Really, a Super AND Turbocharged Plugin Hybrid? 2018 Volvo XC60 T8 Review
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2017
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) What's the only car in the world that is both Supercharged Turbocharged and electrified? It's the new 2018 Volvo XC60 T8.
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fantastic car. All the benefits of an AMG but quieter, a LOT less polluting, and more efficient. Such a beautiful design too. Can't wait to see the XC40 plug in!
That's the one I'm waiting for. I like that it looks like a dune buggie.
Bruce Solomon I really want to see the Polestar performance electrics. I think those will be amazing
azera55555 they just realised a t5 plug in hybrid xc40
You guys (Roman, Nathan, Andre and Tommy) do the best car reviews.
Inscription model* not inspiration
Adam C I caught Roman’s goof too.
Did Roman just call this trim level, the "Inspiration" at the 02:10 videomark? Oh Roman, if only Nathan or Andre were there to slap you upside your head.....lol. It's the "Inscription" trim level!
Looks like you're at the Resort at the Mountain, near Mt. Hood, Oregon! Great review.
Roman Mica....Always on TOP! You r a Star
This is a beautiful car. Fast & efficient as well as well as being luxurious. My only real question is long term reliability but otherwise it is already a winner in my books.
Roman and Nathan are the best of this channel
That is gorgeous in white.
How did you derive the 56 MPG? Did include the price of electricity needed to recharge the 10.4 KWh battery?
Thanks
The RUclips commentors who bash the long term maintenance expenses, are seemingly unfamiliar with an extended repair warranty. Believe it or not, you can actually negotiate the warranty costs and coverage options separate from the vehicle MSRP or combine the price into your monthly payment. Most dealerships will sell an extended warranty at 0% interest or at a reduced price as an incentive for the buyer. If you decide to sell or trade the vehicle before the extended warranty expires, you can receive a prorated refund based on the years and mileage accrued during your ownership. Now I guess I'll just go on reading the comments section where people whine about selling expendable body parts or taking out a second mortgage to pay for the cost of a replacement transmission or an equally expensive turbo intake system.
J High why would I waste my money on an extended warranty with Volvo when I can probably get a Lexus for about the same price and not have to get an extended warranty because it's already more reliable. The Lexus will also have a better resale value so when I sell it after 20 years., it will actually be worth something in the market.
Brian Lawrance
You have to drive a car for 20 years or until the wheels fall off? I seldom keep a car more than 3 or 4 years so an extended warranty is a good investment for me. I suppose your Lexus will never need repairs or replacement parts during your 20 years of ownership? Good luck in 2037 with your 20 year old Lexus. Let me guess, you still listen to music on cassette tapes too?
J High yeah how did you know I still use cassettes? My 20 year old ES300 has a beautiful premium audio system with tape deck and a dealer installed 6-disc CD changer. And they work!!!!
Brian Lawrance
You poor man.
hahaha funny reply
My niece bought the XC90 Inscription (hybrid) a few weeks ago. She loves it and bought it for $8,200 off MSRP (not sure why the big drop from MSRP). Throw in state & federal tax credits and a couple other financial goodies and the car/price was too good to pass on. Seems this car is the sleeper in the luxury crossover market.
Is it a nice car.....yes. Would I want to own it anytime out of warranty, no.
@4:13, you state that all Volvos will soon have only EV or plug-in-hybrids. I’ve heard that also mild hybrids will be part of their line up.
The Excellence trim of this vehicle is like $100,000. Doug demuro did a great video on it and it is just ridiculous.
Hey TFL, I looked at all your videos, have you guys ever done a comparison between the dodge charger sxt awd vs the Ford fusion sport awd? I'm trying to find the best american awd midsize or full-size sedan. I love American cars, I live in upstate NY and want awd and have a wife and a son and my wife wants nothing but a sedan. Help?! I'm looking for performance and track usability, right now I do autocross with a 2016 Ford fusion eco boost awd.
I ordered the xc90 t8
Hey Roman, do you guys have an episode on the best front wheel drive cars in the snow? If you don't could you do a test in the future, im very curious to see the outcome would be.
+Malique Chante' great idea and will do
Malique Chante' lol just get a 4x4 or all wheel drive car lmao fwd car for the snow lmao
Now just add the KERS under the hood Volvo is also trying to cram in and you end up with the sides becoming the main plate.
15 years down the line... a poor guy like me (with Volvo dream/lust) will buy a 'used' one of these with 140,000 miles on the clock...it will go wrong ... and instead of a 'meagre' cam-belt change... I'll have to replace a Turbo ..AND a Supercharger !! ...Bring back simplicity!
