Thanks Stan! I'm on a job right now a bit over my bending skill level, but with this and your last video I'm impressing them with the fast learning. Your a better teacher than the guys on the job. It's a High school emergency generator retrofit, so it's offset city in the overheads. Much appreciated.
I've got the manual for my Klein bender, which I believe is a 30 degree unit like your Ideal, and your discussion here is helping the manual make more sense. I appreciate you doing these videos, they would have helped in my previous garage wiring but these came out after I did it, lol!
De lo mejor k he visto en utube...simple y bien explicado ...tengo 25 años de experiencia y por los últimos 4 empecé con EMT Pipe....siempre me mantuve alejado temeroso de usar EMT....pero el trabajo es empezar y echarle ganas....además.....sin saber doblar pipa se limita muchísimo las posibilidades de k te contraten ...ánimo...poco a poco le vas agarrando chiste y se va haciendo más fácil....
I'm new to the trade and I have plenty of "Old Timers" trying to show me the correct way to bend but they have a harder time explaining it.Im new and your videos are definitely easier to follow than the peopletryi g to teach me. Thanks a million for the informative lesson hope you put out more videos for us "young pups" coming up in the trade.
I would definitely buy if you made a simple video series and sold it :P. If you recorded a bunch of conduit bends in the field with how and why you made the bends, it would get an insane amount of views. Great stuff!
For those that want to know why..... If you were wondering why you can't go over 360 degrees. Think of it like if the 360 degrees is a circle. If you try to pull wire around a circle it tightened up like if it was wound around a pipe. The more you go over 360 degrees, the tighter it gets. Like Stan said, every little bend adds up. Stan, next time show how to make a box bend. I made so many on a job once, I bought a box bender. Was fast, just stick the end in and push the lever down....instant box termination offset!
That was great Stan. I’m not a pro electrician, though I’ve done a fair amount for my own company until we sold it in 2004, and I decided to retire. Don’t use it that much these days other than for my basement and garage shops. It can be very confusing to people. I have the 1/2” and 3/4” Ideal models, but older, so the handles have no info on them. I’ve never even heard of the Gardner.
You are so right that Ideal makes the best bender. Think they were called benfield year ago. Benfield use to give you a handy bender 8 or 10 page little book that was so usefull. Never like Garner or Greenlee benders. At one place that I worked mechanic would use rhe 1/2" EMT bender to bend 1/2 & 5/8" round stock to make offsets for overhead conveyor hangers. This would bend the hook out enough to mess up bends. Had to lock all the smaller bender up. Amasing some coworkers never could bend a saddle or back to back bends.
Everyone on here has great bending methods. But this has to be the most simple one yet! I’ve been bending pipe for about 6 years now, sadly never learned the theory. Thanks again!!
You should go over the proper way to install a LB condulet especially after a sharp kick. If you are pulling down from the ceiling you always want to have the opening facing down to make heavy wire pulling a lot easier. Nice vid. Thanks for staying with the same bender.
So far so good - last night I was having a tough time with a bend. Imagine looking down a floor joist towards a wall. I’m using 3/4” emt and I need to go towards the wall 12”, make a right 90, then another 90 down a wall. The distance from joist to the right side of the down bend is 10.5 inches. I could not figure out where to put the marks, let alone manage the bends. Basically it’s 2 90’s where wall to wall is 10.5”. It was so hard to manage this and thought I’d ask a pro for some advice or a demonstration.
Nicely done Stan, Since I do this so rarely, every time there is a conduit job it's a pain in the but, I'll just watch this well done series before, and, save some frustration.... Thanks for showing, Pierre
I found Stan from GOTL and Adam and the machinist RUclips guys. I just watched the conduit series and as usual, I learned something. Thank you Stan. Next time I am rich and willing to hazard Californiastan I would LOVE to do your gathering.
