 sessions with me to improve where I can show you things to do to achieve this.
@@RockYourBestVocals Thank you so much for the fast reply! After some trial and error I found if I focus more on the core I naturally constrict the air more and stop that problem. Thank you so much for the help! :) I'm still uncertain on transitioning from the squeaky sounds to powerful singing like you do at 11:17. I can make all the previous sounds in the video but that is where I am getting stuck!
Great explanation of compression! My understanding about open throat technique is that it’s all bout how you form and modify vowels with your tongue and soft palate though. You would still use proper support and compression with that technique I believe🤘☺️
Indeed, support is key in any instance - it's the foundation which is why everyone likes to say 'just sing from your diaphragm' (like it's just that easy - haha!)
I explain this in my new course (being announced soon!) keep an eye out as it is short and sweet to the point (approx 1hr) focused on results that anyone can get (and after it you’ll have a good grasp of everything that will answer that question and more)
Hey Jim, thanks for all the explanation and guidance. It seems whenever I am trying to apply compression, it seems instead of my gut, it is my throat that is controlling the airflow and as a result my throat starts hurting within a few minutes.I am getting your concept but somehow not able to apply it practically, do you have any golden advice for me ?
Hi, I would suggest taking my "Singing Support Secrets" course that goes deeper on how to use compression (it's FREE for a limited time) you can access here: courses.rockyourbestvocals.com/support
Can I ask a question? What is the relationship between vocal compression and belting? I'm having a hard time visualizing how a singer like, say, Dorothy or Lzzy Hale sounds like they use some of both?
If you don't 'compress' when you are belting, you will push too much air and possibly damage your cords... compression is vital to healthy cords when belting. This is explained in detail in my Singing Supports Secrets course (free for a limited time) signup here: courses.rockyourbestvocals.com/support
Hi Jim! Would you say this is like another take at curbing? I'm teaching singing since a month and I've got a young fellar who's really into hard rock, so now I'm also really curious about learning these things. I know CVT pretty well and the compression sound, sounds like the hold in curbing, but then the sound is much different! But is it the same feeling? Cause then I know from where to explore!
Hey I’m not sure what that term means, because it sounds very specific to CVT which I never got into. I just like to explain things as simply as possible. Einstein said ‘if you can’t explain something simply, you don’t understand it yourself’ 🤷🏼♂️
Whenever i am trying to sing like that, i get nausea and dizzy just after a minute or so of singing... My neck veins pop out too and it kinda hurts. Probablyy my breath control sucks or i am doing something else wrong. Can anyone help me about what can get rid of all those problems??
@@RockYourBestVocals i am not sure what you mean, but i never had any vocal teacher and rarely i do vocal exercises.. im no singer, just a guitarist in a band which really needs that rock distorted voice. Im not sure what my next steps are towards singing and thats why i came to you.. have you got anything to suggest to me??
You're likely pushing too much air, and my new FREE course will help you with that - check it out below and share with as many people as you can to spread the love: courses.rockyourbestvocals.com/support
Hey I guess you’re referring to CVT method? I don’t know what edge is, but compression is simply using your abdominal and related expulsion muscles to create upward pressure while restricting airflow similar to yelling underwater while trying to make zero bubbles… make sense?
We only did the one support slot with her in Belfast SSE arena 2019... thought she was phenomenal and SUCH an incredibly nice and inspiring person - all the years she's done this, and not jaded in the slightest! Love her!
It's almost impossible to tell if you're doing something wrong, so I'd suggest booking a 15min consultation for FREE: calendly.com/rockyourbestvocals/gen-private-session-application-15-min-consul-clone?month=2023-11
Hello, thank you so much for this Video. I now understand exactly the technique which is used to do a fry sound. But my Problem is I sound like a compressed mini Duck. 😅 It is hard for me to find the cool Rocksound like you have in your voice. It is sad for me because I train this a long time.
compressed mini duck? hmmmm don't be so hard on yourself - you probably don't sound the way you think you do (we often are too critical of our voice - especially if it is unique, but unique is a GREAT thing! You can stand out and be heard a lot better than all the others!)
I hear all the bass potential you have in your speaking voice and I think that is key to sounding good too, I can barely have any low end anywhere in my voice, is there a way to add that or am i just stuck sounding like a kid at even though I'm 30? Like even my low notes around A2 are mostly made of fry.
