There actually is a connection between Gothic art and architecture, and eyeliner wearing Goths... but it IS complicated! Along with the revival of Gothic a+a in around the 19th century, came the birth of the horror novel, with Frankenstein, and not long after, Dracula and others. This genre was driven by the industrial revolution, which brought with it feelings of displacement, melancholy, and a longing for a simpler past. The Gothic youth subculture, closely allied with punk and other youth subcultures, is driven by similar feelings, as the Industrial Revolution and it's characteristic social upheavals and injustices have never really ended. As such, "Goths" are attracted to "Victorian Gothic" and horror literature... back to Frankenstein and Dracula. AND, they like to model their looks after those of characters in these novels! That's why the black jewellery you see on goth girls often (not always - it's a very broad movement) looks very Victorian! I was most curious about this whole thing while in school because I was studying Gothic Art + Architecture while living with a Goth. He jokingly used to say, "I'm not Goth, I'm Romanesque". 3 years later, I finally got the joke! He was also a student of Art History. It finally really came together when I read this tiny and occasionally very funny little book: www.amazon.ca/What-Goth-Voltaire/dp/1578633222 I recommend it.
I have to admit that I struggle to understand art, and while people are being blown away with it, I sit there thinking, "I don't get it". Architecture though is fascinating and I love learning about the history behind the place, the story. I have a few architecture focused videos planned for the coming months! :)
One of the reasons I started this channel is because so many people claim to not "get it." Which is totally normal. One of the reasons I think people still struggle to understand art is that there are not enough accessible resources for people to learn about it - at least it's still very underrepresented in the RUclips EDU world :P. Working in a museum for the past two years made me realize that sometimes people think they don't get it - when in fact they do - they just need to be shown how to relate to and contextualize the information. :)
It's good that you have a focus and goal on your channel, mine feels a bit all over the place. As for art, and Education, theres no better place for it on RUclips, so you are in the right place. It would be good to get a 'insiders' view of individual museums and art galleries.
One correction The facade of the Abbey of Saint Denis is shown as an example of a facade, with the statement that Gothic facades were asymmetrical, followed later by a comparative statement that Romanesque facades were symmetrical. This in inaccurate. A symmetrical facade was always the intention. The asymmetry of a Gothic Cathedral facade can occur in three ways, all of which are very straightforward. 1. The plan was symmetrical but the second tower was never finished above the roof-line. 2. The building was symmetrical but one tower fell down. 3. Building halted after the first tower was constructed, and when it began again, perhaps 100 years later, styles had changed a great deal and the committee decided on something more modern, perhaps with the intention of replacing the earlier tower in due course, but this did not eventuate (Chartres Cathedral) On the ther hand, Gothic domestic architecture is often asymmetrical.
Thanks so much for your support! I have been considering crowd funding for a while I was just never sure if people would actually be interested in contributing. It is good to know that there is interest though. Thank you =) I will let you know if I decide to set one up. =)
That's a very good question. My knowledge of Byzantine art is limited so I apologize if my answer is not sufficient for your needs. In general, Byzantine art and architecture (mostly predominant in the Eastern Roman Empire) - with all the colourful mosaics, symbolic decorations and elaborate frescos - was a lot more expressive and ornate in comparison to classical Romanesque styles. This for sure would have trickled back into Western Europe through the ages - providing a framework for more decorative and expressive art and architectural styles like Gothic. Amor Sciendi, do you have some additional and/or more detailed insights?