Excellent explanation Stan. Although it was 16 years ago, I worked a (smeltering) summer learning commercial wiring and bent a lot of conduit......but must've forgot most of the tricks because this feels like "brand new" info.
hey thanks bar z sorry forgot ur name tutorial excellent been a electrician 10 years u make pipe bending look like u riding a bike nice easy n relaxing i just learned some better things when im making my offsets thanks for ur knowledge n patience keep these videos coming. thanks panama ny. ny
I forwarded your vid to my boy, he bends tubing for elevator installing and wiring. He does beautiful work and not sure what tricks he know. alway good to learn more, thanks Stan.
Thanks for the great tutorial, maybe if I do a good job running steel conduit all over my shop I can get less hate mail from the commercial wiring guys. Just wondering how abusive of an environment does it have to be before you would need to run rigid instead of EMT?
more wet and explosive than abusive.... I run rigid anywhere within 5' of the floor if it can be hit or rubbed. Anywhere slightly corrosive I run rigid ( like salt water near the beach as well). Anywhere a bird bigger than a pigeon can land on it, rigid (the bird shit and claws do a number). Inside houses I run EMT in attics or crawl spaces where rats can chew. NMT (plastic) anywhere underground with rigid from ground to 5' where it can be hit or rubbed. Anything on roofs just use rigid cuz I got tired of replacing rotted EMT. Most of my wiring was residential, with a bit of Racetrack, oil refinery, shopping centers, and swimming pools. EMT == Essentially Mouse Tough Rigid == will rust out in 60 years when I don't have to worry about it. NMT == Not Mouse Proof
Use to have two 1.25" EMT benders. Best one had a 2 position large foot pedal. To bend a 90 you bent a 45 degree bend then reset the foot pedal. Trick for you shinny guys bending a 90 in1.25" EMT using a hand bender is to place the end od conduit against a wall so conduit does not move all around.
Stan, Thanks for your great tutorial, "Conduit Bending 101 -- It's Not Just a Pipe Dream Anymore!" Seriously, thanks for the instructive video. Have a good one! Dave
What other brands of benders make a 30 degree bend when the handle is 90 degrees with the floor/ground? Any of them? Thanks for these videos, re-watching them now that I've got a job, and it's commercial, so I'll be doing a lot of this. Excellent videos.
SUBBED!!! I have been working in the electrical trade since 2006. I have an E-1 license and take continuing education (4 HR) course every year to maintain the license. Even though I am a fairly decent pipe bender, I wish there were time to refresh our memories of pipe bending instead of the same curriculum each year. Excellent job and excellent videos, looking forward to more. ✌
Really great video with clear, concise explanations and demonstrations - many thanks. However is it a building regulation in the USA to be using metal conduit in an industrial location? Many here use cut and glue plastics. Also can you use this tool sucessfully with copper pipe?
wrong (width of slot) diameter for copper. Though my grandpa made some curved shims to go in the conduit bender (0.76" for EMT) for bending copper (0.62") For oil lines for equipment etc...
the pain offset to do is the box offset. Easier to spend the money and get the Ideal box offset benders. Pop in your conduit, clamp, pop into the box terminator. I really like the Ideal as well the handle is pretty comfortable after a day of bending. I have 3 actually 4 benders. 1/2" & 3/4 Ideal, and a 1/2 and a 3/4 at either end of the same handle from the 1940's back bend is 4.5" on the 1/2"
Well now all those markings on the sparkies benders make a little more sense to me and should cut down on the trial and error/protractor factor for me next time I am bending up some EMT. Extra 6 pack for Stan, for he is the man!
I appreciate the heads-up on different benders. 👍 I'm really trying to wrap my head around the whole math included in the pipe bending thing. Of course like I told my dad when I was in high school I would never have a job where I would need to use math in the "real world" 🙄.
, you made the different bends , never bend without looking down using the sight line with foot pressure, forget the handle positions when bending, , look at the conduit position a gardner tends to have just as many advantages and a proffesional should be able to bend with either one
Max R exactly ,we get tired of guys who can't work because they can't bend with one of the two types of benders , create kinky bends due to lack of foot pressure , and fill up the bone pile with bending mistakes because they're bending by handle position. that's the only difference between the two :handle position, if you're not using it to bend you can bend with any bender.