Hi, and thank you for the comment/question! The grass is always greener! My voice was even higher before getting Covid in Dec 2019 (for some reason it's going deeper - perhaps age related also) If you listen to Sebastian Bach he has an extraordinarily high speaking voice. I believe the way to get good at lower register is to keep working on your support to generate enough 'pressure' for your cords to vibrate well enough when loose and "low"
Awesome that you're trying and getting it! As for your neck, as long as 'funny' doesn't hurt then I'm sure it's fine... it may feel different than you are used to and I'm sure that's fine as long as it doesn't HURT (pain is the enemy!)
Hi Justin, holding back the air is just by not trying to push air out - it's challenging to explain in text, but as an exercise, you could try singing in front of a match or lighter and trying not to blow it out (caution: try that at your own risk!) Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
An easy way to do it is to pretend you're pooping. You will notice a closing sensation in your throat. Those are your false folds closing. Now do the same movement but don't close fully and produce a sound while doing so. It should be compressed now. If you add more volume, your false fold distortion will kick in.
I get that totally, because I've been there too... try thinking of starting it off with a loud forceful laugh and focus on the lower abs doing the work... and once you start off the note, just keep pushing from the lower abdominal and see if that works for you. There are several other things that I could suggest because different things work for different people.... but too much to list here
Well, I can hold the same note for the same length at the end of the video, clean and loud, so I guess I am compressing at some basic level. But when it comes to adding grit, "pushing more from the abdomen" etc, that doesn't seem to come together.
very great video! i got the compression part but sadly I couldn't get any raspy voice after that I kinda sound like Dumbledore or any old man while compressing LMAO
You can always come back to it and try later... sometimes after a little bit of messing around, you will find it... that's how I did it - just by messing around (although without someone specifically showing me, took me ages to figure out!)
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Now I hear this Foo Fighters line like: I got a lot of compression to make
Haha - THANKS! Now, me too!!! LOL!!! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
i literally thought the same thing lmfao
LOL
6:49 “hits blunt” this how we ganna sing this shit boys.
😂😂😂
just quick note for myself xd
ssss- 4:45
jumping into water - 6:40, 8:20
holding you! - 9:01
hold more/less amount of air out - 10:27
more activity from abdomen- 11:01
I came for side-chain and parallel processing tips but I stayed for the laid back 'tude. Good info in this video.
I am so grateful that I found this video last week. I've been struggling to find compression control for so long, but the minute you said jumping under water it clicked! In one week it has literally changed my singing and practice. I can't even begin to explain how big a difference it has made. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
You're so welcome! I'm so glad to hear it worked for you! Thank you very much for taking the time to watch and comment!!!
Best video I've seen so far, he's not trying to "hide" part of the information to sell something, he's actually explaining a technique as it is. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Appreciate your kind comments 😊💕
this channel needs 300k or 3 million subs , masses are asses and will never appreciate such a quality rock vocal coach like this , the society is nothing without passionate rock music to spark the fire out !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much Varun! really appreciate your positive feedback - it is my Dharma to serve! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
This video helped me to finally understand how to practice compression
One of the best explanations of compression that I have found. The balloon and jumping into the pool examples made a lot of sense. Thanks!
Jim, awesome explanation and exercises. I have struggled with this concept, but now you have shown me the way. Thanks
I've been looking so long for a good explanation of compression, but after hearing your analogy with the baloon it finally clicked for me... everything suddenly makes much more sense.
Thanks Patrick! Glad it helped!
As a modern deathcore vocalist i can safely do false chord screams, but this video really helped me get a small amount of distortion to my singing. thank you 🙏
Wow awesome! So glad to help! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Can I ask - What part helped you the most?
You are a trip Jim Chandler!😂. I really enjoyed your video, and did watch till the end! ROCK ON BROTHER!
Woa, didn't know it worked like that. Nice tip, well explained. Thanks.
Man you have no idea how much this has helped me; it's simple, fun and effective. Thanks a lot for sharing this!
Glad it helped! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
Wow, you explained it so well! Thanks for the video! I have practiced this a lot before but watching your video I realized I need to actually have less air in my lungs to really get the sound I wanted
This is not technology correct. Breathing out is what takes effort. Breathing in takes no effort and is provided by atmospheric pressure. I learned this in medical classes.
Glad it was helpful!
Just found this guy, he is awesome! I was looking for some new vox warmups. I wish I could find a golf instructor as chill and easy to understand as he is.
Wow - thank you! My golf game is pretty crappy, but I could put some pretty chill lessons up here - LOL! Just kiddding... thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!!!
