The Keyboard that Speed Players Tried to Hide... | Wooting 60HE review
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Today we're looking at the latest 'osu cheater keyboard', the Wooting 60HE (though it applies to the wooting TWO HE as well). Unlike the last keyboard that caught everyone in a rave (that one last year polled at 125hz... bruh...), the Wooting keyboards are impressively well engineered and I'm quite impressed. Let's take a look at how the keyboard holds up as a gaming keyboard and how much of a 'hack' it is.
Pre-order the Wooting 60HE here: next.wooting.io/wooting-60he
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction (basic info)
01:40 Stock sound test
01:32 Cont. Introduction (basic info)
03:53 Modded sound test
04:20 The Construction
06:03 The Software
09:56 What's Rapid Trigger?
11:16 The Gameplay
15:49 The Bad
16:45 Conclusion
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EDIT: I trimmed out the part of the video that talked about north facing switches. It was my complete mistake not to have tried installing the switches the other way (what a dumb move on my part, especially knowing that from how the hall effect switches look, it could be rotated in any direction). Sorry about the mistake!
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@@solicoli that's cutting down trees without replanting them
@@solicoli True
@@solicoli ok
Thanks a lot for spending your time on a review! You absolutely did it justice by additional lubing it and showing the internals. To help answer some questions:
1. Each graphic on the PCBA under the key is actually from a founder that bought the signature edition when we launched the board.
2. 100 000 000 click lifespan because that's when the machine after months of non-stop pressing is like, well really like fuck me, why won't this just break?
3. You can 180 degree rotate the Lekker switch and install it south facing. Works all the same.
Taking note of that transparent strap, that would indeed make it easier 🤩
used to use your fortnite double movement program, worked really well
@@qarz fortnite battle pass
3 = Thanks to the magic of magnets.
How do they work? No one f@#$ knows :D but they're awesome.
nice
Will you eventually sell the switches and pcb seperately for stuff like case swaps etc?
This keyboard has easily been the best I've ever used for catch the beat personally. Just feels way snappier and the overall control is much better, very much recommend.
OH RIGHT. it's good for catch because you stop moving faster!
My biggest problem with my current keyboard and my laptop keyboard is that It will stall for 1/4 of a second and it will end runs
@@tokaku Yes! A lot of higher level catch is being able to precisely stop on some patterns along with being able to land on important transitions, so rapid trigger has been super helpful for that kind of thing, especially on dt.
@@dahcreeper893 mine will arrive in early January and i’m way too hyped cus i keep hearing only good things about this kb
steel series apex pro is better
Electrical engineer here. The reason they have a lot of Vias is because on a four layer board one of your inner layers is the ground plane, and then you usually put a ground plane on top after routing all the wires. You place as many Vias as possible to connect the two ground planes such that you have a really good connection for current to flow and for good capacitance. TLDR lots of Vias = good electrical engineer
Yeah, this 100%. There are very long horizontal and vertical traces on the board, so you really need to keep the return path short. On a side note, outside of component density, four layer is much better for EMI certification. We struggled a lot with that with two layer boards in the past.
We call it stitching the layers where I learned PCB design, super important when you need to isolate components that are prone to noise like antennas and other communications components
You can rotate the switches to make them south facing to get around the cherry profile issue :D
for those who don't know, you can only rotate the switch for this board since the post and hall effect sensor thing seems symmetrical. but on a traditional mech, the pcb itself would have to come with South-Facing led sockets. so don't go rotating your mx browns and being sad!
@@Anuki how could you switch them lol? open holes on the pcb or just twist them off
what does this mean
having analog inputs on a keyboard is awesome. I can see people using that for games like Trackmania, where traditionally keyboard has always had a disadvantage compared to controller because you can only full steer / tap steer as opposed to smoothly steering.
Yep, and the best feature is you can trash talk your opponents in chat while racing.
tokaku, your shot composition, narrative arc, versatility in considering multiple perspectives, and general quality and pacing have notably improved with every video I have watched over the last couple years. Really great job with this review. It is a delight to watch your content
I think most people would think that the swap between this from a normal mechanical keyboard is easy, but the learning curve is actually kind of gotti for those very used to conventional switches. Definitely an insane tool when mastered.
your voice is very relaxing to listen to and you sound so professional in your videos. keep it the amazing work!! great video as always!
Okay, this just might be the the nicest sounding keyboard I've ever heard. It's too bad I'm not in the market for a new keeb...
Nicest prebuilt stock?
Tokaku reviews are great as always! Super fun to watch even though there is no chance of me even toching one of those Lol, anyway really thanks for the content!
lmfao the people in the back at 6:40 killed me
i have so many questions
"If I stay perfectly still, maybe they won't notice me."