+mr. You misunderstood me. That's none of your business, that's between the worker and the company/client. What other's do wrong is none of anyone else's business, your not paying for it. The bone pile isn't coming out of your pocket is it, no it's not. If anything you should be glad other workers make mistakes so you get PAID to go fix it. Typical old timer trying to police a trade instead of helping it.
We were wiring in a new/ old body shop one time and a woman in charge was very adamant about NOT leave any " F....ing" sharpie marks on our pipe that's right a body shop.
+mr. Yea, tell me how many feet with more than a dozen different bends do you do DAILY and make your supports and secures within 1/4'' of their original marks. Not to mention sizing wire, loads, OCP devices that go along with running the conduit.
Great videos I specially like the one where you say that you would fired someone if they spent to much time on the PANEL like if they had COD!!! I laugh my A$$ of keep it up!
I might be a very strange person. I enjoyed this video, but I will probably never know where to buy an Ideal Bender, nor ever need one. Still I'm learning :-)
Thanks Stan! I'm on a job right now a bit over my bending skill level, but with this and your last video I'm impressing them with the fast learning. Your a better teacher than the guys on the job. It's a High school emergency generator retrofit, so it's offset city in the overheads. Much appreciated.
You're a fine teacher and a great electrician.
I’m a person that has trouble understanding stuff sometimes and you my guys literary spoon feed people I love your videos
I've got the manual for my Klein bender, which I believe is a 30 degree unit like your Ideal, and your discussion here is helping the manual make more sense. I appreciate you doing these videos, they would have helped in my previous garage wiring but these came out after I did it, lol!
De lo mejor k he visto en utube...simple y bien explicado ...tengo 25 años de experiencia y por los últimos 4 empecé con EMT Pipe....siempre me mantuve alejado temeroso de usar EMT....pero el trabajo es empezar y echarle ganas....además.....sin saber doblar pipa se limita muchísimo las posibilidades de k te contraten ...ánimo...poco a poco le vas agarrando chiste y se va haciendo más fácil....
Thanks Stan I never knew there was such a difference in benders.
I'm new to the trade and I have plenty of "Old Timers" trying to show me the correct way to bend but they have a harder time explaining it.Im new and your videos are definitely easier to follow than the peopletryi g to teach me. Thanks a million for the informative lesson hope you put out more videos for us "young pups" coming up in the trade.
I would definitely buy if you made a simple video series and sold it :P. If you recorded a bunch of conduit bends in the field with how and why you made the bends, it would get an insane amount of views. Great stuff!
These tutorials make me want to go get a bender, even though I don't have a use for one at the moment. Thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to teach us a thing or two in conduit bending.
Very good to see the bender at work thank you Stan.
For those that want to know why..... If you were wondering why you can't go over 360 degrees. Think of it like if the 360 degrees is a circle. If you try to pull wire around a circle it tightened up like if it was wound around a pipe. The more you go over 360 degrees, the tighter it gets. Like Stan said, every little bend adds up. Stan, next time show how to make a box bend. I made so many on a job once, I bought a box bender. Was fast, just stick the end in and push the lever down....instant box termination offset!
As a man fresh out of a electrician trade school, i would love to be under a teacher like this gentleman.... i can tell he has a lot to teach!
That was great Stan. I’m not a pro electrician, though I’ve done a fair amount for my own company until we sold it in 2004, and I decided to retire. Don’t use it that much these days other than for my basement and garage shops. It can be very confusing to people. I have the 1/2” and 3/4” Ideal models, but older, so the handles have no info on them. I’ve never even heard of the Gardner.