The jumping in the water thing was pretty useful, nice video
Thank you! Glad it helped 😊👍🏼
I love this video and I learned so much. I sing R&B but I love rock music and it’s always been apart of the soundtrack of my life 🥰❤
Thank you! Glad it helped! 😊👍🏼
I laughed and I also Understood. I am so new to this vocal frying and distorting etc. I wanna at least learn to sing more raspy like a rock singer..And you have really explained this sooooo well. Love it. Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Appreciate you! I’m glad to hear this video helped you 😊👍🏼
you deserve more views my brother, your video are so helpful. Mad respect!
Glad it helped! I really appreciate you saying that - thank you!
Great channel, great info, great guy!
Awww shucks, thank you!
That zoom killed me 😅. Thanks for explaining the technique to me as a newbee (in his 40s).
Jim you are simply the best
from Ethiopia amazing thank you
That’s the best explanation that I ever had
Thank you brother!!! You gave me hope and a way to achieve towards that Billie Gibbons voice
Thanks again!
Glad I could help!
This is indeed the best explanation. Thank you so much sir
You are most welcome!
thank you! thank you! thank you! it worked instantly. i am so happy hitting such high notes that easy right now. i think its save to say: you made my year!
Awesome! You’ve made my day knowing that it worked for you and you are so happy hitting high notes - I LOVE TO HEAR THAT! Congratulations!!! 😊👍🏼
your voice is so impressive. it's very inspirational!! i'm having trouble keeping the air in, and not let it come out in a huuh breath, any further advice?:)
Dude. This is so cool. I will try this now.
Great! Have fun and let me know how it goes
Thanks so much man. This is seriously the first video that really helped me learn how to do this. Liked and subbed :)
Hey Chazz - so glad to hear that it helped! Many thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
I learned so much from these videos
Hi Jolesy, so glad to hear they help you - I really appreciate you being here and subscribing for more tips coming soon (as soon as my voice rehabilitates from Covid)
You Rock man!
Thank you, much appreciated!
Awesome lesson-awesome teacher. Thanks!
My pleasure! Glad you liked it! 😊👍🏼
Engagement! Thanks for the videos buddy.
My pleasure thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
Makes sense. Thanks.
You're very welcome my friend! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
You can sing for sure
Few questions from a fellow voice teacher !!
1. What should this feel like ?? Pain wise lol. I think I just have the gain the muscles , but my voice does get tired pretty quickly from doing this .
2. Does this apply to holding a clean note and then adding compression later on in the note ?? Because if I'm not starting a note with a harsh glottal , how do I get the compression to start up in the middle of the phrase/note ??
3. I usually "grunt" (like a Christina Aguilera type growl) . Is this similar in any way , or not even anywhere near it ??
4. I feel like this is sort of like valsalva and I know that not to be great for the voice , causing too much subglottic pressure . What is the difference between this technique and valsalva ??
Sorry to bombard you with so many questions , I'm genuinely trying to learn for myself and so I can teach my students LOL. Great explanations , thank you !!!!
Hi Emi, I'll do my best to answer you
1. Pain is always bad in my opinion.. As far as tiring, if you've never done any pushups you would get tired very quickly too, yes? I think maybe it's just persistent work to develop the muscles and muscle memory.
2. Compression is the product of expulsion pressure of air against the holding back of air... think of a balloon in your hands if you hold the balloon with the 'opening' at the top and push up on the bottom the air will come out (unless you hold the 'nozzle' closed). Hope that makes sense!
3. As for the Christina growl, without seeing/hearing how you accomplish that I wouldn't know. I'm sure you can appreciate that can be done in different ways and also I'm sure you can appreciate that it's hard (almost impossible) to understand and answer some things with mere words...
4. I've never heard of 'valsalva' so I'm not sure (I am not trained in the 'academics' - I just share what has worked for me to get my clients' results). I do understand 'too much' subglottic pressure can be 'bad', but how much is 'too much'? I always do my best to release the pressure 'just enough' for a balance.
If you want to book a free 15min zoom consultation (via my website) I can address point 3 better, otherwise I hope I've helped you!
All the best, Jim
@@RockYourBestVocals That would be great !!! How do I do that ???
RockYourBestVocals.com and go to private sessions and “apply” button… looking forward to seeing you!
wow, simple n effective!
Is this technique bad for vocal cords? Is it safe? One vocalost told me that its not and it shouldn't be abused. Is this true?
Well explained..
I am sold.
😂 Awesome, glad you enjoyed it!
Cool . i'll try this today
Actually you can control the diaphragm. You can hold the diaphragm down and let the lungs slowly deflate. It is a bit uncomfortable, but you can do it.