I think it's her sister lmao
Also, she does a lot of cosplays on her Instagram and it's hella good
This was a pretty good informative video, like really good analysis and conclusion of the rapid key feature
In my experience, I used to use a Cherry Silver K70 and I found that my accuracy on Osu was better with the consistent actuation point, it will take me a long time to learn this Wooting HE keyboard and I will probably need to be more "on it" to hit very good accuracy. I have never been all that good at Osu though so I'm positive there are other players that could preach to this board's features in a few years once they've grown accustomed to it.
For CSGO and Valorant though, CRACKED. Absolutely a game changer to be able to stop your inputs faster when rounding corners and stopping to shoot. There was next to no learning period with these games, pretty much just an instant advantage.
Loved this review. You didn't just talk about feel, looks and sound like I've seen in other reviews, but went pretty deep into the technical side as well and made educated guesses of who this might be for and what advantages/disadvantages it (might) have.
I personally used cheap bluetooth keyboards from Logitech for a long time (which are suprisingly decent imo lol), but now that I got into rhythm games I was looking for an endgame keyboard and this one just looks too interesting to miss out on. I'm sure that once you master it it's gonna be insanely good.
9:25
Tokaku has a good taste in gaming
Edit:les goooooooooo got a heart
what game is that?
@@9cirno_ Monster Hunter
ikrrr i had the same thought
@@9cirno_ Monster Hunter World
a rookie mistake, rip heart
edit: He got back the heart pog
i think for getting used to rapid trigger, enabling the "continuous mode" advanced rapid trigger setting and then choosing a rapid trigger sensitivity equal to your actuation point can help. if you do this, you can make it so that the distance you have to press down the key is always the same, e.g. if you set your actuation point to 0.8mm and your rapid trigger (downstroke) sensitivity to 0.8mm as well. in contrast, if you had for example 0.4mm rapid trigger sensitivity but 1mm actuation point then you would have to press the key down 1mm the first time but 0.4mm for subsequent presses until you lift the key all the way up, which might be unintuitive. the continuous mode also helps here, for reasons that are hard to explain in a youtube comment.
Thats a really high quality video. Thank you! :)
I love you so much. I finally found a review of this keyboard in a osu/mania point of view🙏
I HAVE THIS AND OMG ITS AMAZING!!!!! I bought it after deep searching for good rhythm game keyboards. Also you can change the actuation, theres 4 analog modes and i love it! Oh and modding/relubing it is a dream.
how long did you wait to receive it?
Dat video production on the typing speed sections. Hot damn.
I can vouch that the 50g springs help a lot in terms of stamina
Holyyy... This is one good keyboard for the money. I personally love the idea of hall effect sensors. Might buy this.
personally as an owner of a wooting, the wooting made me stop using my custom made keyboard. I even traded from tactile to clicky switches since that custom is only for typing now.
@@c-valueenigma4977 damn. You're getting me close to buying one fr now
@@c-valueenigma4977 whats the custom specs?
this keyboard looks and sounds amazing, like woah! this is like the perfect keyboard even if it's actually miles away from that
3:53 I literally can't believe how good that sounds for a just lubed gaming board. That's INSANE. I might pick one up and I've got a Vega and Mode65
Do you like your mode or Vega more? :)
I've been out of the osu loop for a while but even I heard about this ordeal, thanks for looking into it ^^
I have it. Preordered it like 6 months ago. Really high quality but I think having it made me realize I prefer my old logitech 65% keyboard for the arrow keys and F1-12 buttons at the top
Using mod tap to make arrow keys out of the cluster in the bottom right corner was really useful for me, haven't missed mine since. F keys are a shame and kind of annoying with function layers but worth for having esc be closer imo
there is an 100% version that they sell
@@Sequoyas that's too much. I think 65% is optimim for gaming cuz it has what you want and its compact. Idk anyone who uses the num pad and stuff. If you are working a desk job the 100% version would be sick
logitech keyboards have been a joke for so long lmao, last row layout makes them so fkin hard to replace keycaps, and their keycap is so shit as well so you're just stuck with a keyboard which looks like it have been through the WW2 even tho you've only used it for 4 months. you made a good choice switch to the 60HE, i doubt you will ever wanna go back to your logitech
@@Agent_Alpha I probably wont go back cuz of how much money I spent on my wooting but my logitech keyboard worked great and stood the test of time. Definitely a solid backup
yes! ive been looking into the wooting 60HE so i can buy it and use it for mania :]
The software for multiple bindings per key seems super useful but I’m almost scared to set things up that way in case I need to go back to another board for any reason
I haven't watched the full clip, but I have to say it. Thank you for the subtitles thought the entire.