Byzantine culture influenced Gothic art and architecture mostly indirectly through the Carolingians who copied their art and architecture at Ravenna directly from Constantinople. Carolingian styles were thought to be authentically Roman by the Northern Europeans (the "Goths") and so influenced Romanesque and eventually Gothic. This even included handwriting styles. There was a second influx of Byzantine culture into Western Europe during the crusades when the Western crusader knights visited Constantinople for themselves (and in some cases stole relics and works of art to take home with them). The final influx of Byzantine (and Greek and Roman) culture would have come through the Arabic world after they had conquered Constantinople in 1453 and had assimilated the works in its libraries and spread them to their territories in the Iberian peninsula. This last influx would have affected primarily the Renaissance. Throughout the Middle Ages there would also have been a trickle of direct trade via the Mediterranean between Constantinople and the West as far as Ireland.Thus we can see Byzantine motifs in ancient manuscripts from Ireland and Iona. The Vikings also traded directly with Constantinople, not through the Mediterranean trade routes, but overland through Russia and via the Russian river system. This would show up primarily in jewelry styles favored by the Vikings. But Gothic architecture was almost entirely a Northern European cultural development. Neither Romanesque nor Byzantine architecture had need for large windows because of the bright sunlight in Rome and Constantinople, and Gothic was never popular in Southern regions, except possibly for Spain and Portugal, where the windows were kept smaller even in Gothic buildings. Durham Cathedral was built by the Normans soon after they conquered England in 1066, and by the time they had finished it, they had converted almost entirely to the Gothic style. It's a great transitional building in addition to being very pleasing in its own right. St. Denis in Paris is considered to be the definitive transitional Gothic building.
Not a criticism but Tower Bridge and London Bridge are two different bridges. The one shown is Tower Bridge like you labeled and not London Bridge as you said. London Bridge is a big concrete structure that was built in the 70s, not gothic at all, although there has been some kind of bridge on the site since Roman times.
Hey, nice channel and great video! I particulary like how advanced was the structural conception of the gothic buildings. The structure was independent from the walls of the building with the use of the buttress, which allowed them to build taller builiginds with larger openings on the walls. In the renaissane, walls went back to being Load bearring. independent structure was only used again in modernism, centuries later.
Yes I was going to talk a bit further about the structural significance of flying buttresses but ran out of time haha. When I was studying architecture in school It took me a while to appreciate the combination of structural innovation and aesthetic beauty in Gothic architecture. But once I did it was such a delight to learn about. Glad to know someone else also gets it! Thanks for watching.
There actually is a connection between Gothic art and architecture, and eyeliner wearing Goths... but it IS complicated!
Along with the revival of Gothic a+a in around the 19th century, came the birth of the horror novel, with Frankenstein, and not long after, Dracula and others. This genre was driven by the industrial revolution, which brought with it feelings of displacement, melancholy, and a longing for a simpler past.
The Gothic youth subculture, closely allied with punk and other youth subcultures, is driven by similar feelings, as the Industrial Revolution and it's characteristic social upheavals and injustices have never really ended. As such, "Goths" are attracted to "Victorian Gothic" and horror literature... back to Frankenstein and Dracula. AND, they like to model their looks after those of characters in these novels! That's why the black jewellery you see on goth girls often (not always - it's a very broad movement) looks very Victorian!
I was most curious about this whole thing while in school because I was studying Gothic Art + Architecture while living with a Goth. He jokingly used to say, "I'm not Goth, I'm Romanesque". 3 years later, I finally got the joke! He was also a student of Art History.
It finally really came together when I read this tiny and occasionally very funny little book: www.amazon.ca/What-Goth-Voltaire/dp/1578633222 I recommend it.
Well, that's a stretch.
I have to admit that I struggle to understand art, and while people are being blown away with it, I sit there thinking, "I don't get it". Architecture though is fascinating and I love learning about the history behind the place, the story. I have a few architecture focused videos planned for the coming months! :)
One of the reasons I started this channel is because so many people claim to not "get it." Which is totally normal. One of the reasons I think people still struggle to understand art is that there are not enough accessible resources for people to learn about it - at least it's still very underrepresented in the RUclips EDU world :P. Working in a museum for the past two years made me realize that sometimes people think they don't get it - when in fact they do - they just need to be shown how to relate to and contextualize the information. :)
It's good that you have a focus and goal on your channel, mine feels a bit all over the place. As for art, and Education, theres no better place for it on RUclips, so you are in the right place. It would be good to get a 'insiders' view of individual museums and art galleries.
I'm so glad I discovered you!!!! This is awesome!
Thanks Nancy! I super love your channel and am seriously so flattered :3
Suggestion for a video, Romanticism vs. Baroque or separate topics. Is there a video on Romanesque? I have trouble identifying between each.
That’s amazing! Thank you so much!!
One correction The facade of the Abbey of Saint Denis is shown as an example of a facade, with the statement that Gothic facades were asymmetrical, followed later by a comparative statement that Romanesque facades were symmetrical. This in inaccurate. A symmetrical facade was always the intention. The asymmetry of a Gothic Cathedral facade can occur in three ways, all of which are very straightforward.