Yes it is my favorite topic.
@@brentheigold161 🪂
how do you use compression without hurting your throat or ending up coughing because its not natural
Explained so well.
Thank you! 😊👍🏼
Awesome tip!
Glad it was helpful!
Hey man, great lesson. I'll be singing better than my front man if I stay with you. BTW, I'm going to borrow your hand gestures to explain how the diaphragm moves to teach patients with breathing difficulty how to breath.
Hi Rodger, Glad you enjoyed it! Send your front man this way so he can catch up to you - haha! BTW go ahead and borrow the hand gestures... I have some more breathing tips coming soon! Many of the classical masters described breathing down into their lower back as if their buttocks are balloons and they are trying to fill them up.... hope that helps!
is there an easy karaoke song we can practice that compression on?
This was great, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! thank you!
Thanks a lot for this lesson! Now I got another compression to make though
Glad it helped! - "BEST COMMENT EVER" award goes to you! LOL 😂👍
Thank you! So when I do compression I can't go past E4-F4# and it sounds like old man constipated. lol. I'm only 45.:) In songs I usually sing lighter but when a line comes up to hit F4#/G4, I go into this compressed sound but it sounds ridiculously squeezed and unnatural, plus hard to articulate clearly that high. Is it supposed to get easier the more I practice and also able to go higher?
Hi Vlad, it's almost impossible to tell what you are actually doing and help without hearing you... I have a super cheap deal on wiseo ($20) where you can shoot me a video or audio file that I can hear what you are doing and feedback... It may be that you are just compressing too much, but again, almost impossible to give feedback without hearing you... Wiseo link is here if you want to try that: www.wisio.com/RockYourBestVocals Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Thank you for this! I finally got this to work when I pulled my chest resonance from the mask Back to the back teeth
Glad it helped! thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
Thank you Jim, man when you talked while holding your breath and pushed with your abdomen, that also can be considered as an exercise as well right? I feel like this can help us to get used to using compression 😊
Yes, of course and GREAT POINT! Anything you do that helps you to practice this type of 'muscle memory' can be considered an 'exercise'... often I just walk around holding my breath and letting the SMALLEST amount of 'squeaky noise' out my nasal cavity.... SUPER ANNOYING for people around me, but HEY - you GOTTA keep VOCALLY FIT, right? LOL!!! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Exactly what I needed thanks man
Hey Jeff, so glad to hear it was of value - happy to serve! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Hi Jim, trying this right now and it's hurting my throat a little, I'm obviously not following steps correctly
Nice one, bruv. Good lesson.
Glad you liked it! thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
These are perfect explanations! Expected more views here...
Hey Tim, thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it... I always expect more views, so I agree! 🤣🤪😂 Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - I appreciate you! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
@@RockYourBestVocals you are really good teacher!
hmm, I studied for years with a great opera singer who also sings rock. He always said fill the room with air. We need a lot of air. Unfortunately, I always get tired when I sing higher songs. Even on lower songs. Maybe that's my problem. I'll try it. Thank you!
I'd be interested in the opera singer that said that because I've recently gotten into learning more about opera singers and from what I've heard so far - they all talk about using as little air as possible to create a sound... In fact, there is a classical technique called "inalare" which you have the feeling of 'inhaling' the note (although not inhaling, you are releasing only a slight amount of air).... something to think about!
@@RockYourBestVocals Now I think he's got it wrong. I think that's a reason for my problems. But I can't say for sure until I've learned to sing with compression/less air.
Sure, if you want information on the method, I can send you some. A lot of things are really good in this method and have opened my eyes.
Should I send the things to your info mail address?
Yes, that would be awesome - I'd love to see it; info@rockyourbestvocals.com
The part that I cannot figure out is the transition from the croaky super compressed quiet sounds into using that for loud and powerful vocal parts. Also, when I try this I quickly feel like I need to cough- what am I doing incorrectly?
I can make the sound at the end just fine but I have no idea how to transition from that to what it’s actually supposed to sound like when singing.
Hi! if you feel the need to cough, it's likely because you are pushing too much air through your vocal cords and irritating them. (that will cause damage over long periods of time, so if you feel that, stop!) Try holding back your air, and maybe consider 1:1 sessions with me to improve where I can show you things to do to achieve this.
@@RockYourBestVocals Thank you so much for the fast reply! After some trial and error I found if I focus more on the core I naturally constrict the air more and stop that problem. Thank you so much for the help! :) I'm still uncertain on transitioning from the squeaky sounds to powerful singing like you do at 11:17. I can make all the previous sounds in the video but that is where I am getting stuck!
the word "break " at 8:53 sounded very much like joe walsh
Total Jack Nicholson face in the movie The Shinning!
