ANALYSIS: Using Stats to WIN More Games in FM24 | Zaragoza | Football Manager 24 | FM24
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2024
- I've been doing some extra curricular mathematics with Zaragoza to help us push for promotion!!
Football Manager has come a long way in recent years with the introduction of the Data Hub and an expanded selection of metrics, but sometimes we need just a little bit more. I take a look at Expected Goals Chain (xGC), Expected Goals Buildup (xGB) and Expected Threat (xT) and how we can use this to understand our strengths and weaknesses.
xG and xA
This video assumes a certain level of understanding of xG and xA. If you want to learn more about those, check out these articles:
statsbomb.com/soccer-metrics/...
theanalyst.com/eu/2021/03/wha...
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I think the reason I really love this channel, beyond the intelligence and unique way of playing this game, is that the comedy and musical interludes feel pure Taskmaster/Alex Horne to me.
I'll happily take that!!! Taskmaster is a classic (pretty much the only TV show I watch nowadays)
Hi, I recently started playing FM again for the first time in many years and, as (sort of) a professional football analyst (you'll be able to see what I mean by that through this channel), I was pointed to your skin - which I'm very much appreciating. That lead me to this video.
Expected Threat is definitely a statistically significant metric, and I praise its use. I strongly recommend disregarding xGBuildUp and Chain as largely irrelevant noise. Keep up the great work.
You are a Stats and Tactical Freak of Nature!!! Teach us your ways, Master 🙇🏾♂️
Thank you, dude. Not that much of a master, if I don't have the patience to work out xT!!
@@mustermannfm any recommendations to learn football tactics?
@@nathangama7236 watch as many games as you can. Check out things like TIFO on RUclips. Follow analysts like The Devil's DNA or Ben Griffs on Twitter!
I think above all else, the fact that you can make a video about this level of data analysis that also makes me audibly chuckle is the most impressive thing of all!
It's ridiculous for me to say "it's a game, it should never be taken seriously" after putting out a video where I've manually analysed every passing chain leading to a shot, but...it's a game, it should never be taken seriously!
By far the best Football Manager content creator. All those so-called tactics creators' videos looks like a toddlers' toy compare to this video.
That is very kind, thank you. I'm not one to knock other creators, though, who all do amazing work in their own way!
Im really glad your content is getting more views. This is my go to for FM fun.
Thank you, dude. I'm still flabbergasted anyone is watching, and remarkably grateful for it!
Excellent as always. Love the way you break things down. As a stats freak myself I love these videos.. BTW what tactic are you using?
Thank you, dude!
Literally, the tactic discussed last episode: ruclips.net/video/vZLMXH5S-gU/видео.html - everything is fluid though. I'll start with the basic formation (Raumdeuter on the left), but substitutions, game events, game state, will result in tweaks. And there will be changes between games, too. If a player is losing a lot of the ball, they might get Take Fewer Risks added or Shorter Passing, or I might add Be More Expressive if we've had a lot of the ball in previous games but were slow to release the final pass, etc... Nothing stays static.
The only person I’ll happily sit through and watch videos of - even as the dreaded spreadsheets show up. ❤
Here's the thing...I hate spreadsheets. Or at least, I hate tables. Great for holding information, horrible for breaking down that information!
@@mustermannfm pretty much this
Bravo mate, each video gets better and better. Top top content my friend.
Really appreciated, thank you!
Amazing and informative video, and i love it through and through. I use tablaeu for scout and squad management, getting Xt and chain build up is tough and time consuming. I really appreciate how you simplified it. SI could easily make these data available in the game, also I think the match analysis data should be available as a combined data of all matches. Like final 3rd entries.
15:39 worthy of every second.
I cut the section at the end where I pleaded with SI to make this information accessible, as it is essentially already there. In so much as the events are recorded, and the game has it's own xG model, so it could be easily extrapolated, but I also appreciate that the time/reward element might not be there. Let's see what FM25 has in store!