I have a question about 3:48 "and fixing the stabilizers"
I understand it's likely beyond the scope of this video, but I'm curious what we would need to do to fix the stabilizers? Do you have a video that covers those kind of details?
Great editing and presentation!
For the switch being north facing, iirc there's a video I watched said that you can just switch to south facing and can use cherry profile... I forget the video but I think it's from badseed tech modding this keyboard.
holy shit i need this keyboard for highspeed mania maps
I really want this but it’s hella expensive
very pricey but the experience having it felt like it did match the price pretty well, especially knowing what's inside of it and all that...
Its really not when you look at the competition, you'll find plenty of non-analog boards costing the same or more.
Nah
Just steal it
@@tokaku I see.
what is the display sitting on a stand on the right at 15:20 ? i assume, anyway, that it's a display that's just turned off for whatever reason; don't know what else it would be.
also good video :) i really like the shots with the typing test above the kb
thank you for the review, tom scott of keyboards
I like how when you stream I can just hear you hitting the space bar XD
I miss not having to run keyboard software for cool led effects on keyboard + it has so much cool functionality. Very cool 👍
another slay from tokaku
Just for the stock thocc it has it's on my wishlist!
If I would get a wooting (and I am strongly considering it) I would probably not play with rapid trigger in osu!, but I'd like to use an analog kb in trackmania and just have a solid kb with a good lifespan for osu! as well.
Oh my god that sound test.
There's a keyboard by the German keyboard company Das Keyboard that can be used to indicate things like GPU, CPU and RAM status or receiving a gmail, status of a certain stock or even the change in the weather. I have the 5QS and I basically use it as a task manager.
Yeah but das keyboard uses the worst switches and the bells and whistles are the only saving grace
I'm just realizing she's as great as she is while having only 1 eye, a bit like the captain in Bleach who had to use that strap on his eye to hold his power ; she has to limit her awesomeness to fit in the screen & not bother us, how awesome, glad I noticed it!
tokaku Anne pro also has the tap function pre-built into the keyboard
Lucky you got a founders edition with the graphics and the cable. Wish I got it early enough to get that 😭 mine comes in two weeks
Who the hell upload a RUclips video at 3 am?
Tokaku: Oh boy it's 3 am!
the double time outro is back
A very nice alternative for this keyboard I think would be the Drunkdeer keyboards! They also have analog inputs and rapid trigger and have an 85% version!
Cool keyboard but where did you get that deskmat it looks real cool
I actually knew about this keyboard a long time ago and it's still the best keyboard till now which is surprising!
Anyways have a nice day! :)
man im still using my Wooting One Korean Pro Edition keyboard i got years ago and its still awesome as hell. I mostly play mania and etterna and i do vibro so easily now.
that keyboad sounds amazing
time to wait till christmas!
That strap on the side looks like an Off-White belt, the drip tho
Man I wish they made a TKL. I use the "unused" buttons like break and pause for recording, muting, and such. Perhaps I might try out that full size
you can actually swap the direction of the switch to south facing to support cherry profile
15:41 Finally I got the right explanation about side effects from rapid trigger on mania, that surprisingly makes the gameplay more difficult than I thought
The incredible thing about rapid switch from what I can tell is you can NEVER short stroke the key. ANY impact can trigger it.
boge recently got a wooting keyboard and i thought that it was a thing that came out super recently but everyone seem to know what that was which confused me a little. and than this video got recommended to me and i didn't expect that it was a thing for that long for some reason.
1:31 “don’t waste your time on me you’re already a voice inside my head” rhythm
I sincerely hope that this very video blows up in views. I seethe the custom keyboard community for not adopting real innovation/improvement (EE side and to a degree, ME side). Thanks, Tokaku :).
Bruh second video about this in a day
this board is still on preorder, and razer has been selling one that does this for a while now. it’s not new nor are they the first company to do it.
I think it has that amount of layers because the swithes are actually like motion sensors, where a key can be double function, but to have that double function it means that each key must have double circuits to the main pcb and each function will be controlled in how deep the button actually is. But this is just a theory I don't see any other purpose of wasting resources on having multiple layers, even if the intention was to have a stronger plaque the could just make it thicker...
i know this is unrelated to the video in every way, but whats the best way i can practice having accurate inputs? in other words, sometimes i accidentally let go too soon on a hold note, don't press enough times (single note into hold, and end up missing the hold note), sometimes i press the wrong input and the right input because i can correct fast enough (end up having misses on lets say 4k where I'm supposed to press D but accidentally press F for example) etc. whats the best way i can prevent all of these? like is there a specific song i should play over and over again? i know just generally practicing helps and also getting in longer sessions but its really irritating, especially when I'm trying to practice alone.