1. The plan was symmetrical but the second tower was never finished above the roof-line.
2. The building was symmetrical but one tower fell down.
3. Building halted after the first tower was constructed, and when it began again, perhaps 100 years later, styles had changed a great deal and the committee decided on something more modern, perhaps with the intention of replacing the earlier tower in due course, but this did not eventuate (Chartres Cathedral)
On the ther hand, Gothic domestic architecture is often asymmetrical.
This is great, more architecture videos please!
Simply an amazing video.
I'm using this for school. Thanks!
do you have a patreon that i can contribute toi ?
Thanks so much for your support! I have been considering crowd funding for a while I was just never sure if people would actually be interested in contributing. It is good to know that there is interest though. Thank you =) I will let you know if I decide to set one up. =)
Great video. Just one thing - that's Tower Bridge, not London Bridge
hi!! can you tell me What was the impact of Byzantine art on Gothic art? i only need a
Brief background of the socio-political situation will do
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That's a very good question. My knowledge of Byzantine art is limited so I apologize if my answer is not sufficient for your needs. In general, Byzantine art and architecture (mostly predominant in the Eastern Roman Empire) - with all the colourful mosaics, symbolic decorations and elaborate frescos - was a lot more expressive and ornate in comparison to classical Romanesque styles. This for sure would have trickled back into Western Europe through the ages - providing a framework for more decorative and expressive art and architectural styles like Gothic. Amor Sciendi, do you have some additional and/or more detailed insights?
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Byzantine culture influenced Gothic art and architecture mostly indirectly through the Carolingians who copied their art and architecture at Ravenna directly from Constantinople. Carolingian styles were thought to be authentically Roman by the Northern Europeans (the "Goths") and so influenced Romanesque and eventually Gothic. This even included handwriting styles. There was a second influx of Byzantine culture into Western Europe during the crusades when the Western crusader knights visited Constantinople for themselves (and in some cases stole relics and works of art to take home with them). The final influx of Byzantine (and Greek and Roman) culture would have come through the Arabic world after they had conquered Constantinople in 1453 and had assimilated the works in its libraries and spread them to their territories in the Iberian peninsula. This last influx would have affected primarily the Renaissance. Throughout the Middle Ages there would also have been a trickle of direct trade via the Mediterranean between Constantinople and the West as far as Ireland.Thus we can see Byzantine motifs in ancient manuscripts from Ireland and Iona. The Vikings also traded directly with Constantinople, not through the Mediterranean trade routes, but overland through Russia and via the Russian river system. This would show up primarily in jewelry styles favored by the Vikings.
But Gothic architecture was almost entirely a Northern European cultural development. Neither Romanesque nor Byzantine architecture had need for large windows because of the bright sunlight in Rome and Constantinople, and Gothic was never popular in Southern regions, except possibly for Spain and Portugal, where the windows were kept smaller even in Gothic buildings. Durham Cathedral was built by the Normans soon after they conquered England in 1066, and by the time they had finished it, they had converted almost entirely to the Gothic style. It's a great transitional building in addition to being very pleasing in its own right. St. Denis in Paris is considered to be the definitive transitional Gothic building.
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Not a criticism but Tower Bridge and London Bridge are two different bridges. The one shown is Tower Bridge like you labeled and not London Bridge as you said. London Bridge is a big concrete structure that was built in the 70s, not gothic at all, although there has been some kind of bridge on the site since Roman times.
The largest gothic church in Europe is not in Amiens, but it is in Cologne Germany
Hey, nice channel and great video!
I particulary like how advanced was the structural conception of the gothic buildings. The structure was independent from the walls of the building with the use of the buttress, which allowed them to build taller builiginds with larger openings on the walls.
In the renaissane, walls went back to being Load bearring. independent structure was only used again in modernism, centuries later.
Yes I was going to talk a bit further about the structural significance of flying buttresses but ran out of time haha. When I was studying architecture in school It took me a while to appreciate the combination of structural innovation and aesthetic beauty in Gothic architecture. But once I did it was such a delight to learn about. Glad to know someone else also gets it! Thanks for watching.
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