Really enjoyed the video :)
Thank you, dude! Glad you did!
Such a legendary channel amazing video again
Thank you, dude! Just glad you're enjoying it!
Your the 🐐 of FM content full stop . You really understand your audience & know how to keep them engaged.
Thank you, dude 🙏 much appreciated. I just try and focus on the things that interest me in FM, and hope others like it too 😂
I have watched a different fm channel while all of them provide different perspectives and are really good. Ur takes it a little further mate, love your production value and the effort you in your videos , the knowledge I gain and most of all when I watch your videos I wanna play the game immediately to think like you. I have been using your skin for the whole of FM24 and love it. And I'm not definitely not as proficient as you when it comes to data but when make a change using data and works it feels like eureka moment. Appreciate you for re kindling the interest in FM. And hopefully people understand the data hub is useful in FM if you use it the right way and also FM devs take your Inputs for next version of FM data hub changes.
It's those "eureka" moments that are so rewarding. Problem solving is always satisfying!! At least when the solution works 😂
I really appreciate the kind words! It's really humbling, and makes it worth while. Thank you!
Great video
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it!
This is class
Thank you, dude 🙏 gladyou enjoyed it!
Great video as always
Suggestion if using spreadsheets again is to place a Dot or highlight the fields your are referring to as you voice over. Saw you trying to do this with mouse and row highlights I still lost track a few times.
That's a great idea, thank you. Usually, I recreate information as images, so that I can be more dynamic with how information is changed (like recreating the xG map from scratch, so it could be overlaid on various pitch sizes/shapes). I will keep that in mind for future!
Is there some way to give a super like? Thank you for your efforts to dig deep and bring the real world search for the cutting edge to fm. Great content.
Thank you, dude! Glad you enjoyed it. I do think it's interesting seeing how conversations around football in real life can be applied to FM!
god i wish you could just make an app linked to fm with all these stats and concepts you explain to expand my tactical and fm knowledge, think that would be the dream
Just need to keep coming back and rewatching the videos 😉
@@mustermannfm always gonna come back for you pal x
How can I get the skin to get all these info too please?
Wonderful video, really inspired me to go in-depth into the game
The skin is linked in the description, but please be aware the squad view is not part of the public release.
You do not need a skin to access the data, however. It is available by going into a previously played match, and clicking on the "Analytical Data" button
And breath! Wonderful! I got nothing else!
🤣🤣 it is all a bit intense for a video game, right!?
Let the data consume us all...
I submit to the God of Mathematics!!
There's a spreadsheet for that...
Quick question, do you play your games on vertical scrolling?
Yes, I find it's the most consistent angle that allows me to get a reasonable level of zoom (to feel a little closer to the action) - and all the games are recorded live. I hope that it makes putting together these videos a little more interesting.
When playing just for myself, I'd have it on sideline view, lowest height, maximum zoom, reversed, to be as close to a "dugout" view as possible.
Hi mate, did you create the xT map or did you find it somewhere? How can we use/create this map for us? Thanks
I did make it for the video, but a quick google images search for xT map and you'll be able to download something you can overlay.
@@mustermannfm I did Google it first but your metrics are different form what i found in some zones..
@@FalseNine.9 there are many different xG/xT models out there. It's why you'll find different results if you use Opta, Statsbomb, etc...
@@mustermannfm That's interesting though...
Guys, somebody can explain me what the difference between key passes, open game passes, chanse created and how this is estimates game? lost possesion by player, during passing or when he drible a ball?
A key pass is the pass before a shot. If the shot is a goal, it is an assist.
An open-play key pass is a key pass that occurs in open play (e.g. not a set piece).
Chances created are key passes that result in a shot with high xG. I do not know the exact threshold, but these are what have been referred to in previous games as Clear Cut Chances.
Lost possession is whenever a player loses a ball. Whether it is an errant pass, being tackled, or a clearance to the opposition/out of play.