You are so right that Ideal makes the best bender. Think they were called benfield year ago. Benfield use to give you a handy bender 8 or 10 page little book that was so usefull. Never like Garner or Greenlee benders. At one place that I worked mechanic would use rhe 1/2" EMT bender to bend 1/2 & 5/8" round stock to make offsets for overhead conveyor hangers. This would bend the hook out enough to mess up bends. Had to lock all the smaller bender up. Amasing some coworkers never could bend a saddle or back to back bends.
Awesome sessions Stan. I'd love to see how you'd do box offsets without a kicker bender.
In New Zealand Australia etc, Metal conduit went out like 70 or more years ago. If you have to use conduit use PVC, cut and glue.
Everyone on here has great bending methods. But this has to be the most simple one yet! I’ve been bending pipe for about 6 years now, sadly never learned the theory. Thanks again!!
Thank you. You teach very well. Very calm. Very smooth.
You should go over the proper way to install a LB condulet especially after a sharp kick. If you are pulling down from the ceiling you always want to have the opening facing down to make heavy wire pulling a lot easier. Nice vid. Thanks for staying with the same bender.
So far so good - last night I was having a tough time with a bend. Imagine looking down a floor joist towards a wall. I’m using 3/4” emt and I need to go towards the wall 12”, make a right 90, then another 90 down a wall. The distance from joist to the right side of the down bend is 10.5 inches. I could not figure out where to put the marks, let alone manage the bends.
Basically it’s 2 90’s where wall to wall is 10.5”. It was so hard to manage this and thought I’d ask a pro for some advice or a demonstration.
I appreciate you taking your time in making these videos. Please make a video with concentric 90 degree bends, if you haven't done so already
Nicely done Stan, Since I do this so rarely, every time there is a conduit job it's a pain in the but, I'll just watch this well done series before, and, save some frustration....
Thanks for showing, Pierre
Mr.,
Best... illustration out there explaining and showing how to bend EMT pipes thank you excellent video
appreciate the channel, I'm an apprentice installer in Indiana 4 months in
A good conduit bender, can adapt to any hand bender
I found Stan from GOTL and Adam and the machinist RUclips guys. I just watched the conduit series and as usual, I learned something. Thank you Stan. Next time I am rich and willing to hazard Californiastan I would LOVE to do your gathering.
Would be happy to have you swing by, stay tuned for dates and times!
Excellent explanation Stan. Although it was 16 years ago, I worked a (smeltering) summer learning commercial wiring and bent a lot of conduit......but must've forgot most of the tricks because this feels like "brand new" info.
How many sticks did you scrap the first month?
RobiSydney - As I said, it's been a while.....but several. Stan makes it look easy, but it definitely requires practice.
hey thanks bar z sorry forgot ur name tutorial excellent been a electrician 10 years u make pipe bending look like u riding a bike nice easy n relaxing i just learned some better things when im making my offsets thanks for ur knowledge n patience keep these videos coming. thanks panama ny. ny
Very interesting tutorial video having been 44 years in the trade myself , there have been times I wish I had one of those style of benders to hand !
Great videos, I'm starting commercial work next week. Ur video's have helped me tremendously! Thanks
I forwarded your vid to my boy, he bends tubing for elevator installing and wiring. He does beautiful work and not sure what tricks he know. alway good to learn more, thanks Stan.
Thanks for the great tutorial, maybe if I do a good job running steel conduit all over my shop I can get less hate mail from the commercial wiring guys. Just wondering how abusive of an environment does it have to be before you would need to run rigid instead of EMT?
more wet and explosive than abusive.... I run rigid anywhere within 5' of the floor if it can be hit or rubbed. Anywhere slightly corrosive I run rigid ( like salt water near the beach as well). Anywhere a bird bigger than a pigeon can land on it, rigid (the bird shit and claws do a number). Inside houses I run EMT in attics or crawl spaces where rats can chew. NMT (plastic) anywhere underground with rigid from ground to 5' where it can be hit or rubbed. Anything on roofs just use rigid cuz I got tired of replacing rotted EMT.
