Ich kenne diese "Zschokke"-Anlage schon seit 1976 als ich damals selber ins Militär einrücken musste. - Macht Spass darauf zu schiessen. Und man lernt sehr schnell mit dem STGW-57 mehrere Ziele nacheinander schnell und wirksam zu bekämpfen.
They're still in use today. Don't know for the whole army, but we only use them in the one setting where the target disappears for a couple seconds after a hit. In basic training in 2002 we used them with the remote control if I remember correctly, but that was about the only time. The system with the ancient radios wasn't all that reliable I think. But being a recruit back then I wouldn't know much on that matter.
Solche Uebungen habe jede Woche 1x machen müssen. Normalerweise haben wir als Artilleristen diese Inf-Uebungstage gar nicht gerne gemacht. Pro Woche haben wir 4 Schiesstage (3 Art und 1 Inf) im WK gemacht.
@@DaletheStgwDude Saab simulation target system(Saab mål in Swedish). I did My service 86-87 . We only used this twice ,Night shooting with 120 mm illumination mortar rounds and shooting with gasmask on. Smoke everwere. Later system called canaxa i think?
@@Big1_ he was looking down because it was putting his helmet between his ears and the constant explosions of that machine gun. I'm sure it made a pretty large difference
@@DaletheStgwDude I found a picture of the M1918 head liner and it appears the head liner does not go all the way around. I find that strange. I am also wondering how will this helmet would shed rain water. If your ever looking for a filler video I think this would be a good one. Thanks for the reply.
i almost forgot about these 69ers. it‘is remarkable and a shame at the same time that the swiss armed forces still uses such old equipment. i finished service in 2012 and could test potential „new“ gear and equipment during my service.
If you're in the US or Canada, eBay can be good for helmets. If, like me, you're in the UK, eBay and sites like green-store, Armeeverkauf Liebold and swissmilitaria.ch all have them. If you're in the rest of Europe, you're spoilt for choice! And if you're in South America, Africa or Asia, eBay is the best I can recommend, just got to hope people will ship them to you!
Imagine them surplusing that. The whole action shooting community would scream in joy. With today's electronics these should be pretty cheap to make by anyone with an engineering background. The only question I have is the mechanism of hit detection.
@@MBkufel they're quite reliable. We frequently have problems with the batteries, because they're old, when it's really cold they lose power fast. Hits are indicated quite reliable except if the targets are really worn out. The army does it's best to keep maintaining them.
We were like dummy puppet with that camouflaged outfit when running and rolling on field. What a s''' 't it was Gamelle, IS pouch with scrapped shoeshine tubes..
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The best thing is that the remote shown here are still in use (at least they were when i left the army 4 years ago).
Ich kenne diese "Zschokke"-Anlage schon seit 1976 als ich damals selber ins Militär einrücken musste. - Macht Spass darauf zu schiessen. Und man lernt sehr schnell mit dem STGW-57 mehrere Ziele nacheinander schnell und wirksam zu bekämpfen.
They're still in use today. Don't know for the whole army, but we only use them in the one setting where the target disappears for a couple seconds after a hit. In basic training in 2002 we used them with the remote control if I remember correctly, but that was about the only time. The system with the ancient radios wasn't all that reliable I think. But being a recruit back then I wouldn't know much on that matter.
All this analogue technology makes me want to take out my vinyl and listen to some Miles Davis on my Hi Fi.
Thanks for sharing. Interesting to see 1969 technology for this.
It was very cool as shoot director to manipulate all those buttons and lure shooters.
0:44 I just love that sound.
Solche Uebungen habe jede Woche 1x machen müssen. Normalerweise haben wir als Artilleristen diese Inf-Uebungstage gar nicht gerne gemacht. Pro Woche haben wir 4 Schiesstage (3 Art und 1 Inf) im WK gemacht.
these videos are always interesting, thanks for posting
In Sweden, Saab made something like this. Electronics and compressed air driven.
@@DaletheStgwDude Saab simulation target system(Saab mål in Swedish). I did My service 86-87 . We only used this twice ,Night shooting with 120 mm illumination mortar rounds and shooting with gasmask on. Smoke everwere. Later system called canaxa i think?
Nice!
that mg gunner kept staring at the ground lol i think he wanted to keep some of his hearing lol
hahahah imagine this guy in your squad, shooting and taking cover, lol I think is not gonna hit a shit.
@@Big1_ he was looking down because it was putting his helmet between his ears and the constant explosions of that machine gun. I'm sure it made a pretty large difference
The 2 mg gunners dit it the jung guy and the later bearded one to. Poor guys ears.
Dale, question what is the model nam for the helmets used in this video ?
@@DaletheStgwDude I found a picture of the M1918 head liner and it appears the head liner does not go all the way around. I find that strange. I am also wondering how will this helmet would shed rain water. If your ever looking for a filler video I think this would be a good one. Thanks for the reply.
If you like these things you should see the ETRs in Wales.
i almost forgot about these 69ers. it‘is remarkable and a shame at the same time that the swiss armed forces still uses such old equipment. i finished service in 2012 and could test potential „new“ gear and equipment during my service.
@@DaletheStgwDude jup, never change a running system.
Nice.
I'm sure no one ever accidentally shot the very fragile mirror that is 10 cm away from the actual target during a night exercice...
Well that's why it's a fragile mirror. Doesn't cost to much to change.
12:32 12:56 LMAO that gunner is not gonna hit a shit, WTF is doing looking down for head cover?
12:42 R.I.P
@@DaletheStgwDude True LOL
It's not head cover but ear cover. No ear protection so after a while you're deaf.
12:45 😬
Very interesting. Thank you! Is there a source for surplus Swiss helmets? (You're right: the 1950's horror organ music is beyond weird.)
If you're in the US or Canada, eBay can be good for helmets. If, like me, you're in the UK, eBay and sites like green-store, Armeeverkauf Liebold and swissmilitaria.ch all have them. If you're in the rest of Europe, you're spoilt for choice!
And if you're in South America, Africa or Asia, eBay is the best I can recommend, just got to hope people will ship them to you!
Imagine them surplusing that. The whole action shooting community would scream in joy.
With today's electronics these should be pretty cheap to make by anyone with an engineering background. The only question I have is the mechanism of hit detection.
@@DaletheStgwDude I am curious if they get false positives in strong rain and stuff.
If only the mechanism could be reverse engineered...
@@MBkufel they're quite reliable. We frequently have problems with the batteries, because they're old, when it's really cold they lose power fast.
Hits are indicated quite reliable except if the targets are really worn out. The army does it's best to keep maintaining them.
We were like dummy puppet with that camouflaged outfit when running and rolling on field.
What a s''' 't it was
Gamelle, IS pouch with scrapped shoeshine tubes..
« Toutes ces manipulations sont extrêmement simples » > zoom sur 20 commutateurs. Ah c’est pas l’ergonomie de 2021 😜
Pauvres grenouilles 😂