World class data analytics . U just on another level .
About the BTB , i would use him as Mezala support . It will gives u better box shape . With poacher striker . But thats depends on how u see ur team playing , for me i like to keep pushing with 5 on front . St , wings , mezala and AP , and 2 dms Anchor and DM .
No wingers only wingsback . with one stricker . With 3 on the back , thats very secure and very havy when attac. Give it a try
5 , 2 , 2, 1 , as the defenders are 2 wide center back . One PBD on cover .
Why im telling u this ? If i told u that since fm 15 , till now , i used to use 4,3,3 and fit the players into it , would u believe that , i may change sometime but like 99% uses 4,3,3 . Now the thing is after watching u , i started to think like ok i'm going to do what mustermann doing , i wanna try to be smart as he is trying 😂😂 . Stop playing this game like i did since 2010 maybe .
I think FM comes alive when you start to think about the details. What do I want the team doing? Which players do I want in these areas? How will I stop the opposition from scoring? And so on. Then experimenting to find the solutions with the players you've got!!
I'm 19 games into my first season with Triestina, and working up the resolve to go through and chart this for a couple hundred shots... yikes. Question, do you ignore shots from corner kicks, and I guess also penalties and direct FKs?
It's a big undertaking, but can be super useful. Even if it is just so much as considering the broader impact players might have outside of the headline figures.
Set pieces are included. They are still part of your chance creation and a player's contribution is valid whichever phase of play it comes from. After all, if that players weren't on the pitch that chance wouldn't have been created (although, who knows, you might have created a better chance instead).
Penalties are also very useful because you can see the action before hand in the analysis screen, and awarding the player that wins the penalty the xGC and xA can help identify players who are causing the opposition problems.
@@mustermannfm I may be an idiot but how do you see the xG for a particular shot in the analytical view? (where you can view the linked events.)
@@willowspuppy cross reference it with the xG Timeline. So, I recorded the minute as I worked through the chain, then filled in the xG after from the timeline.
@@mustermannfm I appreciate the responses. Super helpful. For penalties, do you award the xG of the penalty shot itself? Not sure what else you could do since there was no shot attempt prior to the pen.
@@willowspuppy Everyone in the chain is awarded xGC, even if it is only 1 person. No different from a striker seizing on a wayward backpass.
The goalscorer and assister (if there is one) do not get awarded xGB.
I need a version of the intro warning for my own works
Everything should come with a warning!!
This amount of data analysis for FM. I have to wonder: do you work in data analysis for a football club or do you actually work in some form of data analysis at all?
That'd be lovely (well, as "lovely" as work can be), but no. I've just played FM for a long time. After all, it is just a glorified spreadsheet!
I've been wondering with all the FM questions posted and the "If you were hired to work for" lead up if you had been approached. They could certainly use your graphical and statistical prowess.
@@bill_benjamin I just think the process is interesting, working out what is valuable/important to you. We all have our own vision somewhere of what the perfect game looks like, and it's cool to discuss it.
Of course, SI, if you're reading this...that's not to say I wouldn't like a job!!
XG chain, xT chain…
No wonder why Red Bull teams are so narrow and direct, they wanna be Vertical…
Or it is just me 😂
It is a huge part of the Gegenpress philosophy. Most goals are scored in chains of 6 or less passes, which is why they look to turn the ball over high, where fewer passes would be required to get through on goal against a disorganised defence!
i would wager you just need a program to copy/paste this information into spread sheets giving you each players total avg + and total avg - and then their net avg per game or per 90 minutes...also im a brainless mongoloid who can barely write his own name let alone write any computer script :D cheers
That's the challenge. It would have to essentially be a macro, working systematically through each chance, revealing the linked events, scan the numbers that appear on the screen, identify which is the final and the penultimate action within the chain, then cross reference it against the xG timeline. Far, far beyond my skill level that's for sure!!!