Come on Dude? GLC43 and SQ5 are sports models, so where's the XC60 T8 R-Design to make this a bit more fair. It would actually take a Polestar version to be truly fair. Folks, test drive an R-Design version with airbag suspension (T6 or T8); you'll prefer it to the rock hard AMG set-up. The R-Design also has the best seats of the lot (yes, better, more comfortable than these luxury Inscription seats). The XC60 also has more rear leg room than ALL of the competitors.
Hey Roman do you know what's going on with Subaru oil burning issues? By the way good luck with that.
+Wallrus Moose no Subaru does not loan us cars
Roman you feeling okay? Your voice sounds different?
I was thinking the same thing.... maybe he has a cold
True.. Hopefully he feels better
i have a question, what reason does Ford have to make so many ads of their cars against Honda's? They have done every model that Honda has (except for Ridgeline and Odyssey.)
Edit: oops wrong video.
The complexity of the powertrain scares buyers away
The sales figures seem to disprove your point.
Can it tow a 750Kg caravan/
The answer is every T8 Volvo....S90, V90, XC90...and now the XC60
And xc90 excellence
the answer to your first question is Volvo xc90 "Excellence"
Very expensive to repair,but with Kobe Steel admitting they used false data to pass inspections on products they sold to automotive firms,I'm glad I'm not looking for a new car.Toyota said they used Kobe Steel in doors,hood and crumple zones in cars.I want to know which firms didn't use Kobe Steel.
The trans is not awd, the engine only powers the front wheels. The rear wheels are powered by an electric motor which is powered by the starter/generator during driving for AWD, or you get RWD when youre in electric mode
WHEN THE HYBRID BATTERY IS OFF DURING DRIVING DOES THE PETROL ENGINE CHARGE IT OR IT HAS TO BE PLUGGED IN???
Panagiotis Kritikos it has regenerative braking which means that when you hit the brakes it charges the battery
Inspiration or inscription
Not the only car. You forgot the XC90.
This is actually the fourth car with the T8 power train. XC90, S90 and V90.
Yeah it’s safe, but 700 miles on the odometer, and hello check engine light
SilentHill401 700 miles is easy fix....still under warranty, just take it back
Where is the review TFL ? You tested but you don't say much about the car.So where is the test-review ?
I mean if you really have the money to buy it without a blink you wouldn't care about how expensive it's gonna cost for repair, and you won't even be driving it after two or three years.
Good luck repairing that one!
with the gas-engine yes, but electric motors dont hav a lot of parts to go wrong. electric motors are build simpler and with far less parts than a combustion engine ;)
won't we get any new episodes of the chemistry of cars ? I miss charlotte :(
+Asif Mahmud Charlotte found a job as a chemistry so she’s not with us anymore.
:( :(
Fast lane Car: Why you don't pay as well as a job in the chemistry sector? How about the nerdy dude is he still around? Forget his name now...
Kaityn Kuang thats his son lol
vincent p: Oops, sorry about that LOL ! Anyway Charlotte was way out of his league anyway.
when it breaks, you sell your body parts to fix it.😅
Faithful Servant that's why we got 2 kidneys, LOL
Faithful Servant: Truer words have never been said. Who would actually buy something this horrible? It is literally a ticking time bomb waiting to empty your wallet. If you have that kind of money go buy yourself a Lexus LX470 and KNOW that it will go 20 yrs with minimal issues.
Likely, most people in this price bracket lease. So having things break, as the miles pile up, doesn't really enter their minds in the "purchase" decision.
Yes this is a car you would only want to lease
Faithful Servant
Apparently the words "extended repair warranty" have no meaning to you.
Good luck on maintenance.
with the gas-engine yes, but electric motors dont hav a lot of parts to go wrong. electric motors are build simpler and with far less parts than a combustion engine ;)
supercharged + turbocharged = more to go wrong and a more stressed engine. Get rid of one (or both) of them and increase the capacity FFS. The whole single engine capacity and layout for all vehicles route volvo have gone down recently is simply to cut costs, not because it makes mechanical (or even enviromental) sense. Oh, and it'll only produce 400hp while there's charge in the battery, otherwise it'll be down to whatever the ICE can produce minus the power required to recharge the battery.
Right. If you take an engine that wasn't designed to be supercharged, the statement would be true. This sort of sentiment is a knee-jerk reaction. If Volvo engineers intended the engine to be both turbo- and supercharged, they most certainly engineered the engine to withstand the higher pressures and heat. Such sentiment also demonstrate lack of understanding towards either form of supercharging. Likely, the turbo is meant to boost top end power, while the supercharger is meant to boost power from low to mid rpm... thus mitigating turbo lag. If the engine was spec'ed to be supercharged, there is no reason why it can't be mated to both a turbo and a supercharger.