Most of my wiring was residential, with a bit of Racetrack, oil refinery, shopping centers, and swimming pools.
EMT == Essentially Mouse Tough
Rigid == will rust out in 60 years when I don't have to worry about it.
NMT == Not Mouse Proof
The code states "when subject to physical damage" so it falls into the interpretation of the NEC, when in doubt, build it stout.
NEC says anything outdoors must be rigid....although I see plenty of EMT that's actually exposed to the weather/rain....
+Doug. Thumbs up.
+shadon. Two thumbs up.
Use to have two 1.25" EMT benders. Best one had a 2 position large foot pedal. To bend a 90 you bent a 45 degree bend then reset the foot pedal. Trick for you shinny guys bending a 90 in1.25" EMT using a hand bender is to place the end od conduit against a wall so conduit does not move all around.
Yes I agree. Love the way you teach. I could definitely see myself working a job with you :)
Stan, found you from Abom. Really enjoy learning this stuff. This has practical use even for the DIY type guys. Keep em coming.
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Excellent how-to tutorial!
I still have trouble with shrinkage when I come out of the pool however.
Stan,
Thanks for your great tutorial, "Conduit Bending 101 -- It's Not Just a Pipe Dream Anymore!" Seriously, thanks for the instructive video.
Have a good one!
Dave
Terrific tutorials! Manny thanks 🙏
One too many knockouts in that control panel...just kidding. Was looking for a video to freshen up. This brought it all back thanks..very nice work
Great info Stan!
What other brands of benders make a 30 degree bend when the handle is 90 degrees with the floor/ground? Any of them?
Thanks for these videos, re-watching them now that I've got a job, and it's commercial, so I'll be doing a lot of this. Excellent videos.
I like that trick you did without using the tape. Will that work for rmc too?
I wish I could work with you for a couple of months . Thanks
SUBBED!!!
I have been working in the electrical trade since 2006.
I have an E-1 license and take continuing education (4 HR) course every year to maintain the license.
Even though I am a fairly decent pipe bender, I wish there were time to refresh our memories of pipe bending instead of the same curriculum each year.
Excellent job and excellent videos, looking forward to more.
✌
Hello, just wondering how are you in your journey?
Really great video with clear, concise explanations and demonstrations - many thanks.
However is it a building regulation in the USA to be using metal conduit in an industrial location? Many here use cut and glue plastics.
Also can you use this tool sucessfully with copper pipe?
wrong (width of slot) diameter for copper. Though my grandpa made some curved shims to go in the conduit bender (0.76" for EMT) for bending copper (0.62") For oil lines for equipment etc...
They way you explaining is very helpful thank you.
Thank you for making time to make these videos ., I really appreciate
Bar Z you should teach us some more advanced bends. You're doing pretty good.
This guys the best conduit teacher
Thanks for this series. I’m in need of some education on bending for my job 🤙
Nice job, I like the way you teach. :-)
the pain offset to do is the box offset. Easier to spend the money and get the Ideal box offset benders. Pop in your conduit, clamp, pop into the box terminator. I really like the Ideal as well the handle is pretty comfortable after a day of bending. I have 3 actually 4 benders. 1/2" & 3/4 Ideal, and a 1/2 and a 3/4 at either end of the same handle from the 1940's back bend is 4.5" on the 1/2"
Nice video! Like the way you teach how to bend, learnd a lot. Greetings from Chile.
Great way you teach.
Just checked my pipe bender, it is an Ideal. It is nice to finely know how to use it properly.
Well now all those markings on the sparkies benders make a little more sense to me and should cut down on the trial and error/protractor factor for me next time I am bending up some EMT. Extra 6 pack for Stan, for he is the man!
Great video Stan I will definitely be using this at work. More electrical trade videos man. Keep em comin
Hey Stan, I learned a lot. Thanks!
Any chance you'll show them very expensive Power Benders?
I really like your videos, do you have one were you actually do a 4 point and 3 point saddle bend?
One thing you also have to consider in this operation is conduit shrinkage.