Wow bro it really worked! Thanks (I'm a lady btw and it sound devine on me)
Glad I could help! 😊👍🏼
Great explanation of compression! My understanding about open throat technique is that it’s all bout how you form and modify vowels with your tongue and soft palate though. You would still use proper support and compression with that technique I believe🤘☺️
Indeed, support is key in any instance - it's the foundation which is why everyone likes to say 'just sing from your diaphragm' (like it's just that easy - haha!)
@@RockYourBestVocals I guess it is after you’ve figured it out, took me a long ass time tho 😆
Im not being able to sing Don't cry guns and roses the high part is very hard .. you got any tips?
Keep practicing it! You WILL get it eventually, just never give up and always BELIEVE that you CAN achieve it!
What muscles do you use to hold the air back? If it comes from squeezing the throat, isn’t that dangerous?
I explain this in my new course (being announced soon!) keep an eye out as it is short and sweet to the point (approx 1hr) focused on results that anyone can get (and after it you’ll have a good grasp of everything that will answer that question and more)
this guy is so damn good
i love your videos
Thank you so much - that means the WORLD to me to hear that! you just made my day!!! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
What does it mean if my throat feels scratchy after trying this out?I think i'm doing something wrong even though it sounds perfect
Scratchy or irritated throat means your true cords are being used, and feeling irritated as a result. This must be avoided to prevent damage.
Hey Jim, thanks for all the explanation and guidance. It seems whenever I am trying to apply compression, it seems instead of my gut, it is my throat that is controlling the airflow and as a result my throat starts hurting within a few minutes.I am getting your concept but somehow not able to apply it practically, do you have any golden advice for me ?
Hi, I would suggest taking my "Singing Support Secrets" course that goes deeper on how to use compression (it's FREE for a limited time) you can access here: courses.rockyourbestvocals.com/support
Can I ask a question? What is the relationship between vocal compression and belting? I'm having a hard time visualizing how a singer like, say, Dorothy or Lzzy Hale sounds like they use some of both?
If you don't 'compress' when you are belting, you will push too much air and possibly damage your cords... compression is vital to healthy cords when belting. This is explained in detail in my Singing Supports Secrets course (free for a limited time) signup here: courses.rockyourbestvocals.com/support
@@RockYourBestVocals thanks so much!!!
Hi Jim! Would you say this is like another take at curbing? I'm teaching singing since a month and I've got a young fellar who's really into hard rock, so now I'm also really curious about learning these things. I know CVT pretty well and the compression sound, sounds like the hold in curbing, but then the sound is much different! But is it the same feeling? Cause then I know from where to explore!
Hey I’m not sure what that term means, because it sounds very specific to CVT which I never got into. I just like to explain things as simply as possible. Einstein said ‘if you can’t explain something simply, you don’t understand it yourself’ 🤷🏼♂️
Whenever i am trying to sing like that, i get nausea and dizzy just after a minute or so of singing... My neck veins pop out too and it kinda hurts. Probablyy my breath control sucks or i am doing something else wrong. Can anyone help me about what can get rid of all those problems??
Most vocal issues come back to support. How much/often do you dedicate to strengthening your support?
@@RockYourBestVocals i am not sure what you mean, but i never had any vocal teacher and rarely i do vocal exercises.. im no singer, just a guitarist in a band which really needs that rock distorted voice. Im not sure what my next steps are towards singing and thats why i came to you.. have you got anything to suggest to me??
Is it okay to feel a little bit of itch/scratch on the throat in the beginning? Or am I doing it wrong
You're likely pushing too much air, and my new FREE course will help you with that - check it out below and share with as many people as you can to spread the love: courses.rockyourbestvocals.com/support
Is compression same as edge vocal technique?
Hey I guess you’re referring to CVT method? I don’t know what edge is, but compression is simply using your abdominal and related expulsion muscles to create upward pressure while restricting airflow similar to yelling underwater while trying to make zero bubbles… make sense?
As you’ve toured with Cher - what do you think of her voice? She’s so underrated imo
We only did the one support slot with her in Belfast SSE arena 2019... thought she was phenomenal and SUCH an incredibly nice and inspiring person - all the years she's done this, and not jaded in the slightest! Love her!
@@RockYourBestVocals I adore Belfast. Wish we went more. She seems so honest and interesting. Can’t wait to hear her 2 new albums.