Woooooooo that clacky stock? woah
I’m personally still not great at osu but tbh I might get this anyway despite needing more practice before I really need any upgrades to do better. I’m still using an old keyboard that I had before getting my computer and while it works okay as just a regular keyboard, it honestly sucks for games, especially osu. The force needed to actually press down the keys is way too much, so it’s quite difficult to press the keys on time, especially for anything that requires really quick repeated hits
You can replace the case of the board with a tofu 60, and have no compatibility issues
wooting 60he is nice because you can put the pcb into another keyboard case that uses the gh60 tray mount design. I still won't buy one but it's cool
I would probably use it with the blade60 case
Why do I watch every Wooting review that exists online
this keyboard is so cool
this would be so crazy for clone hero
hey! long time no see
_woo!_ a new hardware review!
I was FLOORED by the sound profile on this thing
If a company has not picked this girl up as a key board engineering director they need to lol she has got this subject figured out and has found her niche in life I’m beyond impressed at this review and this product
Steam controller users have enjoyed this input option on the analog triggers for years :)
You can use an Xbox or ps4 pad with steam input if you want to try it out
Yeah, but the issue is, well, everything else that comes with using a controller. The lack of precision compared to a mouse, the inability to use your entire arm/wrist to spam a key, etc. Don't get me wrong, they have their place, but saying to just use a controller for that lone reason is not a good idea.
@@Jono997 I'm suggesting that people test the idea with stuff they already have to get a feel for what wooting rapid trigger might be like (before they spend 170 usd). I'm not telling people to play osu with an analog stick.
I've already modded the crap out of my wooting. 😂
Tfw the mods were more expensive than they keyboard itself. I got lubed lighter springs in these because I play mania and pressing keys with my pinky is hard with default springs even with low actuation force.
Rapid trigger actually helps with ln release timings even though I was expecting to help more in jacks. Also make sure to lower your rapid trigger sensitivity when playing long notes. You'll slider break less.
7:57 this is actually what UNIX layout looks like, CTRL and Capslock r switched. and i prefer this because my pinky finger dont have to bend entirely to use ctrl.
It’s 60% to save desk space for gaming in e sports and it gives you much more mousepad space. It honestly the only size I’d buy and I think many other can agree.
Got mines yesterday and I play mania and it’s mostly REALLY good for jacks and vibro. Jacks mostly for ratio like I played a map with 78 perfects and 2k marvelous. And it’s ofc good for vibro lol, I downloaded some vibro maps and got some A and S ranks and I can’t vibro so thanks wooting lol. And I agree with the accuracy with the rapid trigger for stream maps like JS and hs and speed, I noticed that I have a more terrible ratio, more greats but less misses but barely would beat my previous pb’s. It works for certain maps, but stream maps is a no, for me at least
Good thing Kamehameha power contest by DBZ is a thing of the past
oh no now I have to choose which one to lube my cubes or my keyboards!
Finally a Wooting review that has ACTUAL gameplay review. instead of those keyboard reviewers who review keyboards and don't show how good it can be
I love how I've been watching someone casually cosplay Tanjiro since I saw the haori
Thought of getting it for mania and then i realized that im a jack main in mania and i always lift up my fingers completely. Wouldn’t quite benefit from it unfortunately.
@tokaku Excellent Review! 💯
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wowww so best sis 😍😍😍 you must be so rich lah ah bei sing kok gui keypad is too expenside la sis omaigod
oh look it’s wooting!! I love their keyboards :D
My mouth dropped at how good this keyboard sounds
I do miss playing scbw. These games would have been so much fun to warm up on and exercise. This keyboard would have been good in lan more than online due to latency?
I like the strap a lot
I totally agree, they need to make a 75% version
You are my favorite RUclipsr. I have not watched one of your videos that is not incredibly well researched or incredibly entertaining
aw thank you! though this video had a mistake about the north facing switches (they're both facing). oops
@@tokaku haha it happens
Love the IKEA deskpad
So i think you can custumize each key individually. At least thats what i saw in other videos about this keyboard. I'm talking about the actuation point.
Oh my god the sound compared to my Huntsman Mini.
The look kinda reminds me of the hyperx alloy origins keyboard
Oh my, how can you play that fast ? It's amazing !
6:41 who is that in the background ? lol & why homie in the red lookin mad sketch lol
as an owner of a 2 year old steelseries apex pro i think its time to do the jump on a new keyboard, this rapid trigger is definitely something worth buying a new keyboard for, stuff like strafing or movement in general will become far better