I appreciate the heads-up on different benders. 👍 I'm really trying to wrap my head around the whole math included in the pipe bending thing. Of course like I told my dad when I was in high school I would never have a job where I would need to use math in the "real world" 🙄.
Thank you for sharing. Is this part of your test for new hires?
Very good, is there a manual that you recommend me ...?
This is gold brother. Thanks for the education.
You do a great job. thx. can't find more than the 3 or 4 videos that you posted about conduit bending. Can you (or anyone) post more links.
What about the shrinkage on the offsets?
Thanks Stan. Keep them coming
Better than perfect, absolutely perfect.
great vid stan very informative and well presented
That's way to bend correct.
Thanks again Stan from the lesson.
Thanks for the awesome videos keep up the good work!
How to know which degree to use, when bending?
Wilder Ramirez , you as the electrician determine which angle to take. The 30 degree is easiest way to explain to helpers and trainees
love your work man
if you hold them together at the bottom it shows the angle
Thank you for these!
You’ve helped me so much, man!
Thanks a ton!! 👍🏻👍🏻
I bet this guy can do a great john Goodman impression
Awesome, thanks, and thanks for no annoying music, 🤠👍
thank you stan very helpful, sure wish i had this info 20 years ago when i built my shop .good job 1 -6 pack for you
the back bend.. I've been an electrician for 7 years and I'm dying right now. no one knows that fucking bend!!!
great lesson, i really appreciate it.
, you made the different bends , never bend without looking down using the sight line with foot pressure, forget the handle positions when bending, , look at the conduit position a gardner tends to have just as many advantages and a proffesional should be able to bend with either one
+mr. a "professional" should be able to let other's work and techniques speak for themselves and not the other way around.
Max R exactly ,we get tired of guys who can't work because they can't bend with one of the two types of benders , create kinky bends due to lack of foot pressure , and fill up the bone pile with bending mistakes because they're bending by handle position. that's the only difference between the two :handle position, if you're not using it to bend you can bend with any bender.
+mr. You misunderstood me. That's none of your business, that's between the worker and the company/client. What other's do wrong is none of anyone else's business, your not paying for it. The bone pile isn't coming out of your pocket is it, no it's not. If anything you should be glad other workers make mistakes so you get PAID to go fix it. Typical old timer trying to police a trade instead of helping it.
Thank you for another great video.
More bending! Thanks Stan.
We were wiring in a new/ old body shop one time and a woman in charge was very adamant about NOT leave any " F....ing" sharpie marks on our pipe that's right a body shop.
Wipe them off with Acetone
blueticecho I can " wing it" which means no tape measure or marks and be within 1/4:" but I mark with a pencil when needed
+mr. Yea, tell me how many feet with more than a dozen different bends do you do DAILY and make your supports and secures within 1/4'' of their original marks. Not to mention sizing wire, loads, OCP devices that go along with running the conduit.
You can also wipe them off using rubbing alcohol. Rubbing alcohol will remove the sharpie without tearing off any other plastic or coating.
Did you also have to remove any stickers?
conduit bender can used in galvanized steel
Stan could have bent 1" rigid by hand up on the table. Trust me he has an S on his chest for a reason.
Cheers,
Tom
Very good, Stan. Thanks!
Thank you for your videos I'm an apprentice learning.
Great tutorial keep it coming!!!
Great videos I specially like the one where you say that you would fired someone if they spent to much time on the PANEL like if they had COD!!! I laugh my A$$ of keep it up!
I SALUTE YOU FROM FORT MCMURRAY ALBERTA CANADA 🇨🇦
Badass explanation sir
How about a klein?
no offset into the JB?
I wasnt demonstrating offsets.
He reminds me of Admiral Painter from the movie - "Hunt for Red October"
Do you know how to bend conduit?
I might be a very strange person. I enjoyed this video, but I will probably never know where to buy an Ideal Bender, nor ever need one. Still I'm learning :-)