Hello, if i fell neck tension (my throat is in great condition) do i do something wrong?
It's almost impossible to tell if you're doing something wrong, so I'd suggest booking a 15min consultation for FREE: calendly.com/rockyourbestvocals/gen-private-session-application-15-min-consul-clone?month=2023-11
can you do steven tyler
Is this helpful for phonatory gap?
Yes, the compression/glottal stop method will - see this article: www.christellaantoni.co.uk/mind-gap-breathy-singer/
Cool... Thanksssss
Welcome 😊 Glad you liked it and thanks for watching and leaving a comment - much appreciated!
Helpful and also entertained your clip. 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 😊🙏🏽
Hello, thank you so much for this Video. I now understand exactly the technique which is used to do a fry sound. But my Problem is I sound like a compressed mini Duck. 😅 It is hard for me to find the cool Rocksound like you have in your voice. It is sad for me because I train this a long time.
compressed mini duck? hmmmm don't be so hard on yourself - you probably don't sound the way you think you do (we often are too critical of our voice - especially if it is unique, but unique is a GREAT thing! You can stand out and be heard a lot better than all the others!)
I hear all the bass potential you have in your speaking voice and I think that is key to sounding good too, I can barely have any low end anywhere in my voice, is there a way to add that or am i just stuck sounding like a kid at even though I'm 30? Like even my low notes around A2 are mostly made of fry.
Hi, and thank you for the comment/question! The grass is always greener! My voice was even higher before getting Covid in Dec 2019 (for some reason it's going deeper - perhaps age related also) If you listen to Sebastian Bach he has an extraordinarily high speaking voice. I believe the way to get good at lower register is to keep working on your support to generate enough 'pressure' for your cords to vibrate well enough when loose and "low"
First time I’m trying it. Kinda of got it I think. Is my neck supposed to feel a bit funny afterwards or am I doing something wrong? 😅
Awesome that you're trying and getting it! As for your neck, as long as 'funny' doesn't hurt then I'm sure it's fine... it may feel different than you are used to and I'm sure that's fine as long as it doesn't HURT (pain is the enemy!)
12:10 when you stub your toe on the couch
I find myself starting off correctly, but then unconsciously, the sound starts to come from my throat. Help?
Are you holding back air with your abdominal muscles or with your false folds? Or is it a little of both?
Hi Justin, holding back the air is just by not trying to push air out - it's challenging to explain in text, but as an exercise, you could try singing in front of a match or lighter and trying not to blow it out (caution: try that at your own risk!) Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
An easy way to do it is to pretend you're pooping. You will notice a closing sensation in your throat. Those are your false folds closing. Now do the same movement but don't close fully and produce a sound while doing so. It should be compressed now. If you add more volume, your false fold distortion will kick in.
Most rock vocal coach talk out their ass lol but Jim actually knows what he's on about
Wow! Thank you for that huge compliment, really appreciate your support! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Now that I’m watching this ima have to assume most metal/rock singers use compression wrong for years before anyone tells them
When I try to do this, I always end up creating the sound with the throat instead of the diaphragm.
I get that totally, because I've been there too... try thinking of starting it off with a loud forceful laugh and focus on the lower abs doing the work... and once you start off the note, just keep pushing from the lower abdominal and see if that works for you. There are several other things that I could suggest because different things work for different people.... but too much to list here
Well, I can hold the same note for the same length at the end of the video, clean and loud, so I guess I am compressing at some basic level. But when it comes to adding grit, "pushing more from the abdomen" etc, that doesn't seem to come together.
Brother here sounds like Corey Tailor
Mark hamill sings??
The name is jim chandler!
Singing teacher told me a couple times, using your diaphram is like trying to shit. Same muscles.
Many vocal coaches say that, but that would be sending it out the wrong end. If you are using a lot of muscles to poop, you need more fiber!
Well, to be honest: These voices sound like Bon Jovi. Are you sure that Gillan, Osbourne, Plant, Dickinson, Halford or Lemmy used these technics?
very great video! i got the compression part but sadly I couldn't get any raspy voice after that
I kinda sound like Dumbledore or any old man while compressing LMAO
You can always come back to it and try later... sometimes after a little bit of messing around, you will find it... that's how I did it - just by messing around (although without someone specifically showing me, took me ages to figure out!)
"I GOT ANOTHER CONFE-"
I do inhale, but my voice just doesn't change.
OMG I GOT IT...one time...then lost it 😂
that means you can get it AGAIN... don't quit!