There's plenty of overlap. The supercharger doesn't switch off when the turbo kicks in.
Ha, you have more faith in car companies that most people! All components of a car are designed down to a price and the engine will be no exception. Sure, for the initial owner it probably won't be an issue, but 10 years down the line I can guarantee a higher than normal percentage of these engines will have blown. VW had a 1.4 that was turbo and supercharged and they had lots of problems. As for turbos only boosting top end power - that hasn't been the case for 20 years. Check out some of BMWs turbos that kick in not much above 1000rpm. Also volvo has developed electric driven and stored air pressure driven turbos that can both kick in from idle though I don't know if this car has either. I suspect not.
Also there's another point which matters to some people - it sounds rubbish.
Volvo designed one engine to offer standard turbo assist, supercharge and hybrid add-ons and all their cars will be fitted with these until they all are just offered with plug-in as standard. So if you are betting the house on one engine (with diesel as an afterthought) you can bet they tested this to the extreme (lots of extreme weather in Scandanavia). Volvo wanted one engine design and in V4 able to move a heavy SUV (even if designed to cut weight wherever possible). Ford bet on the Ecoboost tech and they still have to offer bigger engines to move their heavier trucks with no option to offer supercharging or hybrid assist. Turbo assist has been around for decades (standard in every semi, bus and diesel engine). Supercharging is a simple tech (VW offered it on small Golf engines). If all "tech" failed over time most used cars would be without fuel injection, turbos in diesels and we'd all be driving while coughing up our lungs in traffic fumes.
So you don't think turbos fail. Whatever you say. Not sure where you got the idea that turbos improve emissions, they simply provide more air to burn more fuel in a given time period so increasing power.
Definitely not a car you want to know outside warranty.
volvo is known for building safe but extremely unreliable cars
The data do not support this blind assertion.
Why plug in?
T Ritchie For better fuel economy figures
Plugin so that if you live in CA or NYC you can use the HOV lanes. Other than that if you spend this kind of money do you give a hoot about fuel economy? Or you are one of those hypocrites who drive around in a 100k car and tout how you are a tree hugger.
rockn roll: Yes you are right. Doesn't make sense to burn fossil fuel to create the electrical to charge the battery to move the car. Might as well just burn the fossil fuel to move the car directly.
I don't see why you can't be a tree hugger and still drive a hundred thousand dollar car, particularly if its fuel efficient. There are models without wood accents, and some that use reclaimed wood. Moreover the wood used to make cars, musical instruments and furniture must be from companies that raise the trees on farms and practice constant reforestation. Nobody protests the trees being used. People protest when forests are cleared and never replaced.
So does plug in really get better mpg than regular hybrid? I thought that when running the car in gas mode that it recharged the battery.
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Roman: Sit in the back and show us the packaging!! Thanks.
its as if car companies know what lies in the future...electric cars, and the stuff they build now is going to be obsolete in a few years, just like the CRT or the single core processor back in 2005...i will not be buying any new cars until the technology transfer is complete...in twenty years there may be very few dinosaur powered cars left driving or driving themselves...pretty sure my toyotas will last till then since my truck only has 300,000 miles and i expect to double that
"Technology transfer is complete?" How do you figure that's going to happen? Do you think technological advancement is SLOWING down or will actually stop at some point? Good luck with that.
lol lolo pass... learned how to drive on that road.
No thanks!
1Drummer noone asked!
More parts to get damaged and broken. I pass.
Jose, you should just ride a bike then, if that's your logic.
volvo is a piece of $
Volvo is a Chinese owned company - nope.
Jaguar are Indian owned !! so what ? The iPhone is made in China , VW and Audi are made in China !! under the right management any company can maintain its quality credentials regardless of where it is made !! its all down to standards set at the top, not the labourer screwing on door handles !! Volvo cars made in China will have Swedish management ensuring the quality of the cars produced are of the same standard as produced in Sweden and Belgium .
Mercedes Benz has their E-class and C-class models assembled in china but they are german managed, so your point makes sense.
Is it vehicle for gay?
ivan mamedov maybe. I see the name Ivan written all over it
Test your theory by getting a bear to blow you in the back seat.
ivan mamedov ask sofyan from 2theredline
Lol... it will turn you gay, but some people don't mind that
No Ivan. We gays only buy Audi’s and BMW’s but since you want a Volvo we will have to ask for your gay card back. 😂😂😂